Black People : Do we have a collective plan to save the Black community from economic Katrina??

[Ankhur]

I typed out a step by step plan and why we should follow it, but some how it didn't make it to the forum. How disappointing!! I don't have the 30 minutes that it took me to type it, so I will have to come back to finish. I will offer this for discussion before I return, however.

We need to open small businesses. We need the teach ourselves and our children about ECONOMICS and how they work. Not just making money so we can be consumers. It will require courage because fear and ignorance have us paralyzed. It will require education which is not formal. It will require unity that is not normal. And it will require plans to recycle money through our own communities.

If you don't think Money changes address, mentality, education, crime, health, safety, motivation, and ability to take care of your family then I direct you to compare the differences between the affluent black neighborhoods and the poor ones.

I shall return.

Thank you and will apreciate any and all input.

What is your opinion of these ideas from the 60s?

from the NGuzo Saba, (Kwanzaa);

Ujamaa (Cooperative Economics)
To build and maintain our own stores, shops and other businesses and to profit from them together

from Malcolm X;

The Organization of Afro-American Unity will take measures to free our people from economic slavery. One way of accomplishing this will be to maintain a technician pool: that is, a bank of technicians. In the same manner that blood banks have been established to furnish blood to those who need it at the time it is needed, we must establish a technician bank. We must do this so that the newly independent nations of Africa can turn to us who are their Afro-American brothers for the technicians they will need now and in the future. Thereby we will be developing an open market for the many skills we possess and at the same time we will be supplying Africa with the skills she can best use. This project will therefore be one of mutual cooperation and mutual benefit.

 

[chuck]

My answer is a common sense and painful one. If we count all the black churches, all the black mosque, all the black sports players, entertainers and multi millionairs in America who did absolutely nothing at all to help or aid the black people who were visibly and physically suffering from the devastation of Katrina on a physical level....that alone should answer your question about the economics as well.

In all due candor and honesty?

After a lifetime of hearing and reading such reactions, based on heartfelt-- though poorly thought thru --appeals etc., i. e., via the person or person issuing them just presuming and assuming everybody have a seldom chalenged/unquestioned shared loyalty etc., merely on the basis of being of the same ethnic/racial background, etc., also time and again that person or persons seems and sounds like they believe what they want to believe, as opposed to what I (and others) know to be true:

That once some blacks make it, they no longer feel or think they owe anything to those who can't or won't, in our midst; as well as-- via the worse sort of self justifying b. s. ad naseum-- most of those folks actually kinda sorta feel and think the black poor are now the white folks burden to carry, their issues and problems to be resolved by the public sector, etc.,
and no further self help is needed, etc., at least none the aformentioned folk are able or willing to be a part of...

Instead, it's a no brainer and a given, at least to me, some blacks and their colored relations are as individualistic etc. as some of their white counterparts etc.

So also one needs to contrast their idealistic takes on the black haves, as opposed to the reality checks we black and colored have nots get 24/7, as I continue to want others to do, i. e., as regards the black and colored masses themselves, whereas while some are a part of the problem by the way of default, others have indeed decided to betray our bids for equality and justice, for the sake of those louses advancing themselves at our expense too...

I make no apology for loathing gangsta rap ad naseum:

And when it comes to crap like that?

Ignorance ain't 'bliss'...

As in folk like us here...

Not to digress...

Did need to make a point...

And let us truly be for real about all of this...

Dear Brother, you simply can't or shouldn't go on expecting all blacks etc. to be a reflection of the same ideas me or you or others who post on these boards etc. are motivated by as well...

Though now that some of them too are seeing their status etc. challenged, i. e., by what is a worldwide economic crisis, as well as a world's peoples who no longer consider this nation a beacon of equality and freedom, etc:

Eventually there may well come a time when a few of them wind up them following our leads anyhow!

 

[Ankhur]

In all due candor and honesty?

After a lifetime of hearing and reading such reactions, based on heartfelt-- though poorly thought thru --appeals etc., i. e., via the person or person issuing them just presuming and assuming everybody have a seldom chalenged/unquestioned shared loyalty etc., merely on the basis of being of the same ethnic/racial background, etc., also time and again that person or persons seems and sounds like they believe what they want to believe, as opposed to what I (and others) know to be true:

That once some blacks make it, they no longer feel or think they owe anything to those who can't or won't, in our midst; as well as-- via the worse sort of self justifying b. s. ad naseum-- most of those folks actually kinda sorta feel and think the black poor are now the white folks burden to carry, their issues and problems to be resolved by the public sector, etc.,
and no further self help is needed, etc., at least none the aformentioned folk are able or willing to be a part of...

Instead, it's a no brainer and a given, at least to me, some blacks and their colored relations are as individualistic etc. as some of their white counterparts etc.

So also one needs to contrast their idealistic takes on the black haves, as opposed to the reality checks we black and colored have nots get 24/7, as I continue to want others to do, i. e., as regards the black and colored masses themselves, whereas while some are a part of the problem by the way of default, others have indeed decided to betray our bids for equality and justice, for the sake of those louses advancing themselves at our expense too...

I make no apology for loathing gangsta rap ad naseum:

And when it comes to crap like that?

Ignorance ain't 'bliss'...

As in folk like us here...

Not to digress...

Did need to make a point...

And let us truly be for real about all of this...

Dear Brother, you simply can't or shouldn't go on expecting all blacks etc. to be a reflection of the same ideas me or you or others who post on these boards etc. are motivated by as well...

Though now that some of them too are seeing their status etc. challenged, i. e., by what is a worldwide economic crisis, as well as a world's peoples who no longer consider this nation a beacon of equality and freedom, etc:

Eventually there may well come a time when a few of them wind up them following our leads anyhow!

The point is however all ethnic groups pull together, regadless of caste or strata; in hard economic times , so why do you say we should be the odd ones out?

 

[Ankhur]

The point is however all ethnic groups pull together, regadless of caste or strata; in hard economic times , so why do you say we should be the odd ones out?

time is running out

 

[chuck]

The point is however all ethnic groups pull together, regadless of caste or strata; in hard economic times , so why do you say we should be the odd ones out?

Chuck:

I'll speak and think for me...

You're trying to be clever...

You need to exibit your intelligence...

Unless and until you actually reach out to/don't speak for folks I doubt you've met etc. in the first place:

You're no/not their leader/either...

It is the obvious you can't or won't admit anything about and/or you continue to be into denial about...

Yes...

When our people act naturally and normally:

Some responses are a given..

But...

New attitudes and viewpoints...

New generations...

Etc.

The short version:

Some of today's generations condone the same things I condemn as a given...

No use giving you the long list...

Simply put:

Just becayse if what some of you here given lip service to--though your lives aren't a reflection of-- 24/7-- doesn't even impress them young homies-- whose pants be draggin'...

Now consider how you also come across to people about a wee bit more than doing anything and everything just to be noticed etc.!

So time's just about up for you too...

LOL