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MetaSaience
11-21-2008, 11:21 PM
Family. We are going to get into some real talk here. Both metaphysically, sexually and spiritually. This story is not sugar coated. Mothers and Fathers with children, forgive your Bro. Meta. But we have to get down the grit here! There are situations going on within our community that we cannot afford to ignore any longer.
(For mature audiences only. Viewer discretion is advised.)

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Tasha is what some Men around town would call a “Freak” and in deeper slang terms a “jump off” – but most Men don’t realize how she got that way, nor do they care. Tasha is a Bank Teller by day and a Sex Queen at night. One Man is never enough, she advises her “friends” the more Men the better. Everyone is invited to the party.

No. Tasha is not a prostitute. She doesn’t get paid to have sex. What she does is for her own pleasure and enjoyment. She calls her partners “her people.” She often says “My people take care of me.” Referring to all the different Men from all walks of life that swing into her bedroom from time to time. She says they “take care of her” because Tasha has a problem. Sex is her medicine. Lots of it.

Now Tasha is not the only case.

When Tasha was around 5 years of age, her Mom, a Single Mother started working the night shift as a Security Guard. The night shift paid $2.50 more than the day shift, and without help from the Father, Tasha’s Mom was left with no other alternatives. At least she could afford to pay her next door neighbor Miss Sharleen $20 a week to babysit her.

Miss Sharleen was a sweet Church going older Woman, she was also taking care of her daughter’s Son Thomas, her daughter almost lost him to foster care because she was on drugs. So when Tasha’s Mom went off to work from 9:00 pm to 6 in the morning, Tasha would be left next door with Miss Sharleen.

For awhile everything was fine. Lil’ Tasha slept in the same room with Thomas who was 11 years of age. But she slept on the lower bunk of his bunk bed. Unknown to Miss Sharleen, her Grandson Thomas had a major problem. At night while she was asleep he’d pull out his flashlight and his girley magazines and go to work. Also unknown to everyone he was sexually abused by his Mother’s ex-boyfriend who was also drug user. This Man exposed Thomas to everything under the sun.

Thomas had a friend downstairs named Charles who was about 10, both of them started off playing together after school and then later Thomas exposed him to pornography as well. Charles’ Mother gave him a key to get in the house after school. Over time, Thomas and Charles started reenacting some of the images they saw in their magazines together. Thomas always wanted to play the Man because he was much taller than Charles.

Charles had an older Brother that was in college upstate, but he knew where he kept his private things, in a box way under the bed. Among his extensive collection of action movies, were 3 or 4 porno tapes. This collection helped to educate Thomas and Charles even further. This was their little secret. They knew better than to let other boys in on their little games, but Thomas was becoming very good at manipulating people to his will.

So one night, instead of staying on the top bunk, Thomas decided to take his game to lil’ Tasha. She would never give him anything more than a hug when she saw him. She asked her to keep quite and keep a secret. He would show her pictures of Women giving Men oral sex. Then he taught her how to treat his penis like a lollipop or an ice cream cone.

Sometimes Miss Sharleen would hear Tasha in the room giggling, but she didn’t think nothing of it. “Girl go on to bed!” She'd yell out. Thomas would get scared she might peek into the room so he’d jump back to the top bunk. For about 6 months this activity went on until Tasha's Mom found a new job as an Assistant Floral Arranger.

Tasha was never actually penetrated sexually by Thomas, but he used her for masturbation. Charles found out what Thomas was doing and said he would tell. He never did, he knew their secrets would come out as well.

Tasha’s Mom was usually too busy to notice the changes in her Daughter. And as Tasha grew up she became more and more interested in how to please boys sexually and get the love and attention she didn’t get from her Mother.

Charles became a very promiscuous Homosexual Male and Thomas became both a bi-sexual, pedophile and rapist that was never caught. In fact, Thomas seemed to be just an average Joe. Like most sexual predators he just learned how to blend in with the crowd.

Today's lesson is about sexual vulnerability. We are dealing with things are that not many people are willing to speak on. We can't know for certain that all Women like Tasha, Charles and Thomas are abused, because in some cases- there is also an element of “monkey see monkey do” a vast majority of our people are very empathic and will “take on” the emotional qualities of their friends. Some Women didn't have the experiences that Tasha had, but did in fact have friends like Tasha and took on their emotional qualities.

This is also the cases with many some so-called Homosexuals who are actually empathic towards the emotional qualities of real Gays and Lesbians.

We can choose to focus on the distractions in the media about “Homosexual Liberation” - but the real threat to the Black Community or any community for that matter is Thomas. You see, Thomas is the mastermind behind the creation of all sexual psychological illnesses. Personally, I despise such Men wherever they breathe. But we must be certain to point out the fact that both Thomas, Charles and Tasha are groomed by ill situations.

Is it the fault of the Parents? Is it the fault of Pornography?
Is it the fault of our Culture altogether that enables the nurturing of oversexed young people or single Moms without Fathers?

We know that there are different stories all over the world about sex abuse, child sex abuse, sex trafficking and even sex slavery, in Africa, China and India. Wherever such acts are practiced, the young female and male are unfortunately treated as sexual commodities because of their vulnerability.

We read of these things, meanwhile supporting the same industries right here in America. We will want to blame pornography, drug abuse, and even poor parenting. And like myself, you will want to blame Thomas. Ultimately the blame belongs to the blamer. We are a culture of distracted people.

No, we can't raise another people's children. And we can't tell Men or Women how their bodies, minds or lives should be used. But at the end of the day, we have all contributed to a society of either healers or rapists. There are things that should be hidden and in the dark, and there are things that should be out in the open for all to see.

If our sexuality is the result of sexual disadvantages or abuses we have not healed from, then it is actually better to heal from those abuses and disadvantages than to continue on spreading those illnesses under the banner of “sexual lifestyle.” The Euro-mindsex is a powerful enabler in this regard.

In my opinion, the cure for sexual vulnerability, which is the raping of consciousness, lies within the discerned spirit of the conscious.

phynxofkmt
11-22-2008, 12:14 AM
Bro Metascience for bringing up this topic and of course doing it so well with one of your narratives. When I was growing up children were taught to beware of strangers, and of course there were many images of the Candy Man, the boogie man with the panel van, and the creepy guy in the long trench coat. While there were and are predators like that, the truth is that danger is usually much closer to home. As you so accurately pointed out, many times it is older children who will be sexual predators, and they have acquired a distorted sexuality from an adult, most often a relative or friend of the family.

What is the cure for sexual vulnerability? Some suggest that teaching our children emotional awareness and to honor their gut feelings is part of it.
Teaching them that their genitals and mouth are parts that are off limits, and that if they get into situations that make their tummies get butterflys, or sweaty hands, etc... to go with those feelings and fight with all they've got.
Now, this is the recommendation of parenting guides that I've read, I haven't put any of this into use.

Sexual interference is an assault on the soul and the spirit of the child. Healing once the experience has happened really depends on when it is revealed. Some children are blamed for their experiences, which compounds the trauma and only further damages their spirit.

Some parents would prefer to believe that stiffer penalties and more policing will prevent the predators from regaining freedom or deter them from acting. Statistics prove otherwise, and for whatever reason that Babylon sees fit to allow child predators to access parole, and day passes, is a reflection of powerlessness.

What can be done to rehabilitate a child or preteen who is a sexual predator? I know of a young child under 12 who attempted to have oral sex with her 7 year old cousin, he knew it was wrong, ran out of the room and told what happened. She has never been counseled but she was physically
"punished" which I don't believe was a remedy.

While I have no answer right now for the "cure", I can only submit that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Paying attention to our children is foremost the priority of our nation. The system has got us caught up so that the child's primary line of defense which is his mother has to leave them with someone else so as to attend to work. This working away from our children is the number one hole in our fabric that must be seamed. In socialist countries like Denmark and Sweden children have the ability to attend daycares right at their parents work places.

As much as no one at Destee cares for the Feminist movement, it is from Feminism that we understand the link between work, womben and children.
It is most wonderful that womben have a "choice" to join the work force but when circumstances dictate a separation between mother and child for the sake of survival than we are out of balance and our children are at risk.

The movie "Trade" depicts the international trafficking of hueman beings and the true reality is that missing children may be a part of that bondage. It is an unfathomable nightmare for any child or parent. And it is worldwide.

I believe that our children belong to us, and that we have a right to keep them safe. Economics ought not to drive a family apart, so this to me is the first miracle that has to happen. Returning to work after 6 weeks is simply not OKAY. Having to drop off a child into a day home or babysitter before they can even speak is not OKAY.

Releasing rapists and child molesters back onto our streets, is absolutely not OKAY, but then neither is the obvious exploitation of children we see in the media. Mylie Cyrus earlier this year with her father, those photos were inappropriate and they ought to have ostracized those two from the mainstream. Unfortunately, we have watched many high profile people seduce children and get away with it, both in White America and Black America. And where are the voices of the citizens when that happens?

Most recently in a Canadian magazine called Macleans, they ran an article on bras for little girls. Yes, that's right. Clothing designers have decided to make lingerie and bras for very small girls think ages 4 and up....
If that's not sexualizing our children, then what is? I suggest a boycott of not only these clothing items but the whole **** company. Any company that participates in the detriment of our childrens welfare ought to be taken out financially. And that includes magazines running ads insinuating such subject matter.

Touch is a heart chakra sensory experience, and we want to assist our children in understanding bad touch from good touch. I believe that good touch, like hugs, therapeutic massage, holding, etc... can be utilized in releasing cellular memory of sexual trauma, but ought to be done with an advanced healer. Language must be employed so the child can relate her experiences and there have to be safe places to tell, aside from the parents. I say aside from the parents because some of them are aware of the abuse and some would prefer to ignore or deny it.

I will like to expound on this topic a little later because I believe there is a spiritual element that needs to be addressed head on, but I must prepare my thoughts - my wise sister once asked if the Bible was God's code of conduct how come the commandments didn't forbid assaulting children?

Astrologer4U
11-22-2008, 12:22 AM
You know something, this was never dealt with, as I am sue it took place. Not only was it black women being raped, and molested by white men and their sons on the plantation, it was also black boys and young men who were also raped by white men, and sex craved white women. As a result of no recovery from the sexual abuse pushed on black people during the slave era in America, many black people in America are sexually confused. In addition mentally confused, spiritually confused, emotionally confused and the list goes on.



Sister

Astrologer4U

Astrologer4U
11-22-2008, 12:38 AM
I don't know if this means anything to anyone else but it does to me. In
my Astrology experience, I have seen that whenever an adult has Sun in Scorpio, Moon in Scorpio, Mars in Scorpio, Venus in Scorpio, Rising in Scorpio, or challenging aspects to Pluto or the 8th house. Adults with any of those aspects in their natal chart, are always victims of anearly traumatic sexual experience. Or, the abuser of another in terms of sex, like a rapist or pedophile. Scorpio and sex go together weather good or bad. From what I have witnessed, for Scorpio there is no escaping some kind of traumatic sex experience where they are the victim or the abuser. Scorpio is attached to other painful things but we are talking about sex right now so I thought I would mention how Astrology gives clue on how to prevent our children from being sexually harmed. Knowledge is always power.

I talked about adults but I personally know children who have had these aspects in their charts and after I warned the parent about such instances, the parent wound up telling me that it was to late.


Astrologer4U

MetaSaience
11-22-2008, 01:26 PM
That is some very profound information about Scorpios Queen Astrologer. I'd like to hear an elaboration of that from both yourself and Bro OM, astrology appears to the major gift for both of you. I know Sagittarians see Scorpios as a kindred spirit sometimes. I've meet a few female Sags that have been sexually abused also, not by Scorpios themselves usually, but by family members. I'm wondering if there's a connection there as well?

I also see how the sexual exploitation of Blacks during slavery by White Rapists-both Male and Female has perverted and retarded the sexual development of Africans in America and in Africa as well. In the film "goodbye uncle tom" we get a disturbing glimpse of these practices.

Meta-Kudos to you Queen Phynx, because without realizing it perhaps, you have laid out several solutions in your thread that Parents can take and run with right away. Mothers returning to work after 6 weeks after giving birth is definitely madness. If we really wanted to point out where physical slavery still exist in America just make a list of what happens to most Mothers in the workplace. This is a reason I believe Black Men and Black Mothers especially should be self employed and conducting a business that enables them the freedom to be Mothers as well as financially stable professionals.

I've devoted much of my own business affairs to that quest. I still can't wrap my mind around the concept of why some of us get the biggest degrees and all the education in the world only to submit ourselves to the employment of Slave Masters. We must realize that institutionalization is crippling us. Especially when those institutions are not working in our favor.

But here are some of the complaints among our single Mothers: I'm only one person. I try my best. I can't do it all alone. I have to work to pay bills and take care of my child/children. I can't depend on other people.

In some cases it doesn't just boil down to having both Parents in the home. This is an aspect that often goes overlooked. If both Parents are too busy working to take care of their children, then percentage wise there is one Parent in the home anyway. For the working poor and middle class there are fewer options without strong community bases that almost don't exist anymore. What we do have is a community raised by pop culture, media and the streets.

Judging some of these situations fairly, what I would love to see is more Black creators using the media, using the internet, using film, art, music etc., to speak openly about these issues and targeting specifically the youth so that they can understand such parameters. I'm not talking about steering sexual preference. I'm talking about speaking the truth. Children are vulnerable and we have to protect them.

When we look at "Rape" for what it is, it's about taking advantage of another person's weakness. There is "intellectual rape" as well as physical rape and spiritual rape. There is even cultural and technological rape. It's not just about taking something from someone by force, it's also about taking away something when that person is "unconscious" therefore the more unconscious we are the more vulnerable we are to being raped in different forms. When a Man uses a date rape drug for example, he can have sex with that Woman while she is still unconscious, which is not by force- but it's still rape because it's being done without her consent and knowledge.

So when we start talking about companies designing "lingerie" for young girls, that is in fact a form of rape, creating a system for others to steal away the innocence of young babies, contributing to the world sexual trafficking of Women.

As a student of metaphysics, I believe in sex as a tool for power not to exploit the sexual weakness of others, and I don't see such exploitation as an advantage as other Men/Women do. In fact, it a sure sign that such people aren't as evolved as the mates they wish to attract.

I also believe in the spirit of discernment one that we can perfect and develop. I understand why so many feared the "all seeing eye" of the African Mother. I can also see how religion can be used to block and close up that eye. Especially in the case with Women like Miss Sharleen. Women/Men who profess to be able to "feel the holy ghost" but can't see what's going on right under their noses and within their homes.

Astrologer4U
11-22-2008, 01:56 PM
That is some very profound information about Scorpios Queen Astrologer. I'd like to hear an elaboration of that from both yourself and Bro OM, astrology appears to the major gift for both of you. I know Sagittarians see Scorpios as a kindred spirit sometimes. I've meet a few female Sags that have been sexually abused also, not by Scorpios themselves usually, but by family members. I'm wondering if there's a connection there as well?

Brother Omo, is into the Sidereal Astrology and I am into the so called Tropical or western Astrology. He has already confronted me about that matter. In my opinion, both systems work. Any way, weather if be Sidereal Astrology or Tropical, the characterisitics of the signs do not change. Sagitarius is is the next door neighbor to Scorpio so for the most part, each sign would share a sign planetary placment of the other. Example: As for The female Sag who has been sexually abused, I am 100% positive that if we were to see her natal chart, she would have a personal planet is Scorpio or Scorpio rising. Or, she would have a challenging aspect to Pluto which is the ruler of Scorpio or, she could have a couple of conflicting planets in the 8th house or 12th. Something regarding Scorpio, Pluto and the 8th house would be evident in her chart. Most Sag's have Scorpio planets or Scorpio rising and most Scorpio's have Sag planets or Sag rising, both instances would explain the feeling of kindredness between Sag and Scorp.

As for the family member who did the sexual abuse, they would also more than likely have something going on pertaining to Scorpio. Don't get me wrong, Scorpio are not these monstrous people who leach off of negative sexual experiences but they are the signs who are very much aware of their sex nature, even when they are young... Due to that fact, if anything happens to Scorpio regarding sex, negative or positive, it will have a large impact on them. By the way, the part of the body Scorpio rules is the "genitals." I could tell some stories and show the natal charts for the person I am talking about, you would see some amazing things. As for your question about a connection, I am 100% sure there is a connection. Astrology explains everything.

I also see how the sexual exploitation of Blacks during slavery by White Rapists-both Male and Female has perverted and retarded the sexual development of Africans in America and in Africa as well. In the film "goodbye uncle tom" we get a disturbing glimpse of these practices.

I have never seen that movie, will have to check it out.


Thanks



Sister


Astrologer4U

MetaSaience
11-22-2008, 09:52 PM
Queen Astrologer, it's unfortunate that as a people we have moved away from the science of astrology. I have always been fascinated with both astrology and numerology, amazed of course by the accuracy and wondering still why so many people don't take the proper cues from it.

Malcolm Gladwell has a book out called "Outliers: The Story of Success" where he speaks about how famous people don't become famous through mere coincidence, but by design. While he doesn't pinpoint astrology perse as the cause, he does make an interesting case for astrology without realizing it.

His book is about people outside the statistical norm. He speaks about people like Bill Gates that had almost unbelievable luck all throughout their lives, including the fact that in the 8th grade Gates' school was one of the only schools in the nation with a one computer terminal.

I recall reading that is one of the core functions for astrology, for us to understand the twists, turns and bends our "life path" has to offer us. A good visual of how our Ancients used astrology is the scene in the Matrix where Morpheus is guiding Neo over the cell phone. Each cubical in the office is a different constellation. When we are born we are giving a "seat" within this reality (Office) and the zodiac helps to guide us along the way.

I was once told that Human beings aren't evolving because we are supposed to be to nurtured and schooled with the same soul tribes or zodiac tribes, the Elders of our same sign are supposed to school and guide us until a certain age where we'd be available to interact with other signs.

I can imagine that since Scorpios represent the sex organs, Elder Scorpios that have either healed from sexual degenerations would be able to school and guide the younger ones. It makes so much sense it seems almost criminal that this isn't being done already.

Interestingly enough, my Uncle is the same sign as myself- Gemini- 4 hours apart from Andre 3000, and so is my Mother. My Uncle is only 14 years older than me, I remembered when he was dealing drugs when I was about 9- he pulled out a gun and told me I didn't want to follow his life pattern. I never did. It was enough for him to say it more than anyone else, because we are the same vibration. I watched my Uncle go in and out of jail constantly for selling drugs which is why I never wanted to venture into that enterprise, even when provoked.

I really don't want to make a case against single family homes. One of my closest friends was abused by her Mother's boyfriend, and her home was always filled with family. Her own Brother used to bring home friends so they could have sex with his Sister. It's true that these situations are usually natal. She is also the same sign as myself. In many cases her issues as a female have become mine, and vice versa. Her Brother is very much like the "Thomas" in the recent story....worse yet, he's a Police Officer.

I would make a case however that our social and psychological education should be in the hands of those that have healed from the aversions we might face in life.

What I find interesting....and I think saying this might start some controversy...when our navel cord is cut from our Mothers- that instant- the snap shot of the Universe becomes "the map of conscious" that we will work from our entire lives. It is my belief that we are all snap shots of the Universe anyway but that things are just arranged differently for each one of us.

Pluto is said to rule over Scorpio, but now it's said that Pluto is ruled out as a planet. Pluto also rules over sex organs as well. Interestingly enough, Pluto also rules over the stock exchange...another thread. I can see that being the furtherest away from the Sun, like Neptune- Pluto is also a place of secrets. As in Hades (Pluto) God of the underworld and Serapis.

Pluto is where we hide our deepest darkest secrets, it's possible these secrets are manifesting through Scorpio.

Who knows that better than Bill Gates- the Scorpio.

Astrologer4U
11-22-2008, 10:54 PM
Queen Astrologer, it's unfortunate that as a people we have moved away from the science of astrology. I have always been fascinated with both astrology and numerology, amazed of course by the accuracy and wondering still why so many people don't take the proper cues from it.

It is not insignificant, the reason why black people don't use Numerology and Astrology. It is in fact very significant and attest to the fact that, Black people have been conditioned to depend on anything other than themselves. Black people depend on white people and their false teachings of religion. Black people don't go and search for the truth because what they have been taught as the truth, they contently accept. If they were not taught that Astrology and Numerology were evil tools of divination, they would have gone to the Bible looking for scriptures which would counter that belief. I could go on and on about Black people and their dependant ways upon white peoples spiritual values but I am sure you know where I am coming from. Any way, can't worry about the old folk who are to afraid to change, gotta reach the youth and that is why I am hear at Destee.com.

Malcolm Gladwell has a book out called "Outliers: The Story of Success" where he speaks about how famous people don't become famous through mere coincidence, but by design. While he doesn't pinpoint astrology perse as the cause, he does make an interesting case for astrology without realizing it.

His book is about people outside the statistical norm. He speaks about people like Bill Gates that had almost unbelievable luck all throughout their lives, including the fact that in the 8th grade Gates' school was one of the only schools in the nation with a one computer terminal.

Good points...Actually, Bill gates has in his first house, the 1st house is the house of "self" Uranus is the planet of "Genius" amongst other things. He also has Pluto is the planet of "transformation" amongst other things. The second house is the house of money and personal finances. Along with Pluto in the second house, he also has Jupiter, Jupiter is the planet of "abundance and expansion" amongst other things. I would love to have those two planets in my money house...LOL White people use astrology, they really do, that is how they managed to turn out people like Helen Keller, Beethoven and the list goes on. Quiet as kept, I am sure Astrology was used to start the recent war, amongst other things.

I recall reading that is one of the core functions for astrology, for us to understand the twists, turns and bends our "life path" has to offer us. A good visual of how our Ancients used astrology is the scene in the Matrix where Morpheus is guiding Neo over the cell phone. Each cubical in the office is a different constellation. When we are born we are giving a "seat" within this reality (Office) and the zodiac helps to guide us along the way.

I like the example you gave, the scene from the Matrix. Very good example. The natal chart is ones map, ones guide.


I was once told that Human beings aren't evolving because we are supposed to be to nurtured and schooled with the same soul tribes or zodiac tribes, the Elders of our same sign are supposed to school and guide us until a certain age where we'd be available to interact with other signs.

I can imagine that since Scorpios represent the sex organs, Elder Scorpios that have either healed from sexual degenerations would be able to school and guide the younger ones. It makes so much sense it seems almost criminal that this isn't being done already.

It is criminal, there is no better way to put it. Astrology is what should be taught in the schools, but when the purpose is to rob people of a knowledge of self, what you get, is what you get. For black people, that would be lacking, in the knowledge of self.

Interestingly enough, my Uncle is the same sign as myself- Gemini- 4 hours apart from Andre 3000, and so is my Mother. My Uncle is only 14 years older than me, I remembered when he was dealing drugs when I was about 9- he pulled out a gun and told me I didn't want to follow his life pattern. I never did. It was enough for him to say it more than anyone else, because we are the same vibration. I watched my Uncle go in and out of jail constantly for selling drugs which is why I never wanted to venture into that enterprise, even when provoked.

Ahh, you are a Gemini, that explains why your post are so long. Gemini is the writer, the communicator and Gemini is ruled by the Planet Mercury. Mercury is the planet of "thought". In Egyptian deity, Gemini would be Tehuti. He has the attribute of human and bird with a long beal which is symbolic to the "writing pen" http://www.tehuti.co.uk/tehuti.html...You probably already knew that... However, on the negative side, Gemini can become unbalanced becoming two different confliciting people which is what your uncle seems to have been...

Any way, my Rising sign is Gemini

I really don't want to make a case against single family homes. One of my closest friends was abused by her Mother's boyfriend, and her home was always filled with family. Her own Brother used to bring home friends so they could have sex with his Sister. It's true that these situations are usually natal. She is also the same sign as myself. In many cases her issues as a female have become mine, and vice versa. Her Brother is very much like the "Thomas" in the recent story....worse yet, he's a Police Officer.


Wow, I looks like you are your friends twin. The symbol of the twins is always a youthful boy and girl.

If her brother is a police officer, there is no telling what kinds of corrupt things he is doing if he never made good for all the bad he has done. Karma is not to be played with and he is a police officer.

As for the house being full of family, something was not quite right about that family. Some women actually get a twisted kick out of helping men get their rocks off, even if he is not getting his rocks off on them.


I would make a case however that our social and psychological education should be in the hands of those that have healed from the aversions we might face in life.

I agree...

What I find interesting....and I think saying this might start some controversy...when our navel cord is cut from our Mothers- that instant- the snap shot of the Universe becomes "the map of conscious" that we will work from our entire lives. It is my belief that we are all snap shots of the Universe anyway but that things are just arranged differently for each one of us.

Yes that would be true, for the most part, we are all born at different times, even twins...

Pluto is said to rule over Scorpio, but now it's said that Pluto is ruled out as a planet. Pluto also rules over sex organs as well. Interestingly enough, Pluto also rules over the stock exchange...another thread. I can see that being the furtherest away from the Sun, like Neptune- Pluto is also a place of secrets. As in Hades (Pluto) God of the underworld and Serapis.

Pluto would rule over the stock exchange because the stock exchange deals with other peoples money. The 8th house which is ruled by Pluto, is the house of other peoples money. The 8th house is opposite the second house, which is the house of money, ones own personal finances. Pluto is the planet of transformation...Interestingly enough, Americas first stock was African people. In fact, Wall Street was an actual wall where slave auctions took place.



Sister


Astrologer4U

phynxofkmt
11-23-2008, 02:37 AM
It is not insignificant, the reason why black people don't use Numerology and Astrology. It is in fact very significant and attest to the fact that, Black people have been conditioned to depend on anything other than themselves. Black people depend on white people and their false teachings of religion. Black people don't go and search for the truth because what they have been taught as the truth, they contently accept. If they were not taught that Astrology and Numerology were evil tools of divination, they would have gone to the Bible looking for scriptures which would counter that belief. I could go on and on about Black people and their dependant ways upon white peoples spiritual values but I am sure you know where I am coming from. Any way, can't worry about the old folk who are to afraid to change, gotta reach the youth and that is why I am hear at Destee.com.

Sister Astrologer,

I've read your posts and quite enjoy the depth of your expertise. Since I was a child I was interested in astrology and by the time I was 12 I wanted my chart done. Much to my complete dismay the time of my birth is not known, no one wrote it down, my mom doesn't remember, and the records have been destroyed. I have not studied the science, but when I look at the night sky it speaks to me. My sons name refers to a tribe of Ethiopians who were known astrologers. I do wish I had my birth time for I would have you do my chart, especially now when there are so many choices to make.

Nice to have you here at Destee.

Astrologer4U
11-23-2008, 02:50 AM
Sister Astrologer,

I've read your posts and quite enjoy the depth of your expertise. Since I was a child I was interested in astrology and by the time I was 12 I wanted my chart done. Much to my complete dismay the time of my birth is not known, no one wrote it down, my mom doesn't remember, and the records have been destroyed. I have not studied the science, but when I look at the night sky it speaks to me. My sons name refers to a tribe of Ethiopians who were known astrologers. I do wish I had my birth time for I would have you do my chart, especially now when there are so many choices to make.

Nice to have you here at Destee.




Thank you Sister, for your kind and appreciative words....By the way, Where were you born?



Astrologer4U

ZeroPoint
11-23-2008, 12:17 PM
Astrology is the biggest science we are missing out on. All rituals are done numerically and astrologically.

If you want to take it the fact that Jesus is a personification of the sun. And Jesus name in Spanish is pronounced Hay-Zeus. Hay is the spanish letter G.

Zeus was the King of Gods

Zeus descended from JU-piter . Piter could be Pater which means Father

And Jesus happens to be the King of JEWS

Maybe this WHOLE THING, 9-11, New World Order, The Bible, black people's descension into ignorance is all wrapped into astrology and possibly Astrology is our salvation. HE did say he was our Salvation.
http://www.aerospaceguide.net/solar_system/our_sun.gif

Oops I meant him:

http://www.heart-cry.com/love/Jesus_ws.jpg

The biggest thing that boggles me, is black people's inability to rise up. Civil Rights movement dead. Black panthers infiltrated. Black Wall Street burned to the ground. Maybe we're so caught up in how to survive DOWN HERE, that we're forgetting to LOOK UP..

Why is the most common greeting amongst black people is What's up?

http://www.allthesky.com/clusters/preview/m41sirius-p.jpg

HOME!!!


And Astrology4U, if you don't mind. You think you could do a natal chart reading for me??

Astrologer4U
11-23-2008, 01:06 PM
And Astrology4U, if you don't mind. You think you could do a natal chart reading for me??


What's up Brother Zeropoint? Doing you chart would be what's up eh? I would love to do your chart...go to this thread and leave all of your particualars...

http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56422

By the way, that was a great post!


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Astrologer4U

Astrologer4U
11-24-2008, 12:19 PM
oops!:fyi: #8

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