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Jahari Kavi
02-04-2009, 01:46 AM
I ask this question, because recently I've noticed that I'm starting to take an interest in studying and analyzing the European thought process. Do we sometimes get too wrapped up in trying to find ourselves (since we have been misguided by European thought control), that we forget to study about the ones who have and continue to oppress us???............Just thought I'd throw this out there, please leave some feedback.......thank u.

Knowledge Seed
02-04-2009, 02:10 AM
I ask this question, because recently I've noticed that I'm starting to take an interest in studying and analyzing the European thought process. Do we sometimes get too wrapped up in trying to find ourselves (since we have been misguided by European thought control), that we forget to study about the ones who have and continue to oppress us???............Just thought I'd throw this out there, please leave some feedback.......thank u.
Time to setup a lab.

Jahari Kavi
02-04-2009, 02:14 AM
lol........I'm actually on one of their supremacist boards right now. I've visted them before, but I'm actually thinking of checking up on them regularly. I won't attempt to create an account and argue with them, I'll just look at their website like they send people to look at ones like destee........I feel like I'm observing something in it's natural habitat, lol.............


EDIT

their fear of anything non-white is apparent in almost everyone of their threads........

Knowledge Seed
02-04-2009, 02:17 AM
lol........I'm actually on one of their supremacist boards right now. I've visted them before, but I'm actually thinking of checking up on them regularly. I won't attempt to create an account and argue with them, I'll just look at their website like they send people to look at ones like destee........I feel like I'm observing something in it's natural habitat, lol.............


EDIT

their fear of anything non-white is apparent in almost everyone of their threads........
LOL

Knowledge Seed
02-04-2009, 02:29 AM
Join the Klan! Join the Klan! Help us kill the kneegro, man! LOL

Jahari Kavi
02-04-2009, 02:31 AM
lol.....I'm actually thinking of applying a research model that I've been introduced to to break down some of the comments I see.....

Knowledge Seed
02-04-2009, 02:41 AM
lol.....I'm actually thinking of applying a research model that I've been introduced to to break down some of the comments I see.....
Do it, bruh.

truetothecause
02-04-2009, 02:50 AM
Ok...am awake now and my apologies for the typos and seeming incoherent sharing of my thoughts!

lol.....I'm actually thinking of applying a research model that I've been introduced to to break down some of the comments I see...

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

and we are ALL deep undercover....under the cover of they ish....they white out...



I'm reminded of the movie "Deep Cover" I think it was callled, starring Lawrence Fishburn.
I experience myself being in a position to study them like an undercover drug cop who has to actively participate in order to be considered "safe" and as a result, got hooked.....now it's time to come up from under and clean this ish off. In the end, studying "them" is now studying 'SELF'

Dr. Ani (http://www.afreekalive.com/ani.htm)has done a THOROUGH job at overstanding the germ seed of the racist
and this work has helped me understand me and them much better.

will have to say more later...i'm bout to pass out taking in radiation from the screen if i do so...was working from laptop early this morning and afraid I'd go to sleep with the laptop open in the bed with me...hence the "radiation" comment.



M.E.
:hearts2:

Zulile
02-04-2009, 03:02 AM
I do not think you'll learn too much about white ppl from visiting their supremacist boards. Those 'redneck villages' have little to do with advancing their own 'race' by discussing the methods of achieving their WS goals - they are geared to simple hatin' on everybody else.

I think the vast majority of white folk refrain from talking about race at all and are extremely careful not to show their racist face in any tangible way - you know the type.. "colourblind" white people. The ones who claim they hate racism and would stand up against it, yet remain mute when witnessing blatantly racist acts.

Studying white folk on an individual/community/state/continental level seems moot, to me - as they roll in the same system we do... so when you want to 'study' white ppl and their thought processes etc.. where do you start? Will you go back through their history to find out why they are the way they are? You want to go back and see who pulled their strings and twisted the minds of the general populace which makes them behave the way they do today? Do you want to study how the favourable WS system has molded their mindset?

We spend a large portion of our lives looking at white ppl and all they have manifested.. we already 'know' .

Conduct your study - I'd be interested to hear if your results shatter any illusions. I cannot help but feel it is simply another distraction to keep us from studying our own. As if what we have seen, lived, and experienced at the hands of white folk isnt real.. that there must be something else for us to find out about them that will make things clearer to us.

:heart:
Zulile

Metaverse
02-04-2009, 11:25 AM
The portals that are made available for us to study White people, beit online or at work aren't significant enough from my vantage point, in order to create a concrete model for how we should address their pathology. Not saying that the studying of White people from a "military" standpoint is not a good idea. It is. What we should recognize however is that culturally not only have we been studying white people for generations but we've gone so as as to study them so well that we can imitate them down to their hair, eyes and speech.

That being the case some might add that we've been "too busy" studying them.

Even a good coach allows his team to study the video tapes of their opposing team. Find their flaws and weaknesses. Find loopholes and advantages. Black folks seem to be the only people who are "militarily" disconnected as a group. Because our weaknesses are on just about every channel for the entire world to study. How can we apply we we've learned from studying White people to such a group? Only a small handful perhaps even less that 1% of us would benefit from it.

However. The White racists on all these different sites, ranting and raving about Blacks (who in some cases are their superiors at work) are not on the higher ranks of social engineers. The ones we must study are the Architects and their Visionaries not the pawns. The racists idealism in Whites are spawned by both. Without understanding that we waste our time with pawns. Pawns are trained to think how they think, act like how they act- there is no changing them especially if the main Chess Master is never challenged.

And if we can't recognize who the Chess Master is- first off, then there is no course of study that would be able to guide us. The psychological illness of racism manifests itself with whites for a scientific reason. It's because we have something naturally that they cannot manufacture. If we do not study self, studying White folks would be a mute point because they can control those of us that lack knowledge of self.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2008/01/29/LHWclinton_narrowweb__300x433,0.jpg

Jahari Kavi
02-04-2009, 01:12 PM
thanx for the feedback


The ones we must study are the Architects and their Visionaries not the pawns. The racists idealism in Whites are spawned by both

I agree. I believe in observing them from various different angles since they come at us in various angles.


I think the vast majority of white folk refrain from talking about race at all and are extremely careful not to show their racist face in any tangible way - you know the type.. "colourblind" white people. The ones who claim they hate racism and would stand up against it, yet remain mute when witnessing blatantly racist acts.


yeah these type interest me also.


What would you'll say are the different forms racism is expressed? We already have the passive ones, avg. everyday ones, and the ones with real power................And by studying them can it in turn help us?

river
02-04-2009, 04:56 PM
lol........I'm actually on one of their supremacist boards right now. I've visted them before, but I'm actually thinking of checking up on them regularly. I won't attempt to create an account and argue with them, I'll just look at their website like they send people to look at ones like destee........I feel like I'm observing something in it's natural habitat, lol.............


EDIT

their fear of anything non-white is apparent in almost everyone of their threads........

Brotha Jahati is our own spook who sat by the keyboard

Destee
02-04-2009, 06:08 PM
I ask this question, because recently I've noticed that I'm starting to take an interest in studying and analyzing the European thought process. Do we sometimes get too wrapped up in trying to find ourselves (since we have been misguided by European thought control), that we forget to study about the ones who have and continue to oppress us???............Just thought I'd throw this out there, please leave some feedback.......thank u.

Brother Jahari Kavi ... Great Topic !!! :toast:

Mr. Neely Fuller, Jr. tells us that we should study white people.

I've heard and read him saying this repeatedly ... in his very calm, even, warm, sincere, and loving tone ... and i've just not been able to feel it. I love Mr. Fuller, appreciate the great example his life is to our people, but i can't muster any desire to study white people.

Brother Jahari Kavi ... i don't know if you have had the pleasure of interacting with Brother Edward Williams, but he has provided great examples of studying white people ... even in video ... and i'm sure is still doing that, to some degree or another. He's not been home in a while, but you can visit his site at Counter-Racism.com (http://www.counter-racism.com/). There is lots there regarding the study of white people, examples, guides, current projects, forum, etc. Please do join, and mention yall are already Family! :wink:

I respect Mr. Fuller so much, that his simply saying ... we need to study white people ... makes me know it should be done, that i am obviously missing the bigger picture he's trying to paint for us, as i continue to try and understand ... so your feeling this way, starting this topic ... is great! :)

I'm enjoying all that's been shared thus far!

Thanks Brother Jahari Kavi and Family!

:heart:

Destee

Jahari Kavi
02-04-2009, 06:16 PM
Brotha Jahati is our own spook who sat by the keyboard

boo!!!

Mr. Neely Fuller, Jr. tells us that we should study white people.

I've heard and read him saying this repeatedly ... in his very calm, even, warm, sincere, and loving tone ... and i've just not been able to feel it. I love Mr. Fuller, appreciate the great example his life is to our people, but i can't muster any desire to study white people.

Brother Jahari Kavi ... i don't know if you have had the pleasure of interacting with Brother Edward Williams, but he has provided great examples of studying white people ... even in video ... and i'm sure is still doing that, to some degree or another. He's not been home in a while, but you can visit his site at Counter-Racism.com (http://www.counter-racism.com/). There is lots there regarding the study of white people, examples, guides, current projects, forum, etc. Please do join, and mention yall are already Family!

I respect Mr. Fuller so much, that his simply saying ... we need to study white people ... makes me know it should be done, that i am obviously missing the bigger picture he's trying to paint for us, as i continue to try and understand ... so your feeling this way, starting this topic ... is great!

I'm enjoying all that's been shared thus far!

Thanks Brother Jahari Kavi and Family!


thank you for the info Destee, I didn't know Edward had an interest in studying them as well........I'll definitely check this out.

thanks again

river
02-04-2009, 07:20 PM
boo!!!



I was referring to the book by Sam Greenly about the African CIA agent. I'm sorry, brotha. I didn't mean to offend you.

Prizmm
02-05-2009, 11:08 AM
I do not think you'll learn too much about white ppl from visiting their supremacist boards. Those 'redneck villages' have little to do with advancing their own 'race' by discussing the methods of achieving their WS goals - they are geared to simple hatin' on everybody else.

I think the vast majority of white folk refrain from talking about race at all and are extremely careful not to show their racist face in any tangible way - you know the type.. "colourblind" white people. The ones who claim they hate racism and would stand up against it, yet remain mute when witnessing blatantly racist acts.

Studying white folk on an individual/community/state/continental level seems moot, to me - as they roll in the same system we do... so when you want to 'study' white ppl and their thought processes etc.. where do you start? Will you go back through their history to find out why they are the way they are? You want to go back and see who pulled their strings and twisted the minds of the general populace which makes them behave the way they do today? Do you want to study how the favourable WS system has molded their mindset?

We spend a large portion of our lives looking at white ppl and all they have manifested.. we already 'know' .

Conduct your study - I'd be interested to hear if your results shatter any illusions. I cannot help but feel it is simply another distraction to keep us from studying our own. As if what we have seen, lived, and experienced at the hands of white folk isnt real.. that there must be something else for us to find out about them that will make things clearer to us.

:heart:
Zulile

Your response is both timely and timeless...Jahari's query is interesting but curious. Our true history includes time spent in the fields, homes, bedrooms and kitchens, etc., of white supremacist, on the examination tables,in the experimental halls of horror, you name it. Our people have knowledge of it, our problem, the pursuit of symbolic advances that falsely negate the reality of our situation.
I grew up in the middle of NYS, Nothin but YT here, I lived with them, paid attention to them, I don't ever need to study white folk, I know them they didn't try to hide their true nature from me until as Neely says they saw us divided between the rhetoric of Malcolm, Newton and Carmicheal, or the symbolism of Karenga and others. One path might have led to direct confrontation and violence in self defense, the other to a continuance of the same, incremental adjustments that actually strengthened and enhanced racist control, while giving the symbolic impression that blacks had 'overcome'.
Hello Kwanzaa, and MLK day, and black on black victimization...tricked again. Welcome to refinement! When a 'slave' doesn't recognize his position or condition. At this point studying the white supremacist is either useful for the purpose collective response or independently to their assault against our people, not for GPA!

Jahari Kavi
02-06-2009, 12:01 AM
I was referring to the book by Sam Greenly about the African CIA agent. I'm sorry, brotha. I didn't mean to offend you.

lol, nah I was saying "boo" like a spook.......

river
02-06-2009, 05:16 PM
lol, nah I was saying "boo" like a spook.......

:D

Oh my gawd!:lol:And I can't blame PMS for this one.

Brotha you're an angel. Go get'm CASPER. Not the friendly ghost but the Holy Ghost ! :D

river
02-06-2009, 05:30 PM
FYI, Frances Cress Welsing gives an interesting look into the psychology of the white supremist.
http://africation.com/welsing.html

Click on the link above her picture to listen to the mp3. While there you might want to check out my whole site.

smalllady
02-06-2009, 09:13 PM
What could we learn from from white peole? I also think that going onto those supremacists sites would be counter-productive. Although I don't doubt that they come on here. I just don't find white people THAT interesting enough to go on their sites.

river
02-06-2009, 09:37 PM
What could we learn from from white peole? I also think that going onto those supremacists sites would be counter-productive. Although I don't doubt that they come on here. I just don't find white people THAT interesting enough to go on their sites.

It's not about finding them interesting. It's about seeing how their minds work, what their plans are and assessing their fears, because it's all about fear, so we can act with knowledge and intelligence. It's never counterproductive to know what you're dealing with.

smalllady
02-06-2009, 10:05 PM
It's not about finding them interesting. It's about seeing how their minds work, what their plans are and assessing their fears, because it's all about fear, so we can act with knowledge and intelligence. It's never counterproductive to know what you're dealing with.
We know what their fear is. They fear blackness.

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