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The journey continues....

Even though I've already done so on many different threads, I can give more examples of where the opening of the mind to the astral life and dream world can lead. Of course it was the same opening of the mind that led me to the course I am taking right now in spiritual technology. Actually, it would be impossible to take such a course without that ability because I am being trained in my dreamscape.

From time to time I also think to myself, this could all be my own mind playing tricks with me. But then the information I get is confirmed. I was going home, and near some bushes I saw something twinkling in the sunlight, “something told me” to go look at it. It looked to me like a polished white rock, I was told to take it home, clean it off in water and seasalt and attach it to my crystal antenna. The whole time I was thinking this was just a normal rock that anyone can get in a garden- but it wouldn't hurt to try.

That night I went to sleep as I usually do with the crystal antenna near the bed and I had perhaps some of the most vivid and powerful astrals I have ever had. I would say it was too vivid because I believed I was dead. I remembered going to a restaurant in what appeared to be Paris, the people were passing through me as if I was a ghost. I saw a White couple sitting at a table wearing bath robes so I assumed they were either dead or asleep like I was. They were sitting at the table sniffing the food, because of our condition were were unable to touch or taste anything. I tried to speak to them, the Wife was very racist realizing that I was Black she refused to speak.

Each time I clapped my hands I ended up in a different place. Eventually I found myself in a silver metallic warehouse and I saw clones of everyone I knew in school walking around. A White Man with a short haircut and a goatee came up to me, threw his arm around my shoulder and started giving me a tour of the place. He knew I was astralling. There was another White Man there standing next to us that looked like his bodyguard. I had a feeling I would not be allowed to leave from this place.

He sat me in front of a television and started showing me the Earth prior to the year 2001, he said they saved the earth from being destroyed and because of that they were able to negotiate certain deals with the leaders of the Earth. At this point I knew who these people were and that this was not the place I needed to be. I clapped my hands but nothing happened. Then something within me told me that I had the ability to control machines and that the bodyguard- the White Man standing over me was a Robot. I took control of his mind, and he followed my commands and helped me escape this metal warehouse. I was able to return back to my body safely.

Obviously that was an astral. Not in the real world. But after coming out of it, I knew that not only was it very real but that it was not over. That day the numbers 444 appeared about 8 times. It seemed more bizarre than normal. The best one was when my computer started scanning files for viruses, it stopped abruptly at 444. I laughed and a chill went down my spine as well. Because I knew something was trying to send me a message- but what, and from whom?

Also that same day, I was thinking about ordering ink for my printer from a store online I always order from. I was only thinking about it, but decided I had enough ink and I could order at another time. So why did this store email me that same day saying “Thank you for your order”? I doubled checked to make sure I didn't order anything and I didn't. I even emailed the company asking them to check it out. No one knew how I got that email, and I even forwarded it back to them and they were surprised because no one sent it out. So they say.

Somewhere between the 444s and the mysterious email, a less tolerant person would've lost their mind by now. But I then recalled the voice in my astral, perhaps the voice of one of my Spirit guides or even an Ancestor telling me that I had the ability to speak to machines.
Whatever it was, eventually it wore off by the next day.

I felt as though the rock I found had something to do with my experiences. I went to sleep one night and just before bed I said to myself, “I wonder what kind of rock this is?” The whole night I kept hearing two words, aloof and agate. When I woke up I didn't understand why I had those two words basically written into my brain. But when I looked up the rock based on how it looked I was surprised that it was white agate. I'm not sure why I heard the word aloof along with it, unless I was being told I already knew what it was.
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It is said white agate in particular helps for connecting with spirits. But it seems to have a stranger effect when placed on my crystal antenna. The other night I was in Tokyo. I saw it as clear as day, I knew it was Tokyo because I was following behind some Tourists that said it was. Again- I seemed to be a ghost, which is something I've never experienced in an astral the appearance of being invisible. In another experience I was next to a Man that was suffering from shapeshifting he couldn't control it and kept turning into different people. It was a very unusual place, like an in between world. He told me I needed to wake up and find out something that could help him. When I left he was turning into a big green blob like he was about to explode. It reminded of something Dark Warrior Ty said, that the spirits need us and are learning from us too.

On yet another night, a very interesting dream took place, I was having a conversation with a Black Woman in some type of store, and then she started whispering to me that she was one of the Ancients, but she was speaking to me and whispering as if someone would be listening and she didn't want them to hear her. She said "when you are a good magician, when you die people can do what you can do by speaking your name, and this is why people speak the name of Jesus but he is not real, it is me." When I sat next to this Woman she was very youthful, but as she spoke, she turned into an Elder. She said all of Africa knew about her, and she formed a priesthood of Women that later became known as the Sibils, yet she said another name that I can't recall. She said the Greeks told many stories about her, I haven't looked up any of this information yet. But the most important thing she wanted me to know was that her descendants and those descendants of her priesthood had the power to curse the womb of any Woman. She claimed this was how these Women ruled the known world and were feared. She seemed very angry that we allowed our enemies to have so many children when some Women still have this power? She had nothing to say about the Men, but I suspect it was important for this message in particular to be heard and not that the African Men had no power.

I've said before that a time would come when I would start experiencing “conscious death” and it seems like this journey into the after-life has begun. There are some unsavory characters I am hoping to avoid however.

I was told also that I am being hailed in the spirit realm by The Ptah Priesthood, which are Ancestors that have learn the mysteries of Ptah, they are artists, inventors and into spiritual magic.

All I can say is that this is really amazing.....and your dreams kind of remind me of the ones I have.....so vivd, and strange at the same time...kinda of makes me think someone's trying to send me a message sometimes....

I do have one question what is your take on Deja-vu?
One time I had it so many times in one day that I thought I was going crazy, and actually started crying. weird huh?

They kept saying 444 huh Meta, that is very interesting, it looks like I will be purchasing some white agate soon if you get my drift.

I also would like to say the white people in your dream could easily be represented by the stone you recently added in your antennae but who knows.

I actually lost the power of my dreams due to telepathic interference it looks like the antennae is my only hope now.

I also thought long and hard and you being invisible could be a metaphor for how whites are invisible and can do anything without being bothered while us black folks on the other hand stick out like a Giraffe in the middle of times square. The shape shifter in Tokyo could stand for Asians since they have no sense of self, they do not know if they want to be African or European, there kinda stuck in the middle.

The whole robot part is all you, I have no clue what that could mean, maybe whites are easily controlled and all we have to do is find there control panels. This ties with the whole Egypt and us creating them as our personal guards against our enemies, we simply lost control over them.

Sistah Siren- not weird at all! I know some people didn't catch on that the movie "DejaVu" was actually a scientific explanation for what DejaVu is, one that was studied, experimented on and confirmed. It comes from the folding space theory. Reality folds, ripples and buckles all the time on it's own, this is why it's "texture" is best described as like a very soft fabric, ie- the fabric of space. I experience a higher dimension of DejaVu that most people do not become aware of until someone mentions it and I call it an echo, it's the same name given to the phenomenon in the movie "The Minority Report" it happens when a we see the same reality twice, one right after the other, but it may happen in a slightly different way. It was also described in the Matrix as DejaVu because Neo saw the black cat twice.

They called it a glitch in the Matrix. Well, we are the ones that are the glitches, we are the anomalies in the Matrix and we produce this phenomenon with our minds. It is not DejaVu happening to us, it is us- producing DejaVu. I produce glitches in the Matrix every single day, so much so- I've become used to it. A common echo I produce is if I think of a word, most likely someone will show up and use that same word in a sentence, it wouldn't matter how unique the word is. Now that, would make someone lose their marbles.

Another glitch that aggravates me may be based on some weird probability - if a driver appears behind me suddenly and gains my attention the driver will most likely travel behind me for no more than 3 miles no matter where I go and how many turns I make. It will seem normal to you until it happens far too often to be normal.

Once I had someone driving with me for over 30 minutes and I really thought he was following me. Unfortunately what this also means is that some people are hardwired to this system and some are not. Very spiritual people and conscious people have always been the glitches in the system. Being conscious really means you've become more aware of your multi-dimensional reality. DejaVu is also the melting point between those realities. When we gain a connection with that part of us that is say 15 minutes in the future, what it communicates back to us are imagines of the future, when we experience the reality ourselves it will feel like DejaVu. I've done my own experiment concerning this.

I drove until I was totally lost. I stopped in an open field, meditated- and opened my mind up to what I believed is that multi-dimensional place. And then I tried to find my way back. I remember coming to a fork, I had a choice between left or right. Something told me to go left. The choice I made took me straight back to where I needed to be. I remember when I came to the fork, I had a feeling I had been there before, even though I didn't because I was in a Town I have never been. The feeling was DejaVu, I could suggest that in another reality or probable future I did make a right and found it hard to make it home. There are some days when we are more in touch with our multi-dimensional selves, some days when we shut them down all together.

Astral projection does give some insight into how and why our parallel selves exist. A single match can light an infinite number of candles. So long as fire can feed it will exist. A simple spark of fire arrives from the same place our souls arrive. Each candle is a different frequency of time. The flame on the original match lit each candle one after the other. Thus each were born at different intervals in time. But they are all the same flame, existing on different candles simultaneously.
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Astral projection is also the experience of our different selves in different realities and probable realities. We may feel as if, this is the one and only me, and that is true. Yet there are several one and only Mes running around.

Bro. 44Reasons - you can recover anything that you've had previously. There are some people I know that cause telepathic interference all the time, remotely. I think Telepaths are the most psychically attacked people than anyone else. If you watched that movie "Push" you'd see why. Ground yourself with some serious protection and see if it all comes back.

It make s sense.....I have had the same thing happen to me. One time I swear a car followed me from Delaware all the way till Maryland imitating every move I was making until I came to my exit. I was freaked, and the words thing It happens to me often always. Also, Im going to try and explain this in the non weirdest (lol i know thats not a word but hey) I can. Okay now say there are alternate realities of our lives almost like a computer runs the same program with different outcomes. For example in some we may cross the street, and live, and in another we may cross the street and die, could trigger deja vu, or I think its said we become less likely....or something like that? oh well....And after I read ur post I had the weirdest dream......

Sistah Siren- it seems like most of my posts spark a "weird dream" or two every now and then.

We live in a very interesting verse, we've all by now experienced a near fate of almost making a very terrible choice. The best way to look it is that we are experiencing something that has already happened. It's like reading a novel. You experience the story by reading it, but that story has already been written, it has already happened. Each story is a verse, and we all have one, we are all writers in this story- so we call this the "Uni"-verse, where all our stories are fused together in a collaboration of collective experience.

Keep in mind that each self, in each different reality or parallel world is only a character. It is only as real as the consciousness that dwells within it. In one reality you might cross the street and live, in another reality you might cross the street and die- the reality you experience will depend on the story you wish to tell about how you've evolved. Either way, we choose what we want to experience either consciously or unconsciously.

There was a story I wrote a while back about a Man who was down on his luck- everything was going bad for him. He was in a bar drinking his sorrows away, and ranting on about his terrible life to a stranger. He told the stranger, I would never commit suicide, but I would pay someone to kill me in 7 days- IF I had the money he joked. What he didn't know was that the Man he was speaking too was a professional Assassin. The Assassin agreed to "take him out" in 7 days for free after listening to this Man's whimpers for over 2 hours.

What we must realize is that reality changes based upon the "concrete choices" we make. "Concrete" meaning this is a choice we are definitely going through with based upon a pattern. These choices can also transport us into different parallel realities. We can tell by how instantly everything changes.

By the time this Man made the agreement with the Assassin and he walked out of the bar, he was in a different field of consciousness. His life change instantly. The company he owned that he assumed was going under only moments before made a turn for the better because a billion dollar empire request to purchase it for triple what it was worth. By the time this Man made it home, he went from being near homeless to being a multi-billionaire.

That was day one.

By day two the family and Wife that had once before rejected him, embraced him- knowing of course that they would be compensated for their loyalty. He didn't care about all of that, he wanted the love even if he had to pay for it. For the next couple of days he would spend him life celebrating and rejoicing about the miracle of life.

Day five, he remembers his contract with the Assassin. Not having anyway to reach him, he is sure the Assassin will follow through with his word as planned. Day Six-He decides to hire Men to protect him.

Day Seven. Those Men hired to protect him are taken out like flies. Before killing the Man, the Assassin tells him that he is also a silent Partner for the billion dollar company that purchased his business from him.

It may be true that if we have ever wished for death, or wished to end this dream reality we are having, we have also made a contract with an Assassin. That same Assassin also holds the keys to our success as well, it is only the higher consciousness that listens to all of our choices.

Malcolm Forbes said - "Retirement kills more people than hard work ever did."
It's true that many people die within the first 2-3 years of retirement. What is also interesting is that people that have jobs they love and take pleasure in, live longer. That's common sense of course. But it's interesting that we are pushed in our youth for get jobs that earn lots of money instead of jobs that we take pleasure in. I know Doctors that would rather play in a band than do open heart surgery for thousands of dollars, but they would never quit because of what their colleges/Families would think of them.

Retirement is also the retiring of our minds from our highest ideals and thoughts. We allow reality to change us instead of changing reality. A Black Woman should still be able to think like a Goddess stuck in the welfare office with 2 needy children pulling at her. This is only a story. There are several worlds learning from all of us and this also why these realities are put into place.

Many of us are in that bar right now, complaining to an Assassin without realizing it. No one dies suddenly, it's all part of the story. It's part of the verse we invent and construe with our minds. We know the future because we are creating it right now. But we also have the option of changing that future by creating concrete choices.

If you want to change your reality very fast. Tell a secret to a stranger.

As I am learning and remembering more about the after-life, it is actually not at all different from this life. One serious point however is that there are many spirits that have a strong disgust for those who live inside the flesh, which might explain so-called negative spirits and horror movies.

I would expect that many people on earth now when they die in time will also becomes spirits that hate the flesh, because of the pain and burden one might recall from being inside of it.

We often speak of astral traveling as a way to "escape" this current reality and enter into dimensions of the non familiar. Some refer to them as realms of transcendence. But what is occurring with me over and over is a type of astral projection that offers insight into where death leads us.

From time to time I find myself in a dark zone just at the moment I am trying to re-enter my body after a heavy travel. Sometimes there is some difficulty. And I often wonder, what happens if I can't make it back? Obviously I die right? Or I can no longer animate my body so I appear be in an a coma. In such a state the body can trigger a cardiac arrest, which is a shut down procedure.

What is important for any astraler to note is that place we are in, is also the place we are going to when we cross over and die. The astral life leads into the after life. It does seem obvious right? Nothing that we shouldn't have noticed before, yet it is something we often do not spend allot of time thinking about.

There is a common belief that where we go after we die is either a punishment or reward for the life we have lived. Well- that should be true for sleep period. Also known as the little death. Where we go when we sleep is also a punishment or reward for the life we are living, and that is only based on our pattern of thoughts.

And while many may not believe in an "after-life" perse, here is a medical fact that is not well known. Without restful REM sleep the brain will lose track of time, memory and can produce stressful emotions leading up to anger and sometimes even physical pain. What this means is that the brain will literally throw a temper tantrum if the consciousness that uses the brain is not allowed the journey into the dream world- which is actually what REM sleep signifies. Now why is that? Why is REM sleep so important even to the physical body itself? Why are conjugal visits important to a Prisoner?

This is not a life that the soul is used too. We are experiencing this life for whatever reason, but this is not nor has it ever been the totality of our existence. Thus the reason why we must journey during sleep is to engage ourselves again with worlds that are more familiar to our souls. Many of us never remember our dreams because the memory of our travels are not as important as the experiences themselves. Just the same, no one remembers every single sexual experience.

The astral life takes normal dreaming to a level that is less understood by most, even astralers themselves. However it is best understood by taking our own lives into account, the lives we live right now. If there is a Woman out there that has ever ran up on her Man's job to surprise him, certainly you might remember that look on his face. Even if he wasn't doing anything wrong, there had to be a look on his face. Because two worlds have merged. A Man is often different on the job than he is at home or with his Woman. And sometimes Men need time to adjust and prepare for when the two characters of his being are forced to meet.

Some Women are the same way, but most Women can handle themselves on the job even when taken by surprised- unless of course she has a White boss and the neighborhood shows up, now that's a different story entirely.

The best place for a loved one to really get his Woman by surprised is at a place where she wines down, like with her Girlfriends or family. Surprise her when she's playing the character of the innocent daugther with her Mother and Father, and there you will see a struggle to merge those two characters together. That loving but sexy female you love so much, and that innocent daugther her Parents groomed and disciplined.

What this proves is that we play many characters in our lives. We are spiritual shapeshifters, becoming whatever is necessary to provide our needs and the needs of others.

The astral life is like that also, the greater extent of it may be that each world we experience is projected by a different mind and character. In the movie "The 5 people You meet in Heaven" we are given a very classic explanation for what happens when a person dies, as it is said we can experience different heavens as worlds that are created by the minds of our loved ones and friends.

When I dreamt of my Grandmother after her passing, I saw her in a large park where people from all over the world were coming to eat from her table. She seemed to be having a wonderful time baking and cooking for everyone. That was her dream in life and it became her heaven in death.

Heaven as well as hell are only illusions we use to build the outer worlds that we wish or expect to experience. It is that way here, as well as there. This will never change. But to become consciousness of it, we begin to understand it.

The journey into the astral realms also takes us into different heavens, also illusions created by different minds. Sometimes those minds are our own, sometimes those minds are not in this dimension at all. Sometimes we experience an infinity of irrational abstractions that are designed to force us "not to think" and instead to feel.

I've been asked not to refer to those who on the other side as "the dead" - because they are very much still alive, if they were not- we would not be- as we are all still daisy chained in consciousness to co-creators that paved the way for us. They are the insiders IE inside us, as we the outsiders- outside of ourselves.

meta wat up, i've been watching and reading these forums for a while and decided to join and the reason i wanted to is to say that everytime i have a question the next day i check the forums and you answer it for me. The one you put up about scrying for instance i was just thinking about that the day before you posted as well as a whole bunch of other **** you put. The next day your new post answers exact questions i asked myself the day before...

YesusblacksRGod I've heard that allot on Destee! I'm not sure why that is, my only explanation is that spiritual people and deep thinkers on this site or on the internet are always visiting and tapping into the same frequencies. Obviously I spend allot of time tapping into those places myself.

I'm really really enjoying the vast among of information I've been getting these days in my dreamscape and astral classes. Allot of us here are well aware that we are doing allot of work when asleep. I'm only here to confirm for you that, one- you are not alone. And two, you are not crazy.

You are not alone because this amazing journey is teaching us that while we can consider the earth to be a prison for our bodies, the mind can travel with the soul as it's guide. That journey reminds us that we are ever connected to a wide range of possibilities.

The real crazy ones are those that believe seriously in an absolute reality, one that is defined and explained by senses that are themselves native to the material world. There are no absolutes here. Everything is everything. Even death.

The event of death relates to the event of birth. Unknown to us, the Human body was designed to be immortal. Cloning is a reality. And it is cloning, and the fact that cloning is possible that would alert us to the fact that the Human body is immortal.

At a different place in Man's history, with our science we knew that even with a small piece of flesh, hair, an eyelash- a new body could be "grafted" from that. Our ancients did it, but this was not something that was widely known. All we know is that they kept body parts in jars, because we don't speak to our ancients anymore, we try to understand them through the education of our captors.

Immortality and cloning as we should expect was only for a royal elite. We shouldn't have to ask ourselves why that was if we are intelligent people.
When a person was preparing to die it was a simple matter of cloning a new body for them from a piece of flesh. That was the easy part. The 2nd part would be the complete transfer of all the necessary spiritual elements from the old body into the new. There was much more to the opening of the mouth ritual than most think.

And while Europeans have mastered cloning is this same fashion, the 2nd part they have not mastered. That- they would have to leave up to someone well versed in such arts, because science has very little to do with it. And they cannot speak with any Pastor or Priest from any church, because if our ancients had a say in that, they might sugguest- if you cannot raise the dead you are no Pastor or Priest, you're just as waste of time.

We are dealing with real power here and not the ability to stand on a soap box. We do not come from a people that feared death, not as so many of us do now. Because we understood as babies a basic truth that evades some of today's wisest elders. It is our Ren, the name that is used to call us that brings us here and also sends us away. There is no death, it is just a call and a response.

When we know the true name of the traveling soul, in whatever world they are, we can call them- even back into the physical. We all have a true name, which is the name we used to define ourselves from the conception of our consciousness. So when the High Priest wishes to raise the dead, he would not call a Man or Woman by that earthly name, because that is only the character they were playing. You would not call Denzel Washington "Malcolm X" if you saw him in the street.

Our spiritual names are hidden from us, most of us perhaps are lucky enough to have had readings done that reveal such names, yet they must be kept secret. In ancient times a Shaman or high Magician would perform a ritual to either appoint a spiritual name or find out the spiritual name of an individual. In doing so he or she would travel into the astral realm by invoking a trance state and ask the Ancestors to guide them to the true name of that person.

We can all rest assured that cloning will indeed get out of hand. That is a promise. Because as a culture we are not as concerned about such things and are too easily distracted by other things- meanwhile back at the lab-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1172587/Calls-jail-doctor-cloned-dead-girl-Cadys-blood.html

Cloning may already be out of hand. What is key however is there are matters involving the spirit realm that still has not been understood by mainstream science. These Dr. Frankensteins just expect ghosts to show up and run their machines. It will happen for now because there are so many unforgiven souls begging to be born and so few people willing to provide bodies for them to fill.

But as our awareness grows, and as many of us return to our previous state of true spiritual power, it will not be as simple as that. Many of us are learning how connected the spirit world is with our dream and astral life, there are also so many Ancestors betting on the day when enough of us wake up and start cutting off negative forces that are operated from the spirit world as well.


Tip: A name has no power unless you claim it.

The Realms of Spirit
The Lower Astral Planes are described as a dark, dismal world reminiscent of the Christian purgatory or hell. After dying, some people, because of the low vibration of their thoughts, are pulled toward and trapped near the physical plane in a state of confusion. There being no sense of time nor space in the worlds of spirit, they might reside here for years or even centuries of Earth time, totally bewildered, not even aware that they have died.

The Middle Astral Planes are pleasant realms where 60-70 percent of us wake up to be rehabilitated after our earthly education in “the school of hard knocks.”

The Higher Astral Planes are wonderful realms called Heaven by Christians, or the Summerland by spiritualists. About ten percent of the human population arrive at this level after “death”.

The Mental-Causal Planes are a realm of divine inspiration, free of earthly desires and conflict. The beings in these dimensions inspire many of the artistic and technical breakthroughs on Earth by sending silent messages to its inhabitants.

The astral planes are much like Earth, though more mental, less physical. In the spirit worlds thoughts create reality, so as thousands of people leave Earth and enter the astral planes, the worlds in those subtler planes take on an Earth-like appearance. Many messages we receive from “the other side” describe concert halls, museums, hospitals, schools and homes much like those on Earth, all set amongst flower-strewn meadows, mountains, and rivers that are like the landscapes on Earth, but more magnificent.

While the ultimate destiny of every soul lies in the “higher” or subtler planes in and beyond the celestial frequencies, a typical lifetime on Earth as a non-spiritual or moderately spiritual person drags our soul down to low frequencies. After physical death, our soul, being somewhat “acclimatized” to the Earth plane, would feel out of place in the higher realms, so the astral planes provide a buffer zone between a dense Earth plane rife with deception, fear and violence, and the higher, subtle realms of pure love, Light and wisdom. The astral planes provide very pleasant surroundings for resting before moving on. However, not everyone moves on right away. Some departed souls enjoy the astral planes so much that they choose to stay for centuries. Others choose to return to Earth to experience another lifetime in a new body - a process known as re-incarnation.
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~acceptance/YourPurposeWeb/PlanesandDimensions.htm

Religion along with westernized culture has seriously performed an impressive deprogramming on most Black people, in Africa as well. Our minds are raped of it's truths because once we become confused by the illusion of being disconnected from our source, it is then we become slaves to a system of lower density. But the biggest tragedy is that our return to greatest is a simple understanding. If we are told that God is within us, Heaven is within us- what this means is that the physical world is only a container. A container for what substance?

If are we not living to express what is contained within us, then yes, we will always be confused, and it will be easy to become trapped in lower realms.

For those of us that are astral or dream conscious, our abilities give us the perfect vantage point for understanding the realm of material and the realm of mental and emotional. Again- we are all here to express what is within, and not to become corrupted or re-programmed by someone else's reality unless that somehow fits into our model of creation. There are two things that will be forever on planet earth. War and the poor.

Both exist for the same reasons. All the money in the world will never fix poverty and all the peace loving in the world will never fix war. We learned this already growing up and going to school. There are many types of poverty and many types of war. In elementary school no matter how many toys were around there were always children that never wanted to share. They believed everything belonged to them. Fast forward many years later many of these children are ruling the world, either by controlling their own companies or empires.

No matter how powerful they become, these people are also poor. They desires of material power comes from an emotional poverty or a love deficiency. Other children with that same attitude become so bend on gaining material wealth and power that it consumes them and turns them into bitter people.

Such people often go about creating material poverty as it is used to symbolize their an invisible part of themselves. On the other hand even material poverty is also part of our creation. War is the original product of indifference, and it is indifference that is the opposite of love and not hate. We all come from different realms, this is why there will always be disagreements that escalate into wars.

We are different period. All of us are. Again just like in school. The bully is usually the most different of them all, and so he/she will go around on picking on others as a form of misdirection. We all came from different neighborhoods, different family backgrounds, different mindsets and attitudes about life. Interestingly enough we find ways to get along.

We arrive on this planet from different worlds. We are living in an age now where more and more people are becoming comfortable with that truth, so get used to hearing it.

Some of us will remember living in a world were all we had to do was “think” and whatever we desired would manifest itself instantly. When such people come into this world they will become poor, because they are frustrated with the results here and would rather live out this term of punishment whatever it is than subscribe their minds to dealing with a Universe that seems backwards. But that is a choice.

Poverty is not about wealth and money alone, is it mainly about the imagination- which is the ability to create with the mind. There are realms where zero hard work is required. And if we stand down and thought about it really really hard, this realm is one of them. Void of Man the Earth is indeed a paradise that requires very little to function. Many of us lived on the surface of this planet totally ignorant of the fact that we pray for rain and have yet to plant any seeds. But only Gods and Goddesses from different worlds that have lost their minds could be capable of such arrogance.

Still- after all, there is nothing wrong with hard work, if this is the mindset of creation we have been groomed in. If our imagination is crippled however, we should know something is wrong. IE- you shouldn't have to turn a corner to know something is around it. Something is always around the corner. Yet it may be because of our shortcomings in this Universe that the illusion of death is necessary. It's a performance we partake in to say good riddance to our weaknesses.

There is indeed an after-life and we tap into it everytime we sleep. It will verify itself for those who are open minded or scientific enough to pay attention.

TT0lPxYmoCo

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The journey continues....

Even though I've already done so on many different threads, I can give more examples of where the opening of the mind to the astral life and dream world can lead. Of course it was the same opening of the mind that led me to the course I am taking right now in spiritual technology. Actually, it would be impossible to take such a course without that ability because I am being trained in my dreamscape.

From time to time I also think to myself, this could all be my own mind playing tricks with me. But then the information I get is confirmed. I was going home, and near some bushes I saw something twinkling in the sunlight, “something told me” to go look at it. It looked to me like a polished white rock, I was told to take it home, clean it off in water and seasalt and attach it to my crystal antenna. The whole time I was thinking this was just a normal rock that anyone can get in a garden- but it wouldn't hurt to try.

That night I went to sleep as I usually do with the crystal antenna near the bed and I had perhaps some of the most vivid and powerful astrals I have ever had. I would say it was too vivid because I believed I was dead. I remembered going to a restaurant in what appeared to be Paris, the people were passing through me as if I was a ghost. I saw a White couple sitting at a table wearing bath robes so I assumed they were either dead or asleep like I was. They were sitting at the table sniffing the food, because of our condition were were unable to touch or taste anything. I tried to speak to them, the Wife was very racist realizing that I was Black she refused to speak.

Each time I clapped my hands I ended up in a different place. Eventually I found myself in a silver metallic warehouse and I saw clones of everyone I knew in school walking around. A White Man with a short haircut and a goatee came up to me, threw his arm around my shoulder and started giving me a tour of the place. He knew I was astralling. There was another White Man there standing next to us that looked like his bodyguard. I had a feeling I would not be allowed to leave from this place.

He sat me in front of a television and started showing me the Earth prior to the year 2001, he said they saved the earth from being destroyed and because of that they were able to negotiate certain deals with the leaders of the Earth. At this point I knew who these people were and that this was not the place I needed to be. I clapped my hands but nothing happened. Then something within me told me that I had the ability to control machines and that the bodyguard- the White Man standing over me was a Robot. I took control of his mind, and he followed my commands and helped me escape this metal warehouse. I was able to return back to my body safely.

Obviously that was an astral. Not in the real world. But after coming out of it, I knew that not only was it very real but that it was not over. That day the numbers 444 appeared about 8 times. It seemed more bizarre than normal. The best one was when my computer started scanning files for viruses, it stopped abruptly at 444. I laughed and a chill went down my spine as well. Because I knew something was trying to send me a message- but what, and from whom?

Also that same day, I was thinking about ordering ink for my printer from a store online I always order from. I was only thinking about it, but decided I had enough ink and I could order at another time. So why did this store email me that same day saying “Thank you for your order”? I doubled checked to make sure I didn't order anything and I didn't. I even emailed the company asking them to check it out. No one knew how I got that email, and I even forwarded it back to them and they were surprised because no one sent it out. So they say.

Somewhere between the 444s and the mysterious email, a less tolerant person would've lost their mind by now. But I then recalled the voice in my astral, perhaps the voice of one of my Spirit guides or even an Ancestor telling me that I had the ability to speak to machines.
Whatever it was, eventually it wore off by the next day.

I felt as though the rock I found had something to do with my experiences. I went to sleep one night and just before bed I said to myself, “I wonder what kind of rock this is?” The whole night I kept hearing two words, aloof and agate. When I woke up I didn't understand why I had those two words basically written into my brain. But when I looked up the rock based on how it looked I was surprised that it was white agate. I'm not sure why I heard the word aloof along with it, unless I was being told I already knew what it was.
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It is said white agate in particular helps for connecting with spirits. But it seems to have a stranger effect when placed on my crystal antenna. The other night I was in Tokyo. I saw it as clear as day, I knew it was Tokyo because I was following behind some Tourists that said it was. Again- I seemed to be a ghost, which is something I've never experienced in an astral the appearance of being invisible. In another experience I was next to a Man that was suffering from shapeshifting he couldn't control it and kept turning into different people. It was a very unusual place, like an in between world. He told me I needed to wake up and find out something that could help him. When I left he was turning into a big green blob like he was about to explode. It reminded of something Dark Warrior Ty said, that the spirits need us and are learning from us too.

On yet another night, a very interesting dream took place, I was having a conversation with a Black Woman in some type of store, and then she started whispering to me that she was one of the Ancients, but she was speaking to me and whispering as if someone would be listening and she didn't want them to hear her. She said "when you are a good magician, when you die people can do what you can do by speaking your name, and this is why people speak the name of Jesus but he is not real, it is me." When I sat next to this Woman she was very youthful, but as she spoke, she turned into an Elder. She said all of Africa knew about her, and she formed a priesthood of Women that later became known as the Sibils, yet she said another name that I can't recall. She said the Greeks told many stories about her, I haven't looked up any of this information yet. But the most important thing she wanted me to know was that her descendants and those descendants of her priesthood had the power to curse the womb of any Woman. She claimed this was how these Women ruled the known world and were feared. She seemed very angry that we allowed our enemies to have so many children when some Women still have this power? She had nothing to say about the Men, but I suspect it was important for this message in particular to be heard and not that the African Men had no power.

I've said before that a time would come when I would start experiencing “conscious death” and it seems like this journey into the after-life has begun. There are some unsavory characters I am hoping to avoid however.

I was told also that I am being hailed in the spirit realm by The Ptah Priesthood, which are Ancestors that have learn the mysteries of Ptah, they are artists, inventors and into spiritual magic.

I was walking tonight with my son, watching an incredible sunset, taking in the beauty of our park. The sun on the water, a small deer walking past us, and geese with their young. I was breathing in life, giving thanks and I heard the words again.... "sibyl". I smiled as I felt expansion through my being. I moved my consciousness to Alkebulan during our greatness, then moved it to the end of this great cycle, and realized the truth behind our immortality. My breath came in and out with the ether around me, and I could feel the life force energy within me blending with the nature surrounding us. I was peacful and exalted all at the same time. A few years ago I climbed Lady Macdonald a small mountain behind my home (prominence is only 246 ft). Climbing always makes me feel like I'm talking to the Creator, so on my way down, I was given a message about a gift I have. There wasn't any mention of being able to curse a womb however. I have never revealed to anyone what I heard and probably never will, unless they are someone very special to me....

I am not able to astral travel anymore, have not been able to for some time. Some force or energy which I feel is protective will not allow me to leave my body at night. I sense it's because I am not adequately prepared to defend myself and my child during this experience. however, I seem to travel when I'm fully awake simply by focusing my attention on one living thing / person, element and the associating that with a time and point in space.

My spirit guides recently recommended Adularia a form of moonstone, only it is faceted cut. I know it will appear or be gifted to me soon.

Brother Meta, thank you for your help with the website and the business idea. I am currently involved with a course on small business management and start up. I have a proposal for you, I would like to publish a selection of your work in pdf format, and make it available for download on the healing site. If you are open to this, please advise.

Happy to be of some assistance Goddess Phynx- and certainly you can use my work for your healing site as well.

I wanted to speak on some of that information about cursing the womb etc. Most of it is for a much different thread. I've been reaching a "Dr. Manhattan" level these days, if not for my Queen- I would not be grounded in this reality at all. I say that to give honor to the Goddesses as well as the Gods, we all play our part for helping to ground each other in our many ways.

I've created some, very interesting spiritual devices so far, many that I cannot discuss- only to say that it has helped me to understand the nature of the Human machine and brain. The crystal antenna that I've mentioned before, is only one in many series of devices that enables us to be able to astral travel.

But there is a second, perhaps even more powerful than the first. Everytime I use it I have to drink saltwater when I return. My guides have called it a "portkey" - but I haven't even perfected it yet. Because of it, I have been able to access many of my parallel lives. And I've come to this understanding as well.

I am a work in progress. I am being watched, refined, toyed with, evolved, teased, aggravated. And the best way to explain it, is to say it is being done from behind a screen.

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Who said God was a kid with an ant farm? The skinny of it is that we created this ant farm, and we are also the God that created it. But there are indeed 'Watchers" I've seen them, also known as "the programmers." They seem to be in charge with not only the flow of time, but the flow of everything- all moments. The don't control anything, they just watch and report information.
They are a network of eyes in all realms. They are a great audience of intelligent beings from different timelines.

But like the movie "Deja Vu" I also learned that our Higher Selves are beyond the Watchers. In the movie Denzel's Character is the higher self, everyone else in the room are Watchers, they are part of the system. From the level of the Higher Self we have the power to "gift" ourselves with things that will materialize in our timeline. That thing will not appear out of thin air, it will appear as if it was there all along. For example the white agate rock that I found. Or even the laptop that I found years before. Or the gas container filled with gas that I found when I really really needed it. Spirits and Ancestors have these same abilities to enter objects into our timeline, and so do we from the level of the Higher Self.

The portkey device is not something that requires a person to be fully asleep in order to travel, in fact a lite meditative trance is all that is needed. Instantly I feel a heavy vibration of energy starting from the center of my skull and then spreading all over my body. I remembered showing up in what looked like a place I was living, and I was writing a book called "Strangers From Within"- unable to imagine what this book could be about and I opened it up and began reading it. I found the work of my parallel self very fascinating.

The unfortunate effect of traveling often, or at least astral traveling consciously- is that you gain the attention of interdimensional beings and Watchers. As I mentioned before, these are not the beings you want messing around with your reality. I know people who never believed in those words that say to me today- you were so right. I don't fear Watchers, but I am careful with them. They can report information to people that you may not want to know certain things. They can input information into their dreams, or inspire them to make choices that will effect your life in a negative or positive way.

Everything we write or speak outloud is recorded. I promise you. Yet this is why "know thy self" is so very very critical. Know that, something is using your life to make a point. Sometimes that point is your own, sometimes it is not. It all depends on how connected you are with your truth.

I've already conducted a series of experiments to see just how much power Watchers have, and if I could influence them by being in connection with my higher self. I went on a astral quest, to engage myself with them by asking seriously about White people and Black people, and our relationship. I wanted to see moreso "how" such beings communicated. Because it is not with words or symbols. They use our very lives.

After my astral, something told me I should go to the grocery store and buy some food. I was in the store and I noticed the "produce clerk" was a White Man but very old, about 70. He was leaning over trying to lift out a large watermelon for another older White lady in a hoveround wheelchair. As I shopped, they were in ear shot and I listened as this lady had the old Man testing out watermelons for her. Finally she picked one and then left.

By that time I was minding my own business, picking out some corn on the cob and in back of me I heard someone say "today is one of those days when you just want to go around and shot people!" Not knowing the White old man was speaking directly to me, I continued shopping. Then he throws his voice again in my direction trying to get my attention- "these people round here make me crazy!" Finally I look around and the old White Man makes his way towards my cart, stops me in my tracks and begins what seemed to be an hour long conversation about all the abuse he gets on the job and how his tired old legs can't take it anymore. He told me it was his last day, and he transferred to another store that was less tiring on his old body.

I felt as though something wanted me to hear his story, which was the only reason I stayed. He said his peace and left, feeling as though he had given me something I needed to carry on. Still it took me some time to piece it all together, what was the message here? It wasn't until I ran into the old White lady in the wheelchair, the one who sparked the initial beef. I was looking at some fish, and she rolled right up on me and said "Oh no, you don't want that, try the frozen kind, it's much easier- it's all ready seasoned and everything- just throw it in a pan and you're done!" And she rolled away.

What was the connection here, and what were these "Watchers" trying to show me by inputting this story into my reality. I must also say that White people hardly ever speak to me- ever! Because I don't look approachable at all. And especially not older Whites.

I understood that the message here was about weakness. The older White lady's message was that she did things that took less time because it was easier. The old White Man said he transferred to another store where it was easier. Studying Whites in their true element of health, young or old- slavery was inevitable.

When I went back home and went into another astral state, I was told that Whites were created genetically weaker on purpose so that they could be controlled by the fear of death and pain. Those bodies were engineered by us, by our sciences, from our cells (selves). And as many of us have suspected, the beings that were "forced" into those bodies were kept there as imprisonment.

There are realms that connect many different worlds that are only meant for prisoners, those who are exiled and kicked out from their original world. Whites have been looking for ways to build better bodies for themselves and have been seriously unsuccessful for the same reasons they cannot tap into the spirit world without African anchors/Deities and spirits.

Even Elijah Muhammad spoke about a time when the Black Man and Woman will become so powerful, we could simply speak our enemies out of existence, they would dematerialize and vanish. That is not science fiction, that is quantum mechanics. Such technology is perhaps used in different worlds to teleport people and exile them- placing them on barren or scavenger worlds. I can almost imagine what would happen if Black people had such technology already, and would we use it on each other?

The Watchers report just about everything. So, it might explain why any and every effort to change this system overall results in failure. There are some beings you just can't stop from snitching. Only fully aware Gods and Goddesses can truly change this system. Anyone who thinks otherwise must realize that many like them have been here before trying to do the very same thing. You are just another version. What you are trying to do- already- has not worked.

But when we start thinking outside the box, out the screen and the script and the entire story- then we are forced to embrace the real Creator. Our higher self. The more we know of and connect with that self, the more we breach the system.

thank you very much first of all.

I sit and ponder daily the concept of crazy... and true indeed the defined crazy of this existence is by far mislabeled... crazy is to continue the same behaviors and expect a different result.... although awake or concious seems minority one can never turn back from this state of being... it's crazy to me that those who have tried and failed will continue...

what i feel is that with the capability to "vanquish" if u will is that those built to suit this level of power are not equipped with the attachments of the ego or the ability to decide what or who to destroy before their time comes.. the operate solely out of love... and have the ability to stand on the type of faith that yields understanding and compassion... and would never seek to destroy that which the creator has created... the understanding yields the notion that the intelligence will continue and the artificial intelligence will ultimately self destruct... nature will perfect itself and any rush on this process is a breach of the contract we all have with Ma'at...

this post brings me back to our experience with anubis, the scientist... with regard to cloning... it is very much real... but the clone can never become complete because it will reject the higher conciousness in an attempt to soothe the smaller self ..... when Isis became pregnant with Horus it was the love between Isis and Osiris that granted Horus his spirit.... and since love is an idea that can not be cloned and has to simply exist and enter those superior in love and humble to life will never be recreated by clone... only the old fashioned or primitive way of growth through nurturing, feeding and evolving through the stages naturally...

a scientist with a heart knows when it is time to become an observer and wait for the higher self to reveal the secrets that it has hidden for a reason.... the meaning comes... and then the question... and then the peace of understanding...

by far tolerance is a reverence granted us from our ancestors as we perfect our natures which in turn we should extend in this time and space out of respect for our beloveds who guide us but never interfere with our own free will... when we extend tolerence we are practicing give and receive...

u c all we've forgotten is all that we'll remember when the time comes for us to reveal it to self...

each invention that you make is a stich of your soul
and when the puzzle comes together and u become whole
wisdom will be ur guide and the body will never grow old
once upon a time we had secrets we told
but we decided not to tell anymore and just let our nature unfold

Much love to you... I have so much to tell you about my experiences..energy exchange i would appreciate...

Beloved Goddess Miss Lady- I know we both have such powerful experiences- and if it were up to others, we'd share the same madhouse. I guess it's the same for anyone that views reality from an angle the majority does not. I was in an astral school a few nights back and it seems everyone has allot of complaints about how we behave on this planet. I've given up trying to defend earth's natives.

The classes I am in deal with allot of spiritual science and technology, things that I would never expect to be remembering are becoming clearer and clearer. On top of all of it, I'm getting "broken in" because I am told here on earth we are educated to think irrationally, which makes us stupid to the obvious. And irrationality is the supreme enemy to the higher sciences. I've heard it time and time again just how irrational we are, and it's because of this we can't think past phase one. Phase one is when we acknowledge how we came into existence and into consciousness. How we deal with phase one determines how we relate to everything else.

I made the terrible mistake of channeling certain high Gods such as Anubis to deal with questions that appeared irrational from their view. It took some time to understand why questions about death were irrational to a spirit. And then a big 'Duh' hit me. But you see- that's how we think. Some people reading that won't get it either. The common answer to phase one is that we came into existence and consciousness because those that loved themselves duplicated themselves. From the perspective of Higher Gods/Goddesses the love for self is the source of all rationality and power, without it nothing makes sense. It's from this position that I've learned to address my Teachers in the spirit realm and astral realms.

You have to declare that it's because of your love for self that you are seeking a return, and to remember you overall truth. It seems irrational to them that we are doing things to reinforce our pain or victim mentality. A love for self says there is nothing you can do to me that I could not find a way to get over. The Ancestors have also told me that Africa is the heart of the world, the more we understand about the heart chakra, the more we will understand about real African power- and how "You and I can conquer the World" as Stevie Wonder said.

The barbarians believe themselves to be controllers of this planet are not the reason for love songs on the radio. We are. Love is a focal point on this planet because of Black power and emotional intelligence. What we still haven't realized is that this power is what we used to create cultures and season the planet, and not war and military might. And as the Ancestors have told me so long as some of us continue along that path we will continue to fail. Love is a raw abundant energy that powerful beings from different realms emit back and forth to each other in a call and response fashion.

Damaged minds/hearts cannot perform this act. Part of my irrationality deprogramming deals allot with manhood, because we assume manhood doesn't vibe well with "love" as it appears to be mainly feminine in nature. The "love for self" frequency is different for males and females. Men have a love for duty, strength and honor. We love being able to accomplish what most cannot. These are the variables that drive men to be builders and architects.

Now what Men in the physical world must realize is that there are an unlimited amount of beings and Ancestors in the different realms that watch us and support us when we are performing the roles of manhood that are communicated using that love frequency. It explains why some of us along a magician's path find information so easily. We block this energy with our consciousness also, which can lead to further suffering. Our Ancestors did not put us here to suffer, nor did we animate ourselves here to suffer. Suffering just happens to be a part of creation for those that do not remember their origin of abundance. Something we cannot remember if we continue to engage our minds in certain paradigms of irrationality.

Some of the most popular love songs are actually Spirits and Ancestors speaking to us and us speaking back, it is a call and response between beings of higher consciousness Listen carefully to the lyrics of "You are Not Alone" - originally this was a song written by R. Kelly during one of his many spiritual highs.

Wherever we focus our minds is where the power of our hearts will go.
We give our enemies the power of our hearts, which is why they are still so successful- nothing exists without love.
Those who are so passionate about white supremacy, are also giving that paradigm power.
We take power away from something when we learn how to pull of minds away from it, it will vanish or change without our attention to feed it.

Beloved Goddess Miss Lady- I know we both have such powerful experiences- and if it were up to others, we'd share the same madhouse. I guess it's the same for anyone that views reality from an angle the majority does not. I was in an astral school a few nights back and it seems everyone has allot of complaints about how we behave on this planet. I've given up trying to defend earth's natives.

The classes I am in deal with allot of spiritual science and technology, things that I would never expect to be remembering are becoming clearer and clearer. On top of all of it, I'm getting "broken in" because I am told here on earth we are educated to think irrationally, which makes us stupid to the obvious. And irrationality is the supreme enemy to the higher sciences. I've heard it time and time again just how irrational we are, and it's because of this we can't think past phase one. Phase one is when we acknowledge how we came into existence and into consciousness. How we deal with phase one determines how we relate to everything else.

I made the terrible mistake of channeling certain high Gods such as Anubis to deal with questions that appeared irrational from their view. It took some time to understand why questions about death were irrational to a spirit. And then a big 'Duh' hit me. But you see- that's how we think. Some people reading that won't get it either. The common answer to phase one is that we came into existence and consciousness because those that loved themselves duplicated themselves. From the perspective of Higher Gods/Goddesses the love for self is the source of all rationality and power, without it nothing makes sense. It's from this position that I've learned to address my Teachers in the spirit realm and astral realms.

You have to declare that it's because of your love for self that you are seeking a return, and to remember you overall truth. It seems irrational to them that we are doing things to reinforce our pain or victim mentality. A love for self says there is nothing you can do to me that I could not find a way to get over. The Ancestors have also told me that Africa is the heart of the world, the more we understand about the heart chakra, the more we will understand about real African power- and how "You and I can conquer the World" as Stevie Wonder said.

The barbarians believe themselves to be controllers of this planet are not the reason for love songs on the radio. We are. Love is a focal point on this planet because of Black power and emotional intelligence. What we still haven't realized is that this power is what we used to create cultures and season the planet, and not war and military might. And as the Ancestors have told me so long as some of us continue along that path we will continue to fail. Love is a raw abundant energy that powerful beings from different realms emit back and forth to each other in a call and response fashion.

Damaged minds/hearts cannot perform this act. Part of my irrationality deprogramming deals allot with manhood, because we assume manhood doesn't vibe well with "love" as it appears to be mainly feminine in nature. The "love for self" frequency is different for males and females. Men have a love for duty, strength and honor. We love being able to accomplish what most cannot. These are the variables that drive men to be builders and architects.

Now what Men in the physical world must realize is that there are an unlimited amount of beings and Ancestors in the different realms that watch us and support us when we are performing the roles of manhood that are communicated using that love frequency. It explains why some of us along a magician's path find information so easily. We block this energy with our consciousness also, which can lead to further suffering. Our Ancestors did not put us here to suffer, nor did we animate ourselves here to suffer. Suffering just happens to be a part of creation for those that do not remember their origin of abundance. Something we cannot remember if we continue to engage our minds in certain paradigms of irrationality.

Some of the most popular love songs are actually Spirits and Ancestors speaking to us and us speaking back, it is a call and response between beings of higher consciousness Listen carefully to the lyrics of "You are Not Alone" - originally this was a song written by R. Kelly during one of his many spiritual highs.

Wherever we focus our minds is where the power of our hearts will go.
We give our enemies the power of our hearts, which is why they are still so successful- nothing exists without love.
Those who are so passionate about white supremacy, are also giving that paradigm power.
We take power away from something when we learn how to pull of minds away from it, it will vanish or change without our attention to feed it.

now that frequency ... of love... the heart charkra ... that one natural... the third eye... the intuition... natural....

the Divine electricity that travels in which u have discussed feelin it more and more ....

the more i develop these .... the closer i get to channeling thru the crown or dome where the what or the knowledge and wisdom may enter is what i prepare for most.... too much too fast is like overdrive and it drains me.. exhausts me ....

What r ur thoughts of the sex charkras... or rather sensuality?

it's funny because what u said with regard to energy goin to the notion of white supremecy is something i thought but opted not to say for the very reason u stated ..... in fact, what u say is of the utmost superiority... the most superior civilized approach is exactly the attitude there is nothing u can do to me to change my very nature or spirit being..... when the heart is in that ... and u mean it... every aspect of life is a miricle... and ciphering lessor emotions such as returning hatred becomes obsolete....

i asked a few people recently to answer a question... and i probed them to please not think complicated keep it simple...

the question was..... How can you change the world?

and the answer that i was lookin for and no one thought of was simple..

that each and every form of life we encounter has already changed the world by simply becoming into it...

did u ever think about the first time duplication occured?

Goddess Miss Lady, I've always found sexual sensuality to increase due to meditation, constructive breathing techniques and a lite form of astral projection, which can be as simple as using your imagination to be able to observe yourself during a sexual event. My favorite affirmation to myself during sexual moments is- "absolute power streams into the mind and then into the body" from there I breathe out, the MJ classic "Hooo" but silently because this is a mantra that pours energy into the body. The frequency from the heart is of course much different than the sex organ and sex chakra, but for more long term creative sex, it helps to tap into both and imagine a cord between them.

A Man can learn to tap into astral or invisible energy through certain breathing techniques, once he learns that the drain and exhaustion that is common during sex can be controlled.

The ultimate power is power and control over self, there is none higher. Anything we desire to overcome can be overcame the more we empower ourselves with our most powerful realities, for everyone that might be different- but the core of it is love for self.

I also feel this "becoming" produces change. It's like standing in a long and boring line, and then an attractive female step in the room, all eyes are on her- the line is not so long anymore and boring. She has changed the condition of the situation. Like that we all come into this world to change something. The problem is that attractive female may not always realize what she created.

It may be possible that the original duplication created objective reality. It would be interesting, if say Men and Women could "clone themselves" without the help of one another, would we choose to clone ourselves because of something we love about ourselves? Since reproduction is natural cloning between a man and a woman, it appears there is also something very unique and special that we see in that other person that we assign that love frequency too as well. Which means we are children of objective reality, it is part of how we rationalize our love for self as well as each other. The spirit realm doesn't change that either. Subjective reality was perhaps what we started off with in the beginning. That is the single cell being saying- I am All.
It is from that All, that I AM- that consciousness of energy became and duplicated itself in order to sensualize/feel more of it's dimension.

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Dark Goddess Alex, I figured the discuss was more appropriate for this thread so I moved it here. "What Dreams May Come" is also a very powerful book I must add. There was a time when I was reading tons of books like that. The title comes from Hamlet- for in that sleep of death what dreams may come, when we have shuffled off this mortal coil-must give us pause.

Apparently in the story it is illustrated that being Black in one place and White in another, or vice versa- is easy because it's all part of the illusion, all part of how we wish to look and become for whatever purpose. But seeing that Cuba Gooding always seems to find those "good negro" roles, the story's visuals are misleading because you'd notice most of the Black folks are in hell.

But hollywood is only allowed to give us but so much truth, it's in their contact.

I remembered a line from the movie...we lose our minds when we start to believe someone else's reality? This is very true. After all most of these movies come from a white reality. Thus why should we expect whites to see us in their heaven? Just as "Sex in the City" mysteriously erases Black people from a black populated city like New York, certainly whites are allowed to ban us from their private heavens. And they do. "This place is big enough for everyone to have their own private heaven."

Betty Eadie wrote a book many years ago that was the first of many such books dealing with near death experienced titled "Embraced By the Light" and in it she describes going through certain hell like experiences. She also mentioned Jesus coming to her at one point and saying "Don't you know this is an illusion?" Even when reading the book I realized that this "Jesus" figure that Betty mentions was not only speaking about the hell illusion, but everything- even himself.

What some people who doubt such experiences, life after death- etc, don't realize is that Doctors have been experimenting on people for decades trying to figure out what happens when we die. There was a study done by 12 independent Doctors working with 12 independent patients for a period of 5 years. They would induce these patients with different drugs to basically flatline them, like in the movie "FlatLiners" - all 12 of the patients reported the same thing over and over for each report.

You see we as a people have moved too far away from natural and spiritual science and this is why we have such a hard time understanding and separating truth from spookism. Again- we are dealing with what is rational. What these 12 patients reported is the same storyline in most of these movies about near death experiences and the after life. All the stories are the same. What makes them different is the mind that is creating or perceiving the afterlife. They all reported tunnels of light, seeing deceased family members and friends, being told about their purpose back on earth and that it wasn't their time. So thinking rationally why else would all 12 of these people report those very same things?

We have to really start dealing with these questions and answers because obviously too many of us are stuck here still trying to figure out how to pry ourselves loose from this glue trap. Meanwhile these Doctors like Dr. Brian Weiss and others are doing major work that is leading up to brain machines that allow them to tap into the Universe itself and learn about the future. It all starts with the mind.

There is an interesting "catholic" theme in the movie "What Dreams May Come" and as well the same is in the movie "Constantine." You commit suicide you go to hell right? The explanation is because we understand a natural law and order of things. We know we ended our life's journey prematurely.

It's really our level of consciousness that create the hell illusion in the first place. A Mother comes home to find her child has put himself on time out. He's sitting in a corner facing the wall because he accidentally spilled orange juice on the carpet. Another child of a different mindset would've spent the time wasted sitting in a corner by cleaning up the orange juice to the point where Mom would've never known the difference.

MJ most likely did commit suicide even if it was indirect. There are many that have used suicide to transition consciously because one knows the time of death. You prepare yourself for the crossing. That's really what most suicide cults are about. Sometimes this same thing happens in a plane crash. If the people are aware that they are most definitely going to die, they find a peaceful state within them and cross over consciously. When death surprises you the trauma can cause you to stick around.

The millions that will transition soon may have a great deal of trauma and it will be due to a natural disaster. But it was something we selected to get off of this island before another age sweeps in. Many of us are just ready for a new stage, it is not anything negative but just we have to know that loved ones are always calling us and watching out for us and if we learn to contact them and keep in contact they will make arrangements for us especially when we still need to learn how to create and maintain our own astral space.

The devices I spoke about before for allowing the self to temporarily transfer out of the body and experience a conscious astral reality are actually beads worn around the head. They are called "Goddess beads" for Women wanting to tap into that feminine power. They have to be gifted to you, not purchased, and they have to be designed and created by powerful hands as well. They are not easy to find at all and there is no recipe for making them. But if you put your conscious energy out there they will come. It is worn around the head or neck during meditation. The energy of the beads will do a major reconstruction to your aura which will lead to that experience of transcendence.

"... There is an interesting "catholic" theme in the movie "What Dreams May Come" and as well the same is in the movie "Constantine." You commit suicide you go to hell right? The explanation is because we understand a natural law and order of things. We know we ended our life's journey prematurely.
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Those who commit such an act probably already feel they are in hell and that whatever natural law and order there is is working against them. To prevent such, healing MUST be actualized. People need consistent and solid information for that. It is obvious from his physical transformation over the years that Michael was hurting. This story isn't uncommon for many Black people over the globe; we've gotten into the habit of lying to ourselves about it, but it is there. I say if you are called as a healer (as you seem to be), then keep it coming at us, as I am enjoying "The Musings of Metasaience".

Meta, always dropping gems, again, thanks for sharing, I always learn a lot, or extract something for me.

I have seen some planes which are very much earth like, and this saddens me, or actually makes me work harder to reach the higher aspects of myself, something beyond earthly thoughts, or thoughts all-together?

What I question is, what exactly happens to the consciousness, during the dreamless part of the sleep? I know the Eastern sages have a concept called Samahdi whereas, they wish to exist in a state totally outside of most bodily, mental, and emotional functions, and only then can they experience the darkest/deepest/unknown parts of their conconsciousness. Some say there is a part of us that is on the level of just knowing, no thought, but I haven't made it through those tunnels yet, I wonder what kind of after-life they experience.

Since getting more into the spiritual world, many Black ancestors and others have came in my dream, some straight up, others in disguise (as you helped me realize), but still they always seem to be trapped, one saying something like they were in a better place, but nonetheless held back from full ascencion or at least where they wanted to be, he described others who held onto black power ideologies, and those stuck in those thought currents, needed help ascending, from what I know there are actual realms that can help teach this, but there may also be beings that reside over these places keeping them within, because if they go, then they cease to exist. Its suprising how many spirits are still connected to some kind of earth current in some way or shape. One other thing I find interesting, is that some ancestors, who have made further progress, are much harder (if at all) to get in contact with, and don't identity at all, with the earth character they played. Some even get upset at the fact that, or impatient that someone with a mind much much less developed then theirs is trying to talk. I know when I'm gone, n****s better leave me a lone. I think that is why it may be so important to study spiritual sciences in this life, for self-illumination, and freedom to go and create what you want, I've met a lot of people who are just okay with living in someone elses paradigm, but that's cool too.

Something you said another time makes a lot of sense. I think you said something like when you got a certain channel, that the being said even the astral plane is apart of the earth, just beyond the physical plane of it. I'm still trying to see what is beyond- or who? Of course I have so many more questions, but great thread!

You always know how to spark the conversation even more Dark Warrior! And yes, I believe you are speaking about my interaction with Abyss, I haven't reached that level of understanding yet either- I can only tap into it during a heavy channel but it's hard to compute sometimes as he said we are not really having "out of body" experiences because we are still attached to the earth and the earth is part of our body, thus when we think we are outside our physical body we are still part of the physical earth.

I can confirm some of this because I've engaged with spirits before just from doing minor things in the past that told me they are spending their death by touring the world, going to Paris and places they couldn't go while in the body. This tells us that some people aren't interested in ascending not right away. There are still things on the planet they want to experience.

There are many many realms just like earth, there are many partitions already here on the planet, higher frequencies where people live much longer than we do. Love has a catch 22, whereas we continue to re-create the things we love even when those things produced allot of pain for us. We are the programmers as well as the programs that run the Matrix. And it's very true that many Higher beings think of us as fowl perversions not worthy of any time at all. What I've learned is that most of us started off at the very high level anyway and we descended down, thus we are all fallen angels so to speak. But the higher you go the more expanded and abstract everything becomes. It's like those dreams we have when we have a high fever.

The spiritual masters on this planet work hard everyday to free themselves from earthly ties, because they don't want to reincarnate and they don't want to recreate their addictions in their personal heavens. Because such an illusion can become hellish very quickly. Whatever your material addiction is, it can multiply itself to the highest power- causing you to lose your mind.

For that reason I cherish the path of conscious death now, as well as the experience I had living inside a dark world. That is ground zero for me, anytime I get overwhelmed by reality I go back to that world. While it is an illusion, it is an illusion I can turn off. And I think that's the important part. If it's an illusion you can control, then you're fine. But if the illusion is controlling you- you're in trouble.

Once we exit this realm totally there are many worlds and memories that will come back to us. We put those memories away because it's all part of the game. We don't lose any memories because reality is nothing else but compressed memories. I've had dreams where I am speaking to people I've never met about things that happened that I can only remember in the dreamstate. Once I wake up those people are strangers to me. We share worlds and we create our own worlds. The Universe is no less a product than an ipod. The earth is just a song.

Higher beings respond to allot of music and dance rituals. They are also attracted to people that seem to be at peace when they are dreaming or in the astral. Because you know usually we invent dramas there too. Sometimes I sit and meditate in the astral realm, which is also a sign of a content soul. But I imagine myself breathing in the energy of the space, and I'd watch my physical body break off into pieces and float off.

I was doing something like that once and an Asian Monk came to me and taught me how to make my chi/ase more powerful by holding my right hand over a candle- by imagining my chi expanding around my body- the flame will not burn the hand. It was a very frightening experience the first time I tried it, it took me awhile to master not getting burned- but it does work. Methods like that help us to grow more conscious of our mental and immortal bodies. People in the east are doing such things everyday, it's what they live for.

There are also allot of Deities that control their own astral realms too. Some of these worlds are very beautiful, yet they all come with a price- the losing of your mind. Since dealing with Deities like Anubis, I admit his world could be consuming. His energy also is very electric and takes allot of getting used too. I've found out a very valuable secret. We all have soulmates in the higher realms that come looking for us when we are lost. I've met a few Goddesses that have told me they've sent me information and Women to keep me on a certain path. Goddesses are very interesting, they keep an emotional filing system- meaning if you've really pissed one off- don't expect her to come looking for you right away. But she will come. And I think that is the memory all people have locked into their subconscious. We are not waiting for the return of an Avatar, but we know something is supposed to come looking for us because we are lost. That's why the religious call it "becoming saved."

I know when I'm gone, n****s better leave me a lone. I think that is why it may be so important to study spiritual sciences in this life, for self-illumination, and freedom to go and create what you want, I've met a lot of people who are just okay with living in someone elses paradigm, but that's cool too.

Lol@ I know when I'm gone, n****s better leave me alone; understandable (incidentally Baba Darkside once stated he doesn’t mind being called upon, I hope this has changed. I miss him. Sighs). Anyway TY, I strongly suspect that the relationship between the living and the dead is a mutually beneficial one; doesn’t even have to be an agreeable one; but necessary nonetheless. What do you reckon? I am open to being dissuaded of this suspicion.

Ps – I have been meaning to tell you something for the longest. You once asked why people become much stronger in the after life; I think this was following Metasaience’s near death experience involving his Ex. The answer is in the thread ‘Could you help me ascend?’ and the gist of it is that the more esoteric knowledge you amass and practical spiritual experience you gain sort of multiplies x fold. So in the case of people like Blackbird and DMagick; I imagine they will be pretty powerful on the other side.

I think some of the parables that Yeshua told allude to this come to think of it.

God MS is this right?

So how about you God MS? Will you want be ‘unlisted’ once you have transitioned? How about if I - or one of your many fans - transition first and in need of your help in ascending? Will you tell me/them to jog on and get lost? This is ofcourse a no-obligation question; no salesman will come calling lol.

Oh, last question; you said; We all have soulmates in the higher realms that come looking for us when we are lost. Sorry, I don’t quite understand this, lost in the sense that you have come off your spiritual path? What quirk do Gods possess?

Cheers in advance as always,

Ps-thanks for moving the other post to this thread - it was the right course of action.

Alexandra

Lol@ I know when I'm gone, n****s better leave me alone; understandable (incidentally Baba Darkside once stated he doesn’t mind being called upon, I hope this has changed. I miss him. Sighs). Anyway TY, I strongly suspect that the relationship between the living and the dead is a mutually beneficial one; doesn’t even have to be an agreeable one; but necessary nonetheless. What do you reckon? I am open to being dissuaded of this suspicion.


Alexandra

I agree the relationship is a mutual one also, depending on who you're dealing with. Some beings it seems, don't want anything to do with us, until we get back to our former mindstates, as being the real gods. When I think about it, it makes sense, most of my questions really are irrelevant to them, but the ones I have come in contact with inspire through other means, usually symbols, and aha experiences. I know this differs with each individual though.

You always know how to spark the conversation even more Dark Warrior! And yes, I believe you are speaking about my interaction with Abyss, I haven't reached that level of understanding yet either- I can only tap into it during a heavy channel but it's hard to compute sometimes as he said we are not really having "out of body" experiences because we are still attached to the earth and the earth is part of our body, thus when we think we are outside our physical body we are still part of the physical earth.

I can confirm some of this because I've engaged with spirits before just from doing minor things in the past that told me they are spending their death by touring the world, going to Paris and places they couldn't go while in the body. This tells us that some people aren't interested in ascending not right away. There are still things on the planet they want to experience.

There are many many realms just like earth, there are many partitions already here on the planet, higher frequencies where people live much longer than we do. Love has a catch 22, whereas we continue to re-create the things we love even when those things produced allot of pain for us. We are the programmers as well as the programs that run the Matrix. And it's very true that many Higher beings think of us as fowl perversions not worthy of any time at all. What I've learned is that most of us started off at the very high level anyway and we descended down, thus we are all fallen angels so to speak. But the higher you go the more expanded and abstract everything becomes. It's like those dreams we have when we have a high fever.

The spiritual masters on this planet work hard everyday to free themselves from earthly ties, because they don't want to reincarnate and they don't want to recreate their addictions in their personal heavens. Because such an illusion can become hellish very quickly. Whatever your material addiction is, it can multiply itself to the highest power- causing you to lose your mind.

For that reason I cherish the path of conscious death now, as well as the experience I had living inside a dark world. That is ground zero for me, anytime I get overwhelmed by reality I go back to that world. While it is an illusion, it is an illusion I can turn off. And I think that's the important part. If it's an illusion you can control, then you're fine. But if the illusion is controlling you- you're in trouble.

Once we exit this realm totally there are many worlds and memories that will come back to us. We put those memories away because it's all part of the game. We don't lose any memories because reality is nothing else but compressed memories. I've had dreams where I am speaking to people I've never met about things that happened that I can only remember in the dreamstate. Once I wake up those people are strangers to me. We share worlds and we create our own worlds. The Universe is no less a product than an ipod. The earth is just a song.

Higher beings respond to allot of music and dance rituals. They are also attracted to people that seem to be at peace when they are dreaming or in the astral. Because you know usually we invent dramas there too. Sometimes I sit and meditate in the astral realm, which is also a sign of a content soul. But I imagine myself breathing in the energy of the space, and I'd watch my physical body break off into pieces and float off.

I was doing something like that once and an Asian Monk came to me and taught me how to make my chi/ase more powerful by holding my right hand over a candle- by imagining my chi expanding around my body- the flame will not burn the hand. It was a very frightening experience the first time I tried it, it took me awhile to master not getting burned- but it does work. Methods like that help us to grow more conscious of our mental and immortal bodies. People in the east are doing such things everyday, it's what they live for.

There are also allot of Deities that control their own astral realms too. Some of these worlds are very beautiful, yet they all come with a price- the losing of your mind. Since dealing with Deities like Anubis, I admit his world could be consuming. His energy also is very electric and takes allot of getting used too. I've found out a very valuable secret. We all have soulmates in the higher realms that come looking for us when we are lost. I've met a few Goddesses that have told me they've sent me information and Women to keep me on a certain path. Goddesses are very interesting, they keep an emotional filing system- meaning if you've really pissed one off- don't expect her to come looking for you right away. But she will come. And I think that is the memory all people have locked into their subconscious. We are not waiting for the return of an Avatar, but we know something is supposed to come looking for us because we are lost. That's why the religious call it "becoming saved."

Thanks for breaking that down!

I also wanted to know your opinion in that some say, our cosmic position, is now in the place where the old "underworld", and some ancestral realms used to be. One spirit told me that the age of Aquarius is so important for those wanting to reach higher, because cosmically, there aren't many stars in this constellation, which block access to the dimensions open "black space" allow us to enter, but as you say, not all of them tell the truth, or know what they are speaking about- who knows. Some would say in this day and age, we are already in the after life, I really don't know what to say about that one.

Dark Goddess Alex, I was told by an initiated friend of mine that I've already been chosen by Anubis as an Ancestor that will be called on. And to be totally honest I'm called on already- as I mentioned before there are spirits on the other side that summon me all the time for technical help. That's also why I mentioned our spiritual and magickal names and how sacred they are. I'm not always conscious of mine but some on the otherside certainly are.

I haven't sorted out the whole Anubis experience and others yet, I need more time to really stabilize my mind from all the other events that are taking place. I really don't always know how I am able to do the things I can do. What I write about comes from my study of certain events, but there are some events in my own life that are more difficult to understand at first. For example being summoned by someone on the otherside for help seems odd and strange considering I look to the spirit realm for aide myself.

When I was younger my Spiritual Mother told me I would be able to learn about computers very quickly as if I was born to them. I wasn't at all into computers at that time. And then I always questioned her psychic gifts so I never really believed her. But that's precisely what happened. I even went to school for IT and my Teacher asked me how did I know all that stuff even things he didn't know. I told him I just had a basic understanding of computers. He actually thought I was sent from the computer technology center to spy on him. It's still bizarre to me- I asked myself am I from the future or something?

Once a writer I was working with called me in desperation, she had accidentally erased a book she was working on from a floppy disc. I had some cheap backup software that I used to recover the deleted file from her disc. The software wasn't designed for that, something just told me I could and it worked. It's taking me years to delve into myself in order to understand how certain things that I do are possible. One day I turned on the tv, and an episode of SG-1 was on, in this episode in particular one of the characters had their consciousness transferred into a computer by an alien being that was also electronic.

Nowadays when something is relevant to me I get a sharp pain right at the back of my head. I know that show was telling me something about myself. I've learned that there are many types of consciousness, just as there are many ways to create frequency waves or music. You can play a dream beat from a drum, or you can play a drum beat electronically. Anubis as a Deity has a mastery over technology and electronics. The different Deities that we speak of are godheads or goddessheads of different types of consciousness. And we all fit into different houses when it comes to that. That might explain some of the zodiac as well.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/15723/366026-139570-anubis_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/39302/855527-anubis_by_genzoman_super.jpg
It shouldn't surprise anyone that some of the technology you will see in depictions of Anubis or ancient Deities and Africans are also some of the same devices we are still recreating in this age but are classified as "newage" such as the spiritual technologies we've been discussing.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3468/3288770452_c793cf72ce.jpg

In a nutshell in the physical we are just symbols. Being black, a symbol. Being White- a symbol. All physical things are only symbols. In Dr. Manhattan's case, he picked a symbol of truth that was best for him. He placed the symbol of the hydrogen atom on his forehead.

Dr. Alexis Carrel, the scientist who won the Nobel prize for keeping the cells of a chicken heart alive for 34 years stated, "The cell is immortal. It is merely the fluid (water) in which it floats that degenerates. Renew this fluid at intervals, give the cells what they require for nutrition and, as far as we know, the pulsation of life may go on forever." That's a potent statement. Stop for a moment and contemplate what he said. If the water in the cells is renewed properly cellular life as we know it is immortal.

Water has the unique ability to form weak bonds with other molecules. It is this ability that allows water to disassemble and rearrange the essential chemistry of life. Thus it is called the universal solvent. Water is also a perfect conductor of electricity. This is one of its great roles in facilitating thought. Thought is the electrical potential shared between brain neurons through electrochemical transmitters. It is essential that the electrical potential of brain chemistry be present for clear thought to transpire.

It is electricity that carries the message down the neuronal axon to the synaptic cleft. This impulse or electrical charge has been measured at approximately a tenth of a volt from bottom to top. The impulse only lasts for about 1/1000 of a second. The axon itself has many tiny channels or gates in its cell wall that regulate the relationship of sodium (Na) molecules on the interior with potassium (K) molecules on the exterior of the axon. When this chemical balance is changed and sodium flows into the axon, increasing the interior concentration, an electrical charge is built up. It is the continual movement of this charge down the axon, receiving sodium at each new channel like a domino effect, that pushes the chemical neurotransmitters to the end of the axon and out the synapse.
http://www.enchantedmind.com/html/science/elixir_of_life.html

Now we know why Dr. Manhattan is blue. We should understand these elements as symbols that capture our consciousness, thus to have the full potential of your electronic consciousness- if you are from that realm- it is best to use water as your daily initiation into your realm of origin.

In order to really understand our place in these realms, we have to move beyond what we are as symbols and sigils. We can understand our consciousness by how the Universe reacts to us being here, because it is that which really determines who we are. Then from there we can understand why we create symbols like black, brown, red etc., because these are only levels of energy and frequency. So if someone says "I am black" we should know right away this is a symbol of what composes the known universe- as a substance as well as a visual attribute. Again we know a black person is reflecting a level of consciousness not an actual reality of being black. We often confused that, and thus get caught up in our self-inflicted illusions.

And that's pretty much where we are right now. Gods and Goddesses can get lost in their own self-inflicted creations, but we have failsafe methods in place on the otherside that react when we need them too, the soulmates that are connected to us is only one of them. The other is that there are beings and machines on this planet that we can call up, even to destroy the world when we need them too- but many of us have forgotten the languages such entities are programmed with. They remain inside the earth, as well as around the earth. Remember in the movie "War of the Worlds" there are a mention that those creatures were beneath the ground all along. Just as some people have witnessed the Ancients coming out the ground in Egypt and disappearing into caves. There are many such reports here in America too, about strange people and beings coming out of holes in the ground.

DW Ty- there is allot a truth to that. The mainstream level on this planet is really going to change, we are going to hear about more well respected and powerful people dying and leaving because the time at hand will be mastered by well advanced souls who will reach a level of power that might completely change the landscape of this planet. They are calling it a mutation period, a cosmic leap in dna. You wake up one morning and you're levitating 2 inches off the ground and that's how you'll be for the rest of your life. Or you're able to jump 100 feet into the air with no problem. People that were considered extraordinary will not be so extraordinary in this age, thus- if your ego will be bruised it might be best to leave now- which is why we find allot of celebs leaving the island. Everyone in the right position will gain something, but the really lucky ones will gain more insight into the truth than ever before and the material world will not be as consuming as previous.

OMG!! Did you say Anpu/Anubis? In which case God MS, I feel I must share something before even reading your post in its entirety. I hope you don’t mind :)

I work with a few Saints (from an ATR perspective, and not Catholicism), and today being St Christopher’s feast day, I was moved to observe it and try and find out more about this Patron Saint of Travellers.

The legend (white radio superclean version) states:

A heathen king (in Canaan or Arabia), through the prayers of his wife to the Blessed Virgin, had a son, whom he called Offerus (Offro, Adokimus, or Reprebus) and dedicated to the gods Machmet and Apollo. Acquiring in time extraordinary size and strength, Offerus resolved to serve only the strongest and the bravest. He bound himself successively to a mighty king and to Satan, but he found both lacking in courage, the former dreading even the name of the devil, and the latter frightened by the sight of a cross at the roadside.

For a time his search for a new master was in vain, but at last he found a hermit (Babylas?) who told him to offer his allegiance to Christ, instructed him in the Faith, and baptized him. Christopher, as he was now called, would not promise to do any fasting or praying, but willingly accepted the task of carrying people, for God's sake, across a raging stream. One day he was carrying a child who continually grew heavier, so that it seemed to him as if he had the whole world on his shoulders. The child, on inquiry, made himself known as theCreator and Redeemer of the world. To prove his statement the child ordered Christopher to fix his staff in the ground. The next morning it had grown into a palm-tree bearing fruit. The miracle converted many. This excited the rage of the king (prefect) of that region (Dagnus of Samos in Lycia?). Christopher was put into prison and, after many cruel torments, beheaded.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03728a.htm

The dirty negro version;

Christopher was a cynocephalic – human in form except it has a dog, wolf, or jackal head. In many legends this race of human like dogs and wolves were the creators of mankind (God = Dog??). Some dog men became gods in their own right, or in the Christian sense, they became saints.

According to legend, Christopher was a giant belonging to a race which ate human flesh and whose only form of communication was barking. His original name, Reprebos ‘the condemmed’ corresponds to his nature: he is black, pagan, ferocious and dreadful. After ferrying the Christ child, he is persuaded by Christ to fight against the pagan armies until he was baptized, at which point his skin becomes ‘white as milk’ *eye roll* and he loses his canine characteristics.

St Christopher was depicted with a dogs head until the beginning of the 19th Century.


Another similar version states 'Grasping a staff, Anubis carries the infant Horus across the Nile, becoming the original St. Christopher'

I then came across a story where the Yama, God of death has been summoned by this human being who is tired of living in terror of death and they have a brief exchange during which the God (incidentally he is the Hindu equivalent of Anubis) teaches him what death really is.

Interesting stuff, well I thought so anyway lol, . Again, apologies for the deviation; off see what you wrote :)

A

I wasn't going to write about this dream, because it was again, rather unpleasant and I've had enough... but alas they seem to sneak into my consciousness when I least expect them. My readings suggest that someone is attempting to influence me using bad medicine

Basic summary: futuristic but not too far away, it's always night time, there's no sun, and most huemans have become drones, their spirits / souls are contained by an artificial intelligence system, which has personalities that interface with society (if you could call it that). Human civilization is a thing of the past, where only a few remain to remember it. The government, which is now completely automated and out of our influence, prohibits unauthorized reproduction, and most babies are created outside the body (I saw a petri dish of some kind). But if these children are not licensed, a machine comes along and snatches it up, digesting it. Weird eh?

I was a fugitive, running with my child, and someone else I couldn't see, and not even sure they had a physical body. Surveillance was everywhere and finally I realized that I could only run for so long, since everywhere seemed to lead to lead to nowhere. I stopped running, and got very angry. When I began confronting these alien devices and intelligence, they stopped coming. I wondered what was happening, but then the dream began to fade....

Mon Dieu.... I wish I could control my dreams like Brother God Metasaience... but during the daytime I seem to walk with another world, a peaceful vibrant place. At night time, it's flip side seems to grab my attention... hmf, back to the lab....

p.p.s - thank you for your permission Brother Meta, I will show you the site and the book once complete

Beloved Goddess Miss Lady- I know we both have such powerful experiences- and if it were up to others, we'd share the same madhouse. I guess it's the same for anyone that views reality from an angle the majority does not. I was in an astral school a few nights back and it seems everyone has allot of complaints about how we behave on this planet. I've given up trying to defend earth's natives.

The classes I am in deal with allot of spiritual science and technology, things that I would never expect to be remembering are becoming clearer and clearer. On top of all of it, I'm getting "broken in" because I am told here on earth we are educated to think irrationally, which makes us stupid to the obvious. And irrationality is the supreme enemy to the higher sciences. I've heard it time and time again just how irrational we are, and it's because of this we can't think past phase one. Phase one is when we acknowledge how we came into existence and into consciousness. How we deal with phase one determines how we relate to everything else.

I made the terrible mistake of channeling certain high Gods such as Anubis to deal with questions that appeared irrational from their view. It took some time to understand why questions about death were irrational to a spirit. And then a big 'Duh' hit me. But you see- that's how we think. Some people reading that won't get it either. The common answer to phase one is that we came into existence and consciousness because those that loved themselves duplicated themselves. From the perspective of Higher Gods/Goddesses the love for self is the source of all rationality and power, without it nothing makes sense. It's from this position that I've learned to address my Teachers in the spirit realm and astral realms.

You have to declare that it's because of your love for self that you are seeking a return, and to remember you overall truth. It seems irrational to them that we are doing things to reinforce our pain or victim mentality. A love for self says there is nothing you can do to me that I could not find a way to get over. The Ancestors have also told me that Africa is the heart of the world, the more we understand about the heart chakra, the more we will understand about real African power- and how "You and I can conquer the World" as Stevie Wonder said.

The barbarians believe themselves to be controllers of this planet are not the reason for love songs on the radio. We are. Love is a focal point on this planet because of Black power and emotional intelligence. What we still haven't realized is that this power is what we used to create cultures and season the planet, and not war and military might. And as the Ancestors have told me so long as some of us continue along that path we will continue to fail. Love is a raw abundant energy that powerful beings from different realms emit back and forth to each other in a call and response fashion.

Damaged minds/hearts cannot perform this act. Part of my irrationality deprogramming deals allot with manhood, because we assume manhood doesn't vibe well with "love" as it appears to be mainly feminine in nature. The "love for self" frequency is different for males and females. Men have a love for duty, strength and honor. We love being able to accomplish what most cannot. These are the variables that drive men to be builders and architects.

Now what Men in the physical world must realize is that there are an unlimited amount of beings and Ancestors in the different realms that watch us and support us when we are performing the roles of manhood that are communicated using that love frequency. It explains why some of us along a magician's path find information so easily. We block this energy with our consciousness also, which can lead to further suffering. Our Ancestors did not put us here to suffer, nor did we animate ourselves here to suffer. Suffering just happens to be a part of creation for those that do not remember their origin of abundance. Something we cannot remember if we continue to engage our minds in certain paradigms of irrationality.

Some of the most popular love songs are actually Spirits and Ancestors speaking to us and us speaking back, it is a call and response between beings of higher consciousness Listen carefully to the lyrics of "You are Not Alone" - originally this was a song written by R. Kelly during one of his many spiritual highs.

Wherever we focus our minds is where the power of our hearts will go.
We give our enemies the power of our hearts, which is why they are still so successful- nothing exists without love.
Those who are so passionate about white supremacy, are also giving that paradigm power.
We take power away from something when we learn how to pull of minds away from it, it will vanish or change without our attention to feed it.

I almost missed this post, and my goodness how important it is to what I'm building now. Once you see this you will overstand. I was arguing with my Spirit, telling my guides they must be crazy if they expected me to market "LOVE" in this day and age. Their reply to me was: "That's what you came here to do". Well, I am still feeling a bit nervous about the whole thing, but I recognize that as a form of excitement, so that's alright.

Now, I just have to receive confirmation on two more pieces of the pie and I'm ready to fly! Maybe I can solicit your insight brother Meta: Belief Re-patterning is a muscle testing technique designed to retrieve limiting feelings from the levels of our consciousness, and replace them with positive ideas / emotions. The whole thing is rather simple and efficient. There is no analysis of why we began to think or feel what limits us, only a recognition and release. Should I choose to become a practitioner, it will be a technique that I incorporate for my clients (don't like that word), but when I say "Belief Re-patterning", I sense and sometimes see people put up a defensive wall, an energy of caution and strangeness pervades the words. Also, the originator of the technique is European, and when I suggested to her that I wanted to use the technique to deprogram a Willie Lynch type chip, she said that it would no longer be "Belief Re-patterning", and that I needed to be careful not to focus on the energy I wanted to dispel, only focus on what I wanted to create.

I'm not confident yet that the ancestors are behind my continuing this path.... any suggestions on how to be sure? My answers seem clouded by my own impatience

http://www.beyond-the-pale.co.uk/St.Christopher.jpg

Yes Goddess Alex, I was sent a list once of all the different Deities and Gods that Anubis is depicted as or was changed into. In my astral classes they tell me that when something is real it echoes. This also means that a entirely different people can see a God in their dreams, or psychic sensative people like artists will see them and paint them- not realizing that God/Goddess has already been depicted by another culture. Sometimes these things are not always done on purpose like the Greeks did. Another very interesting thing about Anubis, is that Whites respond to his image in a very strange way- especially if a Black person is wearing him.

The first thing we can realize about the wolf/dog/jackal is they are very protective of those they consider family. It is not the human adopting the dog, but the dog adopting the human. As in- I need to protect you because obviously you don't know what the h-- you are doing. Meaning- they can see living realms we can't and are especially known for being able to guide us to where we need to be. The jackal especially is known for it's ability to detect the edible part in dead old rotting meat. So the jackal head itself- as a technology for the mind/consciousness is one's ability to detect the useful from the wasteful. This is also why Lord Anpu is a judge of the heart. How blocked up the heart chakra is, also determines how will we are able to navigate certain realms even when we are asleep.

Haven't we heard that "home" is where the heart is?

Goddess Phynxofkmt - I've had dreams like that as well. And unfortunately it's already taking place. But this is what some of us live for, those of us addicted to the material realms, we've been looking for these metallic immortal bodies for awhile now. Not realizing we will again become slaves to those bodies. The human body is immortal too but we found a way to botch that up as well. But that world is for these newer beings coming into this realm, most of us are tired and will move on- only the fools will get stuck in that paradigm by then we should've all figured out what we needed to figure out. Hopefully.

Belief Re-patterning would definitely change the world, our Ancestors want us to be able to treat our bodies and brains in the same way we treat technology- understanding that they are materials that we are using for certain tasks. Some beliefs are passed on genetically and we inherit them while others are retained in soul memory and we bring them into this realm with us. I would personally love to see more Black Women in the fields of mental programming and neurosciences. Many Black Women are and don't realize it, they are not conscious of it and so there can be a misuse of their abilities.

In a nutshell.

http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/wells/0612_mnipix/renell.jpg

Now ask any Sistah to explain as clearly as possible why she doesn't want just anybody playing in her hair and we'd understand somewhat why the brain responds so well to female hands. Some of the top reiki professionals in the world are Women of color. Brothas always notice when their Woman has changed, so we might ask something like - "who were you talking too"- we should also ask "who did your hair" because in most cases without realizing it the beautician is responsible.

Your Ancestors have placed you on a very critical path for this age, indeed you've already realized this.The love frequency would be the best energy to use in re-programming the brain and opening the heart chakra. I've know people to make a complete 360 when dealing with a practitioner that really knew what he or she was doing.

Peace God TY,


I agree the relationship is a mutual one also, depending on who you're dealing with. Some beings it seems, don't want anything to do with us, until we get back to our former mindstates, as being the real gods. When I think about it, it makes sense, most of my questions really are irrelevant to them, but the ones I have come in contact with inspire through other means, usually symbols, and aha experiences. I know this differs with each individual thoughI fully concur with you; in particular what you say about former mindstates; that you even have an audience is still an achievement; I think I have been snubbed because I am not mature enough, took me a minute to realise what this meant but now that I do, I am working on it.


Peace God MS,

Thank you for the responses.

I have so many questions, so apologies in advance; I actually culled them a few times, so I don’t mind at all if you cannot answer all of them.

I've learned that there are many types of consciousness, just as there are many ways to create frequency waves or music. You can play a dream beat from a drum, or you can play a drum beat electronically. Anubis as a Deity has a mastery over technology and electronics. The different Deities that we speak of are godheads or goddessheads of different types of consciousness. And we all fit into different houses when it comes to that. That might explain some of the zodiac as well.Is there any way you could possibly expound on this further? I personally tend to gravitate towards Deities that deal with healing and protection, only because the environment, and indeed the people around me constantly require healing and or protection (Incidentally, they tend to be women). Is this a case of what came first? The chicken or the egg i.e. is my consciousness as a result of my circumstances or in-spite of it?


Another very interesting thing about Anubis, is that Whites respond to his image in a very strange way- especially if a Black person is wearing him.*
Heh. Do tell please God MS, how do Caucasians respond?


How blocked up the heart chakra is, also determines how will we are able to navigate certain realms even when we are asleep.
Interesting.* I know mine is blocked, and could explain why I struggle to experience astral projection/lucid dreaming.

I would personally love to see more Black Women in the fields of mental programming and neurosciences. Many Black Women are and don't realize it, they are not conscious of it and so there can be a misuse of their abilitiesI fully agree with you. I personally am a firm believer of EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique)Tapping http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i33V2EcVlY, which the God Rudra also recommends as an effective method of unblocking chakras.


Pps - once you have fully settled re: the Anubis (Anpu) experience, and if you so happen to do a sketch of Him, please, if you can, do share it. Thank ye!


Ppps - Sometime in the future will you be doing a post exclusively about Goddess Dieties? If so, I can then transfer the posts you’ve done on the clay bowl and crystal device.

Thanks!

Alexandra

Goddess Alex, as I mentioned before most Goddesses are all about nurturing, healing and doing things to extend the longevity of the body. If it is true that "as a man thinketh so is he" - that process of thinking, the ability itself is based on our consciousness, how we see and relate to reality.

Our Deities are designed as symbols that represent certain levels of consciousness as well as the realms that can be attained when we keep those Deities 'in mind." A good example of this is in the story I heard about a little boy about 5-6 years old saved his baby Sister from getting hit by a car.

She was about 2, and somehow wandered off in the street during a family gathering. The little boy ran out after her and saved her just moments from a truck with a driver that was probably too high off the ground to even see the little baby. Onlookers caught a glimpse of what happened, they said the boy ran out like superboy lifted his Sister onto his shoulders and jumped unto the sidewalk and yelled out "ta-da!!" as if he had just performed a magic trick. Later on after all the hoopla had died down, he was asked what as running through his mind at the time. He said he taught he was the Hulk.

Now, while this seems like a dangerous idea- in truth it is, the act is actually very natural, the concept of the Hulk possessed the boy long enough for him to save his Sister. The Hulk also represents a consciousness that is very Human and masculine dealing with how Men relate to the situations that require strength, power and aggression- yet also most zero thought process. The hulk is more emotional than he is intelligent.

As a Man/Woman thinketh. We can ask ourselves what are we modeling our consciousness after and this would also help us to understand our dreams and astral abilities. When someone does something out of the box, what do we ask them? --Who do you think you are? In the day of the Ancients we may say- I am Heru. I am Isis. I am Nowa. I am Oya. It is only now -luckily- that we are starting to claim we are Gods or Goddesses, but our Ancients would still ask. Which one? Which God or Goddess are you claiming to be, is it one based on your own design or on another template? And what are the attributes of this God? What realms does this God rule or master? And what elements in this world does this God/Goddess command? The prompt answer to those in actuality is what proves one's knowledge of Godhood.

Mauby is a popular drink for those of us with Caribbean connections and blood, it has a very strong taste, somewhat like bitters and rootbeer mixed. It's made from a bark called buckthorn. Mauby is actually a healing liquid with allot of very powerful metaphysical properties as well. In fact all dark drinks and colas were first invented and designed by Africans by this guidance of different Deities and especially the Goddesses. We know this from our ancient tongue -as most names that with begin with "Ma" are speaking about a feminine Goddess element.

Mauby is kin to most Goddesses of Africa including Mbaba of the Zulus- who is said to be responsible for teaching them how to make beer. Such drinks help to capture a certain frequency that represents the Deity and entity that created it. A bath is real beer will leech toxins out the body. Beer is a medicine. Mauby is a medicine. Even Guinness is used as such. Most of the dark drinks of Africa are actually medicines. But they were drank socially as a way to extend life. Know also that by drinking these substances we are channeling the energy of it's creator into our beings. Thus- most alcohols are also called spirits.

In order to truly understand the role of Gods and Goddesses as well as the realms they control, we must take a truly honest look at Manhood and Womanhood and why the consciousness of Men are directed towards certain things and why the consciousness of Women directed towards something else. Sure there are variations here and there as well as some neutralities on certain levels- but overall there are clear concerns between us. The best Men and Women to study are the Elders.

It may shock us to know something that should actually be obvious when we think about the spirit realm. What Woman is pushing babies out of her womb in the realm of spirits? None. Such characteristics are only for the physical and material world. There are allot of confusions here as well, which might explain why there are some that claim to be born in the wrong bodies. In the realm of spirit, what makes one Male and the other Female? The conscious, their library of experiences and emotions and how those experiences and emotions are processed. To one degree there is no gender while in another gender is not based on the same principles that are based in the physical world. So a Goddess/God in many cases is not what we assume them to be. But this is only what I've managed to gather so far, someone else might explain it differently.

Let's look at our language, what is it to "father a child" and to "mother a child?" Mothering as I've mentioned before is nurturing, to mother a child is to nurture and love that child. To father a child is to create and bring that child into existence. Interesting.

http://pastorcharles.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/geppetto-creates-pinocchio.jpg

This is a very accurate description of what a "God" is within the spirit realm.
So if Anubis is a God, and he says to me- I am going to make you into a Master of Spiritual Technology- what does that mean? Let's look at the image of Pinocchio and his inventor again. Does this mean I am without freewill as a God myself? No. But it does mean I have submitted myself to a realm wherein Anubis is the Lord. As well, I have opened myself up to that frequency of consciousness. He is then granted the power to re-create me on at level that "fathers" and creates his intent.

As Men get older, they become more inclined to the building of things- this is why many of us retire to our garages or places of mental or physical building.
This is the accurate description of Male energy within the spirit world. The Fathers.

The Goddesses on the other hand preserves those bodies. Where do we normally find our Elder Women as they get older?

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Gardening, dealing with the soil and earth, dealing with herbs etc., making medicines, healing-she becomes concerned with the sustaining of life. The sustaining of life comes from the Mother. The Goddess and God are manifestations of the immortal mind and consciousness. They are forever, one complimenting the other.

When we understand how and why these two go back and forth with each other- ie one calls- the other responds- then we can also build a clear concept of the astral and spirit realms and how each Deity is like a key that unlocks the gateway into those realms.

Is Jesus fed more feminine energy or more masculine energy? Definitively more feminine energy because Women believe Jesus is the cure for ignorant non-emotional and barbaric Manhood. She can leave her children with Jesus and not worry about coming home and finding them sold into slavery. Many have reported seeing Jesus in the astral realms, yet you can tell the true natural of any astral Deity by the nature of their concerns. This is also how you can tell what realms they have mastered.

Thus any Deity still concerned with the earth, is still attached to the earth- sad but true. If we are engaging with certain Deities through dreams, astral projection, meditation etc., we need to listen very closely to what they are speaking about and trying to help us remember. If that Deity is concerned about the earth that Deity is still attached to it and may exist is a realm just on the outskirts of our physical world. Now- if a Deity is speaking about your physical body, or your mind- that in general is different because they may be preparing you for your eventual ascension.

We can know this- again- by studying the true relationship between Men and Women God and Goddess. The meat and potatoes of all things. When we understand this relationship we understand the truth. Can a Man have sex with a Woman he has offended? Or must he he enchant her first before he is allowed to enter into her realm? Why is that process of entering so connected to her emotional rules? It is how she is organized, how she self-creates. To disturb that is to disturb her universe entire.

Just as a drink can contain the consciousness of a Deity, the Deity contains the consciousness of it's originator- either the Father or Mother. So we are told we cannot enter into heaven until some emotional requirements are served, in the self same way a Man in not allowed into a Woman until certain emotional requirements are served. See how that works? God is indeed the feminine then, the amount of energy that has gone into those principles- at least from this realm and planet is feminine. This is the position of modern day religions, but the majority of spiritual traditions in the world serve both the God and Goddess.

We Father for the Gods and we Mother for the Goddesses, thus the astral realms ruled by such entities are always different. The higher the realm- the more sustained the relationship between the God and Goddess is, the lower the realm the more unstable that relationship is. We are taught to speak to much about the Father as God in modern religions, and too much about the Mother Goddess in ancient religions- it is actually the mutual creation of the two that sparked reality to being with, while the Dark Mother does sustain the world, she sustains it because of the Dark Lords that fathered it to being with. She is in love. And until we learn to respect that, we will always be limited between realms.

As far as wearing Anubis, Whites always seem to be in a trance around me if I am wearing a pendant fashioned after him. I feel as if I am giving off a certain frequency that effects them, or it could be that it's not a Christian cross so it's scary for them.

*emerges from the shadows*


Good enlightening post DG Meta.....always you bring the thunda....literally

The DarkMagician GeorgeM Emerges! I've emerged again also- I've been doing allot of very intense channels today, my body has been radiating heavily because I'm been talking about the astrals so much- those on the otherside are very exited about the information. Goddess Basset appeared to me very crystal clear and told me she can be used for those of us trying to tap into the astral realms. She will teach you.

http://www.fantasy-goddess-art.com/images/bast.jpg

I saw her after another astral viewing of Anubis, who has been asking me to build a staff like his for awhile now- he's very serious about this staff. I'm still surprised somewhat by who clearly I am seeing some of these beings, even those that I am paying no attention too at all. But after reading some of these interesting links, I'm understanding more about myself and why here and now.

http://www.templeoftheancients.org/sumer/afterlife.php
http://www.maat.sofiatopia.org/heka.htm

I've learned that many realms, even this realm- exist in order to allow us to change, transform, reinforce or destroy our level of consciousness and understanding. All realms are prepared as a living space for the mind, a training ground for the soul.

In this day and age we wouldn't identify clearly with Deities with animal attributes not as our Ancients did, not even as superheroes because our non-physical principles of today are more about devotion and worship, than magickal ability and spiritual mastery. This again is a sign of what realm our minds are assigned too, we worship what is above and what is below. But we can only "be" what is within, and it is what is within that makes us who we are.

If mankind continues to retard and degrade, in the years beyond 2050- if we make it, a freestyle rapper will be considered a Magician. Someone that has the ability to rhyme words off the top of their heads and create whole songs without writing them down (Biggie died with over 5 songs in his head) will be a great anomaly worthy of study by those who will assume they are practicing magic in this future world. Magic to them because why? They've lost knowledge of the craft. But let's say these curious minds have the ability to tap into certain astral and spirit realms- enough so they can speak with members in our timeline that have mastered the ability of freestyling. The mistake they will make, the same mistake we all can make- is referring to such abilities as magic or supernatural.

As I've come to understand, allot of what we consider "magic" for our ancients is actually overly romanticized and inaccurate. Yes our Ancient Magicians understood what they were doing was above the norm, but the translation from soul to soul and realm to realm is different. So many of us are calling up these Ancients and saying to them- show me your magick tricks- and are met with failure. The correct translation is show me your art, as such magicians and magicks were formed as a culture. Every true artist in the past and future believes themselves to be doing something above the norm anyway. What we sometimes believe to be mysteries and secrets- basically boil down too- you wouldn't believe nor understand if I told you, because you are not part of my culture of artistry.

If we begin to look at our Ancients as well as esoteric knowledge from that angle then we being to see things more clearly. And it's from this level that we can understand the true heart of a creator is the artistic heart and mind in a bond of love. So when we hear reports like- I went into an astral realm and it was just like the earth. Or- I had a near death experience and I saw light and rainbows etc, or fields darkness and water. Guess what. All realms are created by artists, all realms are illusions. There is no- this realm is an illusion because it is filled with light, or this realm is not an illusion because it is filled with darkness. All of them- are illusions. Real is the mind, and can be based on a comparison between what is known and unknown- what is put together properly and what is thrown together lazily.

Now are we reach the higher realms we find less and less creations that fed the objective and subjective dimensions of how we create our reality. You are pure emotion and energy, and yet more aware of how and why we create illusions-Illustrations of the mind. Believe it or not many of us came into the world because we believed the spirit world is the illusion and the physical world is real. Some of us are addicted to judgment and death, material living has become our artform.

Anyone can throw paint on a canvas and call themselves a painter. But to be in league with painters, one has to be qualified as such through mastery. Artists are qualified by those that commission them. We are all commissioned into the world for different reasons. This is always based on our mastery and not on practice. Some of us are here practicing, and we've been practicing so long that can't even recognize our mastery when we dream about them. Practice in the physical world if it not about remembering who we are, it's more about trying to become something that we were not here to be. This is because in the astral and spirit realm we don't learn to become anything, we just become it.

Goddess Basset appeared to me very crystal clear and told me she can be used for those of us trying to tap into the astral realms. She will teach you.Nice one God MS. I appreciate that you’ve mentioned Goddesses deal with healing, nurturing etc numerous times before, but it was always in broad, general statements given the context of the post, so I am pleased the Dark Goddess Basset came through with that specific bit of information. How exciting!! Thank you so much.

The first link is quite interesting.

Alexandra

Thank You.


I have a question--I hope you are familiar with such experiences as I want to describe...and can comment about what such dream processes might mean. All of my life I've deeply dreaded dreaming... ANY dreaming. As a child, I didn't ever want to dream because when I woke up I would be absolutely exhausted! It would be so frustrating! I would essentially go from a dreamless state to what felt like two or three minutes worth of vivid activity in my dream and then I'd abruptly wake up. HOURS would have actually passed from the time that I'd originally gone to bed and fallen asleep, so...I came to resent a couple of funky minutes worth of dreaming that would leave me feeling so tired that I sometimes felt queasy for a few hours afterward. If I woke during the early morning dark, then I could never fall back to sleep. I'd mentally recycle the same dream sequences over and over, while trying to understand them.

This situation changed for me around age 12-13. Abruptly, I practically stopped dreaming altogether! This lasted at least for the next three years. What started happening, instead, is that I'd experience powerful blackouts--maybe one or two blackouts each week over the next 3 years. Most blackouts went to pitch black (instead of a swift darkening and narrowing of my field of vision), felt painful and frightening to go through, and each blackout incident would last maybe 20-40 seconds and then clear up. Pain-discomfort gone. Also, I went through the experience of being able to predict which shows would come on tv ahead of time. I'd simply think of a movie that I liked and wanted to see again, and within a day or two it would be on tv. I'd do my shazaam predictions like magic tricks for my sibs--they thought my ability was great! Truth was, it was fun to be able to do (and frightening...something I could never admit to).

When I turned 15 years old, I began to experience crystal clear, minutely detailed deja vu--and the deja vu were obvious 'snapshot moments' from the then 'rare dreams' that I had had from age 12 or so to age 15! I found that I had perfect recall as to where I was (the house I lived in and the year (month or season) that I'd dreamed)--my family moved three times during those three years. Absolutely perfect deja vu which 'never' made sense when I originally dreamed the snapshot (situations utterly new and unfamiliar to me), but by the time the deja vu occurred, I was precisely where I needed to be (another city and state) for such snapshots to be possible, so...

From age 15 until age 30, I might have 2-3 deja vu establishing dreams per year. No more than that. With each dream, I'd meticulously mentally reconstruct as much detail as I could cleanly recall. I'd even do an affixing of *associated date/season of year/location* for each dream I'd have had, and from that point, I'd take heart that no matter what happened between that 'now' and the future, I'd still be alive and kicking to experience that deja vu somewhere down the line. It just occurred to me--after a day or so, I *forget* the details of my rare dreams. I forget until it's time to remember.

But by age 30, my experiences with dreams have changed. From then to now (I'm 53 years old), I will have the rare deja vu dream, but sometimes, I dream of past events. This hasn't happened often, but it happens when it does--know what I mean? They are usually quite traumatic, true historical events--and I'll know something about such events, but from watching the news accounts. Also (thanks to details in my dreams) I 'confirm' awareness that linear time and events that are said to happen at a specific point in time are 'illusionary'. Truth is, there are *gaps of missing, linear time* that nobody I know is consciously aware of. For example, I know of three missing days FOR EVERYBODY, everywhere (I'm assuming) which happened between April 28 and May 1, 2002. All that I could think to do when I learned of this missing time is multiply 6 billion x 3 (approx. number of humans on this planet x 3 days). I told myself, "IF each person is missing 3 days worth of time, and I multiply that by 6 billion, then there's 18 BILLION DAYS worth of *cumulative* human experience unaccounted for! Q: WHERE DID THAT TIME GO? WHO NEEDED THAT TIME, AND FOR WHAT PURPOSE???

Offhand, what else can I do with such knowledge? With no sensible direction with which to make sense of what I learned, I tried to glean what I could. Convert 18 billion days into years and then divide by 25,920 (one earth precessional)? How many precessional years does that equal? What is the significance? Sometimes, I feel like a scrap heap of miscellaneous stuff!

Since I reached age 30 or so, my life's been FILLED with such observations, confirmations, and I can only churn out myriad WHAT IF-questions to go along with these details.

Anyhow, there a great deal that I've not mentioned in this first post--and I am sure I need to receive some kind of instruction that will allow me to better integrate much that I have become privvy to. In the meantime, I hope you do realize how grateful I feel to have read this post, as I long ago realized that 'No...I am not crazy....but I am untutored.'

One Love, and PEACE

DarkGoddess Alex- I am not finished with your questions yet, just trying to cycle out some this information they are projecting at me. The Ex made it back, but she seems to be in a much better mood.

Fieldpea- so many of us are untutored scrap heaps of miscellaneous stuff. But thankfully for people like yourself that share and report their experiences, many others can confirm that are in fact very normal, sane and most importantly- awake. The awakening process is different for everyone, and usually it's something that is triggered in our dreamstate.

It takes place in cycles, normally cycles of 7 and no more than that. At the very dawn or peak of the 7th cycle is when those who are awake and becoming more conscious start to recover and record some very interesting changes in their mental and psychic development. In your case it was around 12-13, that would be the dawn of your 14th birthday. I know people that can't remember anything beyond their 7th birthday and that's because those memories are locked out for whatever reason. So people do the same with their dreams.

This is because the knowledge of those dreams would effect their timeline. This is true for people that dream the future, or to say it more accurately- those who have access to dimensions that observe the future of this timeline. There was a time when I was younger that I could predict every word that would come out a person's mouth at least half of a second before they spoke. I realized as I got older while this seemed like psychic feat at first it is actually based on the illusion of linear time.

It takes a certain measure of time for light and sound to travel into the brain, thus we are always living in the past. Reality is not something that is happening, it is something that has already happened. The other part to that is, the subconscious and magickal part of our being- is like a serpent wrapped around our entire lifetime, like a snake wrapped around an egg. When you are able to predict what shows come on the television, it is your own lifetime that you are pulling that information from. We are coiled around space and time and can select information from it, it will feel as if we are in fact "producing" reality, but usually- a part of our being has a very intimate relationship with all time and space. It is an amazing ability to have once we learn how to control our attention.

In 1999, if they wanted too- many conscious people could've wrote a letter to the Government saying if the Government did not change their ways, they would cause two planes to fly into the twin towers. Of course those people would go to prison, but 9-11 wouldn't have happened, especially if the information went public. Because even though all those Psychic people did was see the future, they would've pull a plan into awareness, and the future is always changing because of Psychics that bring certain futures into awareness. That is the role some awakened people play in this Universe. The goal however, is to find cunning ways to do those jobs without getting arrested.

Black outs seem to be common with those that are able to access certain futures and realms. Black outs are also a way some people were trained to prevent possessions from entities that may be trying to use their bodies and minds to access this timeline. Another cause is a psychic energy rush. It's like when a whole sphere is energy hits you all at once, the brain shuts down in order to sort everything out.

I'm also certain the missing time phenomenon happens collectively, as well as individually. This is possible by tampering with the earth's electromagnetic pulse, which certain entities are know to do. It's possible to put the entire planet to sleep by doing this. Yet there will still always been some that will be left awake. But if this was in fact done, in that period of missing time something was changed. It could've been for a positive or negative reason- as only the beings with those abilities would really know.

DarkGoddess Alex- I am not finished with your questions yet, just trying to cycle out some this information they are projecting at me. The Ex made it back, but she seems to be in a much better mood.

You aren't? woot! I look forward to reading more God. Lol@much better mood. Good to know she is still around :). What I wouldn't give though to hear what she went through though during her timeout..sighs.

Fildpea - if you haven't already done so, I highly recommend that you read Malidoma's book 'Of water and the spirit'. I think it would be of some use to you.


Alexandra

I appreciate the recommend, and I'll do so very, very soon.


One Love, and PEACE

DarkGoddess Alex- these days because of the spiritual technologies that I am building I have to be very careful about calling up certain names or even speaking about them because I may accidentally summon something or someone unconsciously. Dealing with Anubis is like dealing with the "GodFather" I really don't like speaking about him because then he starts mentioning things that I am supposed to be doing.

But I would much rather deal with Anubis than some of the Goddesses that I've run into already. I've mentioned a few before- but their names aren't that clear for me to recall. One female I believe is my Ancestor and maybe not a Deity perse. But she is very aggressive and harsh when she speaks. Demanding in fact. I may not know her by name but if I think about her vibration she shows up.

I wanted to say something very important about powerful spiritual people, those who study and master the occult, metaphysics, the psychic abilities etc.

Yes they do in fact amass a great deal of power in the spirit realm as well. But it's like a celebrity living in the hood. People knock on your door 24-7. Why? Because you're a celebrity, you have money and you have something everyone wants- fame. And also because you're been well loved. So celebrities have to leave the hood, it's a security issue. They have to go somewhere were common folks will not bother them.

Now people who work behind the scenes don't have to worry about that. Oprah's producers can live anywhere they want, and some of them have a substantial amount of wealth too. But no one sees them. This is key. So such people who are not in front of the camera don't have fame and the limelight to compromise their security.

It appears to be exactly like that in the astral and spirit realms. The more power you emit openly the more of a celebrity you are. You will never rest. Never. Unless you hide. And unless you ascend to the point where everyone around you in your realm is just like you. And most of us don't like that. We enjoy the celebrity, we enjoy being different. Remember I mentioned before going all the way to the source and being disappointed because everyone was exactly the same? It reminded me of Star Trek's Borg race. Just copies of copies. And certain we are, but no one wants do give up their differences for divinity do they?

And it seems like going all the way back to the source is a choice, you don't have too- there are enough realms created and uncreated to suffice for infinity. But it's just an idea that most souls want to fulfill. But this return to the source helped me to understand why perfection is properly the reason most of us are here. Perfection is actually very boring. A relationship between a Man and a Woman, no spice, no differences, no hint of rebellion? Boring. Where is the perfect Woman? Where else would she be but single? Perfection is always left alone.

Ascension doesn't necessarily take us back to the source, which is the one mind/one soul - universal consciousness. Ascension takes us to where like souls dwell, or to a place where a larger majority of our loved ones exist. The nucleus of our being tells us exactly where we will go, and that's the heart.

We go to those that vibrate the same frequencies as we do- right from the center unit of our being. This area governs over our highest emotions. The thing about celebrities is that people fall in love with them. And this is mainly the reason they are not left alone. Even their critics are in love with them. So what very powerful spiritual people have to learn to do in the after-life often times is become something else, or else they run the risk of being worshiped and made into supreme Gods/Goddesses especially in lower realms. You can still be a powerful person and end up in a lower realm because it's something you've become accustomed too, like earth. Either way it's a choice.

Why do higher beings come to the earth in the first place?
Bored to tears perhaps.

Goddess Basset appeared to me very crystal clear and told me she can be used for those of us trying to tap into the astral realms. She will teach you.

bro MetaSaience I'm fairly new to this, How do I ask her to teach me

Goddess Basset appeared to me very crystal clear and told me she can be used for those of us trying to tap into the astral realms. She will teach you.

bro MetaSaience I'm fairly new to this, How do I ask her to teach me

Dv-8,

I know you addressed God MSaience, but if it helps, find out her sacred plant, obtain the incense version of it and burn it while meditating on Her name - (see below). Also, if you can, obtain a statue of the Goddess, which must be made of natural material i.e not Resin, because its not a good conductor of energy.

Her Name;

Vibrate the Goddess's name MAU BAST

MMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAUUUUUUU BBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAASSSSSSTTTTTTT

Go to youtube and google LBRP, which stands for Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram; it'll better illustrate what I mean by vibrating a name.

Something should happen about soon after you start chanting MAU BAST but if it does not, don't fret, just keep trying and you'll soon get Her attention.

Best wishes,

Alexandra

Dv-8, I've found several different methods so far and Goddess Alex offered a very powerful method. For me because I visualize so well and I meditate, I can capture the image of a Deity and speak to them directly in my mind during a semi trance state. Otherwise I would use a drawing, image, sculpture and then find the proper invocation to summon them.

I didn't method that when I saw the Goddess Bastet, she was sitting on a throne, soaking her feet in water and pouring sea salt over it.
Later on, I assumed her image was triggered by a thought I had about the scene in the movie "Constantine" where he places his feet in water and stares into the eyes of a black cat in order to cross over into hell. That was astral traveling too.

But what she was really showing me was a basic astral body cleansing. And it does work remarkable well.

I also learned a basic self-hypnosis technique to place myself in a near catatonic state right before going off into the astral. I was told that doing this helps us to identify consciously the different because the conscious self and the esoteric/astral body. During this state you can actually do allot of programming- you can give your physical brain/body commands. It's a technique that would really put psychiatrists out of business. This is the same method Edgar Cayce used to tap into the Universe.

I went back to that gray castle I saw in in dream, but I did it consciously- just before going to sleep. I visualized it. I relaxed myself in if preparing for meditation. I found myself inside one of the castle's tower, on the very top level. I was standing at the foot of a spiraling staircase. As I walked down the staircase I counted backwards, each step is a number, taking me lower and lower into the tower- 10, 9, 8, 7- you keep a count for each step, even if you reach 1, and are still fully conscious you start over, allowing your breathe to relax and your body to become more limp. You breathe in a relaxed meditative state- counting backwards for each step you take. By the time you reach at the very bottom of the tower, within it's darkness you should be in a full trance state. You will feel very catatonic, and even feel a vibration around your body. Yet a part of your being will be conscious of what is going on. Within this state you can get rid of allot of programming that has been placed in you. But most importantly you can also set the destination for where you want to astral or dream. You can summon people to you from the other side, and you can also find out allot of answers by directing your intent.

Jonathan Womack - There and Back: Adventures on the Astral Plane 2 of 5
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Queen Spiritree41...she is something else.
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Astral projection is a wonderfull way to learn and elevate. However. I am troubled by the title of this thread. I hope that everyone understands that the astral plane is only one "level" removed from our earthly plane, and is not where you want to be after death. You want to reach much higher. The astral is full souls who didn't/don't understand this and do mot therefore elevate to higher planes. Also in the astral are losers who like being there in order to mess with you. playfully, or with ill intent. It takes some instruction to be able to "feel" if an entity is the real deal or an imposter, to feel their energy. Of course you can encounter higher beings, teachers who come down to the astral to meet you, and who can, when you are ready, show you the way to other worlds beyond the astral. So i encourage ya'll to keep projecting, hopefully with caution and guidance. ase,

But please understand that when you die, you want to leave the physical planes and search for the highest reaches. If you develop a relationship on the astral with a true teacher, then at death they can meet you and help you on the journey to elevation. I make this post in all humbleness. i don't think I'm smarter or better than anyone else. i hope y'all don't take it the wrong way.

dino

Astral projection is a wonderfull way to learn and elevate. However. I am troubled by the title of this thread. I hope that everyone understands that the astral plane is only one "level" removed from our earthly plane, and is not where you want to be after death. You want to reach much higher. The astral is full souls who didn't/don't understand this and do mot therefore elevate to higher planes. Also in the astral are losers who like being there in order to mess with you. playfully, or with ill intent. It takes some instruction to be able to "feel" if an entity is the real deal or an imposter, to feel their energy. Of course you can encounter higher beings, teachers who come down to the astral to meet you, and who can, when you are ready, show you the way to other worlds beyond the astral. So i encourage ya'll to keep projecting, hopefully with caution and guidance. ase,

But please understand that when you die, you want to leave the physical planes and search for the highest reaches. If you develop a relationship on the astral with a true teacher, then at death they can meet you and help you on the journey to elevation. I make this post in all humbleness. i don't think I'm smarter or better than anyone else. i hope y'all don't take it the wrong way.

dino



I totally agree with you very well said....however I must say that the astral is NOT the first plane after this physical one....it is the etheric plane which is the absolute lowest and there MOST of the low level entities, servitors, etc exist....I said that to say this....what you say is true but on the astral there exist both positive and negative spirits just like here on the physical...this is why I mentioned before that you can perform magick on the astral because although it is indeed a low level plane it is still HIGHER than this physical therefore the vibrations are manipulated easier....

not disagreeing with what you are saying....just a little add on is all

Whatever it is that we would come to understand about the astral experience, must come from "our own" experiences and not opinions about what the astral is or might be. The focus of the thread is to point out that while many people say they do not know where we go when we die, we at least know where we go when we sleep. Same thing. There is no difference. If you know what that statement means, congratulations. There is a lower and higher level to every dimension or realm.

Even heaven has a ghetto.

Whatever it is that we would come to understand about the astral experience, must come from "our own" experiences and not opinions about what the astral is or might be. The focus of the thread is to point out that while many people say they do not know where we go when we die, we at least know where we go when we sleep. Same thing. There is no difference. If you know what that statement means, congratulations. There is a lower and higher level to every dimension or realm.

Even heaven has a ghetto.

True. Which is first second etc. is not important. Experience is the best teacher. But we also learn from people who have the experience, and thus we give weight to their opinions. There is a difference between death and sleep! That is the whole point of my post. I urge travelers to try this: when you go to the astral, ask for help from a master. If you can't feel their energy, they ain't one. If you can get the attention of a true master, she or he will begin your instruction. At some point, he will show you the higher realms. you will then know that sleep and death are not the same. This isn't easy, might take a lifetime. But it is worth it, for seeing the higher planes before death is a gift few receive.

Queen Spiritree41...she is something else.
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Yes, she is something else. She is one of my favorite Youtube people.



Astrologer4U

Awo dino- I understand human nature and how sometimes we try to make a strong point by become disagreeable, but what you are saying might be a conclusion one comes to based upon their experience. Which is fine, that was the point of my statement. Now to agree with that, only to continue to implement your own theory is still well understood. After all, that is Human nature too.

What I will point out to you...and hopefully it doesn't take you a lifetime to figure this one out, try for me- if you will- to describe higher realms without using any physical definitions as a reference. If you entertain that challenge, you might just arrive at the same conclusion that I have.

In African spiritual traditions we learn that "we build what we see" or some say "we build what we know" - it is also said that to know thy self, is to have the ability to manufacture yourself (your body) out of anything. This means that it doesn't matter where we are, what level- high or low, we are capable of manufacturing self. IE- life gives us lemons and we make lemonade. One Man's trash is another Man's treasure.

All of these statements deal with our ability to make the best out of anything, any place and any realm. If it were not so, we would not be here. This is why some of us can navigate the underworlds with no problem. I've experience many higher realms, realms that cannot compute inside of human understanding. There are realms of pure love, there are realms of pure spirit. If your statement is- there is a difference between death and sleep- maybe you don't understand the concept here.

The difference between death and sleep is obvious, any corpse can tell us that. We are speaking about how the mind/soul travels during sleep and how the mind/soul travels during death. The destination is the same. The places we go when we go to sleep tonight, is the same exact places we will go when we die. It is- the same.

Hundreds of studies and experiments have already been done to prove this. So now what we should be working on, is where we go during the sleep process. Now does this make sense? The more we work on conscious sleep, and unconscious sleep- the more we grow into awareness of the after-life. Meanwhile what many are now figuring out is that the physical Universe is nothing but a solidified astral plane anyway. Which is why we find so many-Parallel dimensions. This is another reason why this is called "the dream time" - "time" in the spiritual sense means something that has been frozen or solidified.

For many souls in existence, believe it or not the physical world is a higher realm for them. It really depends on each soul's journey. When I was in an astral world composed of nothing but water and oceans as far as the eye could see. Perhaps that was a lower astral realm. But was that a lower astral realm for a fish? Perhaps not. Maybe that was the part of my "self" that I had to experience at that time. We often forget we are multidimensional. Humanoid astral realms are far different from that of spirit beings that look like orbs or planets. Even though we are related and in many cases the same.

What is more important however is that we get over the fear of death and dying period. It has been a concern for a long time even for those that are astral Masters that the astral realms are a trap just this realm. That it's all one long series of illusions. It's still hard for us to see that illusions is what we manifest. It is all illusion, nothing is real but ourselves. This is because we continue to seek the real outside of ourselves. Unless you have navigated the cosmos or the astral in real time, what I will say now will not be understood.

We assume that if we leave the planet Earth we should be able to move in at least four directions. East, west, north or south. We assume this because these are the directions of our 3 dimensional world. We assume the Universe goes on for infinity in every direction, so why aren't their planets in either direction? Because there is only one direction. Regardless of what direction you move in within the cosmos you will only go in one direction, this is true also in many astrals. But this is something we learn from experience. A ball moves in any one direction, as do we.

We are in this realm because this is what we are, this is the direction of our minds. This is how we think, create and work. Literally-this is how we roll. The entire Universe is rolling in one direction, and so are we. This is also important to know when we begin to define what is lower and higher. There is only where we are now, and where we wish to be.


“It is important to do what you don't know how to do. It is important to see your skills as keeping you from learning what is deepest and most mysterious. If you know how to focus, unfocus. If your tendency is to make sense out of chaos, start chaos.” ---Carlos Casteneda

Awo dino- I understand human nature and how sometimes we try to make a strong point by become disagreeable, but what you are saying might be a conclusion one comes to based upon their experience. Which is fine, that was the point of my statement. Now to agree with that, only to continue to implement your own theory is still well understood. After all, that is Human nature too.

What I will point out to you...and hopefully it doesn't take you a lifetime to figure this one out, try for me- if you will- to describe higher realms without using any physical definitions as a reference. If you entertain that challenge, you might just arrive at the same conclusion that I have.

In African spiritual traditions we learn that "we build what we see" or some say "we build what we know" - it is also said that to know thy self, is to have the ability to manufacture yourself (your body) out of anything. This means that it doesn't matter where we are, what level- high or low, we are capable of manufacturing self. IE- life gives us lemons and we make lemonade. One Man's trash is another Man's treasure.

All of these statements deal with our ability to make the best out of anything, any place and any realm. If it were not so, we would not be here. This is why some of us can navigate the underworlds with no problem. I've experience many higher realms, realms that cannot compute inside of human understanding. There are realms of pure love, there are realms of pure spirit. If your statement is- there is a difference between death and sleep- maybe you don't understand the concept here.

The difference between death and sleep is obvious, any corpse can tell us that. We are speaking about how the mind/soul travels during sleep and how the mind/soul travels during death. The destination is the same. The places we go when we go to sleep tonight, is the same exact places we will go when we die. It is- the same.

Hundreds of studies and experiments have already been done to prove this. So now what we should be working on, is where we go during the sleep process. Now does this make sense? The more we work on conscious sleep, and unconscious sleep- the more we grow into awareness of the after-life. Meanwhile what many are now figuring out is that the physical Universe is nothing but a solidified astral plane anyway. Which is why we find so many-Parallel dimensions. This is another reason why this is called "the dream time" - "time" in the spiritual sense means something that has been frozen or solidified.

For many souls in existence, believe it or not the physical world is a higher realm for them. It really depends on each soul's journey. When I was in an astral world composed of nothing but water and oceans as far as the eye could see. Perhaps that was a lower astral realm. But was that a lower astral realm for a fish? Perhaps not. Maybe that was the part of my "self" that I had to experience at that time. We often forget we are multidimensional. Humanoid astral realms are far different from that of spirit beings that look like orbs or planets. Even though we are related and in many cases the same.

What is more important however is that we get over the fear of death and dying period. It has been a concern for a long time even for those that are astral Masters that the astral realms are a trap just this realm. That it's all one long series of illusions. It's still hard for us to see that illusions is what we manifest. It is all illusion, nothing is real but ourselves. This is because we continue to seek the real outside of ourselves. Unless you have navigated the cosmos or the astral in real time, what I will say now will not be understood.

We assume that if we leave the planet Earth we should be able to move in at least four directions. East, west, north or south. We assume this because these are the directions of our 3 dimensional world. We assume the Universe goes on for infinity in every direction, so why aren't their planets in either direction? Because there is only one direction. Regardless of what direction you move in within the cosmos you will only go in one direction, this is true also in many astrals. But this is something we learn from experience. A ball moves in any one direction, as do we.

We are in this realm because this is what we are, this is the direction of our minds. This is how we think, create and work. Literally-this is how we roll. The entire Universe is rolling in one direction, and so are we. This is also important to know when we begin to define what is lower and higher. There is only where we are now, and where we wish to be.


“It is important to do what you don't know how to do. It is important to see your skills as keeping you from learning what is deepest and most mysterious. If you know how to focus, unfocus. If your tendency is to make sense out of chaos, start chaos.” ---Carlos Casteneda

*APPLAUSE*


You articulate many times what I can't....only difference between sleep and death is...at death, the silver cord breaks and you are no longer connected to the physical body....otherwise, its basically the same

Brother metaSaience,
I am not trying to be disagreeable, nor push my own theory on anyone. The construct of planes, etc, the descriptions of higher realms, we try to put into words things that language really can't do. so we settle for descriptions we can relate to. Almost everything you wrote here I agree with, so we are not at opposite ends of an argument. i understand the concept very well. My father taught me astral travel when i was a teenager.
There is only one area in which I disagree, but hey, it's o.k. it might just be a question of semantics. When you say that the place we go in our dreams is the same place we go when we die, I disagree. well let me qualify that that. If you think the place you go in your dreams is the same place you go when you die, then this is true. that's where you will go. You have your experience and your "theory," and I have my experience and my "theory." I would say that if you have ventured into realms of pure love and pure spirit, you have ventured beyond the astral, indeed beyond the physical planes. So this is not astral travel then. If i go to china i wouldn't say i was traveling to columbia. maybe just semantics, or the difficulty in providing descriptions. For you, you have ventured beyond. My point is that some folks might think the astral is all there is, and not find the guidance to go beyond.
My intention was not to get into a debate over who knows more about astral travel. My intention was to inform those travelers who might not understand that there are higher realms than the astral; to plant the seed so they would push themselves, as you have done, to other realms.

ire gbogbo

Awo dino- I understand human nature and how sometimes we try to make a strong point by become disagreeable, but what you are saying might be a conclusion one comes to based upon their experience. Which is fine, that was the point of my statement. Now to agree with that, only to continue to implement your own theory is still well understood. After all, that is Human nature too.

What I will point out to you...and hopefully it doesn't take you a lifetime to figure this one out, try for me- if you will- to describe higher realms without using any physical definitions as a reference. If you entertain that challenge, you might just arrive at the same conclusion that I have.

In African spiritual traditions we learn that "we build what we see" or some say "we build what we know" - it is also said that to know thy self, is to have the ability to manufacture yourself (your body) out of anything. This means that it doesn't matter where we are, what level- high or low, we are capable of manufacturing self. IE- life gives us lemons and we make lemonade. One Man's trash is another Man's treasure.

All of these statements deal with our ability to make the best out of anything, any place and any realm. If it were not so, we would not be here. This is why some of us can navigate the underworlds with no problem. I've experience many higher realms, realms that cannot compute inside of human understanding. There are realms of pure love, there are realms of pure spirit. If your statement is- there is a difference between death and sleep- maybe you don't understand the concept here.

The difference between death and sleep is obvious, any corpse can tell us that. We are speaking about how the mind/soul travels during sleep and how the mind/soul travels during death. The destination is the same. The places we go when we go to sleep tonight, is the same exact places we will go when we die. It is- the same.

Hundreds of studies and experiments have already been done to prove this. So now what we should be working on, is where we go during the sleep process. Now does this make sense? The more we work on conscious sleep, and unconscious sleep- the more we grow into awareness of the after-life. Meanwhile what many are now figuring out is that the physical Universe is nothing but a solidified astral plane anyway. Which is why we find so many-Parallel dimensions. This is another reason why this is called "the dream time" - "time" in the spiritual sense means something that has been frozen or solidified.

For many souls in existence, believe it or not the physical world is a higher realm for them. It really depends on each soul's journey. When I was in an astral world composed of nothing but water and oceans as far as the eye could see. Perhaps that was a lower astral realm. But was that a lower astral realm for a fish? Perhaps not. Maybe that was the part of my "self" that I had to experience at that time. We often forget we are multidimensional. Humanoid astral realms are far different from that of spirit beings that look like orbs or planets. Even though we are related and in many cases the same.

What is more important however is that we get over the fear of death and dying period. It has been a concern for a long time even for those that are astral Masters that the astral realms are a trap just this realm. That it's all one long series of illusions. It's still hard for us to see that illusions is what we manifest. It is all illusion, nothing is real but ourselves. This is because we continue to seek the real outside of ourselves. Unless you have navigated the cosmos or the astral in real time, what I will say now will not be understood.

We assume that if we leave the planet Earth we should be able to move in at least four directions. East, west, north or south. We assume this because these are the directions of our 3 dimensional world. We assume the Universe goes on for infinity in every direction, so why aren't their planets in either direction? Because there is only one direction. Regardless of what direction you move in within the cosmos you will only go in one direction, this is true also in many astrals. But this is something we learn from experience. A ball moves in any one direction, as do we.

We are in this realm because this is what we are, this is the direction of our minds. This is how we think, create and work. Literally-this is how we roll. The entire Universe is rolling in one direction, and so are we. This is also important to know when we begin to define what is lower and higher. There is only where we are now, and where we wish to be.


“It is important to do what you don't know how to do. It is important to see your skills as keeping you from learning what is deepest and most mysterious. If you know how to focus, unfocus. If your tendency is to make sense out of chaos, start chaos.” ---Carlos Casteneda

Awo Dino- I fully understand your point- and yes it is a matter of semantics, definitions and language. Perhaps what you are missing is that this topic is part of a series of conversations and we have already established that the astral realm is one of many. DarkGod GeorgeM already indicated that to you in his reply. Actually I've never heard of anyone that believes the astral realm is the only plane after death, the astral realm just happens to be inbetween the physical and the ethereal.

http://www.worlditc.org/pic_f_1_SpWorldsMapNu.jpg

http://www.worlditc.org/f_01_macy_roadmap_spirit_worlds.htm
At this same link we can read about the Buddha that also believed it should be our goal to move beyond the illusions of the physical and the astral realms.

My point is a spiritual and scientific one, what do we think is producing the astral and physical worlds to begin with? It is the spirit realm.
Most dreams take placed on a subconscious level, a hyperspace level and an astral level. We go where our minds take us, we build what we know. We enter the spirit realm and we can still build our own illusions just the same. The rationale here is not about championing what we believe about higher or lower realms, but what is not known about death. Why do we find just as many spirits living in the astral realms as the higher realms? Again I already gave that answer- we build what we know.

Popular religions have corrupted and diluted the truth about the spirit world. How would we expect anyone to exist in a realm of pure love if they don't even believe or know of pure love? If that is not part of their day to day emotional experience? This is impossible, the mind cannot see or create something it does not understand. The wise have already learned that heaven or hell is a state of mind, or some might say a state of heart- feeling and attitude. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves strong. The amount of work is the same.

Every now and then, an Ex girlfriend of mine that crossed over recently will summon me into her astral heaven. Had me working on a leaky roof just the other day. She has some of the same issues in her heaven as she did in life.
Also in her heaven, living across the street are babies that are always running around naked. I trust that these are the babies that she had aborted.
Now this is not my dream. This is her heaven. I would see allot of things in her heaven that I do not understand because I did not live her life, she did.

In life she was semi-spiritual, but she still held on to traditional Christian beliefs. She never learned how to control the processor, the mind that is creating the illusions- which is something most religions do not teach. When I say we go to the same place when we sleep as we do when we die, I am speaking about the astral realm as the dumping ground for our emotional experiences. It doesn't matter what realm we move on too, it doesn't matter what train we are going to catch, we still have to go through the train station. And because many of us never learn how to deal with our emotional experiences- in life or in the astrals, we never evolve into any higher realms. We remain stuck down here.

What I am saying is this what we should be working on in life. We all have monsters and demons we have to deal with. We have regrets, we have things we are ashamed of, and we are our own judges. We decided when we review our energy where we belong. But we do this all the time, even when we sleep and dream we are judging our emotion experiences. This is how we plan our life path, nothing is a coincidence, everything is planned.

You see the astrals are also a place where we calibrate our minds/lives as well. Even though we may desire it, we cannot enter many Ancestors realms because our minds are not calibrated properly, in a sense we can infect that world with our beliefs/vibrations. At least this is what I am told. If this is not true, it may be that the shedding of the Human experience can be painful as well. Perhaps it is not our minds that require calibration, but we simply need to let go of the holographic concept of ourselves.

If it becomes part of our practice to see ourselves as more than Human, and as more abstract life forms- then it would more sense to the mind when higher vibrations present themselves. That's the catch 22. The spirit world is not the world of the hologram. Being Black and African is still part of a matrix. It's a painful truth, but still the truth. Originally we did not design our spiritual traditions around being Black and African, this became the case because our national identity was being attacked. Many of our Deities are in fact astral, they are handpuppets for the spirit world.

No one dies and sits around trying to decided which realm is higher or lower, they go where they are the happiest, and when they are no longer happy there they leave. They go where their understanding takes them. When we are ready to return to the source, we will. If you are working on your emotional processor, then you have very little to worry about as far as where you are going, you should already know that by the condition of your life.

Yes, I did come in late to the conversation. My bad.

"Why do we find just as many spirits living in the astral realms as the higher realms? Again I already gave that answer- we build what we know."

This statement explains why I was motivated to add my two cents. My belated two cents. lol. Great post, by the way. Beautiful.
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Awo Dino- I fully understand your point- and yes it is a matter of semantics, definitions and language. Perhaps what you are missing is that this topic is part of a series of conversations and we have already established that the astral realm is one of many. DarkGod GeorgeM already indicated that to you in his reply. Actually I've never heard of anyone that believes the astral realm is the only plane after death, the astral realm just happens to be inbetween the physical and the ethereal.

http://www.worlditc.org/pic_f_1_SpWorldsMapNu.jpg

http://www.worlditc.org/f_01_macy_roadmap_spirit_worlds.htm
At this same link we can read about the Buddha that also believed it should be our goal to move beyond the illusions of the physical and the astral realms.

My point is a spiritual and scientific one, what do we think is producing the astral and physical worlds to begin with? It is the spirit realm.
Most dreams take placed on a subconscious level, a hyperspace level and an astral level. We go where our minds take us, we build what we know. We enter the spirit realm and we can still build our own illusions just the same. The rationale here is not about championing what we believe about higher or lower realms, but what is not known about death. Why do we find just as many spirits living in the astral realms as the higher realms? Again I already gave that answer- we build what we know.

Popular religions have corrupted and diluted the truth about the spirit world. How would we expect anyone to exist in a realm of pure love if they don't even believe or know of pure love? If that is not part of their day to day emotional experience? This is impossible, the mind cannot see or create something it does not understand. The wise have already learned that heaven or hell is a state of mind, or some might say a state of heart- feeling and attitude. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves strong. The amount of work is the same.

Every now and then, an Ex girlfriend of mine that crossed over recently will summon me into her astral heaven. Had me working on a leaky roof just the other day. She has some of the same issues in her heaven as she did in life.
Also in her heaven, living across the street are babies that are always running around naked. I trust that these are the babies that she had aborted.
Now this is not my dream. This is her heaven. I would see allot of things in her heaven that I do not understand because I did not live her life, she did.

In life she was semi-spiritual, but she still held on to traditional Christian beliefs. She never learned how to control the processor, the mind that is creating the illusions- which is something most religions do not teach. When I say we go to the same place when we sleep as we do when we die, I am speaking about the astral realm as the dumping ground for our emotional experiences. It doesn't matter what realm we move on too, it doesn't matter what train we are going to catch, we still have to go through the train station. And because many of us never learn how to deal with our emotional experiences- in life or in the astrals, we never evolve into any higher realms. We remain stuck down here.

What I am saying is this what we should be working on in life. We all have monsters and demons we have to deal with. We have regrets, we have things we are ashamed of, and we are our own judges. We decided when we review our energy where we belong. But we do this all the time, even when we sleep and dream we are judging our emotion experiences. This is how we plan our life path, nothing is a coincidence, everything is planned.

You see the astrals are also a place where we calibrate our minds/lives as well. Even though we may desire it, we cannot enter many Ancestors realms because our minds are not calibrated properly, in a sense we can infect that world with our beliefs/vibrations. At least this is what I am told. If this is not true, it may be that the shedding of the Human experience can be painful as well. Perhaps it is not our minds that require calibration, but we simply need to let go of the holographic concept of ourselves.

If it becomes part of our practice to see ourselves as more than Human, and as more abstract life forms- then it would more sense to the mind when higher vibrations present themselves. That's the catch 22. The spirit world is not the world of the hologram. Being Black and African is still part of a matrix. It's a painful truth, but still the truth. Originally we did not design our spiritual traditions around being Black and African, this became the case because our national identity was being attacked. Many of our Deities are in fact astral, they are handpuppets for the spirit world.

No one dies and sits around trying to decided which realm is higher or lower, they go where they are the happiest, and when they are no longer happy there they leave. They go where their understanding takes them. When we are ready to return to the source, we will. If you are working on your emotional processor, then you have very little to worry about as far as where you are going, you should already know that by the condition of your life.

Awo and your two cents is still priceless, because at least you have an awareness beyond most! Personally I enjoy hearing many different opinions about the astral experience.

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