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IN PRAISE, SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGEMENT OF ALL BLACK MEN.

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    FLATFOOTFLOOGIE

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    One of the things I have noticed in my life from very young is the lack of encouraging words of support for young Black Men and boys. Most notably, rarely do we Black men actually offer words of encouragment to our sons, nephews, cousins, kin, and colleagues. And quiet as it seems to be kept, Black women and men are far more likely to encourage a daughter to be her best than they are to encourage a son in the same way. It is a thread grafted into the fabric of our culture by Willie Lynch ideology, which we use to control the forward movement and progress of one another, and we need to recognize that in order to make the necessary changes in how we address the progress of individuals in our communities.

    Just simple changes in our language and outlook would make such a profound difference in our communities. Just knowing that there will be folks who will support you in the face of others who want to see you in misery, bolsters one's confidence than they can achieve the things they want to achieve - and to rebound quicker and stronger from their disappointments, as well.

    I know that there are a few of you who want me to expound ad nauseum on HOW Willie Lynch is the cause. Sorry, I am not interested in the cause, but the cure. The banner of this website says that we should EMBRACE and ENCOURAGE one another, and I try to put that into practice as much as I can. It is NOT enough to talk the talk, and not walk the walk, and I don't feel that talking over much, or focusing on white people is the answer. We are already TOO FOCUSED on White boys and what they've done to us to focus on ourselves, and what we can do FOR ourselves. It's not natural for human beings to be FOCUSED on two things simultaneously - even with two eyes. Think about that. It is another story in and of itself.

    floy floy!
     
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    Sounds good but I believe young men can TELL how genuine someone ENCOURAGEMENT is when the ENCOURAGE is having a BAD MOMENT.

    If you can weather your OWN and that of young men in the community then that PROVES it.

    Otherwise, words are just that words. But the difference is the meaning behind it.
     
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    Brother Dusty, don't worry about me, nor anyone but yourself. You came into the world by yourself, and without the help, support, or encouragement of older brothers - whom you seem to have a problem with.

    Just remember NOT to judge the sincerity or lack thereof, of another's words. Accept them in the spirit in which they are given. See encouraging words in much the way you would see any gift, as coming from one's sincere desire to uplift your spirit in the way YOU would want to uplift theirs.

    BTW, brother Dusty Elbow, you seem to believe the older Black men OWE you and younger Black Men something. Interesting, yet what is it that younger African men OWE older African men since the debt cannot be a one-way? What are the services young Black men have rendered older Black men that older Black men OWE young Black men so much??? Is that a question you've asked yourself? Well, I'll tell you, brother, that you owe it to older African men and to your community, to be the best father, lover, and supporter of your family you can be, and that support(through your babies_ will be returned unto you a thousand fold. The tree is known by the fruit it bears, brother. If you are a giver, then give with a generous heart, and keep complaints out of your mouth and fulfill your role.

    Stop asking others what they can do for you, and do for yourself, brother. Older Black men are the very LEAST of your problems as a young Black man, can ya dig it?
     
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    Hey I dont worry at all.

    Thanks for knowing how my life turned out. I didnt know you were there with me all the time.

    I dont have a problem with older brothers. My father helped my then friends with things their DAD choose not to do like give them a haircut free of charge. He did not like it at first but he broke DOWN his WALL and showed his SINCERE EFFORT or LOVE for me and what I ASKED him to do.

    He broke that HIS WALL, so that makes it EASIER for ME to SEE I DONT NEED WALLS EITHER.

    WE WERE POOR. But by GRACE we are here TODAY. ALIVE to make a DIFFERENCE STILL.

    I think older brothers and all should DEMONSTRATE their COMMITMENT to the YOUNG if they havent YET.

    I do the same myself. Since then I have no problem with any aspect in our community. I accept us rising and falling as a group. But in my personal life I strive for higher aims not to distance myself from my group but to be a better equipped servant. I do not pass judgement on the POOREST of the POOR to our ELITE in providing SERVICE.

    I dont hold anybody to their WORDS. I hold them accountable to their DEEDS. And I dont count how many DEEDS and say your OUT. If you call me BROTHER or SISTER then that means we have an OBLIGATION beyond WORDS. I try to stay COMMITTED to this ancestral and spiritual MEANING.

    It may be considered WEAK in this day and AGE but I'll take this over any of the OTHER CHOICE any DAY.

    Older brothers are FREE. They dont owe me NOTHING. This COUNTRY OWE them MORE than ME. I commend older brothers who FOUGHT to DEFEND this COUNTRY. I also honor those who didnt fight but kept their commitment to our community and RACE. They provided a foundation for me TODAY. But they should ACCEPT young black men and women as they are if we are in this COLLECTIVELY. I DO. Maybe then they WILL SEE the SAME REWARD that YOU SEE as the BEST of this and that.

    Something went wrong with the SEED. Not just OLDER BLACK MEN but the COUNTRY.

    Now who have the PROBLEM if you remain IGNORANT on the matter while one tries to resolve the MATTER in his SMALL MINUTE WAY.

    If OLDER BROTHERS are FREE then the YOUNGER GENERATION needs to MAINTAIN that FREEDOM. If you like the FREEDOM you see then you should be MAINTAINING this.

    But if you LIKE BONDAGE and to REAMIN in SUCH then you can MAINTAIN that TOO.

    I dont worry about OLDER BLACK MEN. They are OLD ENOUGH TO MAKE DECISIONS on their OWN. And they HAVE. So DID the COUNTRY. I am working with what is LEFT. Not complaining but finding OPPORTUNITY in the midst of CONFUSION. And its a LIFE MINE instead of those DREADED GOLD MINES.

    Deuteronomy 25:4
    Thou shalt not muzzle the ox when he treadeth out the corn.

    Take care.
     
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    "It is NOT enough to talk the talk, and not walk the walk, and I don''t feel that talking over much, or focusing on white people is the answer."

    That's it in a nutshell.

    To brother dustyelbow, I dont wanna name drop but I have spent what I beleive to be adequate time in service to uplifting younger Black men, having at one time gone homeless organizing against apartheid, and for the establishment of student support and peer counseling programs for youth at the college/university and community levels. Fighting for the retention of Black university students and junior high early outreach programs in an era in which these same programs were being dismantled along with other programs estabished under special action and affirmative action. Basically, getting a foothold into "the system" and fighting with others to get more folks through, and holding those doors open and "BUM RUSHING" the system only to be dissed by these same younger brothers for being "old school". So I learned in the early 90s to "pass the baton" and give younger brothers the opportunity to "STEP UP" AS i DID ONLY TO HAVE THESE SAME BROTHERS NOT RISE TO THE OCCASION AND HAVING SAME BROTHERS PASS THE BATON BACK TO ME!

    Brother, if you are unsatisfied with the leadership of older black men, step up and serve as that leadership. Dont stand on the sideline "ish talking". Get on the court and "ball em' up"!

    If you have no Black male role models to guide and direct you that not only says something about the men in your life, but it also says alot about your own failure to bond with and establish meaningful relationships with BLACK MALE ROLE MODELS WHO ARE POSITIVE!

    Brother, this is a tragedy! And you need to start taking some responsibility for the role that you are playing because no one owes you anything. Be a "self-made MAN" and do for self!
     
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    You know, brother Omowale, here we are trying to put together something which gives us the praise we deserve, and we've people questioning our motives and sincerity. How do you deal with someone and something quite like that, and not have LOVE for the person???

    It is not my motives or sincerity that is in question here, but the person questioning it. That is my take, and I would like it if we can move forward, and get back to the meaning of this thread, which is about us embracing and encouraging and supporting one another in all of our endeavors, and with all of heart and souls.

    BTW, brother O, you should be commended for all you've done with our children, and all that I am sure you have planned for the future. One of the things which I have tried to tell our people at every turn I get is, that leaders burn out in our communities for the lack of support we get. You are doing this, and you are doing that, and you never are doing enough if your name is Jackson or Sharpton or Elijah Muhammad, or Malcolm. Meanwhile, our people aren't putting one dollar behind your efforts(those who complain the most), and all they want is more, more, more. On top of that, they question your motives even when you've walked through the valley of the shadow of death for them. "oh, that was yesterday..."LOL!

    So props to you brother, and all brothers who do the wonderfully positive things they do with youth basketball, for example, here in my city. I can't say enough about these men. God Bless 'em to keep on keepin' on.
     
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    I believe this is good. Maybe not now but when things get DIFFICULT for all of US we know that SOMEBODY was there even for an INSTANT.

    I dont want anybody following me. I have SEEN what FOLLOWING has done in the minds of our YOUNG PEOPLE. I want them to ESCAPE and DO THINGS differently than their FATHERS of the PAST. I just SERVE in a capacity that compliments my own skills and insight. WHAT I DO IS NOT CONSIDERED IMPORTANT to ALL MEN (black white whatever). MY WORK DOES HAVE A PLACE. JUST not in their LIVES CURRENTLY. I guess we would call it PREPARATION for CHANGING WORLD. But only I SEE MY OWN REWARD and I have NOTHING to COMPLAIN ABOUT.

    My life isnt in turmoil and I have been on the INCREASE so based on my own TEST I have been doing something RIGHT.


    I have bonded with BLACK MALES. But AFTER the MALE TALK, other things like WORK (not for money necessarily but other motives) and IMPROVING UPON IT is like TALKING INTO A CAVE. YOU HEAR YOUR OWN VOICE ECHO BACK. I DONT EVEN TALK RELIGION and SUCH.

    WORK is a part of LIFE. If so, you do want to be HAPPY doing it.

    So, I excuse myself and dont want to TAKE UP any of YOUR TIME.

    We have DIFFERENT EXPECTATIONS.

    That's OK with me with NO JUDGEMENT in MIND. But I can feel the LENS SHARPENING ON ME THOUGH.

    Just ACCEPT and LEAVE MOST BLACK MALES and FEMALES BE.

    There will be an ACCEPTABLE TIME I believe. Just not NOW. And I do not try to FIT that CROWDED NEED just what I can and believe I can do and it may not INVOLVE leadership.

    I try not to do for self solely. I do for others willing to accept.
     
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    "So props to you brother, and all brothers who do the wonderfully positive things they do with youth basketball, for example, here in my city."

    Kinda funny you would mention youth basketball. Last year i was running a before-school basketball program at the middle school level, by myself, after the grant for the program was not funded. It was one of anumber of claases funded for three years under the federal BLAST program and the shame was these local and state politicians running for election and claiming to support/fund after-school programs but at the same time we were being cut. Some folks questioned why a sports "class" but it was a mentoring program that gave me an oopportunity to work with 8th grade students and preparing/condiitioning them for the next level and stressing academic beccause they had to maintain a rather strict eligibility because this program was also used to recruit/condition our boys AND girls teams.

    I was actually brought in by another teacher and we won two boys city-wide titles in 2002 and 2003. However, he decided to leave the program the next year and I continued by myself. Sometimes during tryouts I had more that 40 students every morning looking forward to running. It was a long program, from October to May, that eventually started to take a toll on me because of my other school-wide leadership responsibilities. In addition, I was a sponsor of our girls dance team which won numerous state and national titles in the junior classification (12-14).

    That's why I need tp send less time online and start looking for a job here in Texas. I't not so much an economic necessity at this point as it is the fact that I miss working with these young borthers and sisters.

    One of my former players was Craig Smith who this year was an All-American, senior at Boston College, who attended my alma mater Fairfax HS. craig was one of those guys who got passed up by USC and UCLA because they knew he had problems in the classroom. Eventually he went to a prep school and then B.C.

    Ironically, one of his Fairfax teammates, Evan Burns, who was highly recruited by U.C.L.A. ended up dropping out because he couldn,t maintain eligibility.

    My point here is that I have always felt, even when I was in school, that there can be a healthy balance between athletics and academics. I learned that from the old guys like Walt Hazzard who not only were pors and all american college players but the athletes at UCLA, from the men;s basketball team, were the one''s to first start the Black Student Union, Harambee in the 60s. When he retired from the pro level Coach Hazzard was one of my most positive role models because i used to get out there and run with him and marques Johnson and those brothers were very encouraging, and this was beneficial to me because I knew that I was not the best player around, but the guys I ran with from high scholl mostly played somewhere at the collegiiate level. I always wanted to give back to the community what was given to me and this thread got me to thinking that as weary as I am I still may have a few years left to positively impact someone in need of a good coach/mentor. That's why I cant really express to you how your comment has affected me today. I guess it was another incidence of affirmation.

    Peace!
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    brother dustyelbow, if i may, serving as leadership does not have to necessarily men you standing above the crowd creating a following. leadership can be collective, within the framework of a support group. folks younger than you need coaching/mentoring. it goes back to the concept of each one teach one. i'm just gonna leave it at that...

    Peace!
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    That's a great sound to my ears, brother, because reaffirming you in what you are doing, and hearing that that reaffirmation does something for you spiritually, does likewise for me. I know because there is nothing wonderful about working hard at a thankless task, and noone seems to give two cents about the obvious good works you are doing. Again, that is why so many GREAT people burn out, and don't even want to be bothered again...

    For example, so many people wonder what happened to those fearless warriors of 1960's Black America. Well, some are still out here struggling by the grace of almighty GOD, while others just got tired going to the well, and the well was always dry - trying to take blood from a stone. We have to realize that WE, as a community, NEVER gave these brothers and sisters their rightful commemoration, and are still looking around for them to do the work. Brother Jamil Al-Amin languishes in prison as we speak, and not many of us know nor care about the great debt we owe this brother. It's ironic because Black people in Georgia put him away on trumped up charges, as his reward.

    So, brother, keep struggling until it's no longer good for your health and happiness, then pass the baton on whether folks want it or not, because you earned THAT!
     
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