Destee Let Me Help You Overstand

Destee · Apr 23, 2009

Is that what this is about ... you want to show me how to be as great as you are?

Okay. Kewl. I'm open to advice, improvement, etc.

Show me your 300,000 Members, with half financially supporting you.

Show me your volunteer Moderating TEAM with no turnover.

Show me your 150,000 Premium Members moderating from the Bahamas.

I'll be glad to sit our "skeleton of a web site" next to the empires you've built, if you think it will help us.

I'm objective enough to put my dirty glass next to your clean one, any day.

Just show me your clean one, first.

Destee

Da Street Rebel · Apr 23, 2009

it's all love ok when you get a chance have someone break the "psychology" of this

Destee said: ↑

Is that what this is about ... you want to show me how to be as great as you are?

please stop lol everytime you type you show you lack objectivity
was this all you got from this that i'm think i'm great? lol ok yes i'm and so are you the greatest and you've built a great spot that was never in question

Okay. Kewl. I'm open to advice, improvement, etc.

Show me your 300,000 Members, with half financially supporting you.

Show me your volunteer Moderating TEAM with no turnover.

Show me your 150,000 Premium Members moderating from the Bahamas.

i wasn't offering "advice" and funny you would say you're open to advice and improvement. so if that's the case why do i have to "show" you all these things??? lol the bahama thing i meant you would have 150,000 premium members and YOU'D be moderating for the there (the islands) and chiliing

I'm objective enough to put my dirty glass next to your clean one, any day

you know the more you type the more you expose your lack of objectivity
IMO and it'S GLARING

I NEVER EVER SUGGESTED THAT YOUR GLASS WAS DIRTY IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO USE THOSE TERMS THEN

I'LL PUT IT LIKE THIS

I WAS SUGGESTING MAYBE SHARING THAT "GLASS" AND NOT TAKING
THE SANDBOX APPROACH

THAT'S MY TOY MY TOY AND THE HELL WITH THE REST OF YOU

anAfrican · Apr 23, 2009

wow ...

i wasn't there so don't really know for sure exactly what was said or the tone of voice it was said in. but, i'm gonna ease on in here and, maybe, give somebody an opportunity to change the direction of their angst. <grin>

destee, it still looks like you could do with some Lovin all your very own. do you remember the time in chat (i know; long time since i could get there) when you thought you heard somebody say something and went off on a twenty-thirty minute "rant" before you heard us telling you that you heard/took it wrong? do you remember your thread(s) about how hard it can sometimes be for us to love each other? do you remember brother edward williams' thread about working through disagreements? perhaps that might help here, since y'all did such a lovely job of working through that "issue"?

DS(S)R, i do believe that you have something you are trying to say. but i think it might have gotten a bit off-tracked by what you feel could be construed as, "possibly", missing your initial point by a little bit and taking it somewhere just off-tangent? you've been here a while; you know that sometimes destee will lead with her heart. (truth, Dear Queen; you did drift a little bit from where this thread started.) take a deep breath, not because you are "wrong" or anything, but because somebody needs to slow this thing down now that it has gone off in this direction. no "blame" (on you nor on destee) for reacting to "heart stung" - consider sister true's most recent three threads [i can't help but wonder if considering the personality types of the admin/mod team might be helpful in some way]; it sort of looks like there might be some defensive mechanisms bouncing off each other in here.

watz, thanks for trying. i found your comment to help me to get a slightly better clue about the origin of this. while in fact you did repeat pretty much exactly what bro DS(S)R started off saying, it seemed to be a bit clearer or something. prolly something to do with it originally being said by a "soldier"/warrior; there are some things that we say in a manner that isn't always as "smooth" as it could be.

sister zulile; that was uncalled for!! "irrational hysteria" and "drugs/medication ... or lack thereof" is the surest way to inflame an already incendiary conversation! thanks for the additional off-tangent fuel ... NOT.

i wish i had some minutes, and that i could figure out which of the phone numbers would get to destee; i think this might be one of those topics that might be best served by some one on one voice communications. (it is easier to "feel" the other parties over the phone than it is in chat where attempting to interject into the flow doesn't have to wait for the mic to be relinquished.)

"it's my party and i'll cry[take my ball and go home] if i want to" doesn't always feel real good to those on the outside of the "argument". at some point, sometimes there needs to be the calming voice of moderation ... <ahem> <grin>

watzinaname said: ↑

Brother So'ja gave an accurate assessment of what happened during our meeting. About the post that I still had questions regarding... Within that post, Destee had an opinion about a moderating issue. In a different thread, Rich had a different opinion regarding the same issue. It was an issue that both myself and So'ja still were not clear about. Quite naturally, I was wondering why Destee didn't return to the post after having said she would, and Rich never responding to the thread at all. That is what my point was concerning, and I made my point early on.

I came into the meeting wanting So'ja not to leave, and hoping that we could have a conversation that would clear the air. I didn't come into the meeting wanting to leave. After Destee's comment about the year old thread in question, being from 3 or 4 years ago, when neither myself or So'ja were even mods, the negative tone, to my surprise, was set. After being yelled and screamed at continuously, and So'ja being kicked out of the chatroom in addition, eventually, I did want to leave.

I still love the forum though. Peace...

i'll have to agree that just sometimes, it seems that one could, rightly or wrongly, feel that there might could exist some bit of disconnect between the mod team and the house when things like this happen. i've seen it before, myself; some questions/concerns sometimes seem as if they divide the mod team and both sides of that division just drop out of it without achieving any sort of clear resolution. sometimes it's sort of like where the chirrens are left when "mom and dad" are on different sides of something and don't answer the "child", or, worse, team up to yell at the "kid". i'm beginning to feel like one of the other siblings in such a case; watching it go down and having my loyalties split between wanting to defend my sib and not wanting to further "anger" "mom and dad" by doing so.

perhaps going ahead and bringing the root of this "argument" on out into the open might help us all to help y'all clear this air? it don't feel good seeing you two going at each other like this!! maybe we could help?

Da Street Rebel · Apr 23, 2009

bro. i appreciate you but you don't know what you're talking about

DS(S)R, i do believe that you have something you are trying to say. but i think it might have gotten a bit off-tracked by what you feel could be construed as, "possibly", missing your initial point by a little bit and taking it somewhere just off-tangent?

really where am i off tangent? you're typing more than Destee shouldn't that be a sign:?:? if i was OFF tangent that would been made obvious

(truth, Dear Queen; you did drift a little bit from where this thread started.) take a deep breath

so who's off tangent me or destee? lol which is it? lol
so how am i off tangent if she drifted? lol

you know that sometimes destee will lead with her heart

we're adults here if you're still leading with your heart before your mouth than i don't know what to say that's why there's drama in the streets behind stuff like this, leading on emotion and not logic

i wish i had some minutes, and that i could figure out which of the phone numbers would get to destee; i think this might be one of those topics that might be best served by some one on one voice communications. (it is easier to "feel" the other parties over the phone than it is in chat where attempting to interject into the flow doesn't have to wait for the mic to be relinquished.)

i appreciate you coming with this. i didn't want it to come to this
but i stated my position the evidence is right in front of you

"it's my party and i'll cry[take my ball and go home] if i want to" doesn't always feel real good to those on the outside of the "argument". at some point, sometimes there needs to be the calming voice of moderation

exactly how can there be a calming voice when the main voice
is crying i'm taking my ball and going home? it's their ball

perhaps going ahead and bringing the root of this "argument" on out into the open might help us all to help y'all clear this air?

we've already discovered the "ROOT" problem haven't you understood anything here?

thank you bro. anafrican i do NOT look i down on your attempt make
peace, my contention throughout this whole thread is that if there was an attempt at peace this thread would not be here

also you've missed are very IMPORTANT point we can still have a discussion and still love and respect destee but i maintain

how can you "solve" anything if there is anything to "solve" if there's no
discussion? i don't see how that is possible

again Anafrican i appreciate your intent here and i respect that

sometimes it's sort of like where the chirrens are left when "mom and dad" are on different sides of something and don't answer the "child", or, worse, team up to yell at the "kid

Ionlyspeaktruth · Apr 23, 2009

anAfrican said: ↑

wow ...

i wasn't there so don't really know for sure exactly what was said or the tone of voice it was said in. but, i'm gonna ease on in here and, maybe, give somebody an opportunity to change the direction of their angst. <grin>

destee, it still looks like you could do with some Lovin all your very own. do you remember the time in chat (i know; long time since i could get there) when you thought you heard somebody say something and went off on a twenty-thirty minute "rant" before you heard us telling you that you heard/took it wrong? do you remember your thread(s) about how hard it can sometimes be for us to love each other? do you remember brother edward williams' thread about working through disagreements? perhaps that might help here, since y'all did such a lovely job of working through that "issue"?

DS(S)R, i do believe that you have something you are trying to say. but i think it might have gotten a bit off-tracked by what you feel could be construed as, "possibly", missing your initial point by a little bit and taking it somewhere just off-tangent? you've been here a while; you know that sometimes destee will lead with her heart. (truth, Dear Queen; you did drift a little bit from where this thread started.) take a deep breath, not because you are "wrong" or anything, but because somebody needs to slow this thing down now that it has gone off in this direction. no "blame" (on you nor on destee) for reacting to "heart stung" - consider sister true's most recent three threads [i can't help but wonder if considering the personality types of the admin/mod team might be helpful in some way]; it sort of looks like there might be some defensive mechanisms bouncing off each other in here.

watz, thanks for trying. i found your comment to help me to get a slightly better clue about the origin of this. while in fact you did repeat pretty much exactly what bro DS(S)R started off saying, it seemed to be a bit clearer or something. prolly something to do with it originally being said by a "soldier"/warrior; there are some things that we say in a manner that isn't always as "smooth" as it could be.

sister zulile; that was uncalled for!! "irrational hysteria" and "drugs/medication ... or lack thereof" is the surest way to inflame an already incendiary conversation! thanks for the additional off-tangent fuel ... NOT.

i wish i had some minutes, and that i could figure out which of the phone numbers would get to destee; i think this might be one of those topics that might be best served by some one on one voice communications. (it is easier to "feel" the other parties over the phone than it is in chat where attempting to interject into the flow doesn't have to wait for the mic to be relinquished.)

"it's my party and i'll cry[take my ball and go home] if i want to" doesn't always feel real good to those on the outside of the "argument". at some point, sometimes there needs to be the calming voice of moderation ... <ahem> <grin>

i'll have to agree that just sometimes, it seems that one could, rightly or wrongly, feel that there might could exist some bit of disconnect between the mod team and the house when things like this happen. i've seen it before, myself; some questions/concerns sometimes seem as if they divide the mod team and both sides of that division just drop out of it without achieving any sort of clear resolution. sometimes it's sort of like where the chirrens are left when "mom and dad" are on different sides of something and don't answer the "child", or, worse, team up to yell at the "kid". i'm beginning to feel like one of the other siblings in such a case; watching it go down and having my loyalties split between wanting to defend my sib and not wanting to further "anger" "mom and dad" by doing so.

perhaps going ahead and bringing the root of this "argument" on out into the open might help us all to help y'all clear this air? it don't feel good seeing you two going at each other like this!! maybe we could help?

You know what? I have to say that after reading the comments here you are WaaaY off base. If your idea is to come join hands and things will be OK. I think that is worse almost than trying to SHUT SOMEBODY UP! Anyone is gonna be heated if they feel that they are being shut down as to their right to be heard. What is hard about that?