Black People : Max Julien & Black Pimp Mentality

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Max Julien
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Julien
On May 11, 1983, years after its release, "The Mack" entered the non-competitive category of The Cannes Film Festival. Max Julien who starred as Goldie was dubbed "one of the most popular and important filmmakers in America" (L.A. Times), and for decades has been the subject of worldwide newspaper articles and graced the covers of major magazines including Ebony and Jet.

The Mack is a 1973 blaxploitation film starring Max Julien and Richard Pryor.
The movie deals with the life of John Mickens (AKA Goldie), a former drug dealer recently released from prison who becomes a big-time pimp. Standing in his way is another pimp named Pretty Tony, two corrupt white cops, a local crime lord, and even his own brother (the black nationalist), who try to force him out of the business. The main character was actually a real life former pimp and the movie contains other former pimps as well.

The Black Pimp Mentality
With the release and subsequent award nominations for the movie 'Hustle and Flow' renewed attention has focused on the anti-hero personage of the Black pimp. The movie, which was written and directed by Craig Brewer (a White man) has the protagonist and pimp character, played by talented actor Terrance Howard, attempting to ply slick verbalism into a successful career as a rap artist.

The activity and symbolism of pimps and pimping, especially as it is played out in the Black ghetto streets of urban America, has attained a kind of perverse status. Yet, as has been the case for many decades, the Black pimp character and those associated with this lifestyle are also parodied and caricatured for the purpose of humor and amusement.

For with all the ghetto lore and glorification of the urban pimp, he is often perceived by many as a clownish figure living life on the fringes and being reduced (because of White society's emasculation of him) to surviving on the fickle allegiance and whims of the urban street prostitute.

There are extremely destructive social and psychological dynamics and nuances that are at the core of the Black pimp mystique, and which have their genesis on the slave farms and plantations of early America.

Throughout the duration of chattel slavery, Black men who were traditionally the protectors and sustainers of Black women were regulated to the status of a non-person. They had no authority or power to fulfill their roles as providers and maintainers of their women. Any sacred and meaningful relationship with which they were involved, whether the ties of siblings, friendship, the repose between father and children, or the inviolable sanctity of marriage, were obliterated and the Black man was reduced to a empty shell of himself.
http://www.***************/columns/shelton/vantagepoint/pimpmind.php

What's Your Opinion On Max Julien and black pimp mentality?
 
Black pimp mentality is real and live .
look at Snoop Dogg .....girls gone wild and other pimp showcases he done
then there is the real deal of pimpin / chi very own Bishop Don "Magic" Juan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_%22Magic%22_Juan

Don "Magic" Juan (born Donald Campbell in 1950, aka The Chairman of the Board, Archbishop Don 'Magic' Juan, Bishop Magic Juan, and Bishop) is an American hip-hop artist, fashion designer, and pimp from Chicago. He is often called a "physical manifestation of a stereotype come to life".
Juan's climb to mainstream celebrity began when he met Snoop Dogg backstage at one of his concerts. They soon became good friends, and Juan became Snoop's "spiritual advisor". He also acts as a "spiritual advisor" to this woman as seen in an episode of the documentary series Rocked with Gina Gershon. To date, Juan has not released any albums of his own, although in 2003, Snoop Dogg stated that he was working on producing Juan's first album. Juan did release a compilation album of 70's and 80's soul classics in 2006 titled, Green is for the Money, Gold is for the Honeys.
ry series Rocked with Gina Gershon. To date, Juan has not released any albums of his own, although in 2003, Snoop Dogg stated that he was working on producing Juan's first album. Juan did release a compilation album of 70's and 80's soul classics in 2006 titled, Green is for the Money, Gold is for the Honeys.

when Max Julien (Goldie)done this he was movie he was bringing to light the game that have been played for a very long time and telling the story of a real street pimp name FRANK D.WARD

This stereotype dismay against women was heavy business i think he brought to light the inside track of how men who call themselves pimps betrayed women with the mind game and physical force Don Juan was a KING at the game.
 
What's Your Opinion On Max Julien and black pimp mentality?

The 'black pimp mentality' can also be attributable to WOMEN.

Some WOMEN can 'pimp' even HARDER than men. They are all about the money too.

YOU'VE shown where Richard Pryor is also in this movie. Richard Pryors MOTHER was a whore (in real life,) and His GrandMother ran the brothel.

Oh yes. The 'flip-side' to that 'clownish' personna YOU'VE mentioned above fits a WOMAN as easily as a man.

Wanna read good book? a true story? if YOU get the chance pick up 'Whoreson: Story of a Ghetto Pimp' by native Detroiter Donald Goines.

YOU'LL see how WOMEN 'pimp' too.

Btw, that is an interesting 'hisstory' lesson regarding the origins of 'pimping' from slavery.

Though on the surface such seems 'plausible,' I seem to recall one of the most 'popular' sayings regarding 'economic's' is that 'pimping is the world's second oldest profession,' which would have taken place Long before slavery.

Maybe pimping was just something the Brutha's fell upon after slavery out of necessity.

Interesting post however.
 
Black pimp mentality is real and live .
look at Snoop Dogg .....girls gone wild and other pimp showcases he done
then there is the real deal of pimpin / chi very own Bishop Don "Magic" Juan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_%22Magic%22_Juan

Don "Magic" Juan (born Donald Campbell in 1950, aka The Chairman of the Board, Archbishop Don 'Magic' Juan, Bishop Magic Juan, and Bishop) is an American hip-hop artist, fashion designer, and pimp from Chicago. He is often called a "physical manifestation of a stereotype come to life".
Juan's climb to mainstream celebrity began when he met Snoop Dogg backstage at one of his concerts. They soon became good friends, and Juan became Snoop's "spiritual advisor". He also acts as a "spiritual advisor" to this woman as seen in an episode of the documentary series Rocked with Gina Gershon. To date, Juan has not released any albums of his own, although in 2003, Snoop Dogg stated that he was working on producing Juan's first album. Juan did release a compilation album of 70's and 80's soul classics in 2006 titled, Green is for the Money, Gold is for the Honeys.
ry series Rocked with Gina Gershon. To date, Juan has not released any albums of his own, although in 2003, Snoop Dogg stated that he was working on producing Juan's first album. Juan did release a compilation album of 70's and 80's soul classics in 2006 titled, Green is for the Money, Gold is for the Honeys.

when Max Julien (Goldie)done this he was movie he was bringing to light the game that have been played for a very long time and telling the story of a real street pimp name FRANK D.WARD

This stereotype dismay against women was heavy business i think he brought to light the inside track of how men who call themselves pimps betrayed women with the mind game and physical force Don Juan was a KING at the game.

I still see him on the west side green machine green fit green pimp cup etc lol!
 
The 'black pimp mentality' can also be attributable to WOMEN.

Some WOMEN can 'pimp' even HARDER than men. They are all about the money too.

YOU'VE shown where Richard Pryor is also in this movie. Richard Pryors MOTHER was a whore (in real life,) and His GrandMother ran the brothel.

Oh yes. The 'flip-side' to that 'clownish' personna YOU'VE mentioned above fits a WOMAN as easily as a man.

Wanna read good book? a true story? if YOU get the chance pick up 'Whoreson: Story of a Ghetto Pimp' by native Detroiter Donald Goines.

YOU'LL see how WOMEN 'pimp' too.

Btw, that is an interesting 'hisstory' lesson regarding the origins of 'pimping' from slavery.

Though on the surface such seems 'plausible,' I seem to recall one of the most 'popular' sayings regarding 'economic's' is that 'pimping is the world's second oldest profession,' which would have taken place Long before slavery.

Maybe pimping was just something the Brutha's fell upon after slavery out of necessity.

Interesting post however.

Oh yes. The 'flip-side' to that 'clownish' personna YOU'VE mentioned above fits a WOMAN as easily as a man.

Wanna read good book? a true story? if YOU get the chance pick up 'Whoreson: Story of a Ghetto Pimp' by native Detroiter Donald Goines.

YOU'LL see how WOMEN 'pimp' too.

Most people who work managing prostitutes are men, but some women work in this capacity as well, though rarely in street prostitution. Women are rarely called pimps, as the word implies male dominance - a woman who manages prostitutes is generally called a mamasan or a madam. (This should not be confused with the title of respect given to adult women in most English-speaking countries.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimp

Donald Goines From 1952 to 1955 he served in the army. During this period he got hooked on heroin. When he returned to Detroit from Japan, he was a heroin addict.

The next 15 years from 1955 Goines spent pimping, robbing, stealing, bootlegging, and running numbers, or doing time. His seven prison sentences totaled 6,5 years. While in jail in the 1960s he first attempted to write Westerns without much success - he loved cowboy movies. A few years later, serving a different sentence at a different prison, he was introduced to the work of Iceberg Slim (Robert Beck). This time Goines wrote his semi-autobiographical novel Whoreson, which appeared in 1972. It was a story about the son of a prostitute who becomes a Detroit ghetto pimp. Also Beck's first book, Pimp: The Story of My Life (1967), was autobiographical. Goines was released in 1970, after which he wrote 16 novels with Holloway House, Iceberg Slim's publisher. Hoping to get rid of surroundings - he was back on smack - he moved with his family to the Los Angeles ghetto of Watts.
http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/goines.htm
 

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