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    HOW FARRAKHAN BECAME A BLACK HITLER???

    Attack on FARRAKHAN: The Beginning

    The most recent Jewish attacks on Black people and their leaders started in 1983 during the presidential campaign of Rev. Jesse L. Jackson. The following is a chronology of these events:

    In 1983,*some Jews organized a group calling themselves "Jews Against Jackson" to oppose the presidential candidacy of*Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, a Black civil rights leader and founder of "People United to Save Humanity" (PUSH). The JAJ protested by taking out a*New York Times*advertisement with the slogan "Ruin Jesse, Ruin," mocking the slogan of Jackson's supporters, "Run Jesse, Run."

    In 1984, Rev. Jackson became the symbol of Black political advancement, registering thousands of Blacks and poor Whites to vote in local and national elections. Hundreds of threats against the life of Rev. Jackson and his family were recorded and several arrests were made. The remains of mutilated animals were left at the home of Reverend Jackson and his campaign headquarters in two cities were bombed. Rev. Jackson enlisted the support of Min. Louis Farrakhan, leader of the Nation of Islam, whose security force named the "Fruit Of Islam" secured the life of the candidate.

    Hymie, Hymietown and Jesse
    Milton Coleman, a BlackWashington Post*reporter, mentioned to a White*Postreporter, that he heard Jesse Jackson refer to Jews as "Hymies" and to New York as "Hymietown." These remarks were uttered by Jackson in a private conversation with Coleman and other Black journalists. The White reporter then reported this in an article the next day.

    The "Hitler" Remark-What's the Truth?
    February 25, 1984*In a speech given by Min. Farrakhan at a rally for Jackson, Min. Farrakhan noted the unusually bitter attacks on Jackson by Jewish leaders and organizations. The following is an extended excerpt of that speech. (The widely reported words are inbold

    "Now whether you know it or not, anytime a Black man stands up with justice in his mouth, his life is on the line. You know that, don't you brothers and sisters? When Jesse decided to run, Jesse decided to put his life on the line. It is unthinkable that we should let our brother go down into the valley of the shadow of death and we say 'Watch Jesse run. Look at Jesse go.' It is unthinkable that we should not go down with him so that we may go up with him. I say whether we know it or not, there have been over a hundred real threats on this man's life already and several people are already in jail for thinking, planning to do harm to this brother. What has he done to merit this kind of thinking in the American public? What has he done? I'll tell you what he's done. He's freed the minds of these young Black boys and girls who will never again think that Black people cannot rule themselves and go to the top, this is what he's done. What has he done? He stands up for the poor, the oppressed and the locked out. What has he done? He's extended his hand to the American Indian, the owners of the country who languish on reservation while others live from the riches of their land. He reaches out to the Mexican American, to the Hispanic American. He reaches out to the poor and to the women. But there's another segment that he reaches out to. He reaches out to Arab Americans. No president or no presidential candidate goes to the Arab seeking Arab American votes. Reverend Jesse Jackson has the nerve to do that and because he had the nerve to want to include all, not some, he's hated.

    "I'm saying to the Jewish people who may not like our brother, it is not Jesse Jackson that you are attacking. Remember this now. You're not attacking an individual. Jesse's gone past that now. When you attack him, you attack the millions that are lining up with him. You're attacking all of us. That's not intelligent. That's not an intelligent thing to do.

    That's not wise. We know that Blacks and Jews have had a good relationship in the past. We've gotten along well, because you're a suffering people and so are we. But my dear Jewish friends, you must understand that everything comes of age. We cannot define our self interest in terms of your self interest. And because our self interests differ because we've come of age, why dislike us? Why attack our champion? Why hurl stones at him? Why feed the Press so that they can create a climate into which hatred and bitterness and strife can be poured, creating the same kind of climate that led to the assassination of John Kennedy, the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X and Bobby Kennedy. Why create that kind of climate when you have the power to turn it around and show the world that you have sense? Don't you realize what you're doing? Press, don't you realize what you're doing? Are you as blind as the government? And if the blind lead the blind, both fall in the ditch. You are blind.*

    "You do not realize there are 35 to 45 percent of your armed forces are Black. It is we who you will send to Nicaragua. It is we who you sent to Grenada. It is we who you sent to Lebanon. It is we who will be sent to fight your wars. This is our brother. This is our son. This is our champion. If you harm this brother, what do you think we should do about it? How can we fight for America, if America kills all of our fighters who fight for our justice? This is a foolish thing that you are doing.*


    I say to you as intelligent people, sit down and talk with Rev. Jackson. Sit down Jewish leaders and talk with us. We are ready to talk with you. Sit down and talk like intelligent people who have a future at stake.*But if you harm this brother, I warn you in the name of Allah, this will be the last one you harm. We are not making any idle threats, we have no weapons, we [don't] carry so much as a pen knife. But I do tell the world that Almighty God Allah is backing us up in what we say and what we do, and we warn you in His name leave this servant of Almighty God alone. Leave him alone. If you want to defeat him, defeat him at the polls. We can stand to lose an election, but we cannot stand to lose our brother..."

    February 27, 1984*Nathan Perlmutter*of the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith referred to Minister Farrakhan as a "Black Hitler." Nat Hentoff, a Jewish leader and columnist for the*Village Voice*participated in a New York radio call-in show and also characterized the Muslim leader as a "Black Hitler."

    March 11, 1984*- Min. Farrakhan responded to the insult in a radio broadcast from Chicago:

    "So I said to the members of the press, 'Why won't you go and look into what we are saying about the threats on Reverend Jackson's life?' Here the Jews don't like Farrakhan and so they call me 'Hitler.' Well that's a good name.*Hitler was a very great man.*He wasn't great for me as a Black man (See*Hitler's attitude toward Blacks) but he was a great German and he rose Germany up from the ashes of her defeat by the united force of all of Europe and America after the first world war. Yet Hitler took Germany from the ashes and rose her up and made her the greatest fighting machine of the twentieth century

    brothers and sisters, and even though Europe and America had deciphered the code that Hitler was using to speak to his chiefs of staff, they still had trouble defeating Hitler even after knowing his plans in advance. Now I'm not proud of Hitler's evil toward Jewish people, but that's a matter of record. He rose Germany up from nothing. Well, in a sense you could say there is a similarity in that we are rising our people up from nothing, but don't compare me with your wicked killers.*

    "Why would we tolerate this? I've been among Black people as a teacher from the Honorable Elijah Muhammad for nearly thirty years. I'm not a stranger in America. I have lectured in every major university and college and theological seminary in this country. I'm well-known by my brothers and sisters who are scholarly. I have addressed every major Black organization that there is. I ask, why should we submit when a White man calls one of our Black brothers a "Hitler" that we don't rise up and take them to task? You wait for Farrakhan to come and defend himself, though I am a defender of Black people. Not that it matters to me whether you defend me or defend me not. That's up to you. But that would show some gratitude on your part for the work of your brother. I am defended by God and He's sufficient for me, He and his Apostle, but, when you can allow the enemy to call your leaders anything they want to and get away with it, then you are selling yourself again into slavery."

    Immediately the media was filled with Jewish charges that Minister Farrakhan praised Adolf Hitler. The Nation of Islam responded:

    Great" is a word that is assigned to anything that has a lasting influence or consequence. The twelve volume*Oxford English Dictionary*uses four full pages to define "great" and only one of the definitions suggests a positive connotation. The others refer to the size or magnitude, quantity or scope of a thing or event.*Webster's Unabridged Third New International Dictionary*goes even further. Its primary definition refers to a "large spatial dimension," but it later defines it as somebody who is prominent or of renown, and then uses the examples of "a politician" or "a dictator" or "a creator of political confusion." Adolf Hitler was all three.
    Also, Jewish author*Cecil Roth*writes in his book,*History of the Marranos:*
    "The Jews of the Joden Savanne were also foremost in the suppression of the successive negro revolts, from 1690 to 1722: these as a matter of fact were largely directed against them,*as being the greatest slave-holders of the region."*
    Does "Great" here mean "Good"? Some of the "GREAT" Jewish leaders of these massacres against the freedom-seeking Blacks were: David Nassy, Captain Forgeoud, Captain Jacob D'Avilar, Manuel Pereira, Isaac Arias, Abraham De Brito, Captain Isaac Carvalho, Moses Naar, Gabriel de La Fatte, Isaac Nassy, J. G. Wichers, Sir Chas. Green, Abraham De Veer .
    Judaism a "gutter religion"?
    Some Jews claim that Min. Farrakhan called Judaism a "gutter religion." Here is the actual statement from a speech on his return to America from Libya:

    June 24, 1984*

    "...America and England and the nations backed Israel's existence. Therefore when you aid and abet someone in a criminal conspiracy, you are a part of that criminal conspiracy. So America and England and the nations are criminals in the sight of almighty God. Now that nation called Israel, never has had any peace in forty years and she will never have any peace because there can never be any peace structured on injustice, thievery, lying and deceit and using the name of God to shield your dirty religion under His holy and righteous name.

    "America and England and the nations, because of their backing of Israel, are being drawn into the heat of the third world war, which is called Armageddon. Oh America, you have blundered so. And instead of recognizing the mistake you have made and make a turn for the better, you persist in your evil. And so the consequences of evil must come. You hate us because we dare to say that we are the chosen people of God and can back it up..."

    Minister Farrakhan used the term "dirty religion" to describe the practices of some Jews in the State of Israel. Reasonable people may argue that Moses would not condone Israelis who,

    · develop nuclear weapons for apartheid South Africa
    · put the Palestinians in, what Archbishop Desmond Tutu called, a state of apartheid
    · train the Medelin drug cartel security forces
    · train apartheid South Africa's military and police
    · sell weapons to "terrorist states"
    · torture those Palestinians they have illegally detained
    · have implemented outwardly racist policies against dark-skinned Jews

    Should these Israelis refer to themselves as Jews, one might say that they have "dirtied the religion" of Judaism. Minister Farrakhan regularly teaches that Muslim "big bellied sheiks who live in opulence when their people live in squalor are practicing a dirty religion." Christians that give the poor a*Bible*and then exploit their faith and take their natural resources, in the name of God, have dirtied the religion. TV evangelists who thrive off the faith of the gullible and the ignorant, have dirtied the religion. This concept is universal.
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    In retaliation for the Jews calling Farrakhan Hitler Farrakhan published two books exposing the true relationship between blacks and Jews. The Jews didn’t learn from FBI secret memos on how to engage the NOI. Here is a brief excerpt:

    To Director FBI
    Subject Counterintelligence program

    “The media of the press has played down the NOI. This appears to be a most effective tool as individuals such as ……. Assuredly seek any and all publicity be it good or bad; however, if the press is utilized it would appear it should not concentrate on such aspects as the alleged strength of the NOI, immoral activities, misuse of funds.

    Such exposure is ineffective, possibly creating interest and maybe envy among the lesser educated black men, causing them out of curisoty to attend meetings and maybe even join. At any rate negative publicity is not overly effective.

    The negative attack against Farrakhan backfired and now Farrakhan has turned the tables aground.
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    "Only those who wish to be led to hell, or to their doom, will follow Malcolm. The die is set, and Malcolm shall not escape, especially after such evil, foolish talk about his benefactor; such a man is worthy of death and would have been met with death if it had not been for Muhammad's confidence in Allah for victory over his enemies."
    - Louis Farrakhan (printed in "Muhammad Speaks" - Dec. 4, 1964)


    "Was Malcolm your traitor or ours? And if we dealt with [Malcolm] like a nation deals with a traitor, what the hell business is it of yours? A nation has to be able to deal with traitors and cutthroats and turncoats." - Louis Farrakhan


    "I may have been complicit in words that I spoke leading up to 21 February."

    "I acknowledge that and regret that any word that I have said caused the loss of life of a human being."
    - Louis Farrakhan
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    ..."We're goin to make an example of Milton Coleman!" cried the religious leader on a radio show broadcast from Chicago. "What do [we] intend to do to Mr. Coleman? At this point, no physical harm . . . We're going to punish the traitor and make the traitor beg for forgiveness . . . One day soon we will punish you with death! . . . This is a fitting punishment for such dogs."

    Coleman's wife, he promised, would "go to hell . . . the same punishment that's due that no-good, filthy traitor."

    The speaker: Louis Farrakhan, leader of the black Nation of Islam and an important supporter of Jesse Jackson's presidential campaign. His target: Milton Coleman, a veteran black reporter who has covered Jackson for the Washington Post....


    Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,954236,00.html#ixzz0wPDbyNBJ
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    “If any Muslim backs a fool like Malcolm in building a mosque, he would be a fool himself..." - Louis Farrakhan (printed in "Muhammad Speaks: Dec. 4, 1964)







    ("Muhammad Speaks" was an NOI publication that is now titled "Final Call.")
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    How??.....Louis Eugene Walcott aka Louis X aka Louis Farrakhan was GROOMED to be so by his teacher and mentor Elijah Muhammad.
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    Minister Farrakhan NEVER became the new black hitler as indicated by the brothers question marks at the end of the title to this thread....


    He was called "the new black hitler" by the so-called jews! how could there be a NEW black hitler when there was NO FIRST black hitler?

    & what does El Hajj El Malik El Shabazz have to do with a thread about Farrakhan being called a name by some so called jews that couldn't even back up why they called him that? Farrakhan even offered up a dialogue with them and they flat out refused several times until the book "the secret relationship between blacks and jews" was put together quoting their own so called Jewish scholars....

    Trying to use what Farrakhan said against El hajj and then saying that's what he was taught by his teacher/mentor is like calling El hajj the same thing as he was also taught by the same mentor/teacher as millions of others were/are and continue to be..

    So according to that logic, we are all in a way "new black hitlers" because we all have in some way benefited from the most honorable Elijah muhammads teachings whether we acknowledge it or not.....
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    The difference between Malcolm and Louis was that Malcolm's eyes were opened. So, he left Elijah and his lies.

    Louis stayed.
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    ....Furthermore, I did not reference Louis Farrakhan as any kind of "Hitler."

    I simply replied to the phrasing of the TITLE of this thread.

    So, IMO, if Farrakhan is to be compared to Hitler, in any way, I thought some ADDITIONAL examples of what Louis Farrakhan espouses would be helpful.
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    Hmmmm. 'Seems to me that Farrakhan has a penchant for making certain statements and then denying them or asserting that he was "misunderstood/taken out of context." :cool:

    From his comments about Malcolm until now, Farrakhan has "back-crawled" out of every inflammatory thing he's ever said.
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    That's not the only difference between the two, but you would not know unless you were in the know......

    Of course Minister Farrakhan stayed, he was not privy to what El hajj was privy to at the time as he was under El hajj. And really, he did not stay as he never had any plans, or reasons to leave in the first place. So to say he "stayed", respectfully, does not make much sense.

    They had 2 different experiences in the Nation for the most part and entered thru the door of course from 2 different backrounds. Minister farrakhan realized years later when the riff between himself and bro. Khalid (pbuh) came about, that he reflected on the riff between Elijah and El hajj and remembered El Hajj's words and how he would defend Elijah by using the Qu'ran because he loved him so much that he was still willing to defend his actions but he never got a chance too because he was silenced and unable to visit/see Elijah.

    So to say "malcom's eyes were opened" with a negative connotation is simply not true. First, let's get our brothers name right. El Hajj Malik Shabazz's eyes were opened, but they were opened while in prison, not when he found out about Elijah and the secretaries. If anything, his EYE was partly closed to Elijah beaing any type of example to the moral side of his teachings, but as i said above he still loved him at that point and was willing to defend him.

    - Would you care to expound on those "lies"? Or are you only talking about the women he slept with?

    Because i know you are not referring to:

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    So exactly what lies could you be referring to and again, why would you even be taking shots and Farrakhan, or elijah when the thread has absolutely nothing to do with them?

    "It is not neccessary to try and put an evil spin on things the mind has no knowledge of or can't comprehend"

    peace
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