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Black People Politics : Here's what is likely behind Obama's decision to send special forces to Uganda.

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    Omowale Jabali

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    I don't support imperialism in Africa certainly not in blackface and it had nothing to do with crab barrel mentality. Wrong is wrong. Period.
     
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    Omowale Jabali

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    Thanks for this very informative post.
     
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    In the Spirit of Sankofa,




    .......Well said oldsoul, great source worth bookmarking, thanks. At the end of the day, this adds to the conversation of Kony and Uganda, the real reason for viral videos and anything else, the "scramble for Africa," procurement of oil.


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    i am confused. just what would folk have obama do?
     
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    For starters, he can keep his hands off and stay the hell out of Africa. Obama is aware that African countries oppose AFRICOM. So what does the U.S. do? Go after a "devil" and in this case it's Kony. Tell the world - with the help of Invisible Children - that the mission is to help rid Uganda of this "devil"; who by the way is hiding somewhere in Central African Republic, while the dictator who most recently stole elections last February, sits in Kampala and meets with U.S. officials and leaders of Invisible Children - all the while it's supplanting Amerikkka's true motives of stealing African resources.

    If the real target was simply Joseph Kony, the U.S. would have used an armed predator drone don't you think, James? This is how the U.S. has eliminated several suspected leaders of Al-qaeda and the Taleban, after all it doesn't seem that Invisible Children is an independent do-good save-the-children outfit. They are paving the way - with Kony, brutal as he is, as the bogeyman - for AFRICOM.

    Kony is a nightmare, but Museveni has caused the deaths of millions of people in Rwanda, Uganda and Congo. And the U.S. and Europe are all accessories to the crimes occurring in the Congo. But the U.S. finds every excuse to do business with Museveni. Do you ever wonder why? As long as western countries get mineral resources from the Congo for next to nothing, Museveni gets to stay in power. But this should come to no surprise. The U.S. and it's and foreign policy hypocrisy has a long and dubious record of doing business with and supporting strong arm leaders and dictators. The list is too lengthy to discuss right now.

    I predicted in 2008 that Obama would launch a military attack on an African nation. Expand on the Patriot Act. Expand on FISA. Expand many of George Bush's policies. And erode civil liberties. I was stigmatized by you James and a few others (they know who they are) as a "militant", a "hater", and "conspiracy theorist" who has a "crab in the barrel" mentality. Well the truth as come to light and several people have changed their tune. "It's all about the children, we are told. Black kids need role models like the handsome couple in the White House. African American youth need to bear witness to black folk engaged in high society." Window dressing, outside show, and black faces in high places is not stoping Obama from continuing the same old white supremacist policies that have destroyed Africa. I am sick and tired of the role model crap. I'm not interested in "feeling good" because a black face is in the Oval Office. As a black man and a tax paying constituent it's all meaningless if Obama, or any other politician for that matter, does not push for fundamental policy reform.

    Obama has several political accomplishments that no one can dispute. Black people feel proud to see that there is someone in the highest and most powerful office in the land who looks like us. HOWEVER what is overlooked in this rosy depiction is the fact that Obama has refused to address generational issues in Black communities across Amerikkka that are the result of oppressive and egregious policies. In the past 30 years, for example, criminal justice policies have almost destroyed entire communities–black communities–through the process of mass incarceration. Disinvestment, failing schools, lack of affordable housing, exploitation and the list goes on. Many of the problems in the inner cities cannot be adequately addressed with policy reform. I know I know I know Obama is not the black president but the The President of the United States and cannot focus, solely on one population. If we are honest, we know that is a weak @zz argument. If not Obama, then whom? In other words, if we cannot expect a black president to care enough about our communities to stand up against the oligarchs and Wall Street thugs, then we have poor representation. Some of you may have heard the phrase, “I want a bulldog in my corner” (referring to a lawyer who will fight for his or her client). We should not expect any less from Obama.

    The black community faces problems that are unique compared to other communities. Therefore, a status qou trickle-down policy approach will not work. I would like to see the one person I thought who understood the needs of black communities make a stance–show I believe many black voters will be more critical of the next black presidential hopeful and expect more than black representation. It is not enough for me and should not be enough for us.
     
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    There is an organization known as Genocide Waych. This organization has a scale of rating countries based on their atrocities. The scale is from 0-8. Museveni's Uganda does not have a rating. However, some of its allies are among the worst offenders with a rating of at least 7. Ethiopia. Congo. Rwanda. The same armed forces that Obama is equipping with armory and troops in a phony war that has ceased in Uganda.

    Kony pales in comparison to the rebels in Libya and the forces of Meles in Ethiopia which are displacing and wiping out the indigenous people in the Omo river valley.

    Obama has more African blood on his hands than any previous administration and here we got folks talking about taking out Mugabe ?

    Just who and what have we become?
     
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    Since I'm in a talking mood allow me get some things off my chest. People routinely ask me why I'm so hard on Obama. I tell folk the first red flag was when Obama cut ties with Dr. Jeremiah Wright. Here is a man who Obama said he loved like a father. A man who Obama claims was a mentor to him. Please spare me the silly excuses why Obama had to throw Reverend Wright under the bus to win the presidency. That's nonsense. Obama didn't have to do a darn thing except tell those sniveling paranoid whites in the media he and Rev. Wright don't share the same views on every subject and that the matter is not open for discussion. Period. However Obama didn't do that. Instead Obama went on this rambling diatribe sucking up to the white electorate while assassinating Dr. Wright's character. I have disagreements with my father on many issues. But I be damned if I let a third party create a rift between us. But that's exactly what Obama did. He allowed these people to come between him and his mentor of 21 years for personal gain. This is very telling of Obama's character and suggest his bond with Rev. Wright was not solid to begin with. The sad part about this entire episode is how blacks shunned Dr. Wright to support Obama. Dr. Wright is 110% correct in his analysis of this countries economic and political terrorism towards African Americans. And if you were to ask any black person what they thought of Dr. Wright's political sermon, 99% would agree with him. But I knew we were in trouble when those same black folk reprimanded Dr. Wright for the sake of Obama's presidential bid in fear of losing white support and made Dr. Wright out to be some loud mouth, nonsensical, pulpit preaching old man. This is also very telling about us a people; 1. we will abandon our truth for superficial gain (black faces in high places) and 2. we remain mentally colonized more than we're willing to admit.

    I also would like to share some ideas how Obama could and should assist African Americans in the great disparities we endure everyday. Racial/cultural assimilationist and bourgeois blacks often say black "radicals" like me complain about the POTUS but fail to have solutions to many of our pressing issues. Truth of the matter is too many are more comfortable with the status quo. We would rather spend what little money we have on material items and trinkets in the local mall than build self-sufficient strong black communities.


    1) Fund a minimum 10 new medical schools in downtown areas of big cities. Black health statistics are the worst in the western hemisphere.

    2) Fund 10 new law schools in downtown areas of big cities.

    3) Massive job training fundings in all big urban areas: New York, Atlanta, Detroit, Washington DC, etc.

    4) lobby for the Department of Commerce to appoint unemployed and underemployed AAs to assist in building new cities and move - after job training - all inner city dwellers there. These cities should not hold more than 100,000 people.

    5) Change sentencing laws so that non-violent drug offenders be released for treatment. Ideally the prison population for blacks should be no more than 16-20%.

    6) Establish local peace officers in economically distressed areas. This should help reduce crime.

    7) Open up the Teacher's union to enable more blacks with college degrees to teach in the urban areas. Increase the starting salaries to match private industry starting salaries.

    8) Match the free money given to the fake Jews in Israel (3 billion + per year) with money put into UNESCO to build first rate research - scientific and medical - centers in Africa. Money to watched like a hawk. Blacks in the U.S. would

    9) Tax U.S. corporations which profited from slavery (use that money to fund free health care and education) and get out of Haiti and pay reparations. Expel the violent and exploitative UN personnel there. Massive investments in human capital there with funds for 5 medical, engineering and law schools.

    10) Open up completely to Cuba. There are millions of Afro Cubans, many who are farmers. Have Cuban farmers produce and trade explicitly with the fledgling number of AA farmers in the states.

    11) End this discriminatory war on drugs nonsense. Blacks are incarcerated more than any group for possession yet whites are the largest drug users per capita.
     
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    Thank you very much for this enlightening information. We are up against the great deceiver and it's a real struggle trying to discern the truth.

    Russia Today news organization has a relevant video on you tube entitled "Is Kony 2012 a Propaganda Campaign? "

    Pray for the safety of the children, it is so heart wrenching to see the way they are being mistreated.

    I suspect that the thirty thousand children that is said to be in Kony's army, may in reality have been taken by the well known body snatchers and used as organ donors, If so, someone needs to hang!

    Best Wishes; Thuringia.
     
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    Brother Mad Skillz ... you know i love you and i'm glad you're here, it's always a pleasure to read you.

    I agree with what you've said above, i just take it a little further, for example ... you say ...

    1. we will abandon our truth for superficial gain (black faces in high places) and

    I think we all do this. Obama is no exception, it just stands out more in the high places (gets more media play), but it is actually more important that it happens at the low places, for white supremacy to actually maintain its foothold. There are many more of us in the low places, than there are of us in the high places. The sheer numbers alone, in the low places making a change, could be catastrophic to the high places.

    But what do we do at the low places, we go to work even though we know we're not treated properly, not paid fair wages, not given equal opportunity, all of that ... we not only go, but we encourage our children to go as well ... never creating a space where we do not have to abandon our truths, the truth that we know we deserve to be treated properly. A lot of this could be done in the low places, never waiting for those in the high places to do anything.

    Obama goes to work like most of us, we do what they want us to do on these jobs, oftentimes without regard to how it impacts others.

    We all do, or have done, what you're condemning him for doing ... which is ... what your employer says do.


    2. we remain mentally colonized more than we're willing to admit.

    I agree with this too ... and take it one step further ... in that, if you think because a Black Man is in office, you can now send up a To Do List, with expectations from the same government that has mistreated you always ... to now treat you better ... well ... that's a sign to me that there's some mental colonization yet to be realized. It's the same government. He works for the same people. You want something they've never ever given, because they let a Black Man have the job, and now you're mad at him. It's like, why he take that job and get your hopes all up and stuff?!!

    Why would we ask a Brother to risk his job and life ... trying to give us what we've never had ... and won't do for our own selves?!

    It's not even fair, in my opinion, to expect the Brother ... on his job ... to give you / us special treatment, to rectify all the wrongs in the past, just 'cause he's the first Brother that ever got the job. That's krazee. We'd not hold any other Brother to that standard, no other job. The first Black College Professor, did we require him to rectify all the wrongs of the previous college administrations, admissions, etc.? The first Black Professional Baseball Player, did we require him to rectify all the wrongs of the previous years? The first Black Record Producer, did we require like things of him? The first Black Cashier at your local grocery store, was he required to make amends for any wrongs of the past? No, we didn't do that, for the most part we were just happy the Brother got the job, but we're all brand new now!

    That's not how they let us play their game, and you know it. So why put all of this on that one Brother's shoulders, when we know they aint finna let him do nuth'n for Black People for real ... no more than you can do something special or particular for Black People on your job, with your employer's blessing.

    It just doesn't work like that, and if we hold each other to such standards, we're going to always be disappointed.

    I say let's re-evaluate the power and potential in the "low places" and approach this problem from a new, different, and hopefully better place.

    It did look like Obama threw Wright under the bus ... but that was his call to make ... and i'd guess we've all made some questionable calls in life.

    Love You!

    :heart:

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    on the one hand black people have free will.
    on the other hand obama is just a puppet.
    i am so confused.
     
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