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Destee 09-28-2009, 10:41 PM Peace and Blessings Family,
How do we stop Black Men from killing each other?
What must we do to stop this epidemic of lost life from our homes and communities?
Thanks in advance.
:heart:
Destee
Monetary 09-28-2009, 11:10 PM Peace and Blessings Family,
How do we stop Black Men from killing each other?
What must we do to stop this epidemic of lost life from our homes and communities?
Thanks in advance.
:heart:
Destee
Hey Destee.
You do it by respecting each other first and foremost. By encouraging each other to respect each other first and foremost, we can build a bond of respect, love, and appreciation which will not allow us to harm each other so quickly.
blkbutterfly41 11-19-2009, 07:46 AM Peace and Blessings Family,
How do we stop Black Men from killing each other?
What must we do to stop this epidemic of lost life from our homes and communities?
Thanks in advance.
:heart:
Destee
Hey sister, Destee,
How do we stop black men from killing each other.
First we must give them the proper image and definition of "man". Then we must have an example fo them to go by. An positive example that looks like them. Then they must know their self worth . Then we must teach them how to love themselves deeply. Then and only then can he truly reflect love and give love to another. Then we teach them that their is no greater entity then God by any name. He is the only one that is higher then himself. The black brotherhood is vital. That his only outlet.
If we can implement these things, Our young men won't have no need for any gang. Our young men will grab the father role and will love and honor his woman. Our black men will not kill his own.
Full Speed 11-19-2009, 07:44 PM Peace and Blessings Family,
How do we stop Black Men from killing each other?
What must we do to stop this epidemic of lost life from our homes and communities?
Thanks in advance.
:heart:
Destee
Stop being silent about it when it occurs. We have to express outrage about it and make a clear demonstration that it is unacceptable and will not be tolorated. The message has to reverberate down to street level.
Community outrage supported/backed up with positive programs designed to encourage acceptance of responsibility and a sense of unity within the community. ( That sounded like a Jessie Jackson rhyme)
As long as we sit silent as a community and act as though we only care about a Black life when it is taken by a White police officer, the message that EVERY Black life is important and ANYONE who takes it is acting AGAINST the collective community will never be heard.
These young men do no realize they are acting AGAINST the COLLECTIVE community when they choose to take the life of one of our own. Our community silence does nothing to resolve that ignorance.
Peace and Blessings Family,
How do we stop Black Men from killing each other?
What must we do to stop this epidemic of lost life from our homes and communities?
Thanks in advance.
:heart:
Destee
There are only two ways. Find a deterrent or Find the REASON they are killing each other and eliminate it.
Deterrents can come in two forms.
1) A positive outlet for their ambition, aggression and their longing to be a part of something. Or...
2) A negative consequence that is so severe that it prevents them from doing what they do.
The Reason they are doing it is lack of other constructive ways to spend their time. This is (at the risk of sounding like a broken record) a result of LACK OF MONEY/RESOURCES.
If basketball/football camps, book clubs, cultural stimulation, science fairs, artistic instruction were all made available in our communities without it straining the parent financially...kids killing kids would virtually disappear. The only ones left would be those born into a life of crime by their fathers, uncles, or cousins always being in the drug life. The ironic thing is...even those older males in the drug life will steer kids away from that life IF they knew something else to steer them TOWARDS.
And we all know the Drug trade responsible for about half of the deaths in the hood (either directly or indirectly) is a result of a desire for wealth but an ignorance as to how to build it LEGALLY.
Peace and Love
truetothecause 11-22-2009, 01:03 PM Peace and Blessings Family,
How do we stop Black Men from killing each other?
What must we do to stop this epidemic of lost life from our homes and communities?
Thanks in advance.
:heart:
Destee
Greetings!
NOTHING......
until THEY WANT to stop.
THEN the suggestions offered can be beneficial.
Step One.....ADMIT THAT IT IS A PROBLEM...those who are DO~ing it
M.E.
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Ankhur 11-22-2009, 02:57 PM Greetings!
NOTHING......
until THEY WANT to stop.
THEN the suggestions offered can be beneficial.
Step One.....ADMIT THAT IT IS A PROBLEM...those who are DO~ing it
M.E.
:hearts2:
there is alot that can be done but it cannot be done by those who have a subconcious hatred of the Black male.
There is no foolishness among the youth of the NOI, or the youth of the various Kemetic Shrines either, and let's be clear this is a new phenomnon, not indicative of our culture or our folk ways of adaptation, since this fratricide was not going on during the time of segregation.
This occured strategicaly during the 80s with the October Surprise, Oliver North, CIA drug importation of mega tons of pure grade cocaine into the nation, so much that it could nor be sold at a profit, but had to be transfered into freebase which was usiualy a high for the rich.
the resulting product became known as crack.
According to investigations by Maxine Waters and community activist Jim Brown, the beef betweeen the Crips and Bloods which was in the process of subsidibng, by virtue of the intervention of Minister Farakhan, at youth councils and meetings, was escalated and fueled , by LAPD.
High tech weaponry flooded the West coast communities along with the Bronfman's family (real owners of Death Row)presenting gangsta rap to the airwaves, while strategicaly keeping out concious rap.
There is a great deal that can be done, and is being done but it takes a heart free of bitterness,
clarity, focus, and imagination creativity and determination
truetothecause 11-22-2009, 03:00 PM there is alot that can be done but it cannot be done by those who have a subconcious hatred of the Black male.
I wonder who they would be:?:
and IF you THINK that is me......then I invite you to come where I am and ask the Brothers I work with/for!
M.E.
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truetothecause 11-22-2009, 03:04 PM there is alot that can be done but it cannot be done by those who have a subconcious hatred of the Black male.
There is no foolishness among the youth of the NOI, or the youth of the various Kemetic Shrines either, and let's be clear this is a new phenomnon, not indicative of our culture or our folk ways of adaptation, since this fratricide was not going on during the time of segregation.
This occured strategicaly during the 80s with the October Surprise, Oliver North, CIA drug importation of mega tons of pure grade cocaine into the nation, so much that it could nor be sold at a profit, but had to be transfered into freebase which was usiualy a high for the rich.
the resulting product became known as crack.
According to investigations by Maxine Waters and community activist Jim Brown, the beef betweeen the Crips and Bloods which was in the process of subsidibng, by virtue of the intervention of Minister Farakhan, at youth councils and meetings, was escalated and fueled , by LAPD.
High tech weaponry flooded the West coast communities along with the Bronfman's family (real owners of Death Row)presenting gangsta rap to the airwaves, while strategicaly keeping out concious rap.
There is a great deal that can be done, and is being done but it takes a heart free of bitterness,
clarity, focus, and imagination creativity and determination
Ankhur....WHY are you here IF you are doing so well where you are:?:
How about you post MORE about what you have done and are doing that is working instead of TELLING others what's "wrong" with them...
this ish is not rocket science for a Great One such as yourself
Also....you seem to be so sure that myself and others are lacking in those areas AS IF you are ALL FLIPPING KNOWING....Why:?:
Please STOP with the verbal beat-downs so we can continue to BUILD on our Strengths!
M.E.
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Ankhur 11-22-2009, 03:07 PM Ankhur....WHY are you here IF you are doing so well where you are:?:
How about you post MORE about what you have done and are doing that is working instead of TELLING others what's "wrong" with them...
this ish is not rocket science for a Great One such as yourself
Also....you seem to be so sure that myself and others are lacking in those areas AS IF you are ALL FLIPPING KNOWING....Why:?:
Please STOP with the verbal beat-downs so we can continue to BUILD on our Strengths!
M.E.
:hearts2:
if every thing is a personal issue with you and an ego thing rrather then a concern for the greater good of the community then I pity you
truetothecause 11-22-2009, 03:29 PM if every thing is a personal issue with you and an ego thing rrather then a concern for the greater good of the community then I pity you
:nono: NO "pity parties" allowed up in this camp!
besides no worries..things only become "personal" for me...when someone calls my name or mixes me up in their ish or dumps their ish at my feet...TELLING me about me...as opposed to asking questions
when they START with ASSUMPTIONS about me...putting those ASSUMPTIONS out AS IF it is "truth"...then...then it becomes "personal".
M.E.
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Josef 11-22-2009, 05:19 PM Peace and Blessings Family,
How do we stop Black Men from killing each other?
What must we do to stop this epidemic of lost life from our homes and communities?
Thanks in advance.
:heart:
Destee
the mentality of hate must die inside of us all..
put life back on top, it must be taught as something to cherish, all life even down to an ant..
increase the understanding of family and bloodline in your area
start rumors of truces,
and decrease material wealth starting in your household
we have adopted a free to be me, and do whatever attitude, when we are not at liberty to have such freedoms, nor should we at this time..
in your area, start and partner with groups of all ages to sit and discuss, not the problem alone, but how it grew to be where it is today..and who started it, and who will it take to end it
you will need to coordinate with youth leaders, anti gang activist, parents students, and ultimatley the leaders, and dealers, who are terrorist in your area.
you must have diologue with them, you will not stomp out drug use as long as the need/want remains..at least not as of yet, we are still healing so lets not kid ourselves with pipe dreams of zero tolerance thinking, huh?
you may need them soon, either for funding, or military alliances, so again diologue, not lenthy prison sentences.
the only need to send them away should be used for time for the junkie to get cleaned up, take away the demand, you then cripple the supplier, who then is only an opportunist, who then no longer needs territory, believe me, they will move on..businesses that are stagnant in profit rarely stay around.. there is a supplier, and they need consumers( the addict) to move product.
with the fiend no longer interested, and us on patrol, we increase comfort with the people living in our areas.
you must stomp out the negative music, of chants of death, and destruction that corrupts our minds..
Ankhur 11-22-2009, 08:15 PM the mentality of hate must die inside of us all..
put life back on top, it must be taught as something to cherish, all life even down to an ant..
increase the understanding of family and bloodline in your area
start rumors of truces,
and decrease material wealth starting in your household
we have adopted a free to be me, and do whatever attitude, when we are not at liberty to have such freedoms, nor should we at this time..
in your area, start and partner with groups of all ages to sit and discuss, not the problem alone, but how it grew to be where it is today..and who started it, and who will it take to end it
you will need to coordinate with youth leaders, anti gang activist, parents students, and ultimatley the leaders, and dealers, who are terrorist in your area.
you must have diologue with them, you will not stomp out drug use as long as the need/want remains..at least not as of yet, we are still healing so lets not kid ourselves with pipe dreams of zero tolerance thinking, huh?
you may need them soon, either for funding, or military alliances, so again diologue, not lenthy prison sentences.
the only need to send them away should be used for time for the junkie to get cleaned up, take away the demand, you then cripple the supplier, who then is only an opportunist, who then no longer needs territory, believe me, they will move on..businesses that are stagnant in profit rarely stay around.. there is a supplier, and they need consumers( the addict) to move product.
with the fiend no longer interested, and us on patrol, we increase comfort with the people living in our areas.
you must stomp out the negative music, of chants of death, and destruction that corrupts our minds..
Well said , and the list is accurate, well thought out and not hard to apply!!
jamesfrmphilly 11-22-2009, 11:47 PM Peace and Blessings Family,
How do we stop Black Men from killing each other?
What must we do to stop this epidemic of lost life from our homes and communities?
Thanks in advance.
:heart:
Destee
change the focus of anger from self to the system of global white supremacy
Ankhur 11-23-2009, 09:26 AM change the focus of anger from self to the system of global white supremacy
To be honest, that is why the killing and the music to promote the killing and the free access to guns and ammo, to do the killing all started in the first place,
strategicaly after the demise of the Black movement
Nashop4 11-23-2009, 12:38 PM First, there is not a single answer to that question, but one of the main solutions would have to be self accountability. For whatever strange reason, we, black men, like to justify our negative behavior; we blame our actions and behaviors on our fathers not being in our lives during childhood, growing up in a "rough" environment, and a lack of love, etc..etc...etc....Secondly, we have to simplify some situations that could lead to questionable situations. For instance, right is right, and wrong is wrong. If we have to think about whether or not something is right or not, then maybe we do not need to do it. So, take responsibility for our ACTIONS, and be preventive as much as possible so that we are not placed in tough predicaments.
Ankhur 11-23-2009, 04:38 PM First, there is not a single answer to that question, but one of the main solutions would have to be self accountability. For whatever strange reason, we, black men, like to justify our negative behavior; we blame our actions and behaviors on our fathers not being in our lives during childhood, growing up in a "rough" environment, and a lack of love, etc..etc...etc....Secondly, we have to simplify some situations that could lead to questionable situations. For instance, right is right, and wrong is wrong. If we have to think about whether or not something is right or not, then maybe we do not need to do it. So, take responsibility for our ACTIONS, and be preventive as much as possible so that we are not placed in tough predicaments.
Excellent response but all humanity regadless of culture and particularly the minds of impressionable youth function on what is known as the "herd mind" and that is why so many Black folks work 14 hours per day to get thier children into private school, not just for the education but for the right peer pressure as well.
Understanding psychology most folks regadless of race are suportives, or dynamic supportives and few are dynamic assertives or dynamic agressives that think outside the box.
the novel "Lord of the Flies" by William Golding illustrates how the herd mind operatesand how crucial peer pressure is regarding adolescent behavior.
jamesfrmphilly 11-23-2009, 06:08 PM Excellent response but all humanity regadless of culture and particularly the minds of impressionable youth function on what is known as the "herd mind" and that is why so many Black folks work 14 hours per day to get thier children into private school, not just for the education but for the right peer pressure as well. Understanding psychology most folks regadless of race are suportives, or dynamic supportives and few are dynamic assertives or dynamic agressives that think outside the box.
the novel "Lord of the Flies" by William Golding illustrates how the herd mind operatesand how crucial peer pressure is regarding adolescent behavior.
control the hip hop industry and you will control the young....
RAPTOR 11-23-2009, 06:31 PM control the hip hop industry and you will control the young....
You would think that by now, a hand full of successful rappers would be putting their experience
of the business and their resources together to create, not only their own label (and own their masters),
but also set up distribution centers.
Ankhur 11-23-2009, 07:08 PM You would think that by now, a hand full of successful rappers would be putting their experience
of the business and their resources together to create, not only their own label (and own their masters),
but also set up distribution centers.
And definatey we need radio stations and cable TV as well as at least one of those BS HDTV 11-2, 13-3 stations,
so that Da Ghetto Tymz, and Immortal Technique and his crew can have a free platform nationwide
jamesfrmphilly 11-23-2009, 07:56 PM You would think that by now, a hand full of successful rappers would be putting their experience
of the business and their resources together to create, not only their own label (and own their masters),
but also set up distribution centers.
prince been done that.
with the net you can distribute via download.
this can be done. just need to get to doin.
all you need is a website and some word of mouth.
oh, and a rapper.
jamesfrmphilly 11-24-2009, 12:43 PM seems like bill cosby has the same idea : http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=613641&postcount=1
Ankhur 11-24-2009, 04:54 PM seems like bill cosby has the same idea : http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=613641&postcount=1
hopefully he and other millionaires can buy up some stations
radio and TV
to play stuff like this
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