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Black People Politics : Here's what is likely behind Obama's decision to send special forces to Uganda.

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  1. chuck

    chuck Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Chuck:

    Yes...

    There is a growing anti imperialist movement worldwide movement...

    But...

    There are also a lot of deluded U. S. soldiers and their families buying this 'we got to convert those people ruled by supreme imans and arab monarchs' (read backward and primitive) to 'our superior way of life'...

    Allegely that will lead to less so called 'islamist terrorist' recruits...

    Etc.

    Instead what a simplistic take do most (if not all) of us have on world history!

    Actually it was the Muslims who brought civilization etc. to the backward white tribes of Europe!

    And when the whites under the banner of Chrisitianity regained control their nations: They led their bigots usher in a Dark Ages which took centuries of more enlightend folk to help their people rise above/beyond...

    But not enough to stop some white monarchs aka the ones who backed Chris Columbus etc. voyages to the so called 'New World'...

    Etc.

    Let us recall true world history...

    Not repeat what's being claimed by those who 'rewrote' it...

    FYI...
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    chuck Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Chuck:

    Any further comments about the Occupy movement should be posted elsewhere or we too will confuse the heck out of everybody else posting on this thread...

    I. e., once you recognize a poster has gone off topic, you should just tell them so, then not add to the confusion...

    Otherwise I am both able and willing to elaborate further about what you claimed...

    FYI...
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    chuck Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    First of all, my apology, since it is not my practice to just air opinions, and admittedly about a issue I know nothing about...

    Please just disregard what I've posted on this thread...

    Now I'll just shut up and eventually find out what this present Obama venture is being motivated by...

    FYI...

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    what are you talking about?

    There are over 17 threads here about 9/11 that clearly show how muslim Al Queda was created by Rockefellors errand boy Brzezinski, and it is Al Qeada's victory, and ethnic cleansing of folks that loo like you and me, in Libya
    that has enboldened AFRICOM to make this move on a Christian terrorist in Uganda, using this nut as an excuse to steal the newly discovered oil reserves there.
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    Chuck:

    Your takes...

    Not mine!

    On the other hand, things are related, be it the snail's pace pursuit of Aryan Nation's killers already in lock down, to those Oslo shootings, as well as when one remembers the rise of white chrisitanity came by the way of and decline of the Muslim rule of what are now Spain and Portugal...

    I. e., from the lame excuses which conned everybody into believing Saddam and Bin Laden were allegely allies, hence the original invasion of Iraq, whereas Saddam's inner circle how long showed Bin Laden's reps the door, when they came asking for support, when one considers the motivation of the 'war on terrorism' the promoters claim things which have been proving to be outright lies...

    But, among our own, they are as quick to typecast Arabs by the way of quotes from the Bible, as some whites did, to justify our ancestors enslavement...

    No bigots in our midst, too, bruh?

    Otherwise the immediate descendants of those new white nations in europe knew more about our african ancestors and the world, at the time, than most of the history books are being allowed to reveal even nowadays...

    Now I already admitted to not being an expert on this subject thread...

    Therefore either accept or reject my take as you choose...

    Otherwise also please respect my choice and right to comment no further, unless and until somebody else somebody also presents more than
    just another conspiracy theory...

    FYI...
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    Obama tells Asia U.S. "here to stay" as Pacific power

    CANBERRA (Reuters) - President Barack Obama announced on Thursday that the U.S. military would expand its role in the Asia-Pacific region, despite budget cuts, declaring America was "here to stay" as a Pacific power which would help shape the region's future. China has voiced misgivings about Obama's announcement of fresh troop deployments to Australia and has longstanding fears that its growing power could be hobbled by U.S. influence. But Beijing has also stressed that conflict is in nobody's interest.

    Obama addressed the Chinese unease, pledging to seek greater cooperation with Beijing.
    The U.S. military, turning its focus away from Iraq and Afghanistan, would be more broadly distributed in Asia, particularly Southeast Asia, more flexible and help build regional capacity, Obama told the Australian parliament."As we end today's wars, I have directed my national security team to make our presence and missions in the Asia Pacific a top priority," Obama said in a major speech on Washington's vision for the Asia-Pacific region."As a result, reductions in U.S. defense spending will not -I repeat, will not - come at the expense of the Asia Pacific."

    Obama was clear in acknowledging China's discomfort at what it sees as attempts by Washington to encircle it. "We'll seek more opportunities for cooperation with Beijing, including greater communication between our militaries to promote understanding and avoid miscalculation," he said. Nervous about China's growing clout, U.S. allies such as Japan and South Korea have sought assurances from the United States that it would be a strong counterweight in the region.

    ...Obama said the United States would seek to work with China to ensure economic prosperity and security in the region, but would speak candidly about issues such as human rights in China and raise security issue like the South China Sea.
    China claims the South China Sea, a vital shipping route rich in oil, minerals and fishery resources.

    ...The winding down of wars in Afghanistan and Iraq has opened the door to greater U.S. attention to simmering tension over the South China Sea, a shipping lane for more than $5 trillion in annual trade that the United States wants to keep open.

    ...Deploying U.S. Marines, ships and aircraft in Darwin, only 820 km (500 miles) from Indonesia, will allow the United States to quickly reach into Southeast Asia and the Indian Ocean to ensure secure major trade sea-lanes.

    ..."As the world's fastest-growing region-and home to more than half the global economy-the Asia Pacific is critical to achieving my highest priority: creating jobs and opportunity for the American people," he said. :lol:

    (Writing by Michael Perry; Editing by Lincoln Feast and Ron Popeski)
    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-tells-asia-u-stay-pacific-power-234935125.html
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    Indonesia? Now didn't some one we know live in...........

    And then again, China may be playing brer Rabbit, crying about what they actually want and the US may be serving the purposes of thier loan shark, now that Japan is desimaited by nuclear fallout and will in a few years no longer be an economic power.

    China cried and waved fists about moves on Libya but when Gaddafi, was assasinated and the nation colonized, they said squat and did squat.
    Now they can get the oil at 1/4 the price!
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    Written by Sekou (mwanza) Nkrumah, Chairman of the Pan African Improvement Organization

    (a few excerpts)


    By 2015, America plans on getting 50% of its oil from Africa. The Bush administration and Obama has continued his policy, which defines African oil as a "strategic national interest." This policy has caused, among capitalists, Africa's status to go up in U.S. national policy and military affairs. That is, the U.S. is prepared to go to war over Africa's resources in the interest of their national security. The inference is that taking Africa's oil in the interest of U.S. national security is more important than Africa's resources being used to provide food, clothing, housing, education and health care for Africa's own citizenry.

    There are over 25 different U.S. military programs organized throughout Africa which are now combined under Africom. It is established under the Pentagon with direct access to the Secretary of Defense (Robert Gates) and Joint Chiefs of
    Staff (Mike Mullen), which centralizes the entire operation, but causes the militarization of Africa and as a result carries out terrorism on the continent.

    The military programs that set Ghana up for Obama's terroristic activities are:

    1) Africa Contingency Operations Training and Assistance Program (ACOTA) – This is a program designed to engage in police operations against unarmed civilians and conventional military operations against the military of other countries.

    2) International Military Education Training Program (IMET) – It brings Ghanaian military officers to military academies in the U.S. for training.

    3) U.S.S. Fort McHenry's Port of Call – To train Ghanaian forces in port and oil
    platform security.

    4) Base Access Agreements for Cooperative Security Locations and Forward Operating Sites – The U.S. has gained access to Ghana's military bases and other facilities as operating bases for combat, surveillance and other military
    operations.

    5) Africa Center for Strategic Studies – This indoctrinates Ghanaian military officers – It is the notorious "School of the America's" for Africa.

    6) Foreign Military Sales Program – The U.S. government provides loans to Ghana to purchase equipment through Foreign Military Financing Program (FMF). If Ghana carries out U.S. foreign policy in the country, the U.S. waives the loan.

    7) Gulf of Guinea Initiative U.S. Navy Partnership Program Security – This program trains African militaries in port and offshore oil platform security.

    8) Exercise Reception Facility (ERF) – Established to facilitate troop deployments throughout the region. This facility is a direct result of the U.S./Ghana Fuel Hub Initiative. The facility is managed by the U.S. military and located at Accra Air Force Base.

    The ultimate proof that Obama is bringing international state terrorism to Ghana with Africom is recorded from a Presidential Town Hall Meeting Questionnaire in October 2007. Obama said that Africom "should serve to coordinate and synchronize our military activities with our other strategic objectives in Africa." And "there will be situations that require the United States to work with its partners in Africa to fight terrorism with LETHAL FORCE." Obama
    continued by saying, "having a unified command operating in Africa will facilitate this action." Thus Obama will not hesitate to kill, terrorize and bomb Africans in Ghana if the people rise up to take control of their resources,
    which will be a threat to U.S. national security interest. The Trojan horse is in place with Ghana harboring the largest U.S. embassy in Africa, and every embassy in used as a CIA headquarters to provide information to destabilize
    governments if they refuse to carry our U.S. foreign policy.

    ...The U.S. also has a vested interest in the oil that was found off the coast of Ghana. Their companies Kosmos Energy and Anadarko Petroleum, along with a British company, Tullow, will be taking 90% of the profits in oil revenue. This
    in conjunction with the 90% profits Anglo American Gold expropriates from Ghana's gold mines to the U.S. These are the main reasons Obama is coming to Ghana. He is coming to oversee U.S. capitalist investments in loans, military
    weapon sales, oil and gold. The destruction of Ghanaian rice farmers and poultry producers, with the help of the past New Patriotic Party (NPP) regime ensures a market for American government subsidized rice growers and chicken
    producers. This sabotage of Ghana's agriculture is imperative for a failing U.S. economy riddled with unemployment, a home loan crisis that has millions of people homeless in the U.S., and trillions of wasted taxpayer's dollars used to
    bailout the U.S. collapsing private banks. Therefore, Obama's impossible task of preventing the unavoidable collapse of America's capitalist economic system becomes the motive behind U.S. foreign policy...

    ...Ghana has never attacked another nation. There has never been a terrorist attack inside Ghana, and a terrorist attack has never been launched against another country from Ghana's soil. So the essential question is why is the
    Ghanaian military involved in so many military programs with the U.S.? The answer is clear, Obama and the U.S. military is using state terrorism by asserting Africom's control over Ghana's Armed Forces against other African
    countries and its own people to secure America's investments and control over Ghana's resources.

    source
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    I put down like, because I appreciate your effort to provide, but I don't like the news! Altruistic empathy is not a funny condition!
    One can have sleepless nights worrying about the fate of ones national community as well as the fate of ones ancestral community, and no one likes to have their greatest nightmares verified!

    It is 10 years after 9/11, and I can recall going up on my roof and seeing the smoke from BK, and then watching the buildings collapse on television like a controlled demolition.
    Now inspite of my watching the factual "Loose Change" I really am having a hard time accepting the truth of the matter, after the 400 years we have been through. Like we need a breather or something, you know!,
    But a brother I knew from work a Vietnam vet lost his daughter in the World Trade that day, an honor student that he was so proud of, and well you know when he heard that a borther was running with a Muslim name well he just mocked the hell out of that!

    But this article verifies my creepy feeling about a Black man with an African name becoming president and commander and chief of the most imperialist nation in the 21 century.
    You see the oligarchy sees us as Africans, here, in Europe, Canada and the Caribbean whether we choose to or not, and they understand pan Africanism, just that they have a different concept of it and that is to mentaly keep us colonized here and then physicaly colonize sister and brother back home.

    The spooky thing is maybe that is why we do not have a movement of all the people who really need one.
    Not a movement or an "Occupy" over the hell we are catching here,
    or a movement or "Occupy regarding the horrror and devestation that is going on now right this minute in 70% of our nations as despots clamp down on the masses to keep them from having an African Spring, and after the execution of Gaddaffi, scrambling to see how much favor they can curry to their former colonizer out of fear.

    A United States president with an African father ,
    now that these Illuminati's strategy is clear, was made to hypnotize the greatest number of Black people on the planet, not us! but instead Sister and brother back home!
    Because if Bush pulled this we would have been occupying DC big time! and the UN!

    We are now, all over the planet, like the battered wife who does not want to believe the facts a bout her husband as he beats her constantly, but not only does she still love him she does not want to leave for safety,

    And yet with all of my posts about facts about Obama's policies and appointees and legislature,

    I still like 9/11 don't want to believe this nightmarish plot on the minds of Black folks globally.
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    .......Great source worth bookmarking, thanks. At the end of the day, this adds to the conversation of Kony and Uganda, the real reason for viral videos and anything else, the "scramble for Africa," procurement of oil.






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