Wow, how could this have been overlooked for NINE years? This was a great topic then and still is--probably moreso today. I had to take a break for personal reasons and have just recently returned to Destee only to find some of the same discussions taking place as before. That alone should call into question by anyone who pays close attention to the dates that many of these threads were started, whether WE are making progress. Bro. Clyde...THANK YOU for bringing this thread to my attention again...it is so relevant but that may be a minority opinion since nothing ever came of this thread. "We must create a new definition for ourselves and work assiduously to make it real drawing on the models of our African ancestors who placed great emphasis on life affirming values, harmony, balance, right relationships, mutual respect and responsibility." For me, I need tangible examples of how this was done and ways we can incorporate these values in a modern society. Solid message but how do you actually accomplish this: "We can teach our people the problem is not us, the cause is the oppressor's culture, their virulent xenophobia, violence, gender chauvinism, class and color cast system. We must teach our children and re-enforce it in our adults we have the power of self-determination. We must create a new vision of ourselves, not as New Jack slaves, coons, sociopaths or hoochie mammas but fully functioning self-actualized persons and communities."