IN PRAISE, SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGEMENT OF ALL BLACK MEN.

FLATFOOTFLOOGIE

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One of the things I have noticed in my life from very young is the lack of encouraging words of support for young Black Men and boys. Most notably, rarely do we Black men actually offer words of encouragment to our sons, nephews, cousins, kin, and colleagues. And quiet as it seems to be kept, Black women and men are far more likely to encourage a daughter to be her best than they are to encourage a son in the same way. It is a thread grafted into the fabric of our culture by Willie Lynch ideology, which we use to control the forward movement and progress of one another, and we need to recognize that in order to make the necessary changes in how we address the progress of individuals in our communities.

Just simple changes in our language and outlook would make such a profound difference in our communities. Just knowing that there will be folks who will support you in the face of others who want to see you in misery, bolsters one's confidence than they can achieve the things they want to achieve - and to rebound quicker and stronger from their disappointments, as well.

I know that there are a few of you who want me to expound ad nauseum on HOW Willie Lynch is the cause. Sorry, I am not interested in the cause, but the cure. The banner of this website says that we should EMBRACE and ENCOURAGE one another, and I try to put that into practice as much as I can. It is NOT enough to talk the talk, and not walk the walk, and I don't feel that talking over much, or focusing on white people is the answer. We are already TOO FOCUSED on White boys and what they've done to us to focus on ourselves, and what we can do FOR ourselves. It's not natural for human beings to be FOCUSED on two things simultaneously - even with two eyes. Think about that. It is another story in and of itself.

floy floy!
 
dustyelbow said:
Sounds good but I believe young men can TELL how genuine someone ENCOURAGEMENT is when the ENCOURAGE is having a BAD MOMENT.

If you can weather your OWN and that of young men in the community then that PROVES it.

Otherwise, words are just that words. But the difference is the meaning behind it.

Brother Dusty, don't worry about me, nor anyone but yourself. You came into the world by yourself, and without the help, support, or encouragement of older brothers - whom you seem to have a problem with.

Just remember NOT to judge the sincerity or lack thereof, of another's words. Accept them in the spirit in which they are given. See encouraging words in much the way you would see any gift, as coming from one's sincere desire to uplift your spirit in the way YOU would want to uplift theirs.

BTW, brother Dusty Elbow, you seem to believe the older Black men OWE you and younger Black Men something. Interesting, yet what is it that younger African men OWE older African men since the debt cannot be a one-way? What are the services young Black men have rendered older Black men that older Black men OWE young Black men so much??? Is that a question you've asked yourself? Well, I'll tell you, brother, that you owe it to older African men and to your community, to be the best father, lover, and supporter of your family you can be, and that support(through your babies_ will be returned unto you a thousand fold. The tree is known by the fruit it bears, brother. If you are a giver, then give with a generous heart, and keep complaints out of your mouth and fulfill your role.

Stop asking others what they can do for you, and do for yourself, brother. Older Black men are the very LEAST of your problems as a young Black man, can ya dig it?
 
FLATFOOTFLOOGIE said:
Brother Dusty, don't worry about me, nor anyone but yourself. You came into the world by yourself, and without the help, support, or encouragement of older brothers - whom you seem to have a problem with.

Hey I dont worry at all.

Thanks for knowing how my life turned out. I didnt know you were there with me all the time.

I dont have a problem with older brothers. My father helped my then friends with things their DAD choose not to do like give them a haircut free of charge. He did not like it at first but he broke DOWN his WALL and showed his SINCERE EFFORT or LOVE for me and what I ASKED him to do.

He broke that HIS WALL, so that makes it EASIER for ME to SEE I DONT NEED WALLS EITHER.

WE WERE POOR. But by GRACE we are here TODAY. ALIVE to make a DIFFERENCE STILL.

I think older brothers and all should DEMONSTRATE their COMMITMENT to the YOUNG if they havent YET.

I do the same myself. Since then I have no problem with any aspect in our community. I accept us rising and falling as a group. But in my personal life I strive for higher aims not to distance myself from my group but to be a better equipped servant. I do not pass judgement on the POOREST of the POOR to our ELITE in providing SERVICE.

Just remember NOT to judge the sincerity or lack thereof, of another's words. Accept them in the spirit in which they are given. See encouraging words in much the way you would see any gift, as coming from one's sincere desire to uplift your spirit in the way YOU would want to uplift theirs.

I dont hold anybody to their WORDS. I hold them accountable to their DEEDS. And I dont count how many DEEDS and say your OUT. If you call me BROTHER or SISTER then that means we have an OBLIGATION beyond WORDS. I try to stay COMMITTED to this ancestral and spiritual MEANING.

It may be considered WEAK in this day and AGE but I'll take this over any of the OTHER CHOICE any DAY.

BTW, brother Dusty Elbow, you seem to believe the older Black men OWE you and younger Black Men something.

Older brothers are FREE. They dont owe me NOTHING. This COUNTRY OWE them MORE than ME. I commend older brothers who FOUGHT to DEFEND this COUNTRY. I also honor those who didnt fight but kept their commitment to our community and RACE. They provided a foundation for me TODAY. But they should ACCEPT young black men and women as they are if we are in this COLLECTIVELY. I DO. Maybe then they WILL SEE the SAME REWARD that YOU SEE as the BEST of this and that.

Something went wrong with the SEED. Not just OLDER BLACK MEN but the COUNTRY.

Now who have the PROBLEM if you remain IGNORANT on the matter while one tries to resolve the MATTER in his SMALL MINUTE WAY.

Interesting, yet what is it that younger African men OWE older African men since the debt cannot be a one-way? What are the services young Black men have rendered older Black men that older Black men OWE young Black men so much???

If OLDER BROTHERS are FREE then the YOUNGER GENERATION needs to MAINTAIN that FREEDOM. If you like the FREEDOM you see then you should be MAINTAINING this.

But if you LIKE BONDAGE and to REAMIN in SUCH then you can MAINTAIN that TOO.

Is that a question you've asked yourself? Well, I'll tell you, brother, that you owe it to older African men and to your community, to be the best father, lover, and supporter of your family you can be, and that support(through your babies_ will be returned unto you a thousand fold. The tree is known by the fruit it bears, brother. If you are a giver, then give with a generous heart, and keep complaints out of your mouth and fulfill your role. Stop asking others what they can do for you, and do for yourself, brother. Older Black men are the very LEAST of your problems as a young Black man, can ya dig it?

I dont worry about OLDER BLACK MEN. They are OLD ENOUGH TO MAKE DECISIONS on their OWN. And they HAVE. So DID the COUNTRY. I am working with what is LEFT. Not complaining but finding OPPORTUNITY in the midst of CONFUSION. And its a LIFE MINE instead of those DREADED GOLD MINES.

Deuteronomy 25:4
Thou shalt not muzzle the ox when he treadeth out the corn.

Take care.
 
FLATFOOTFLOOGIE said:
One of the things I have noticed in my life from very young is the lack of encouraging words of support for young Black Men and boys. Most notably, rarely do we Black men actually offer words of encouragment to our sons, nephews, cousins, kin, and colleagues. And quiet as it seems to be kept, Black women and men are far more likely to encourage a daughter to be her best than they are to encourage a son in the same way. It is a thread grafted into the fabric of our culture by Willie Lynch ideology, which we use to control the forward movement and progress of one another, and we need to recognize that in order to make the necessary changes in how we address the progress of individuals in our communities.

Just simple changes in our language and outlook would make such a profound difference in our communities. Just knowing that there will be folks who will support you in the face of others who want to see you in misery, bolsters one's confidence than they can achieve the things they want to achieve - and to rebound quicker and stronger from their disappointments, as well.

I know that there are a few of you who want me to expound ad nauseum on HOW Willie Lynch is the cause. Sorry, I am not interested in the cause, but the cure. The banner of this website says that we should EMBRACE and ENCOURAGE one another, and I try to put that into practice as much as I can. It is NOT enough to talk the talk, and not walk the walk, and I don't feel that talking over much, or focusing on white people is the answer. We are already TOO FOCUSED on White boys and what they've done to us to focus on ourselves, and what we can do FOR ourselves. It's not natural for human beings to be FOCUSED on two things simultaneously - even with two eyes. Think about that. It is another story in and of itself.

floy floy!


Quote:

"It is NOT enough to talk the talk, and not walk the walk, and I don''t feel that talking over much, or focusing on white people is the answer."

That's it in a nutshell.

To brother dustyelbow, I dont wanna name drop but I have spent what I beleive to be adequate time in service to uplifting younger Black men, having at one time gone homeless organizing against apartheid, and for the establishment of student support and peer counseling programs for youth at the college/university and community levels. Fighting for the retention of Black university students and junior high early outreach programs in an era in which these same programs were being dismantled along with other programs estabished under special action and affirmative action. Basically, getting a foothold into "the system" and fighting with others to get more folks through, and holding those doors open and "BUM RUSHING" the system only to be dissed by these same younger brothers for being "old school". So I learned in the early 90s to "pass the baton" and give younger brothers the opportunity to "STEP UP" AS i DID ONLY TO HAVE THESE SAME BROTHERS NOT RISE TO THE OCCASION AND HAVING SAME BROTHERS PASS THE BATON BACK TO ME!

Brother, if you are unsatisfied with the leadership of older black men, step up and serve as that leadership. Dont stand on the sideline "ish talking". Get on the court and "ball em' up"!

If you have no Black male role models to guide and direct you that not only says something about the men in your life, but it also says alot about your own failure to bond with and establish meaningful relationships with BLACK MALE ROLE MODELS WHO ARE POSITIVE!

Brother, this is a tragedy! And you need to start taking some responsibility for the role that you are playing because no one owes you anything. Be a "self-made MAN" and do for self!
 

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