Egypt : Book of the Dead - My first look

Music Producer said:
In reading the rest of the Spells I began to get an overall view of the Egyptian perspective of the after life. They believed that they actually became the god, or they became a solder in the army of god in the fight against evil, or they lived an after life as a king or queen living in sanctimony bliss doing no work and could come and go between the realm of the living and the realm of the dead as they pleased.

This is about all I gleamed from the Egyptian Book of the Dead because there was no focus on one god or deity and anything about the gods or deities appeared flat because they are only references to larger stories and information. Without pre-knowledge of these stories or larger stories of information, the bits and peaces of the Egyptian book of the Dead have no correlation for the reader.


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"Without pre-knowledge of these stories or larger stories of information, the bits and peaces of the Egyptian book of the Dead have no correlation for the reader."

And how is this "pre-knowledge" attainable when,

"that which was edited by the priests of the college of Anu and which was based upon a series of texts now lost."

Key words: SERIES OF TEXTS.

This means there was no one, no SINGLE TEXT!

FACT: Certainly, there is no mention of a SYSTEM or TEXT predating the Vth Dynasty referred as the "Metu Neter".

This is not to say that a SYSTEM did not exist, and let me be clear on this.

However....FACT: "it was based upon a series of texts now lost".

What I "am done with" (and have placed on "ignore") are those who seek to deny the FACT but can provide nothing more than condescending, personal "diatribes" in refutation without providing WRITTEN, PRIMARY SOURCE MATERIAL as "proof", or stating that "what is in the past is nothing more than illusion".

Peace...
 
omowalejabali said:
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"He states that a new development in Kemet theology can be found in the Coffin Text that the Sun God is no longer Supreme."

This is why I have stated that what Akhenaten did was attempt to RESTORE what was the ancient form of worship, nothing "revolutionary" in that, but his opposition came basically from a group based in Thebes that had "reformed" the ancient Theology, and their success in doing so is why "Kemetic Theology" today, under the guise of "Afrocentrism" is so far from the ORIGINAL THEOLOGY that what is passed off as "Metu Neter" is actually a "system" based on a multitude of sources (as is the Bible) but perhaps the most credible source are the PYRAMID TEXTS PRE-DATING THE FIFTH DYNASTY.

The problem I am having is when the "reformed" System (based upon the Theban Recension) is passed off as the "original" system rather than the System PRIOR to even the Heliopolitan Recension!

It has been suggested that I "am done" and need to check my sources. What I "am done with" is arguing with an dogmatic set of ideas being propagated as authentic when if fact these propagators themselves ARE DONE FOOLING ME into believing they are "credible".

For example, the B.O.D. are a collection or compilation of "funerary texts". However, from what time period according to most "historians". were the "new chapters" included? What about "ceremonial" texts that were used in the Temples or in rites of initiation PRECEEDING the VIth Dynasty?

Let me ask a question, and check the response:

FACT: The name AMEN does not appear in the Heliopolitan Recension Texts..

Can anyone refute this with EVIDENCE and cite the exact source as PROOF?

I repeat the question,

"Can anyone refute this with EVIDENCE and cite the exact source as PROOF?

And to be clear, I am speaking of "exact source" PREDATING THE VTH DYNASTY!
 
Music Producer said:
Time Period:
The reason I bring this up is because if you would notice in this thread http://destee.com/forums/showpost.ph...18&postcount=1
The papery of Ani dates to a period soon after the Hyksos expulsion and during the governmental take over by the Amun Priesthood that placed Queen Hatshepsut on the throne as Pharaoh. It dates to the period of Egyptian History as to when religion became commoditiesed and hustled in the streets of Egypt which explains the nature of the Egyptian Book of the Dead, which also explains why there are some misrepresentations within the spells themselves as pertaining to the gods, which also explains why several of the books were made as to Fill in the Blank. They were basically massed produced to sell to the public. The rich could get theirs customized but the poor had to settle for the pre-produced books available in the local store or temple for a small fee of course.

This is why it becomes extremely important to understand the time period of Egyptian Doctrines before trying to jump into the Spirituality of it. Just as religion is being pedaled today, so did Egypt resort to the same.

Can you imagine the frenzy that must have been created when the Amun Priesthood published that one had to have a Book of the Dead in order to be accepted into the Field of Reeds (Heaven)? Can you imagine the wealth that was made off the people in taking an advantage of their belief system?

Peace & Blessing to you.

Do you recognize the correlation here to what has been written in books such as Osman's "Moses and Akhenaten"?

Not to present any of this as FACT, there are some who equate Akhenaten with "Moses" and there are those who present him as "Aaron".

"Aaron" representing one priesthood. "Moses" representing another.

This is similar to the "Sons of Horus" vs the "Sons of Set(h)"

Aaronic priesthood or "Levite"

"Theban" or "Memphite"

This is why the Biblical O.T. and different Gospels in the N.T. have differing "geneaologies", because they represent DIFFERENT accounts from RIVAL SOURCES and , RIVAL PRIESTHOODS, and...

What survives as "Kemetic" was compiled AFTER the USURPATION of the Royal Bloodline vis a vis Ai, Horemheb, etc.

What survives as "Hebrew" was compiled DURING the USURPATION of the Royal Bloodline vis a vis Ai, Horemheb, etc.

Peace...
 
Music Producer said:
Time Period:
The reason I bring this up is because if you would notice in this thread http://destee.com/forums/showpost.ph...18&postcount=1
The papery of Ani dates to a period soon after the Hyksos expulsion and during the governmental take over by the Amun Priesthood that placed Queen Hatshepsut on the throne as Pharaoh. It dates to the period of Egyptian History as to when religion became commoditiesed and hustled in the streets of Egypt which explains the nature of the Egyptian Book of the Dead, which also explains why there are some misrepresentations within the spells themselves as pertaining to the gods, which also explains why several of the books were made as to Fill in the Blank. They were basically massed produced to sell to the public. The rich could get theirs customized but the poor had to settle for the pre-produced books available in the local store or temple for a small fee of course.

This is why it becomes extremely important to understand the time period of Egyptian Doctrines before trying to jump into the Spirituality of it. Just as religion is being pedaled today, so did Egypt resort to the same.

Can you imagine the frenzy that must have been created when the Amun Priesthood published that one had to have a Book of the Dead in order to be accepted into the Field of Reeds (Heaven)? Can you imagine the wealth that was made off the people in taking an advantage of their belief system?

Peace & Blessing to you.


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"This is why it becomes extremely important to understand the time period of Egyptian Doctrines before trying to jump into the Spirituality of it."

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