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...What do you believe that the Bible says about money and the way you should handle it?


I want to explore this because in the last 5 years, I've really begun to see many things that many of our church leaders do not discuss that could free us financially. I began learning about money from a Bible-based course called Financial Peace University, which taught me several things right out of scripture.

Here's a few that made me take a serious look at scriptures about money:

Proverbs 21:20 (NIV)
"In the house of the wise are stores of choice food and oil, but a foolish man devours all he has."

Belief: Wise people who save a portion of what they earn consistently become wealthy. Foolish people (Solomon's words, not mine) spend everything they make without saving anything.

BTW, I've been on the foolish side of the coin, too.

Proverbs 22:7
"The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender."

Belief: Borrowing money enslaves you spiritually on one of the deepest levels possible. It is not wise and it will rob you of the wealth you could have as a blessing from doing smart stuff with money consistently. More importantly, borrowing robs you of a majority of your spiritual peace.

Anybody else care to share tidbits of what they believe?
 
...What do you believe that the Bible says about money and the way you should handle it?


I want to explore this because in the last 5 years, I've really begun to see many things that many of our church leaders do not discuss that could free us financially. I began learning about money from a Bible-based course called Financial Peace University, which taught me several things right out of scripture.

Here's a few that made me take a serious look at scriptures about money:

Proverbs 21:20 (NIV)
"In the house of the wise are stores of choice food and oil, but a foolish man devours all he has."

Belief: Wise people who save a portion of what they earn consistently become wealthy. Foolish people (Solomon's words, not mine) spend everything they make without saving anything.

BTW, I've been on the foolish side of the coin, too.

Proverbs 22:7
"The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender."

Belief: Borrowing money enslaves you spiritually on one of the deepest levels possible. It is not wise and it will rob you of the wealth you could have as a blessing from doing smart stuff with money consistently. More importantly, borrowing robs you of a majority of your spiritual peace.

Anybody else care to share tidbits of what they believe?

Yes indeed and I will be back later today with my input. Thanks!
 
...What do you believe that the Bible says about money and the way you should handle it?


I want to explore this because in the last 5 years, I've really begun to see many things that many of our church leaders do not discuss that could free us financially. I began learning about money from a Bible-based course called Financial Peace University, which taught me several things right out of scripture.

Here's a few that made me take a serious look at scriptures about money:

Proverbs 21:20 (NIV)
"In the house of the wise are stores of choice food and oil, but a foolish man devours all he has."

Belief: Wise people who save a portion of what they earn consistently become wealthy. Foolish people (Solomon's words, not mine) spend everything they make without saving anything.

BTW, I've been on the foolish side of the coin, too.

Proverbs 22:7
"The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender."

Belief: Borrowing money enslaves you spiritually on one of the deepest levels possible. It is not wise and it will rob you of the wealth you could have as a blessing from doing smart stuff with money consistently. More importantly, borrowing robs you of a majority of your spiritual peace.

Anybody else care to share tidbits of what they believe?

I love this topic and I am still in a learning phase on this issue. I don't know if I have real input but I do have some thoughts and questions I think about some times on this subject in regards to the Bible. I wonder what you think about and/or how you would apply what you wrote to what Jesus spoke about in terms of 'the Beattitudes'; When he spoke about how 'the poor in spirit shall inherit the earth' and i wonder about other things in terms of 'poor people'. For example when Peter said 'silver and gold, I have not, but in the name of Jesus, rise up and walk'. I don't have any answers at this point, just trying to work out some thoughts.
 
...What do you believe that the Bible says about money and the way you should handle it?


I want to explore this because in the last 5 years, I've really begun to see many things that many of our church leaders do not discuss that could free us financially. I began learning about money from a Bible-based course called Financial Peace University, which taught me several things right out of scripture.

Here's a few that made me take a serious look at scriptures about money:

Proverbs 21:20 (NIV)
"In the house of the wise are stores of choice food and oil, but a foolish man devours all he has."

Belief: Wise people who save a portion of what they earn consistently become wealthy. Foolish people (Solomon's words, not mine) spend everything they make without saving anything.

BTW, I've been on the foolish side of the coin, too.

Proverbs 22:7
"The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender."

Belief: Borrowing money enslaves you spiritually on one of the deepest levels possible. It is not wise and it will rob you of the wealth you could have as a blessing from doing smart stuff with money consistently. More importantly, borrowing robs you of a majority of your spiritual peace.

Anybody else care to share tidbits of what they believe?

Greetings. I'm late in my response, but nevertheless...

I believe that tithing in the old testament was obeyed as an obligation or duty and in the new testament we uphold it as an honor or privilege. The Lord is not only looking at how much we give but what we do with what we keep. What is are our intent with our valuables? Is the focus to be a good steward and build up our individual empire OR to help build up His kingdom. Last, I do not believe tithing can only be done in the form of money. You can tithe with your time, your home, your car..anything of value that can be used for His glory. Many people do not have money, but have other ways to provide an offering.


Leviticus 27:30

King James Version (KJV)

30And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD's: it is holy unto the Lord

I Corinthians 16:2

King James Version (KJV)

22Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come

II Corinthians 9:7

King James Version (KJV)

7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

Blessings:heart:
 
I love this topic and I am still in a learning phase on this issue. I don't know if I have real input but I do have some thoughts and questions I think about some times on this subject in regards to the Bible. I wonder what you think about and/or how you would apply what you wrote to what Jesus spoke about in terms of 'the Beattitudes'; When he spoke about how 'the poor in spirit shall inherit the earth' and i wonder about other things in terms of 'poor people'. For example when Peter said 'silver and gold, I have not, but in the name of Jesus, rise up and walk'. I don't have any answers at this point, just trying to work out some thoughts.


Interesting question. BTW, a small correction:

"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." - Matthew 5:1

Here's how I would address it.

When you see that particular be-attitude about about the "poor in spirit," this verse is not referring to people with a certain amount of money. That be-attitude is referring to people who get the God-inspired idea that their service to God and fulfilling his will is more important than anything else, period. I believe this to be true, without question. I value God's will so much that I will search out God's instructions for every aspect of my life, including money.

Many people try to address this be-attitude as though it is referring to the idea that the only people that God considers to be righteous are those who remain in poverty. So not true. In Proverbs, there is a verse that states directly that the rich and the poor have one fact in common: the Lord made BOTH of them.

Not only would I have people consider Jesus' sermon about the attitudes you are supposed to have, but also his parables. Over 75% of them, if you pay attention, has something to do with the way you handle money, on top of having the right heart and the right spirit. The Good Samaritan could not have taken care of the robbed Hebrew man ( in the manner that he did if he had no money to have him taken care of. That parable ties money with loving thy neighbor as you would yourself. One of my favorites is the prodigal son. Part of it shows what happens when a son has provision given to him and the son with the inheritance ignores godly financial instructions - he spent the inheritance on wild living, wasting it on partying and with women who only wanted a part of his wealth.

Some people will immediately point to the parable of the rich fool who built up his barns or the parable of the Rich man and Lazarus to drive into people the concept that money is evil, but that concept is a lie. Both of those rich men were condemned for their selfishness, not for their wealth. The rich fool wanted to be flashy with his wealth rather than generously giving to those who were in need. The rich man would not even so much as feed morsels to his servant, but wanted to oppress him out of selfishness and greed. The biblical proverb that applies here is that he who ignores the cries of the poor will himself be ignored in his time of need. There is no indication in any of those parables that money is the problem. Nowhere in the bible is there any indication that money, in and of itself, is evil. As a matter of fact, the last thing in Genesis one that was mentioned as good was gold. Further, the bible says that "the love of money is the root of all evil," not money (I Timothy 6:10). And the verse before the one I mentioned speaks of the temptations and sorrows that befall the greedy, the arrogant, and the selfish.
An arrogant, greedy, or selfish person is not concerned with what God wants, and thus cannot be "poor in spirit."

A direct money principle that relates to being poor in spirit is the biblical truth that God owns everything in existence (Psalm 24:1). So being poor in spirit really means that you care more about what God says than what your stewardship to God (handling an array of affairs as one of His representatives) can earn you. That attitude in no way negates what can be earned, however. It is a biblical principle that if you work, you have the right to eat. The converse of this principle is that those who do not work should not eat. Keeping these principles in mind and living by them because they are part of the way God wants you to live is being poor in spirit.

Hope that answered your inquiry.
 

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