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    RUS 493
    "African-American Literary Ties to
    Russian Intellectual Thought"
    URL: <syllabus.htm>
    "Blacks in Russia: A Historical Perspective"
    The most convenient starting point for a study of blacks in Russian history and thought is the beginning its Imperial Age, usually dated from the reign of Peter I, or Peter the Great <http://www.guide.spb.ru/culture-n-history/history/peteri/index.html> (1682-1725). Peter modernized Russia, opening his country through contact with the West, and built the capital city, St. Petersburg, "the Window to the West. <http://www.cityvision2000.com/history/virtual-short.htm>" Peter was the first Russian to comprehend the advantage of African contact for Russia’s interests. There were no original black inhabitants of Russian lands. It was mainly through this expansion of contact with the outside world that blacks came to be involved with the Russian experience.
    Russia arrived late to sea travel, and although it acquired a large North American holding, it did not achieve a large maritime empire nor participate in the African slave trade the way other European powers did. At the same time, Russia did evolve into a gigantic landed empire which included numerous non-Slavic peoples, including several small populations of African descent. As Russia emerged as a recognized world power, it took interest in world affairs, including the slavery issue and European imperialism in Africa. Peter the Great imitated many Western customs, among them the importation of black servants for his court, a trend followed by some of the Russian nobility as well.
    As Russia grew as a trading power, the black population grew as black seamen regularly visited and some stayed. Russian perception of blacks was gradually shaped by the combination of the limited presence of blacks in Russia and by Russia’s growing exposure to developments and ideas from abroad. This continued even after the 1917 revolution brought the Imperial Age to an end in Russia.
    The Black Sea Region
    The earliest presence of black peoples in Russia was along the western slope of the Caucasus mountains near the Black Sea <georgia.htm>, in the small state of Abkhazia and in parts of the former Soviet Republic of Georgia. When one considers the rugged terrain of the area, it is not surprising that these settlements remained isolated for centuries, largely unknown to the Russian public until the early 20th century. In the early years of the 20th c. several articles appeared detailing the populations of these settlements in Batumi, in southwest Georgia, in Sukhumi, in Northwest Georgia and other areas of the Caucasus. In these, the black peoples were called by a variety of terms: Arabs, Lazs, or Adzhars by the people around Batumi, which referred to other groups of indigenous peoples as well, who had intermarried with the black populations. Most of the people in these black settlements were Moslems and spoke only the Abkhazian language.
    The most prevalent explanation of how these Africans came to the Black Sea region is that they were brought as slaves for Turkish and Abkhazian rulers between the 16th and 19th centuries. When the Turks withdrew they took their slaves with them, and those that remained gained their freedom in the 19th century. Another theory, however, places blacks in this region centuries earlier, perhaps in Antiquity, perhaps as descendants of the legendary army of the Egyptian Emperor Sesotris , who supposedly conquered parts of Asia before the second millennium. Classical writings dating from the eight century BC refer to Colchis, the Colchians being described as black-skinned. More recent writings also refute the likelihood of importing Africans as slaves, since the area itself was already well-noted for exportation of its own slaves, suggesting an earlier population of blacks. Regardless, the slave colonies that existed in this area were cut off by the capture of the Byzantine empire by the Ottomans <http://www.turkey.org/reference/in_ottom.htm> in the 15th c., leading to the European shift to black Africa for slaves. (Bear in mind that the area of Abkhazia to this day boasts more than a hundred languages for a population of half a million. Those peoples who into the twentieth century could still be identified as black probably descended from Africans brought into the region. Their presence in the region represents an interesting and little known tie between Russia and Africa.)
    Black Servants in Imperial Russia
    These native populations of blacks remained largely in the Caucasus regions of Russia during the Imperial Age. The remainder of the black population was largely servants, in some cases originally purchased as slaves. Russians called them interchangeably arapy, efiopy, or negry (blackamoors, Ethiopians, or Negros). There was, however, no significant black slave trade in Russia, as will be discussed later.
    Again we return to Peter the Great, who was personally responsible for bringing many blacks to serve in his court consistent with European fashion. Many of the nobles followed Peter's example through the 18th and 19th centuries. Most servants were acquired as slaves and upon arrival in Russia, were granted their personal freedom in exchange for a lifetime service obligation. The Tsar employed roughly 20 black servants in his court by the 19th century, and these came not only from Africa but from America as well. For example, Andrew ****son White (1832-1918), the American minister to Russia in 1894, discovered one servant originally from Tennessee. John Quincy Adams <http://www.grolier.com/presidents/ea/bios/06padam.html> (1767-1848), minister to Russia in 1809, placed two black American servants in the Tsar's court -- Nelson, a black man who had accompanied Adams to Russia, and Alexander Gabriel, a black ship’s cook who had deserted an American ship. Another connection between American blacks and the Russian court can be traced to Nero Prince <http://www.simplygreek.com/articles/102598a.html>, who served as Grand Master of the Boston African Grand Lodge in 1808. Prince sailed to Russia in 1810 to serve as a butler for a noble family and remained in contact with his fellow Masons during his stay there. His second wife, Nancy Prince, kept a diary (which she eventually published herself) detailing court life from 1824 to 1833. Like some of the other black servants, the Prince family lived outside the palace and had a house of their own. Nancy established a sewing shop, employing journeymen and apprentices, and she was active in the Russian Bible Society, which distributed thousands of Bibles in St. Petersburg.
    Many black servants were royal favorites. The most famous of all was Abram Hannibal, whose family had a lasting significance in tsarist Russian history. Hannibal’s specific African origins are difficult to assess. All accounts agree that the African boy who later assumed this name was brought to Russia around 1700, perhaps from Holland as a cabin boy or from the sultan’s court in Constantinople. Many accounts suggest that his origins were in Ethiopia. Hannibal entered the Tsar's service in 1705, and from that period his biography becomes clearer through his listings in official court records. In 1707 he was baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church, with Peter the Great as his godfather. Abram took his patronymic Petrovich, from Peter. From that point the boy was treated as Peter’s godson, serving as his valet and accompanying him on numerous campaigns. Peter gave Abram an excellent education, especially in mathematics. In 1716, he was sent to Paris for higher education and remained abroad for seven years. Then in 1718 Abram joined the French Army for instruction in military engineering. Ordered home in 1723, he was assigned first as an engineer at Kronstadt and later as a mathematics teacher in one of Peter’s personal guard units. At this point, Abram was one of the most highly educated people in Russia. With the death of Peter in 1725, Abram’s fortunes suffered. He was not on good terms with the leading advisors of Peter’s successor, Catherine I <http://www2.sptimes.com/Treasures/TC.2.3.7.html>(Peter's wife), and in 1727 he was assigned to Siberia. After Catherine’s death and the succession of Peter the II <http://www2.sptimes.com/Treasures/TC.2.3.8.html>, Abram spent three years in Siberia. When Anna <http://www.guide.spb.ru/culture-n-history/history/anna/> finally took the throne in 1730 upon the sudden death of Peter II, Abram was promoted first to major and then to captain and assigned to the Baltic fortress of Pernau. In 1733, he was allowed to retire. At about his time he adopted the surname Hannibal, and married Eudoxia Dioper, the daughter of a Greek sea captain. Eudoxia entered the marriage unwillingly and Hannibal soon initiated a divorce. Although the divorce did not become final for 20 years, Hannibal married illegally Christina Regina von Shoberg, the daughter of a Baltic German army officer. She bore him 11 children and was his longtime companion. Eudoxia, accused by Hannibal of infidelity, ultimately granted the divorce in 1753 and was sent to a convent for the remainder of her life.
    When one of Peter’s daughters, Elizabeth I <http://www.guide.spb.ru/culture-n-history/history/eliz/index.html>, gained the throne, she made Hannibal lieutenant colonel of artillery, assigned to the Reval Garrison. In 1742 he was given rank of major general and served as commandant of the city of Reval from 1743 to 1751. In 1746 the Empress granted him a number of estates in Pskov and Petersburg provinces and thousands of serfs. Here, he retired in 1762. He died around 1781 in his 90s. Hannibal’s professional achievements were important ones for which he received the highest awards. He was the first outstanding modern engineer in Russian history and is credited with building a number of important fortresses. His knowledge of canal construction made him a pioneer in an enterprise which had proven to be of utmost importance for Russia. His son Ivan had an illustrious military career; two of his other sons Peter and Osip had respectable though undistinguished careers in the military and civil service. Osip’s daughter, Nadezhda, gave birth to Alexander Pushkin <http://members.aol.com/KatharenaE/private/Pweek/Pushkin/pushkin.html> in 1799, the greatest and most beloved Russian poet of all time. Her marriage into the old nobility of the Pushkin family illustrates the Hannibal family’s complete assimilation into Russian high society.
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    But it is undoubtedly a fact that the Colchians are of Egyptian descent. I noticed this myself before I heard anyone else mention it...My own idea on the subject was based first on the fact that they have black skins and woolly hair...and secondly, and more especially, on the fact that the Colchians, the Egyptians and the Ethiopians are the only races which from ancient times have practised circumcision."
    Herodotos, The History, II, 104 .


    Colchis is modern day Russia, located in now the former Soviet republic of Georgia. It is off the shores of the black sea under the prominent stare of the Caucasus mountains. In other words, it is located in Russia near the Caucus mountains. The strange thing about this subject is that Herodotus, known as the father of history, noted that a tribe of Black people were living in Southern Russia in ancient times, near the Cauasus mountains. Strange right? Well, not entirely. The neat clue in this story is that the group of people were Black with whooly hair. According to Herodotus, the fact that they were Black was becuase they were Egyptians, thus giving away the color of the Egyptians in ancient times, before the many conquests the land had suffered.
    How did Black Egyptians get to Southern Russia? According to Herodotis, a conquering pharoah by the name of Senwosret [the Greeks called him Sesostris] conquered most Asia and Asia minor. According to Egyptians priests, interviewed by Herodotus, Sesostris marched through Syria ,Turkey, Colchis, southern Russia, Romania, Bulgaria, and the eastern part of Greece. In Colchis he had left a colony [probably to establish a trade route, becuase of the rich natural resources of that area. Incidently Colchis, years later, became a very prosperous trade port].
    "In this way he traversed the whole continent of Asia, whence he passed on into Europe, and made himself master of Synthia [ a white, blonde hair-blue eyed area of people] and of Thrace, beyond which countries I do not think that his army extended its march...Returning to Egypt from Thrace [eastern Greece], he came, on his way, to the banks of the river Phasis. here I cannot say with any certainty what took place. Either he of his own accord detached a body of troops from his main army and left them to colonise the country, or else a certain number of his soldiers, wearied with their long wanderings, deserted, and established themselves on the banks of this stream."
    Herodotus, The History, II, 103-104
    "I asked some questions both in Colchis and in Egypt, and found that the Colchians remebered the Egyptians more distinctly than the Egyptians remembered them. The Egyptians did, however, say that they thought the original Colchians were men from Sesostris's army."
    Herodotus, The History, II, 104.
    One may observe that there are no Blacks at all in the Colchis region now. There is nothing but White Russian Georgian people of Southern Russia. Why arent there any Black descendants today? Can the fact that Sesostris left a colony of his army be backed up by evidence? Well, it looks like it can.
    Apparently, in 1912, a Russian natualist by the name of V.P. Vradii found a small colony of Black people in the area of Batumi, which is on the southwestern coast of Georgia in Southern Russia. Vraddi noticed that they were quite black in skin color and had very African features, while others were mixed with black and Russian. Vradii published a book about the Black tribe called, Kavkaz. After the publishing of his book, reports of other Black populations around the Black Sea began to flood local media. As other scholars began to travel the land, here in modern times, they too began reporting tribes of Black populations.


    There are more account of Black Colchians. In 522-443, a Greek poet named Pindar described the Colchians, whom Jason and the Argonauts fought, as being "dark skinned". Then around 350 to 400 AD, ChurThere are more account of Black Colchians. In 522-443, a Greek poet named Pindar described the Colchians, whom Jason and the Argonauts fought, as being "dark skinned". Then around 350 to 400 AD, Church father St. Jerome and Sophronius refered to Colchis as the "second Ethiopia" because of its black population.
    [ This information taken from: Patrick T. English, Cushites, Colchians, and Khazars, Journal of Near Eastern Studies, vol 18, Jaunuary - October 1959, p. 53. ]
    Moreover, a black Colchian writer, historian, and ethnographer, Dmitri Gulia (1874-1960) asserted that his peoples heritage stemed from Sesostris. He published a book called, History of Abkhazia, which shows that the black Colchian people of Southern Russia were really an Abyssinaian people of Egypt. he proves this by putting together a vast array of Abkhazian words that matched that of ancient Egypts. He also chronicles "family names, names of rivers and mountains, anems of pre-Christian deities, and much more." (Poe, 58)
    ch father St. Jerome and Sophronius refered to Colchis as the "second Ethiopia" because of its black populatio
     
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    Hello Sopdet

    You can not post an article in this forum without the expressed written consent of the author (unless you wrote the piece yourself). I'm afraid you have to edit your post thank-you
     
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    I prvoided links to the article,and the rest is just excerpts form books.

    You can post exerpts form books right?
     
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    Sopdet ... the author is probably hoping people will buy their book and the proceeds can go toward helping them live. If we take their work and post it on web sites where folk can read it, never buying, then we are stealing from them. While "excerpts" may in fact be legal and allowed in most places, we try to give the highest regard to the property of others. If we don't have written permission for ther property to be here, then only a few sentences (2 - 6), and a link to where the work can be found on the owner's site is all that should be included. It's all about respecting what belongs to our Sisters and Brothers.

    I hope this helps, making our copyright infringement policy more clear. Please, at your earliest convenience, do what the Moderators have asked of you (edit your post) and refrain from adding property without including the property owner's permission.

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    Some of us may buy his book. For some reason he got to stick white folks up in there...however, he should have first mentioned that "over 10,000 African huts were found in Russia" and then began his story from there...but I guess that would have left white folks out of it, huh?
     
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    So these people are still there now? Most Russians I come in contact act like they have never seen a black person before.
     
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    Interesting read.


     
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    The Global African Community History Notes
    By Runoko Rashidi, 22 June 1999
    Alexander Pushkin and the African Presence in Russia
    Dedicated to Dr. Lily Golden and John Oliver Killens (1916-1987)

    Pushkin was the Russian spring. Pushkin was the Russian morning. Pushkin was the Russian Adam.

    A.V. Lunacharsky

    From the most remote times there has existed in Russia people of African descent. Indeed, perhaps the earliest distinct African presence in Russia may be traced to the reign of the Twelfth Dynasty African king Senusret III.

    On June 9, 1999 I returned from a nine-day study tour of Russia. It was my first visit. The tour celebrated the 200th birthday of the brilliant Russian writer of African descent Alexander Sergeievich Pushkin and included a two-day Symposium on Pushkin at Moscow State University and visits to some of the major sites in Pushkin's brief life. The majority of tour was spent in Moscow and St. Petersburg.

    Born in Moscow on May 26, 1799 (several different birthdates have been offered for Pushkin) the patriarch of Russian literature was descended on his mother's side from Major-General Abraham Petrovich Hannibal--an African prince who became a favorite of Russian Czar Peter I (1682-1725). By all accounts Hannibal was an outstanding figure and it is quite interesting that he assumed the name Hannibal--himself an African and one of the most outstanding figures from antiquity. In an unfinished work, The Moor of Peter the Great, Pushkin paid great homage to his illustrious ancestor, repeatedly referring to Hannibal as "the Moor", "the Black" and the "African."

    Alexander Pushkin has been identified as the father of Russian literature and composed in Russian during an era when most Russian writers composed in French. The most distinguished Russian writers offer Pushkin effusive praise. Feodor Dostoevsky wrote that, "No Russian writer was ever so intimately at one with the Russian people as Pushkin." Maxim Gorky wrote that, "Pushkin is the greatest master in the world. Pushkin, in our country, is the beginning of all beginnings. He most beautifully expressed the spirit of our people." I. Turgeniev wrote that, "Pushkin alone had to perform two tasks which took whole centuries and more to accomplish in other countries, namely to establish a language and to create a literature." According to N.A. Dobrolyubuv:

    "Pushkin is of immense important not only in the history of Russian literature, but also in the history of Russian enlightenment. He was the first to teach the Russian public to read." >>>>>>


    COMPLETE ARTICLE HERE: http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/63/090.html
     
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    In the Spirit of Sankofa and Update!


    Mysterious black russians ancestors of the kemetians...no longer a secret


    .......Why are we afraid to tell the story that this earth was populated by the original Africans, we spread across the globe populating the earth? Even with
    Mt DNA now verifying this fact, we seem not to understand our significance...smh



     
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    HEY!!! Awesome find here at Destee!!!

    Thanks Bro Clyde for bumping this up! He laid it out! Also liked the other comments too!

    I know and read about Pushkin!

    Now this is what I like! Great confirmation.
     
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