I write this very hesitatingly due to what I know to be true concerning us as a people both past and present. This is a beautiful forum and website once we get a clear understanding of what's going on and the difficulties involved and slowly tackled by the members here.

On this site we have various levels of consciousness in terms of understanding and knowing OUR STORY FROM MANY MANY PERSPECTIVES. This in itself appears to create opposing views due to the various levels of consciousness that we each individually possess.

We search historically, culturally, spiritually, scientifically and socially to obtain a sense of who we are, what we are, what we've done and where we've been on many levels. I consider this a great thing and a tragedy at the same time.

It's a great thing because we seek and crave to restore and know the truth of who we are as a people. That needs to be commended. It becomes a tragedy because it's a testament of how deeply and continuously we as a people have been historically imposed upon for over 2,500 years non stop by others who have not had our interest at heart.

Since the masses of our people are suffering from "historical amnesia" on many levels and have been "DEFINED AND REDEFINED" countless times by those who have imposed themselves upon every branch of our existence, our task has not and will never be an easy one in terms of "RESTORING" the truth of our existence.

We are passionate and spiritual people, and as such, we will argue, disagree and always try to push our understanding as the absolute truth when it may or may not be true according to the level of consciousness we are on.

If we can at least understand this one simple thing about ourselves and our learning process, it will allow us to be more receptive, open minded and understanding of each other as we grow or come into new lights concerning ourselves.

Truth is a bitter pill to swallow, and just like medicine, I have often found that it is the only thing you have to sugar coat before people will accept or take it. Our conditioning has been immense, both consciously and subconsciously. We have been imposed upon and conquered in every area of life with the exception of our spirit...for that is a light which can only be temporarily smothered but never extinguished.

I end this writing by simply stating as our ancestors in the so called "mystery system" stated..."Oh man/woman, what will you do without your illusions"? What am I saying? I am saying that; in as much as many may claim to be searching for the truth, the reality is that very often we are not. We are simply searching for confirmation of what we already believe to be true.

There is a difference, and once you cross over to the truth...living your life and being happy in it is not and will never be as it was. I leave you all in PEACE. (IGNORANCE IS INDEED BLISS !!)

we do know that the large masses of our people here and in the Motherland deserve to live lifes free of neo-colonization, and neo-corporatism

This is a beautiful forum and website once we get a clear understanding of what's going on and the difficulties involved and slowly tackled by the members here.

This is a beautiful community, right now, even if nothing else ever happens.

:heart:

Destee

we do know that the large masses of our people here and in the Motherland deserve to live lifes free of neo-colonization, and neo-corporatism

Ankhur ... Welcome Welcome Welcome ... :wave:

Thanks for joining us and sharing.

Please make yourself at home, because you are!

:heart:

Destee

Ankhur ... Welcome Welcome Welcome ... :wave:

Thanks for joining us and sharing.

Please make yourself at home, because you are!

:heart:

Destee
Thank you

On this site we have various levels of consciousness in terms of understanding and knowing OUR STORY FROM MANY MANY PERSPECTIVES. This in itself appears to create opposing views due to the various levels of consciousness that we each individually possess.

I am saying that; in as much as many may claim to be searching for the truth, the reality is that very often we are not. We are simply searching for confirmation of what we already believe to be true.


Unfortunately, African history is not taught to our children. I remember asking about the reason why to my world history teacher. She told me that Africa was not a significant contributer to the world, and that we were better off learning about Europe and Asia. I could make a list of the things I've been told over the years (ie black people are poor because they don't invest in stocks).

So we are left to learn on our own. There are many schools of thought about our history, and many of them don't agree. For example, there are Christian histories that contrast with the Islamic ones. There is so much information to get through. Also, some of the information we have is tainted. Historic sites in Africa are left in crumbles. Oral histories not recorded or altered intentionally.

It is difficult when one is searching for the truth. Some just want confirmation of what they already believe (confirmation bias), and we are the very victims of this. How many African discoveries have been destroyed or altered because it didn't fit into some racist's Eurocentric thinking? How many Eurocentric ideals were actually falsely created?

Personally, pushing past the anger and keeping an open mind has been helpful. Being here helps those of us that are new become exposed to ideas from those that have much to teach.

Unfortunately, African history is not taught to our children. I remember asking about the reason why to my world history teacher. She told me that Africa was not a significant contributer to the world, and that we were better off learning about Europe and Asia. I could make a list of the things I've been told over the years (ie black people are poor because they don't invest in stocks).

So we are left to learn on our own. There are many schools of thought about our history, and many of them don't agree. For example, there are Christian histories that contrast with the Islamic ones. There is so much information to get through. Also, some of the information we have is tainted. Historic sites in Africa are left in crumbles. Oral histories not recorded or altered intentionally.

It is difficult when one is searching for the truth. Some just want confirmation of what they already believe (confirmation bias), and we are the very victims of this. How many African discoveries have been destroyed or altered because it didn't fit into some racist's Eurocentric thinking? How many Eurocentric ideals were actually falsely created?

Personally, pushing past the anger and keeping an open mind has been helpful. Being here helps those of us that are new become exposed to ideas from those that have much to teach.




CITIZEN,

Reading your post, as highlighted above, which coinsides with Keita's statement, made me think of an earlier matter I had commented on. I'd like to share it with you, if I may:

http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=553703&postcount=25


It is a dialogue between 1poetsought and myself, and below is the parallel to the above highlight:

Walker tells him not to take on other peoples enemies, because enemies are confused adversaries, which is ourselves.

:10500: you can not get angry or frustrated with a blind man because he can not see......

Grace Lee Boggs is the surviving spouse of my late mentor--James Boggs--and everybody would benefit from heeding her past (as well as present) reality check(s)/wake up call(s). when it comes to more than just the present African American President--Barach Obama---

Believe me...

Believe that!

:SuN020:



CITIZEN,

Reading your post, as highlighted above, which coinsides with Keita's statement, made me think of an earlier matter I had commented on. I'd like to share it with you, if I may:

http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=553703&postcount=25


It is a dialogue between 1poetsought and myself, and below is the parallel to the above highlight:

Walker tells him not to take on other peoples enemies, because enemies are confused adversaries, which is ourselves.

Grace Lee Boggs is the surviving spouse of my late mentor--James Boggs--and everybody would benefit from heeding her past (as well as present) reality check(s)/wake up call(s). when it comes to more than just the present African American President--Barach Obama---

Believe me...

Believe that!

:SuN020:




chuck,

Tell me more about Grace Lee Boggs.

I see Walker's points in the open letter.

Also, Grace Lee Boggs, as per wikipedia: Grace Lee Boggs is an activist, writer and speaker whose more than sixty years of political involvement encompass the major U.S. social movements of this century: Labor, Civil rights, Black Power, Asian American, Women's and Environmental Justice.
Born in Providence, R.I. of Chinese immigrant parents in 1915, Grace received her B.A. from Barnard College in 1935 and her Ph.D. in Philosophy from Bryn Mawr College in 1940. In the 1940s and 1950s, she worked with West Indian Marxist historian C.L.R. James (sometimes using the pen name "Ria Stone") and in 1953, she moved to Detroit where she married James Boggs, African-American labor activist, writer and strategist. Working together in grassroots groups and projects, they were partners for over 40 years until Boggs' death in July 1993. Their book, Revolution and Evolution in the Twentieth Century, was published by Monthly Review Press in 1974.
In 1992, with James Boggs, Shea Howell and others, she founded DETROIT SUMMER, a multicultural, intergenerational youth program to rebuild, redefine and respirit Detroit from the ground up, which completed its 14th season in the summer of 2006. Currently, she works with the Detroit City of Hope campaign and the Beloved Communities Initiative and writes for the weekly Michigan Citizen.

Thank You.

I write this very hesitatingly due to what I know to be true concerning us as a people both past and present. This is a beautiful forum and website once we get a clear understanding of what's going on and the difficulties involved and slowly tackled by the members here.

On this site we have various levels of consciousness in terms of understanding and knowing OUR STORY FROM MANY MANY PERSPECTIVES. This in itself appears to create opposing views due to the various levels of consciousness that we each individually possess.

We search historically, culturally, spiritually, scientifically and socially to obtain a sense of who we are, what we are, what we've done and where we've been on many levels. I consider this a great thing and a tragedy at the same time.

It's a great thing because we seek and crave to restore and know the truth of who we are as a people. That needs to be commended. It becomes a tragedy because it's a testament of how deeply and continuously we as a people have been historically imposed upon for over 2,500 years non stop by others who have not had our interest at heart.

Since the masses of our people are suffering from "historical amnesia" on many levels and have been "DEFINED AND REDEFINED" countless times by those who have imposed themselves upon every branch of our existence, our task has not and will never be an easy one in terms of "RESTORING" the truth of our existence.

We are passionate and spiritual people, and as such, we will argue, disagree and always try to push our understanding as the absolute truth when it may or may not be true according to the level of consciousness we are on.

If we can at least understand this one simple thing about ourselves and our learning process, it will allow us to be more receptive, open minded and understanding of each other as we grow or come into new lights concerning ourselves.

Truth is a bitter pill to swallow, and just like medicine, I have often found that it is the only thing you have to sugar coat before people will accept or take it. Our conditioning has been immense, both consciously and subconsciously. We have been imposed upon and conquered in every area of life with the exception of our spirit...for that is a light which can only be temporarily smothered but never extinguished.

I end this writing by simply stating as our ancestors in the so called "mystery system" stated..."Oh man/woman, what will you do without your illusions"? What am I saying? I am saying that; in as much as many may claim to be searching for the truth, the reality is that very often we are not. We are simply searching for confirmation of what we already believe to be true.

There is a difference, and once you cross over to the truth...living your life and being happy in it is not and will never be as it was. I leave you all in PEACE. (IGNORANCE IS INDEED BLISS !!)

I agree with you 100%. It's like politics. You have to speak on it and keep speaking on it until folks get it. They won't get it the first time. And some wont' be listening the first time you speak on it. But, once they get it, you can move on by growing together with them.

I chat on another site and I see the same thing there as well. Not that I'm above anyone but I ask questions which require them to think about what they know and whether it applies to us as a people. They ask questions of me as well. From that interaction, we grow together.

Some times, you have to make people think about what they know which makes them go back and research to come up with a better response next time they're asked that question.

Good point, bruh.

Dapz.