yeah, and i told him too matter fact, i told him i don't care how holy he thinks he is, i still want to "hit it" lol told him it's time to change that perception, the unsexy perception what's sexier then a man who respects women? a women that knows her self. the only difference between the two, is the opinion of the person viewing, and what they apply what u see is what u get and i've experience the whole s & m, dominatrix, my mom was one of those, and it is another extension of catholocism, witchcraft and the master/slave mentality God is very sexy......... um um good