Oh my goodness! This Christianity forum is a wilderness, a barren land!


Why no discussion or bible study in here?

Anybody got a testimony?

How about some praise up in here?

Oh my goodness! This Christianity forum is a wilderness, a barren land!


Why no discussion or bible study in here?

Anybody got a testimony?

How about some praise up in here?

Jump start it. Name the topic.

Oh my goodness! This Christianity forum is a wilderness, a barren land!
Why no discussion or bible study in here?
Where did you get the idea that this is a Christian forum?

Anybody got a testimony?
My testimony ain't glorifying Jesus, so I don't think you'll want to hear it.


How about some praise up in here?
How about some Ancestral Veneration up in here?

Oh my goodness! This Christianity forum is a wilderness, a barren land!


Why no discussion or bible study in here?

Anybody got a testimony?

How about some praise up in here?

Oh, I guess I should warn you. Many of the Brothers and Sisters here at Destee will not respect your faith. They consider it "the white mans religion" and as such it is nothing an African person should subscribe to.

As for me, I know what I believe and why I believe it. I am a strong believer in the God of Heaven. I am led of the Holy Spirit and my testimony DOES glorify the Lord Jesus Christ. I am firm and unapologetic about this position.

On the other hand, I have no problem putting my belief system up for scrutiny. Other than vain claims that "The church is harmful to blacks" or other unsubstantiated claims, no one has put together a logical case against Christianity in it true biblical form. (In other words, No one has identified a biblical principle that if practiced by blacks, would adversly effect us.)

Where did you get the idea that this is a Christian forum?


My testimony ain't glorifying Jesus, so I don't think you'll want to hear it.



How about some Ancestral Veneration up in here?




Knowledge Seed,

cherryblossom was making reference to the forum, Christianity, Christian Study Group, and not the entire Destee.com Forum....Peace In Seed

Knowledge Seed,

cherryblossom was making reference to the forum, Christianity, Christian Study Group, and not the entire Destee.com Forum....Peace In Seed

Oh ok

Sister CherryBlossom ... Welcome Welcome Welcome !!! :wave:

Thanks for joining us, and sharing! :love:


Oh my goodness! This Christianity forum is a wilderness, a barren land!

Why no discussion or bible study in here?

Oh No Sister! That's not true, though the path of Christianity has not been the dominant path discussed of late. In the early years of the community, things were quite opposite, than they are now. It's just how it goes, the natural ebb and flow of things, for it is you all ... the Membership ... that actually drive the dominance of any topic. I'm glad you're here, resurrecting Christianity! :)

Aint nuth'n like a good resurrection ... and i know! :wink:

Here's a few Christianity threads, proving, our ground is not barren ... by any means! While i've not read all of these i'm sharing, i do hope you find them enjoyable.

In addition ... feel free to start whatever discussions you'd like, and hopefully those who are of like mind and Spirit, will share with you.

Christian Testimonies (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53531)

A Question for Our Christian Famblee Members (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33030)

Christian Devotionals (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37553)


Anybody got a testimony?

Yes, i have a testimony. Let me say first though, that i'm only just seeing Sister True's testimony thread above. Sorry i missed that Sister True.

Yes, i have a testimony.

Briefly, my Mother, my Father, my GrandMother, my GrandFather, my Great GrandMother, my GreatGrandFather, my Father-in-Law ... so many that i loved, and loved me, and taught me, and had patience with me, and to whom i owe my very life ... they all died believing, living, as Christians (in their whole hearts, minds, souls, bodies, and strength). They believed it so, that they taught it to me, and it got us here ... me here, with them in me. To forsake it, would be (to me), to forsake a great part of them ... for they lived this thing, lived it and died it. I will take nothing from them, nothing at all.

To disparage Christianity, would be like disparaging them, their wisdom ... and i just can't do it.

That's my brief and heartfelt testimony regarding Christianity.


How about some praise up in here?

Thanking God and Our Ancestors, right now, for all things !!! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

... and i learned that from my Christian Momma! ... :)

Please make yourself at home Sister, because you are!

:heart:

Destee

Oh my goodness! This Christianity forum is a wilderness, a barren land!


Why no discussion or bible study in here?

Anybody got a testimony?

How about some praise up in here?




cherryblossom,

What few Bible believers there are find themselves either defending the faith, attempting to reconcile or just plain scared:), maybe thats why there has been no Bible studying.

LOL! Somebody came in here just READY to get CRUNK and got his face cracked when told that this IS the Christianity sub-forum! Therefore, my post was appropriately placed. :laugh:

However, thank you to all the other posters who supported and respected this topic.

Yes, I am aware that this site does not "lean" to Christianity. I saw that when I "lurked" for a month before posting yesterday. However, I am NEVA scurred.

I can respect other religions and spiritual beliefs, but I am a Christian.

So, maybe now, Destee can have a spot for Christians to converse and those who can't respect a Bible Study will, respectfully, stay out.

Oh, I guess I should warn you. Many of the Brothers and Sisters here at Destee will not respect your faith. They consider it "the white mans religion" and as such it is nothing an African person should subscribe to.

As for me, I know what I believe and why I believe it. I am a strong believer in the God of Heaven. I am led of the Holy Spirit and my testimony DOES glorify the Lord Jesus Christ. I am firm and unapologetic about this position.

On the other hand, I have no problem putting my belief system up for scrutiny. Other than vain claims that "The church is harmful to blacks" or other unsubstantiated claims, no one has put together a logical case against Christianity in it true biblical form. (In other words, No one has identified a biblical principle that if practiced by blacks, would adversly effect us.)


Hotep Brother Excel and Sister CherryBlossom:

I must say that we do respect your faith...

it is modern day religion that is questionable...

when ur a free thinker then u follow ur faith and live as a civilized human being...

the problem is that they have taken the teachings of Jesus Christ and used them to be self serving...

sometimes we get into heated discussions and many of us have agreed to disagree on certain things...

however at the end of the day everyone is given a free will

we respect each other and everyone is different and that is what makes destee so special and beautiful..

they can't divide us.. even if we don't agree.....

nuff respect

Hotep Brother Excel and Sister CherryBlossom:

I must say that we do respect your faith...

it is modern day religion that is questionable...

when ur a free thinker then u follow ur faith and live as a civilized human being...

the problem is that they have taken the teachings of Jesus Christ and used them to be self serving...

sometimes we get into heated discussions and many of us have agreed to disagree on certain things...

however at the end of the day everyone is given a free will

we respect each other and everyone is different and that is what makes destee so special and beautiful..

they can't divide us.. even if we don't agree.....

nuff respect




Miss Lady,

And I must say well said, Miss Lady, well said indeed...Peace In my sister friend, for real.

Hotep Brother Excel and Sister CherryBlossom:

I must say that we do respect your faith...

it is modern day religion that is questionable...

when ur a free thinker then u follow ur faith and live as a civilized human being...

the problem is that they have taken the teachings of Jesus Christ and used them to be self serving...

sometimes we get into heated discussions and many of us have agreed to disagree on certain things...

however at the end of the day everyone is given a free will

we respect each other and everyone is different and that is what makes destee so special and beautiful..

they can't divide us.. even if we don't agree.....

nuff respect

Some are as you have described. Others......well, lets just say they oppose Christianity so strongly that they look for a fight.

Now, would you mind giving me an example of using the teachings of Jesus Christ to be self-serving? That would be a contradiction, in that to do so would be a violation of the teachings of Jesus Christ. I am not saying it is impossible, just hypocritical. If I have been an example of this, I want to be called on it.

Some are as you have described. Others......well, lets just say they oppose Christianity so strongly that they look for a fight.


nobody said don't believe

that would be ludicrous

for there IS a higher power

we are just saying before you say something do the research

just don't go on something because somebody said so

opening the mind is one of the hardest things to do

funny excel you are so against amerikkkan education yet you

uphold a doctrine that is not conducive to our growth

it just keeps one sheep like and we are not sheep

http://www.tolueislam.com/Bazm/Joommal/ASK_3_1.htm

read this the "story" of JC is not original

that's all we're saying we're not asking you to give up your GOD

we're saying educate yourself on the lies that are based in fear and
in death

and not in growth and in life

Oh, I have no problem with others disagreeing with Christian belief or the Bible. I believe in "to each his/her own."

I saw this sub-forum for Christianity and so I posted in it hoping to spur other Christians on the site to participate. There are sub-forums here for other religions as well which are well-discussed.

The title for this sub-forum is "CHRISTIANITY STUDY GROUP." Therefore, it should be a place for Christians to meet and discuss Christian tenets.

It should not be an invitiation for others to come in and attack Christianity because they believe otherwise. Just as I should not enter the ISLAM, JUDAIC, KEMETIC, or any other religious forum if my contributions are not rooted in sincere interest but rather to demean and denounce.

Just YESTERDAY, one poster was QUICK to enter here and spout off about Christianity and Clyde had to put him in check. ---That poster was all READY to G-O until he was corrected.

THIS sub-forum should not be a place filled with Christians "defending" their beliefs to others. It has been set aside and LABELED specifically for Christianity, and that is what SHOULD be discussed here.

So, others whose beliefs are rooted in African spirituality or Islam or any other belief which is COUNTER to Christianity shouldn't be in here. This is not the place for "MY Religion is better than YOUR religion" discussions and attitudes.

Again, this sub-forum is for CHRISTIANITY. So, ANYONE who does not agree with the tenets of it should not be IN HERE.

As VAST as this website is, there are countless other threads in which members of all different religions/beliefs can and HAVE bumped heads and had, I'm sure, some vehement and VOLATILE debates.

But, THIS SUB-FORUM IS NOT THE PLACE FOR THAT. So, I, RESPECTFULLY, say, IF YOU'RE NOT A CHRISTIAN, JUST DON'T COME IN HERE.

Yesterday, I started this thread which is titled "ANY CHRISTIANS IN THE HOUSE?" and it is now TWO pages long with the only ONE other CHRISTIAN respondent being Excel10K.

Now, I'm not attacking Clyde or Destee or MissClassy, but I think the evidence speaks for itself that folks will start coming out of the woodwork because they saw a topic about Christianity here.

So, others don't have to come in and explain WHY Christianity is not YOUR belief. Again, this sub-forum is FOR Christians, and I am, respectfully, CALLING ALL CHRISTIANS. So, if you're not a Christian, just keep it movin'.

But, THIS SUB-FORUM IS NOT THE PLACE FOR THAT. So, I, RESPECTFULLY, say, IF YOU'RE NOT A CHRISTIAN, JUST DON'T COME IN HERE.


is religion always void of love:?:

you should welcome your brethren

To DSS:

Why is there a sub-forum set aside for Christianity if everybody and his 3rd cousin is gonna come in here and tell me what THEY believe in?

If other posters come in here and give me links and other information about THEIR belief system, then we're not discussing CHRISTIANITY.

So, again, and ever so respectfully, this sub-forum is FOR Christians.

If you don't want to discuss CHRISTIAN beliefs or the Christian Bible, then don't come in here. Why is that so hard to process?

OBVIOUSLY, at some time during the history of this site, the creators or Moderators thought it wise to SEPARATE the different religions of its members.

So, WHY is anyone here in the CHRISTIAN forum who is NOT Christian?

To DSS:

Why is there a sub-forum set aside for Christianity if everybody and his 3rd cousin is gonna come in here and tell me what THEY believe in?

If other posters come in here and give me links and other information about THEIR belief system, then we're not discussing CHRISTIANITY.

So, again, and ever so respectfully, this sub-forum is FOR Christians.

If you don't want to discuss CHRISTIAN beliefs or the Christian Bible, then don't come in here. Why is that so hard to process?

OBVIOUSLY, at some time during the history of this site, the creators or Moderators thought it wise to SEPARATE the different religions of its members.

So, WHY is anyone here in the CHRISTIAN forum who is NOT Christian?

all should be welcome

nobody said don't believe

that would be ludicrous

for there IS a higher power

we are just saying before you say something do the research

just don't go on something because somebody said so

opening the mind is one of the hardest things to do

funny excel you are so against amerikkkan education yet you

uphold a doctrine that is not conducive to our growth

it just keeps one sheep like and we are not sheep

http://www.tolueislam.com/Bazm/Joommal/ASK_3_1.htm

read this the "story" of JC is not original

that's all we're saying we're not asking you to give up your GOD

we're saying educate yourself on the lies that are based in fear and
in death

and not in growth and in life


Do you really believe I have not "done the research"? Your idea of proof for your beliefs are that "you know certain "truths".....it is indisputable because you "KNOW". I mean, who can debate that....it doesn't matter what is said, or what proof supports the belief system of someone that doesn't believe what you believe, your bottom line seems to be that your "truths" are TRUE because you "Self-realized" these "truths" so they are therefore indisputable.

If I am mischaracterising you, please correct me...but that is the idea I got from one of your recent post.

Also, please be specific...what specific doctrine do I uphold that is not conducive to our growth? I eagerly await your response to this question.

ALL are welcomed to discuss CHRISTIANITY.

If you don't want to discuss Christianity, don't come.

But, this sub-forum says "CHRISTIANITY STUDY GROUP."

So, it is a place to STUDY Christianity, NOT to attack it or to DIVERT the topic to any other belief.

Do you really believe I have not "done the research"?

it's rather obvious but listen i'm not mad at you
you are my brethren we are in this together regardless

the growth i speak of cannot be understood in this environment

this is not about me or you

it is about life on earth

this is and has always been my premise

if one black person is suffering on this planet because of food water and

shelter than we need to keep working

so when i say it doesn't allow one to grow it's rather obvious

but i don't expect you to see that

no pun intended

If all discussion in this sub-forum is led astray from Christianity, then it is no longer a place for Christianity.

Don't come in here trying to "CONVERT" me or to "enlighten" or "educate" me.

I respect YOUR beliefs, but I am a Christian. And I came into this sub-forum to converse with OTHER Christians about Christianity.

You have every right to your beliefs and so do I. Don't keep trying to engage me in debate about WHY I follow Christianity or any other discussion which is COUNTER to Christianity.

Again, why is there a "CHRISTIANITY STUDY GROUP" if everyone who posts here feels free to discuss everything EXCEPT Christianity?

If all discussion in this sub-forum is led astray from Christianity, then it is no longer a place for Christianity.

Don't come in here trying to "CONVERT" me or to "enlighten" or "educate" me.

I respect YOUR beliefs, but I am a Christian. And I came into this sub-forum to converse with OTHER Christians about Christianity.

You have every right to your beliefs and so do I. Don't keep trying to engage me in debate about WHY I follow Christianity or any other discussion which is COUNTER to Christianity.

Again, why is there a "CHRISTIANITY STUDY GROUP" if everyone who posts here feels free to discuss everything EXCEPT Christianity?

where have i tried to debate you in this thread?

by saying all should be welcome?

you say a christianity study group

a group that studies christianity right

so i felt all should be welcomed

and you chewed my head off

with a whole lot of typing

Please pardon me, DSS, I was not attacking YOU. I am just passionate in this. I meant no offense.

I was speaking UNIVERSALLY. That was to EVERYBODY.

This is a place for Christians. I am a Christian, and I started a thread in the Christianity sub-forum. But others want to come in here and lead me to OTHER beliefs.

WHY? If I want to know or discuss other religions, if I was unsure or wavering in my spiritual foundations, I would SEEK that information. There are countless threads here which are full of data on other beliefs.

But, THIS place is for Christianity and Christians.

cherryblossom,

What few Bible believers there are find themselves either defending the faith, attempting to reconcile or just plain scared:), maybe thats why there has been no Bible studying.


And that is exactly why I am, seemingly, the lone defender here striving to retain, sustain, and maintain the integrity of the forum.

Perhaps and hopefully in time, other Christians will come in and have Bible study.

But, that won't happen if it is not moderated for others to respect the purpose of the forum, which is a place to STUDY Christianity.

it's rather obvious but listen i'm not mad at you
you are my brethren we are in this together regardless

the growth i speak of cannot be understood in this environment

this is not about me or you

it is about life on earth

this is and has always been my premise

if one black person is suffering on this planet because of food water and

shelter than we need to keep working

so when i say it doesn't allow one to grow it's rather obvious

but i don't expect you to see that

no pun intended

I truely appreciate how you and I have turned our dialog around...I certainly am not mad at you either.
On the other hand, if it is so obvious to you that I have not done the research and you don't expect me to see that I am upholding a doctrine that hinders our growth, it seems you would be inclined to answer my question. I don't want to hinder our growth...so I am willing to hear what you have to say. Tell me specifically, what doctrine am I upholding that hinders our growth? Please be specific in telling me what doctrine it is and specifically how it hinders our growth. You have my attention.

Brother, I feel where you're coming from (and going).

But it never fails to amaze me how people who adhere to other beliefs think they must "educate" Christians because we are so "in the dark" and so "brainwashed" that they think it is their RIGHT and DUTY to, spiritually, lead a Christian elsewhere.

But, I am not ignorant of Pan-Africanism or Kemet or Islam or others.
I have read and discussed many other religious and spiritual beliefs, and I respect those who differ from me.

But, I have not lived 40-plus years in a cocoon or vacuum. So, I don't need others to "enlighten" me because they think they need to "save" me from Christianity.

Cherryblossom, you've made at least two derogatory references to me in this thread. According to you, I came "ready to get crunk" but instead I "got my face cracked". Furthermore, you state that "Clyde put him in his place".

I knew EXACTLY what I was doing when I commented.

I never came in here to insult your faith or to convert you. My comment was in the name of good wholesome fun........and maybe a little comedy on the part of non-Christians.

I don't intend to debate you. But if you would like to take it there, LETS DO IT!

Brother, I feel where you're coming from (and going).

But it never fails to amaze me how people who adhere to other beliefs think they must "educate" Christians because we are so "in the dark" and so "brainwashed" that they think it is their RIGHT and DUTY to, spiritually, lead a Christian elsewhere.

But, I am not ignorant of Pan-Africanism or Kemet or Islam or others.
I have read and discussed many other religious and spiritual beliefs, and I respect those who differ from me.

But, I have not lived 40-plus years in a cocoon or vacuum. So, I don't need others to "enlighten" me because they think they need to "save" me from Christianity.

It is the assumption that if you "Still" believe Christianity it can only be because you haven't risen to their level and the unsubstantiated claims that "Christianity" is harmful or a hinderence that gets me.

As an example, I will see how this exchange with DSS goes....will he substantiate his claim that I am "upholding a doctrine" that hinders our growth, or will he continue to claim I "just can't see it" or I am "obviously" blinded to the "Fact" that I am "upholding a doctrine that hinders our growth?"

I feel an obligation to "Witness" to others, so I have no problem listening to their story...but, I expect to substantiate my claims as well as expect them to substantiate theirs. I don't expect them to accept what they are told at face value, and will not accept their claims at face value. The next thing they do is claim that it is impossible for you to have done the research...because if you had, certainly you would believe what they believe.

So, I have yeilded the stage to DSS. I will give him an opportunity to substantiate his claim or with draw it....hopefully he won't take the "I don't expect you to see it" route.

CALLING ALL CHRISTIANS!

Oh, I have no problem with others disagreeing with Christian belief or the Bible. I believe in "to each his/her own."

I saw this sub-forum for Christianity and so I posted in it hoping to spur other Christians on the site to participate. There are sub-forums here for other religions as well which are well-discussed.

The title for this sub-forum is "CHRISTIANITY STUDY GROUP." Therefore, it should be a place for Christians to meet and discuss Christian tenets.

It should not be an invitiation for others to come in and attack Christianity because they believe otherwise. Just as I should not enter the ISLAM, JUDAIC, KEMETIC, or any other religious forum if my contributions are not rooted in sincere interest but rather to demean and denounce.

Just YESTERDAY, one poster was QUICK to enter here and spout off about Christianity and Clyde had to put him in check. ---That poster was all READY to G-O until he was corrected.

THIS sub-forum should not be a place filled with Christians "defending" their beliefs to others. It has been set aside and LABELED specifically for Christianity, and that is what SHOULD be discussed here.

So, others whose beliefs are rooted in African spirituality or Islam or any other belief which is COUNTER to Christianity shouldn't be in here. This is not the place for "MY Religion is better than YOUR religion" discussions and attitudes.

Again, this sub-forum is for CHRISTIANITY. So, ANYONE who does not agree with the tenets of it should not be IN HERE.

As VAST as this website is, there are countless other threads in which members of all different religions/beliefs can and HAVE bumped heads and had, I'm sure, some vehement and VOLATILE debates.

But, THIS SUB-FORUM IS NOT THE PLACE FOR THAT. So, I, RESPECTFULLY, say, IF YOU'RE NOT A CHRISTIAN, JUST DON'T COME IN HERE.

Yesterday, I started this thread which is titled "ANY CHRISTIANS IN THE HOUSE?" and it is now TWO pages long with the only ONE other CHRISTIAN respondent being Excel10K.

Now, I'm not attacking Clyde or Destee or MissClassy, but I think the evidence speaks for itself that folks will start coming out of the woodwork because they saw a topic about Christianity here.

So, others don't have to come in and explain WHY Christianity is not YOUR belief. Again, this sub-forum is FOR Christians, and I am, respectfully, CALLING ALL CHRISTIANS. So, if you're not a Christian, just keep it movin'.




cherryblossom,

First, let me apologize for not claiming to be a Christian because I am. Second, sister you are correct concerning the forum and how it should be used, no one can deny that, this is just the nature of the beast, so to speak, so, I suggest that we back out momemtarily and allow the smoke to clear and then come back, okay my sister friend?

Where did you get the idea that this is a Christian forum?


My testimony ain't glorifying Jesus, so I don't think you'll want to hear it.



How about some Ancestral Veneration up in here?

Cherryblossom, you've made at least two derogatory references to me in this thread. According to you, I came "ready to get crunk" but instead I "got my face cracked". Furthermore, you state that "Clyde put him in his place".

I knew EXACTLY what I was doing when I commented.

I never came in here to insult your faith or to convert you. My comment was in the name of good wholesome fun........and maybe a little comedy on the part of non-Christians.

I don't intend to debate you. But if you would like to take it there, LETS DO IT!

Brother Knowledge Seed ... you're wrong on this one. I don't know if you know, but these forums were specifically made for those who want to discuss these particular paths, without the contentious energy that often accompanies the same attempts, if done in the main Spirituality / Religion Forum.

We have specific conditions (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51876) for taking part in these discussions, a higher standard if you will, that all who take part, must at least try to live up to.

In addition, if you have jokes, humor, comedy ... we have a Jokes Humor Forum (http://destee.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=114) ... please put that stuff there. Or at least, put it in the threads discussing the topics you agree with and respect, not those you obviously don't.

Sister CherryBlossom is a brand new Member, and here you are talking about ... LET'S DO IT... to her, like you wanna fight with the Sister just for broaching the topic she's interested in, and desiring a meaningful, respectful discussion surrounding. You even went as far as to suggest "Ancestral Veneration" when she's clearly indicated what she wanted to talk about, even putting it in the right place / forum. That aint right. That aint no way to welcome anyone to our home. It surely isn't the way you were welcomed here, upon joining us.

If you don't want to discuss Christianity, from the context of the believer, or one who respects the faith, then stay in the threads that speak to the things you do believe in and respect.

For this particular forum, Christianity Study Group, requires that.

Thanks in advance.

Love You!

:heart:

Destee

LOL! Somebody came in here just READY to get CRUNK and got his face cracked when told that this IS the Christianity sub-forum! Therefore, my post was appropriately placed. :laugh:

However, thank you to all the other posters who supported and respected this topic.

Yes, I am aware that this site does not "lean" to Christianity. I saw that when I "lurked" for a month before posting yesterday. However, I am NEVA scurred.

I can respect other religions and spiritual beliefs, but I am a Christian.

So, maybe now, Destee can have a spot for Christians to converse and those who can't respect a Bible Study will, respectfully, stay out.

I have must respect for the comment that has been placed in bold.

As far as respecting the bible - many of us respect it for what it is but don't look at it as historical information. I like the book and have read it 4 times from beginning to end. I just don't think that is should the foundation of AA beliefs. Its really that simple for me but again, that's just me.

Peace

Ru2religious

Hello CherryBlossom,

Welcome to Destee and the Christianity sub-form.

I will state I am not a Christian, although I attend church occasionally, read the Bible and even pray. Depending on the day, you catch me - I may be a Catholic or take it back to my upbringing, a good old Baptist or neither. I know this may sound weird and offensive, but that's just me. However, I do not come in the form of a missionary proselytizing or on a conversion crusade. I ultimately believe everyone has the right to practice and belief how they choose.

Will we debate from time to time? Yes. I like discussions but my intent is never to take someone away - actually I think my debates makes a person stronger in their beliefs. Do I respect your beliefs? I respect your right to be, choose and do whatever you choose to, but what I respect more is the person. Hopefully, your time at Destee is pleasant and filled with many wonderful opportunities and experiences. Also, I look forward to discussing with you in the future. Until then, I'm just happy to sit along the sidelines and read the posts on the topic because I love to learn.

Blackbird

nobody said don't believe

that would be ludicrous

for there IS a higher power

we are just saying before you say something do the research

just don't go on something because somebody said so

opening the mind is one of the hardest things to do

funny excel you are so against amerikkkan education yet you

uphold a doctrine that is not conducive to our growth

it just keeps one sheep like and we are not sheep

http://www.tolueislam.com/Bazm/Joommal/ASK_3_1.htm

read this the "story" of JC is not original

that's all we're saying we're not asking you to give up your GOD

we're saying educate yourself on the lies that are based in fear and
in death

and not in growth and in life

Well spoken

Peace

Ru2religious

Well spoken

Peace

Ru2religious

You are welcome to speak to the claim that Christians "uphold a doctrine" that hinders growth if you so choose. DSS is currently offline, and I am anxious to see the specific doctrines and the exact manner this occurs. Since you consider it well spoken, I would like your take on it.

Thanks in advance.

You are welcome to speak to the claim that Christians "uphold a doctrine" that hinders growth if you so choose. DSS is currently offline, and I am anxious to see the specific doctrines and the exact manner this occurs. Since you consider it well spoken, I would like your take on it.

Thanks in advance.

Brother Excel10k ... please quit encouraging Members to challenge Christianity, for that is not what this forum is for.

If you and they want to do that, take it to the main Spirituality / Religion Forum.

Thanks in advance.

:heart:

Destee

You are welcome to speak to the claim that Christians "uphold a doctrine" that hinders growth if you so choose. DSS is currently offline, and I am anxious to see the specific doctrines and the exact manner this occurs. Since you consider it well spoken, I would like your take on it.

Thanks in advance.

Personally I like what he had to say and I'm not looking to debate this issues. I've done it so many times over and over again.

If you would like to debate the issues then go to the kjv bible debate but this link to me seems more like an introduction and I just highlighted a comment you made which was, "I can respect other religions and spiritual beliefs".

I then wrote: I have must respect for the comment...

So why choose me?

Peace

Ru2religious

Personally I like what he had to say and I'm not looking to debate this issues. I've done it so many times over and over again.

If you would like to debate the issues then go to the kjv bible debate but this link to me seems more like an introduction and I just highlighted a comment you made which was, "I can respect other religions and spiritual beliefs".

I then wrote: I have must respect for the comment...

So why choose me?

Peace

Ru2religious


Not debating....I am listening for substaintiation of a claim that I am hindering growth......I certainly don't want to hinder growth.....why you, you stated that his statement was well said....so I thought you might have some insight into the comment.

Cherryblossom, you've made at least two derogatory references to me in this thread. According to you, I came "ready to get crunk" but instead I "got my face cracked". Furthermore, you state that "Clyde put him in his place".

I knew EXACTLY what I was doing when I commented.

I never came in here to insult your faith or to convert you. My comment was in the name of good wholesome fun........and maybe a little comedy on the part of non-Christians.

I don't intend to debate you. But if you would like to take it there, LETS DO IT!

Where did you get the idea that this is a Christian forum?

My testimony ain't glorifying Jesus, so I don't think you'll want to hear it.

How about some Ancestral Veneration up in here?

Well, brotha, if THAT was your special brand of "humor," I certainly wouldn't want to see an example of your biting sarcasm or scathing derision.

And, no, I made no "derogatory" statements about you. I simply called it like I saw it. However, for you to come in now and say, "I knew EXACTLY what I was doing" only makes me feel more assured in my original deduction.

So, you mean, you WERE AWARE that I had posted this thread in the "Christianity Study Group" sub-forum and decided to make your "humorous" comments anyway?? So, when Clyde informed you, did you already know?

*Things that make me go "Hmmm?"*

Not debating....I am listening for substaintiation of a claim that I am hindering growth......I certainly don't want to hinder growth.....why you, you stated that his statement was well said....so I thought you might have some insight into the comment.

Totally understand:glasses:

With this being said, if you want to discussion my position then you can meet me back over in the KJV Bible Debate (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58440&page=16)

All is done in peace -

I hope that you can build this section up though - I have a lot of Christians in my family who would love to speak about Christian matter.

Peace

Ru2religious

Hello CherryBlossom,

Welcome to Destee and the Christianity sub-form.

I will state I am not a Christian, although I attend church occasionally, read the Bible and even pray. Depending on the day, you catch me - I may be a Catholic or take it back to my upbringing, a good old Baptist or neither. I know this may sound weird and offensive, but that's just me. However, I do not come in the form of a missionary proselytizing or on a conversion crusade. I ultimately believe everyone has the right to practice and belief how they choose.

Will we debate from time to time? Yes. I like discussions but my intent is never to take someone away - actually I think my debates makes a person stronger in their beliefs. Do I respect your beliefs? I respect your right to be, choose and do whatever you choose to, but what I respect more is the person. Hopefully, your time at Destee is pleasant and filled with many wonderful opportunities and experiences. Also, I look forward to discussing with you in the future. Until then, I'm just happy to sit along the sidelines and read the posts on the topic because I love to learn.

Blackbird

So very pleased to meet you, Blackbird!

And in keeping with whatever Christian-based background you have, I too hope we can "touch and agree" where ever our respective beliefs meet and respectfully disagree where ever they do not. :hi:

I have must respect for the comment that has been placed in bold.

As far as respecting the bible - many of us respect it for what it is but don't look at it as historical information. I like the book and have read it 4 times from beginning to end. I just don't think that is should the foundation of AA beliefs. Its really that simple for me but again, that's just me.

Peace

Ru2religious

Hello, "Ru2religious!" Well, that was me who made that statement, not Excel.

And, I hear you on your standpoint. However, I started this thread to spur some Bible study and Christian debate amongst Christians.


Now, for some uncanny reason, I thought the Christianity sub-forum was FOR Christians!

Imagine that!

How presumptuous of me for such audacity!

But, again, I can also respect you on your unwavering ground about the Bible and your opinion on its inappropriate foundation for AAs.

Hello, "Ru2religious!" Well, that was me who made that statement, not Excel.

And, I hear you on your standpoint. However, I started this thread to spur some Bible study and Christian debate amongst Christians.


Now, for some uncanny reason, I thought the Christianity sub-forum was FOR Christians! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Imagine that!

How presumptuous of me for such audacity!

But, again, I can also respect you on your unwavering ground about the Bible and your opinion on its inappropriate foundation for AAs.

You are correct -- that's what this forum is for so I will move alone

Peace and Increase to ya'll my family

Ru2religious

Oh my goodness! This Christianity forum is a wilderness, a barren land!


Why no discussion or bible study in here?

Anybody got a testimony?

How about some praise up in here?

Here's a topic question for you

Is it biblical for women to be pastors ?

I recently saw excerpts from a documentary called "Every Soldier Counts"
that discusses this issue.

Here's a topic question for you

Is it biblical for women to be pastors ?

I recently saw excerpts from a documentary called "Every Soldier Counts"
that discusses this issue.

oooh can I watch - my mother who was an evangelist had to debate this with my father who was a preacher. They ended up splitting because one thought the other was trying to hold them back or stop their ministry.

This would be interesting to see how this turns out if you two are not on one accord.

Peace

Ru2religious

And that is exactly why I am, seemingly, the lone defender here striving to retain, sustain, and maintain the integrity of the forum.
Perhaps and hopefully in time, other Christians will come in and have Bible study.

But, that won't happen if it is not moderated for others to respect the purpose of the forum, which is a place to STUDY Christianity.




cherryblossom,
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

So sorry I missed this post, that is uncharacteristic of me, my apologies.

Hey Sis Cherryblossom,

Nice to meet you and welcome to Destee. I was sick yesterday, and didn't log on--didn't get a chance to read thru the thread. I am glad you introduced this topic. I am a Christian, and would be interested in discussing biblical topics and/or bible study. I think it would add a good element to the site.

Hello, MizJoice, and thank you for coming!

Nice to meet you too! I'll be looking forward to our exchanges!

Be well and be blessed!

Hey Sis Cherryblossom,

Nice to meet you and welcome to Destee. I was sick yesterday, and didn't log on--didn't get a chance to read thru the thread. I am glad you introduced this topic. I am a Christian, and would be interested in discussing biblical topics and/or bible study. I think it would add a good element to the site.




Welcome on board mizjoice, its good to have you, and I hope you are feeling better.

cherryblossom,

What few Bible believers there are find themselves either defending the faith, attempting to reconcile or just plain scared:), maybe thats why there has been no Bible studying.

And that is exactly why I am, seemingly, the lone defender here striving to retain, sustain, and maintain the integrity of the forum.

Perhaps and hopefully in time, other Christians will come in and have Bible study.

But, that won't happen if it is not moderated for others to respect the purpose of the forum, which is a place to STUDY Christianity.


Same song, 2nd verse.

Same song, 2nd verse.




Okay cherryblossom, keep on now, and I going to ask you to stay and commit with action, and to not leave me:), but true dat, for real on the second verse, lol.

Okay cherryblossom, keep on now, and I going to ask you to stay and commit with action, and to not leave me:), but true dat, for real on the second verse, lol.



LOL!

Clyde, it's not just the "2nd verse" but, NOW, since I, a CHRISTIAN, posted threads in the other belief systems, the "choir" is starting to breakdown by parts! The Altos, the Sopranos, the Tenors, etc are beginning to chime in! :lol:


Mighty interesting that so many had nothing to say when others came into the Christianity sub-forum to give their commentary on how their beliefs were different.

Things that make you go :?:


ROFLMBO!

LOL!

Clyde, it's not just the "2nd verse" but, NOW, since I, a CHRISTIAN, posted threads in the other belief systems, the "choir" is starting to breakdown by parts! The Altos, the Sopranos, the Tenors, etc are beginning to chime in! :lol:


Mighty interesting that so many had nothing to say when others came into the Christianity sub-forum to give their commentary on how their beliefs were different.

Things that make you go :?:


ROFLMBO!




Well done good and faithful servant, cherryblossom, well done indeed...Peace In my sister Friend.

Couldn't help but notice that you slightly ignored other portions of my response, lol, but there is no rush, take your time:)