river
03-09-2009, 11:09 PM
Hey sistas,
[When we really think about it, I mean really think about it can we really see Ma'at's husband as the bad guy?
Her only concern was that she not lose him because he met her needs and desires. As a result of her fear of losing him she restricted his world to the confines of her home while she went out to win the respect and admiration of the village. When the queen offered him a greater existance and he destroyed Ma'at was he destroying anything but his restrictions? Does this remind anyone of the Garden of Eden story where the god is angry at the man for wanting more?
Sisters, love our brothas. Don't restrict them then get mad when they break out of our restrictions. A successful relationship is one where each person strives to love the other in whatever way the other needs. The unsuccessful relationship is where each person is so worried about getting enough love that the thought of giving love rarely if ever enters their mind.
When we come into the knowledge of who we are as invincible queens that is not the time to make the brothas pay for what they have done. That is the time to realize the role we played in the game and make peace.
PurpleMoons
03-09-2009, 11:15 PM
I didn't get to hear all of the story Sister River.
Did Sister Blue Rasberry leave a link to where we could read it?
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truetothecause
03-09-2009, 11:20 PM
Hey sistas,
[When we really think about it, I mean really think about it can we really see Ma'at's husband as the bad guy?
Her only concern was that she not lose him because he met her needs and desires. As a result of her fear of losing him she restricted his world to the confines of her home while she went out to win the respect and admiration of the village. When the queen offered him a greater existance and he destroyed Ma'at was he destroying anything but his restrictions? Does this remind anyone of the Garden of Eden story where the god is angry at the man for wanting more?
Sisters, love our brothas. Don't restrict them then get mad when they break out of our restrictions. A successful relationship is one where each person strives to love the other in whatever way the other needs. The unsuccessful relationship is where each person is so worried about getting enough love that the thought of giving love rarely if ever enters their mind.
When we come into the knowledge of who we are as invincible queens that is not the time to make the brothas pay for what they have done. That is the time to realize the role we played in the game and make peace.
Ok SiS River....
First, I missed parts of the story with all the Energy flowing and disrupting our flow. I think I'd like to visit the site mentioned and re-read, cause I Listen well.
One reason I don't like to watch "movies" is cause I find myself "hearing" the inconsistencies and I can get lost there.
One I heard in this one was....I did not hear that Ma'at ASKED for a mate to meet "her desires". I heard that is what RA provided her. I did miss how the Queen became interested in him.
What I was struck by most was the PATTERN of lies, secrets, betrayal from the very BEGINNING:SuN013:
A "bad guy" :?:.....ummmm... I'm kinda not willing to go there right now I suppose. The ENERGY of US BE~ing together is what I'm basking in now and that is shadowing my ability to think as you are with it.
I can certainly appreciate the POINT you are raising however and it is a point WELL TAKEN!
IF I was to say there was a "bad guy" in the Story, it would be the ORIGINATOR of those lies, deceit, betrayal.....SET! He started the ish off....MA'AT did not even do that!
If anyone remembers the site to read the story it would be Black if you would post it here.
BlacKTasTic topic for further Discussion SiS River.....kudo's to YOU:slobber:
M.E.
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Jazzytude
03-09-2009, 11:35 PM
No matter your race, religion and status..................You should want for your love ones what you want for your self!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maat wanted safety for her husband...he wanted to see what was on the other side thinking it was better for him!!!!!!!!!!! Maat had senses and guidence that told her to cherish the time she had with her cover!!!!!!
The bad person...hmmm....well nah let's see! Start with the first lie and or deciption!...then ask your self how did the subjects react to the wrong done...and never dismiss the healing and forgiveness that has to take place. I did not get to hear the end so I cannot elaborate fully.
I would say that the story was intriging!!!!!!1
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mizjoice
03-09-2009, 11:49 PM
What a fantastistic Chat!!! I, too, missed the end of the story.....not able to draw a conclusion.......dang, dang, dang!
river
03-10-2009, 11:58 AM
Here is the original story
http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/eml/eml07.htm
As you can see Raspberry changed the characters around to make it fit into a sistahs chat. Instead of two brothas she spoke of two sistas.
I did not read all of the originals tory yet. I suppose it's not the story itself (which I too found fascinating and intriguing) but the final interpretation she gave at the end. She interpreted the moral of the story to mean that we need to stick together as sistas and not let a man divide us.
Well we do need to stick together as sistas. The peoblem I have is when this is interpreted to mean we should stick together against Black men. In the story I heard last night the men were the bad guys, the liars and deceivers and Ma'at's sista almost killed her believiing the lies her husband told.
I should have titled this thread "Are there Bad Guys in this Story" because I did not mean to suggest that Ma'at is the bad guy. I realize that in a mythological story such as this the characaters will of course be polarized and this story is not so much about gender relations as it is about human relations.
These polarized characters are actually characteristics that exist in each of us. That is how I'd like to interpret it. I see parts of myself in all the characaters. There is a good guy and a bad guy in me. Parts that I love and admire and parts I need to work on. To externalize my bad guy and project that part of me on Black men will not help me grow as a person or help us unite as a people.
LindaChavis
03-10-2009, 02:40 PM
Sister River
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Jazzytude
03-10-2009, 03:18 PM
Here is the original story
http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/eml/eml07.htm
Well we do need to stick together as sistas. The peoblem I have is when this is interpreted to mean we should stick together against Black men.
Being a African/Black sistah I would have to say that Black women never stuck together against African men....reason being we to busy trying to luv and keep other women from getting our LOVE thats in African men. LOL
I have a problem with women ganging up on Black/African women who are decendant of slaves in North America....that is my Beef! It seems to me that other women gets their rocks off azzsuming we don't know how to treat our men...when in actuality we know them better than they know them selves...for real! We can also handle them like they handle us!
I pep game in many ways and in this game we call love....the men have had the upper hand because they stick together against women...just my opinion...so now... where is the ridicule about that cultural devicesivness practice...huh?!
It is like mugs talk about unity but they don't really want it. See cuz in my eyes it is better for black women to get together and stump out all the miscomceptions, lies, and actions that is not in accord with the Unity program/ process for the Black/African Family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:tennis:Peace
Ms Drea
03-10-2009, 10:02 PM
Is this love or Is Love Gonna Last?
Love & Blessings,
Drea:heart: