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LindaChavis
03-16-2009, 09:59 AM
Oak Park couple travel far and wide to buy only from black-owned businesses
Ebony Experiment encourages other African-Americans to do the same
By Ted Gregory | Tribune reporter
March 9, 2009


John and Maggie Anderson read a bedtime story to their children Cori, 2, and Cara, 3, at their Oak Park home on March 2, 2009. The family is conducting what they call the "Ebony Experiment", spending this year buying all their goods and services from black-owned businesses only. (Tribune photo by E. Jason Wambsgans / February 26, 2009)



Maggie Anderson drives 14 miles to buy groceries, which might seem curious given that she lives in bustling Oak Park. She and her husband, John, patronize gas stations in Rockford and Phoenix, Ill. They travel 18 miles to a health food store in Chicago's South Shore neighborhood for vitamins, supplements and personal care products.

The reason? They want to solve what they call "the crisis in the black commu- nity." They want to, as they say, "buy black."

The Andersons, African-Americans who rose from humble means, are attempting to spend their money for one year exclusively with black-owned businesses and are encouraging other African-Americans to do the same. It is part experiment, part social activism campaign.

They call it the "Ebony Experiment."



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"More than anything, this is a learning thing," said Maggie Anderson, who grew up in the Liberty City neighborhood of Miami and holds a law degree and an MBA from the University of Chicago. "We know it's controversial, and we knew that coming in."

But the Andersons said they also have known that a thriving black economy is fundamental to restoring impoverished African-American and other "underserved" communities, and they have discussed for years trying to find a way to address the problem.

What they came up with is provocative. One anonymous letter mailed to their home accused the Andersons of "unabashed, virulent racism." "Because of you," the writer stated, "we will totally avoid black suppliers. Because of you, we will dodge every which way to avoid hiring black employees."

Apart from that letter, a solid majority of comments they have received have been encouraging, the Andersons said, adding that most people see the endeavor as beneficial to all.

"Supporting your own isn't necessarily exclusive," said John Anderson, a financial adviser who grew up in Detroit and has a Harvard University degree in economics and an MBA from Northwestern University, "and you're not going to convince everybody of that."

The undertaking "is an academic test about how to reinvest in an underserved community" and lessen society's burden, John Anderson said. Focusing the estimated $850 billion annual black buying power on black businesses strengthens those business and creates more businesses, more jobs and stronger families, schools and neighborhoods, the Andersons and other advocates said.

"When a thriving African-American or urban community is realized, certainly as a society as a whole, we all win," John Anderson said.

They are using a public relations firm, have created a slick Web site—ebonyexperiment.com—have been laying the groundwork for nearly two years and have enlisted researchers from Northwestern to detail and extrapolate the impact of their spending.

Still, the first two months posed challenges in finding stores that meet what Maggie Anderson called her "exacting standards." Her latest crisis is finding shoes and clothes for the couple's toddler daughters.

The Andersons buy gasoline cards from black-owned stations in Phoenix and Rockford and use the cards elsewhere. After several weeks of searching, Maggie Anderson found Farmers Best Market, 1424 W. 47th St., Chicago, a black-owned grocery 14 miles from their home, and God First, God Last, God Always Dollar and Up General Store, 2243 E. 71st St., a black-owned general merchandise establishment 18 miles from their house.

They moved their personal accounts to Covenant Bank in Chicago but have been unable to switch their mortgage and student loans to black-owned financial institutions. Their utilities payments will continue going to the companies collecting those now. Maggie Anderson said she has struggled to find financial support for the Ebony Experiment's grander plans, and she lamented the campaign's low national prominence.

Lawrence Hamer, associate professor of marketing at DePaul University, called the Andersons' project "brave and courageous" and said its logic was "exactly right." But it probably will be futile in achieving meaningful impact in the black economy, he said.

"It's just so hard for a small group of individuals to have an impact on something that's so huge," said Hamer, an African-American. "It's almost like a viral marketing campaign. It only works if enough people catch the virus."

Even if they do catch the virus, he said, it is extremely difficult "to get people's attention to change their behavior in any significant way."

Maggie Anderson conceded that "it's still little by little and it's still a lot of work, but I'm still very committed to this."

Although it may be one of the more well-organized and monitored projects of its kind, the Ebony Experiment is not the only buying black venture, said James E. Clingman, a prolific writer on African-American economic empowerment who teaches a class on black entrepreneurship at the University of Cincinnati.

African-Americans have been buying black for more than a century, Clingman said. Booker T. Washington, long an advocate for African-American economic power, was an early proponent, and African-Americans have been forming black-buying cooperatives for decades, Clingman said.

But thriving black businesses began dissolving in the mid-1960s, when African-Americans focused on political power and civil rights and began patronizing white-owned businesses under the misconception that buying white signified blacks' upward socioeconomic mobility, Clingman said.

"Unfortunately, many black people abandoned their own businesses and supported others, thinking that politics was the way out," he said. "Politics still will not get you anywhere unless you have an economic base. Quite frankly, I'd rather have more black businesses than black politicians."

In June, Karriem Beyah opened Farmers Best Market, which he calls "the only African-American grocery store in Illinois that offers a full line of fresh market products." Since being featured on the Ebony Experiment Web site, Beyah said, he has experienced "incremental increases in the customer count" and received numerous e-mails and phone calls of support.

He said he believes in the mission.

"We, as African-Americans, support everyone," he said. "The Ebony Experiment is saying, 'Listen, let's pay attention to us. Let's give some support.'

"The Ebony Experiment can bring awareness, and in that awareness comes better profits and better services and better opportunities. It just grows from there."

tgregory@tribune.com

Khasm13
03-16-2009, 10:18 AM
i read this a couple of weeks ago in the trib....
i noticed that they did not have a black spot to buy clothes from though...

one love
khasm

$$RICH$$
03-16-2009, 11:49 PM
where do they buy like general goods like novelties / gifts and home decor at
I know a black owner in this business

It really sound like it could catch on if many of us tag on !
I too read some of this in the paper and was like wow these the kind of people i need
to get with.

mazimtaim
03-16-2009, 11:57 PM
Well, it could work if you could just get "Black" people to like "Black" people.

Khasm13
03-17-2009, 12:03 AM
Well, it could work if you could just get "Black" people to like "Black" people.

man...u aint neva lied brother....

one love
khasm

mizjoice
03-17-2009, 02:00 AM
before intergration, black people supported Black businesses routinelt, if only because we had no other choice. It would be nice to get back to that point again.

queentswana
03-17-2009, 02:29 AM
Well, it could work if you could just get "Black" people to like "Black" people.
The teeth often bites the tongue, yet never seperates ...even worst, "whites most often don't like whites, yet the strongest race. The "dividing" pill that put us in a deep sleep/coma will continue to overdose some, but being the givers/foundations of life ...Again we shall rise!

mazimtaim
03-17-2009, 01:11 PM
The teeth often bites the tongue, yet never seperates ...even worst, "whites most often don't like whites, yet the strongest race. The "dividing" pill that put us in a deep sleep/coma will continue to overdose some, but being the givers/foundations of life ...Again we shall rise!

:)

Clyde Coger
03-17-2009, 04:45 PM
Well, it could work if you could just get "Black" people to like "Black" people.




mazimtaim,

I am afraid you have hit the nail on the head, getting us to like us. This task is very difficult, otherwise it would no longer be our core problem, yet, it continues. From your perspective mazimtaim, what would be the solution, if any, in your view?

mazimtaim
03-17-2009, 08:16 PM
mazimtaim,

I am afraid you have hit the nail on the head, getting us to like us. This task is very difficult, otherwise it would no longer be our core problem, yet, it continues. From your perspective mazimtaim, what would be the solution, if any, in your view?




Hmm. . .if we could just focus on taking down the barriers that "Black" folk create between them. The issue for me is one of education. And this is so basic it becomes hard to describe.

In this society, we are convinced that we are individuals. We actually believe that children raised by other neglectful "Black" parents are actually someone else's responsibility. We think that we can blame our ills on whole sub-groups as though that "absolves" us. . .makes us clean.

The basic education issue is convincing "Black" people, starting with our children, that we have a real community. This is something that too many "Black" people assume that everyone knows. When we let this parade around as an assumption, we let the bonds between us become defined as what "Whites" believe defines unity. Too many of us think we are just a group that "White" people didn't want. Too many of us rely on the insanity of race to define us.

We are Africans!!!!

We were never defined by race. We existed in nations and empires while "Whites" were still cave dwellers in Europe. We have to stop thinking in terms of black and white and realize we are descendants of Culture.

And for as long as we deny that connection, we deny the righteous path to each other. The path and helps us to identify with and love one another.

I think one of the things we have to do is to find a loudspeaker and speak to the people. "Black" folks are such beautiful and intelligent people. I believe if you could give most African people a clear choice between what this society offers and what we could build if we used Africa as a foundation, they would almost always choose the latter.

African people at their core, are honest and decent folks. But we have let this message get corrupted. And people are confused about what they should be doing. We end up feeling helpless because of the need to define "Black" issues without methodology for resolving them.

So if we could find a voice. Destee is such a beautiful site, what if everyone here pledge to find a way to market Destee? There is so much knowledge here and usually it is displayed with such clarity.

I think we should have a discussion about how to implement such an approach. Because sometimes we seek to argue about 5% of the message and the other 95% gets lost. We need to build a consensus then, see about marketing this site to other Africans out there who are lost.

free2b_me
03-17-2009, 08:59 PM
I got a loan from a black person, then bought my house from a black realtor, and need I say more?? I have tried, and sometimes I still try. Black people don't want my money! I am in support of patronizing black businesses, but man, somebody needs to tell them how to do business with "Black People." At the same time, shoo, if the owner ain't trying to get over on you (the customer), then you (the customer) is trying to get the hook up or some kinda deal! Why can't we just spend our money with black people, and keep spending it with them, without all the all the fanfare of "you owe me cuz I'm black like you" attitude. That is the part, that gets old real fast.

mazimtaim
03-17-2009, 09:08 PM
I got a loan from a black person, then bought my house from a black realtor, and need I say more?? I have tried, and sometimes I still try. Black people don't want my money! I am in support of patronizing black businesses, but man, somebody needs to tell them how to do business with "Black People." At the same time, shoo, if the owner ain't trying to get over on you (the customer), then you (the customer) is trying to get the hook up or some kinda deal! Why can't we just spend our money with black people, and keep spending it with them, without all the all the fanfare of "you owe me cuz I'm black like you" attitude. That is the part, that gets old real fast.



Yep, it gets old and yet what is the alternative?

Your signature talks about "Black" love. Maybe we could try that for once. And maybe we could realize that "Black" people who try to screw you out of some money. . .could be doing so for other reasons than the color of their skin. . .or the color of their culture.

free2b_me
03-17-2009, 09:34 PM
Yep, it gets old and yet what is the alternative?

Your signature talks about "Black" love. Maybe we could try that for once. And maybe we could realize that "Black" people who try to screw you out of some money. . .could be doing so for other reasons than the color of their skin. . .or the color of their culture.

That's why I support "Black Love", I keep going back for more! Lol, No matter what, I still try to give my people the benefit of doubt. I don't just give up on all because of one or two bad apples! I always, start from a loving place, but maybe they don't want to be loved by me, I don't know?? I can't call it, but I will say this, I am not imagining things, some of our people, always want some kinda hand out because we have something in common, being black. My observation only. Knowing all this, I still don't shut the door on my people even when :censored: :censored::censored:!! That's all I'm saying.

Clyde Coger
03-18-2009, 02:55 PM
Hmm. . .if we could just focus on taking down the barriers that "Black" folk create between them. The issue for me is one of education. And this is so basic it becomes hard to describe.

In this society, we are convinced that we are individuals. We actually believe that children raised by other neglectful "Black" parents are actually someone else's responsibility. We think that we can blame our ills on whole sub-groups as though that "absolves" us. . .makes us clean.

The basic education issue is convincing "Black" people, starting with our children, that we have a real community. This is something that too many "Black" people assume that everyone knows. When we let this parade around as an assumption, we let the bonds between us become defined as what "Whites" believe defines unity. Too many of us think we are just a group that "White" people didn't want. Too many of us rely on the insanity of race to define us.

We are Africans!!!!

We were never defined by race. We existed in nations and empires while "Whites" were still cave dwellers in Europe. We have to stop thinking in terms of black and white and realize we are descendants of Culture.

And for as long as we deny that connection, we deny the righteous path to each other. The path and helps us to identify with and love one another.

I think one of the things we have to do is to find a loudspeaker and speak to the people. "Black" folks are such beautiful and intelligent people. I believe if you could give most African people a clear choice between what this society offers and what we could build if we used Africa as a foundation, they would almost always choose the latter.

African people at their core, are honest and decent folks. But we have let this message get corrupted. And people are confused about what they should be doing. We end up feeling helpless because of the need to define "Black" issues without methodology for resolving them.

So if we could find a voice. Destee is such a beautiful site, what if everyone here pledge to find a way to market Destee? There is so much knowledge here and usually it is displayed with such clarity.

I think we should have a discussion about how to implement such an approach. Because sometimes we seek to argue about 5% of the message and the other 95% gets lost. We need to build a consensus then, see about marketing this site to other Africans out there who are lost.





mazimtaim,

Here are some links that I would love for you to look over in your leisure, which conforms to what you have stated above in red:

The Forum to the GroupThink Project-Group (GT)
http://destee.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=290

Foundational thread: (GroupThink Progress Reports/feedback)
http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56440

Current efforts at attacking Self-Hate
http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57284

http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56813


Brother mazimtaim, we would love if you could become involved with all that are presently taking proactive approaches/measures at reaching consensus based resolutions which lays the ground work toward pounding out resolves to our plight, as Blacks.

Homegrown resources such as, published materials, perpetual Destee.comNewsletter/Magazine, and promotional items: T-Shirts, are just a few goals we are committed to.

Peace In………My Brother and My Friend

oldiesman
03-18-2009, 04:08 PM
first of all those of us who have stores and the like have to learn[HOW TO CONDUCT A BUSINESS]because alot of us don't have a clue about dealing with the public[which also means-HAVING GOOD MERCHANDISE]case in point,there's a black store in my hood so naturally my wife checked it out and the items she purchased were not good[of course she got a refund]but this was brand new store and there have been other instances of not getting the best service from a[brother]does that mean i won't buy black?no i'll check out the brother if he's there but if he's not i'm not going out of my way to find him...when i'm out to spend money i go to the closest store that has what i'm looking for.

Clyde Coger
03-19-2009, 11:47 AM
This bump is for brother mazimtaim

brown_h0rnet
03-19-2009, 06:51 PM
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The Link is Below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XhZD1o_vNg

They are killin this on youtube. Saying it's racist and givin thumbs down on whoever supports it.

free2b_me
03-19-2009, 09:30 PM
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The Link is Below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XhZD1o_vNg

They are killin this on youtube. Saying it's racist and givin thumbs down on whoever supports it.

This was kool, after watching it, I feel the need to consciously make more of an effort to patronize more black businesses. In my neighborhood, they use to mail out free Black Owned Business Directories. (come to think of it, I wonder what happened to these. I haven't seen one lately) Anyhoot, if we can support black businesses more often, that would be great. The Asians do it, and they also use their own banks in China Town.

$$RICH$$
03-20-2009, 02:20 AM
we just so divided at this point but yes we do need to really go black marketing and
support black businesses , this can work !

mari
03-20-2009, 04:56 AM
before intergration, black people supported Black businesses routinelt, if only because we had no other choice. It would be nice to get back to that point again.

I agree!

whilst I look forward to seeing the results of this couples intentions..

Black communites in the West are not insular enough to substain themselves.
Its often outside Nationalites that will come into the midist of a Black community and set up shop .. Asians have been doing this for years!

I'd like to see the Black Grocery Store concept move into the millennia and become supersized every 10 miles or so.. could retail most things under one roof this would be a good thing for the Black retailer / supplier not to mention the employee potential!

Khasm13
03-20-2009, 07:39 AM
if we don't support our own who will?
definitely not the jews....

one love
khasm

$$RICH$$
03-21-2009, 10:41 PM
so true if we could pull black developers in and group with some black investors to
build a mini mall in black communities with all black businesses inside it this would
cast on the minds of blacks to shop black !

This been something i would love to take part in as a investor for i've been down this
road before as i learn with failure comes success......Business like minds need to come
together for the future of black marketing and black dollars in the communities .

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