Sigh....

I dont even know where I am going with this thread... I just want a real brotha man out here, to identify himself...I mean, do I need to break out a black light to see him or somethin'?

Sigh again....

Why is it that the image of our black men, is SO POOR in this country? I mean, I ask myself this question...and I certainly dont mean to offend tha intelligent brothas here on destee.

Maybe I need a Destee Man in my life, ya think?

I mean, WHAT is going on with our black relationships? WHY are they filled with such DRAMA....WHY are our black men, looked down upon and WHAT can we do about it?

and please...if you disagree with this thread, then keep it movin, cas I aint tryin to hear it. I live in REALITY.

Moving right along :D

awww queenie...dont be like that.....<sad face>

I speak only the truth....gosh, if your response is whats to come....than I betta watch out!!



:bam:

:thinking: and DESTEE has alot of real men except for well i'll leave that alone

you know this country doesn't promote positive black men unless he's

sucking on the status quo, meaning don't announce you're blackness you know

stay quiet.

you know how we got here to this place in time, it's a long story with a million

angles but in the meantime i'm standing up, i'm real & don't get 2 ****s what

anybody thinks about it

the drama is both sides

because both sides (man & women) are suffering inside (with their inner being) no spiritual foundation

so when you approach things like a fish out of water, you get fishy results and you start gasping for air

feel me

I appreciate your positve feedback on this brotha Street...

You are right...I just wonder to myself....it seems like the black man ( and woman) has been down soooo long.....when will it be our time to really shine?

It's almost as if, I wish we could call a world meeting of our family, and talk about these things...

but sigh...I know it would be chaos.

I just wish we had more positive black men, in our everyday lives...for all the sons and all the daughters....for all the woman who have been waiting to love them...


I may have to think of a flo for this...

:SuN034:i am a real black man. actually we all are....and you do not like me

Yes, Ma'am.

too many of our children are too caught up in the media blitz that has programmed this entire planet to see us as something that we aren't. it is so bad that we come with that flow as well. we have to work on that. brother has launched a tv station; send him some ideas for programming. i'd like to see him tackle "The PMS: Attorneys at Law" (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47747). i think it would present another perspective of Africans born, bred and twisted in/by america. (too bad; did she pull her pics?) (oh!! do you know poecticmanifesta by any chance; she's also from/near richmond.)

too many of us display all the symptoms of having been raised in a "single parent" household. this seems to be reflected a lot by the way we view what is supposed to be a "black man". frankly, what with the way that our families have been so trashed by so very many aspects of this "society", we really have a very warped understanding: more than a mere "bread winner", more than just a "protector", more than just a "teacher". consider, especially, "DADDY, INC." (http://www.speakeasy.org/~mskila/waynhome/constell.htm)

that dratted media!! now it's got us calling each other by that blasted n-word like it is some "badge of honor", and cursing our mothers and all sorts of disgusting things. a concerted effort by African Men needs to address this mess; i would have thought that the "brothers only online class" would have been a perfect venue for figuring out what our actual roles should be and some steps to achieve some sort of regional/national/global project to demonstrate/express those values that seem to have been lost/beaten out of us. sadly, i can't do videochat on this old hardware, and i don't play the supremelunacy game of "economics" anymore, so can't buy new hardware. (stepping away from that mess is gonna be really hard in that we'd have to give up so much "comfort" and "convenience".)

most importantly, i think, he'll stand up when he remembers that he is an African Man as he was before this programming into "an american black man[slave]" began.

btw; that "world meeting of our family to discuss these things" began about 10 or so years ago when an African Woman built an internet forum just for us!!
:bowdown: Blessing Be Unto You, SisterQueenMother Destee!! :bowdown:

:SuN034:i am a real black man. actually we all are....and you do not like me

Brotha James...I do you like you family. I appreciate your thoughts, I just sometimes think that perhaps you could use some tact in some of the truth you speak.....truce?

Yes, Ma'am.

too many of our children are too caught up in the media blitz that has programmed this entire planet to see us as something that we aren't. it is so bad that we come with that flow as well. we have to work on that. brother has launched a tv station; send him some ideas for programming. i'd like to see him tackle "The PMS: Attorneys at Law" (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47747). i think it would present another perspective of Africans born, bred and twisted in/by america. (too bad; did she pull her pics?) (oh!! do you know poecticmanifesta by any chance; she's also from/near richmond.)

too many of us display all the symptoms of having been raised in a "single parent" household. this seems to be reflected a lot by the way we view what is supposed to be a "black man". frankly, what with the way that our families have been so trashed by so very many aspects of this "society", we really have a very warped understanding: more than a mere "bread winner", more than just a "protector", more than just a "teacher". consider, especially, "DADDY, INC." (http://www.speakeasy.org/~mskila/waynhome/constell.htm)

that dratted media!! now it's got us calling each other by that blasted n-word like it is some "badge of honor", and cursing our mothers and all sorts of disgusting things. a concerted effort by African Men needs to address this mess; i would have thought that the "brothers only online class" would have been a perfect venue for figuring out what our actual roles should be and some steps to achieve some sort of regional/national/global project to demonstrate/express those values that seem to have been lost/beaten out of us. sadly, i can't do videochat on this old hardware, and i don't play the supremelunacy game of "economics" anymore, so can't buy new hardware. (stepping away from that mess is gonna be really hard in that we'd have to give up so much "comfort" and "convenience".)

most importantly, i think, he'll stand up when he remembers that he is an African Man as he was before this programming into "an american black man[slave]" began.

btw; that "world meeting of our family to discuss these things" began about 10 or so years ago when an African Woman built an internet forum just for us!!
:bowdown: Blessing Be Unto You, SisterQueenMother Destee!! :bowdown:

African,

Yes brother, I am glad you are standing up! And I appreciate that. I admire your train of thought as well. You are right. If men would just take the time to realize that they are African Kings, and not this garbage that America is pimping them on, than maybe we could have some real order around this camp,lol. And maybe, just maybe I could find my king,lol :love:

Hey! The world is pimping women on insecurities for profit, and pimping black men in the music industry for profit. YOU know...I just had a dauntiing thought.. The MAN pretends to let us be in control....while he sits back, and rakes in the dough... Almost like a reverse psychology. "Eh, let em' keep thinking that their running the show" says the Powerful executives...."stupid negro" he mutters under his breath....

And yes my friend, DESTEE is our world organization!! I like that!

Brotha James...I do you like you family. I appreciate your thoughts, I just sometimes think that perhaps you could use some tact in some of the truth you speak.....truce?

ok :grouphug: i'll try...

in philly, those cultural and spiritual gatherings that i attend are routinely dominated by men. there are very few females who come.
there are brothers of various sizes shapes and background trying to get it together in philly.

i don't know about other parts of the country but where i am a conscious female of breeding age who is available is a miracle.
i, for one, no longer even think about women. to ask where the men are kind of boggles my mind.
where i live they are all over. had your eyes checked lately?

Sigh....

I dont even know where I am going with this thread... I just want a real brotha man out here, to identify himself...I mean, do I need to break out a black light to see him or somethin'?

Sigh again....

Why is it that the image of our black men, is SO POOR in this country? I mean, I ask myself this question...and I certainly dont mean to offend tha intelligent brothas here on destee.

Maybe I need a Destee Man in my life, ya think?

I mean, WHAT is going on with our black relationships? WHY are they filled with such DRAMA....WHY are our black men, looked down upon and WHAT can we do about it?

and please...if you disagree with this thread, then keep it movin, cas I aint tryin to hear it. I live in REALITY.




sweet apple*pie,

You are speaking truth to power! Da Street So’Ja is very on point. Beginning here, Destee.com, we can touch many of our People. This ICON is the conduit to that end you desire. Charity begins at Home and this is our Home/Community. Your mind is so beautiful, don’t ever change! But try this, look more for the positive and accent the positive. In other words, give credit where it is due, and before you know it; a fire catches and burns. We are attempting to love one another here, it catches and transfers to our families, and continues to grow.

The term I’m looking for is Optimism. And not so much Pessimism. Our words ring loud daily, through the beautiful poetry we write, etc...Take my Son for instance, his daily task is to tell others about the Love he witnesses here, and many are beginning to come this way, and are tuning in. We must maintain what Destee has laid out........and that is Love, Respect for the Community.

Please don ‘t take this as a lecture, just the Clarion Call for the truth you Speak...I love you too!

i don't know about other parts of the country but where i am a conscious female of breeding age who is available is a miracle.


this man speaks the truth................when i find one i ain't lettin her go......................

To be farely Honest with you all, my brothas and sistas, we as black women have to ask our selves, what are we doing to contribute to brothas that do us wrong? No man can do to you what you don't allow him to do unless he has a gun to your head or is using physical force. Other than that, we can not blame black men for doing to us what we have helped accustom them to do to us.

Come on sistas, we spoil our men, we allow them to play games with us. We don't let them know that we are not playing with them until it is to late.

We are the mothers, the first women in their lives and their experience with us plants the seed for how they will treat the women they have relationships with.


It takes two, it is not just the black man, it is us black women as well.

Don't get mad because if we want a solution to the problem, let's keep it all the way real and if the shoe fits wear it.

on the one hand, they say that they are the head of the household and that they lay down the law.

but on the other, they'll acknowledge the fact that there are too many households run by single mothers by saying that any problems in the family are due to the way that women raise boys.

but where are the out front national programs that teach young boys and girls how a man is suppose to act with regard to sticking around and raising children right?

does the "fault" fall on both, neither or one or t'other?

frankly, the "blame game" needs to die while both of us get together and spell out just what it is that would make it all work right.

To be farely Honest with you all, my brothas and sistas, we as black women have to ask our selves, what are we doing to contribute to brothas that do us wrong? No man can do to you what you don't allow him to do unless he has a gun to your head or is using physical force. Other than that, we can not blame black men for doing to us what we have helped accustom them to do to us.

Come on sistas, we spoil our men, we allow them to play games with us. We don't let them know that we are not playing with them until it is to late.

We are the mothers, the first women in their lives and their experience with us plants the seed for how they will treat the women they have relationships with.


It takes two, it is not just the black man, it is us black women as well.

Don't get mad because if we want a solution to the problem, let's keep it all the way real and if the shoe fits wear it.

i jus need a girl who loves music, is socially aware, and can cook fish......................i don't ask for much.

i jus need a girl who loves music, is socially aware, and can cook fish......................i don't ask for much."need" or "want"?

when it comes to a girlfriends......"need", lol..........if i had to choose one of those things off that list it would be social awareness though. I can cook my own fish and jam my own music..............

it's males all over the place....the point would be...where are the females?

i jus need a girl who loves music, is socially aware, and can cook fish......................i don't ask for much.

I hear you on this! lol!

breeding age

breeding age ... ??!!! ... :eeek:


Maybe I need a Destee Man in my life, ya think?

Sister Sweet Applie*Pie ... Peace and Blessings ... :love:

I've said many times over the years ... that we have more Black Men at destee, than they do in a small Baptist Church! :D

Yes Yes Yes ... not just Black Men, but WONDERFUL BLACK MEN !!! :love:

We are blessed beyond compare, it is an ongoing gauge of our wealth, the number of Brothers that have ALWAYS lived here!

While they are all that i've said and more, they come with no guarantees, as it relates to personal relationships.

You must be responsible for yourself at all times, whether with a "Destee Man" ... or any Man.

I'm just say'n Sister ... be careful all ways and every where ... including on destee.

Much Love and Peace.

:heart:

Destee

Right here you looking at one in me ! I'm as real and as good
We are spreaded about and around there are many good strong spiriturally black men
our image seem poor by and through the amerikkan media eye in this society we in today
we have brought inside our homes termoil and destruction and we also deal with the
truth of so many of our sisters over look us but we facing ourselves finding solutions
and love /good morals and respect within
Black men within this family to our reality is as good as they come
LQQK around wit ya eyes wide open and you will see many of us standing around waving !
I agree street so'ja sums it up well for me i couldn't have said it any better and that's
truth and realism .

Looking fo a good black man ...then here i am...lol

i used to ask myself "where are all the good sisters at?" all the time, until I realized something one day(don't know if I mentioned this on here b4 or not, so forgive me if I'm repeating myself).......The majority of relationships when dating turn out to be crappy in the end. Whether it be a nasty split or a good one, chances are whenever you meet somebody new there is a 99% chance that it isn't going to work out. I see it as a positive, because that's what makes that special one so special..........i know that sounded a tad corny at the end, but oh well.....

To be farely Honest with you all, my brothas and sistas, we as black women have to ask our selves, what are we doing to contribute to brothas that do us wrong? No man can do to you what you don't allow him to do unless he has a gun to your head or is using physical force. Other than that, we can not blame black men for doing to us what we have helped accustom them to do to us.

Come on sistas, we spoil our men, we allow them to play games with us. We don't let them know that we are not playing with them until it is to late.

We are the mothers, the first women in their lives and their experience with us plants the seed for how they will treat the women they have relationships with.


It takes two, it is not just the black man, it is us black women as well.

Don't get mad because if we want a solution to the problem, let's keep it all the way real and if the shoe fits wear it.


You speak the truth Astrologer... But how do we start to turn this ship around? I feel as if the image of entertainment ( videos, magazines, internet, etc ) has so much force in our community, it's as if men think that this is a real way of life. And somehow, some woman have accepted it. I guess what I would like to know is....where did the RESPECT between black men and woman go?

where did the RESPECT between black men and woman go?
:em3200:we show respect here at destee....

on the one hand, they say that they are the head of the household and that they lay down the law.

but on the other, they'll acknowledge the fact that there are too many households run by single mothers by saying that any problems in the family are due to the way that women raise boys.

but where are the out front national programs that teach young boys and girls how a man is suppose to act with regard to sticking around and raising children right?

does the "fault" fall on both, neither or one or t'other?

frankly, the "blame game" needs to die while both of us get together and spell out just what it is that would make it all work right.

Yes, [an]African, I definitly agree with what you are saying. For starters, sista's need to be more conscientious with whom they invite into their bedrooms. I mean, lets be real about it. Even Astrologer made this point, that we allow certain things to take place. You knew before you laid down with him, that he was no good. And for those who did not, than my heart is with them. But it is very hard for a woman to train a man to be A man, when she is working two jobs, and has inner turmoil of her own. It's almost as if having no father is an initiation, to being black in America. And I kno I make a bold statement here...


Right here you looking at one in me ! I'm as real and as good
We are spreaded about and around there are many good strong spiriturally black men
our image seem poor by and through the amerikkan media eye in this society we in today
we have brought inside our homes termoil and destruction and we also deal with the
truth of so many of our sisters over look us but we facing ourselves finding solutions
and love /good morals and respect within
Black men within this family to our reality is as good as they come
LQQK around wit ya eyes wide open and you will see many of us standing around waving !
I agree street so'ja sums it up well for me i couldn't have said it any better and that's
truth and realism .

Looking fo a good black man ...then here i am...lol

Hey rich...I dont think you meant the lol...LOL.

But I agree, that their are wonderful black men out here, but we just need to make their presence more known...what can we do? I wish we could create a campaign of some sort, bring this issue out of the shadows.... air commercials, have page displays in magazines, create a billboard, send out newsletters...stir up some noise! Instead we just sit on. We Get on this merry go around and talk about it, and get off when the ride is over. We need a black man...some black men AND women to get out there and make some noise. Let America know, that we refuse to keep playing into this, and that we are planning to do something ABOUT it.
LET THEM KNOW We are planning to revamp the image of blacks, and we are not waiting around for white america to do it for us.

but we just need to make their presence more known...what can we do?

start a thread entitled "good black men" with my picture as the first post........

Greetings sweet apple*pie..

As you already know I did reply to your thread hahahha.. my reasons for not replying here were two fold.

1. It was poetry.
2. I didn't want to disrupt what you had going on here. (respect)

With that being said... like I said in my poem we do stand up. EVERYDAY IN EVERY-WAY

Lilpea :1on1:

ps. you still didn't answer my question still waiting on your reply.

You speak the truth Astrologer... But how do we start to turn this ship around? I feel as if the image of entertainment ( videos, magazines, internet, etc ) has so much force in our community, it's as if men think that this is a real way of life. And somehow, some woman have accepted it. I guess what I would like to know is....where did the RESPECT between black men and woman go?


To answer the question where did the respect between black men and women go? Let us deal with this first...

Sister, we have all lost ourselves and yes slavery and colonization has contributed to that. The black man and the black woman both have equal issues. How can we be right for each other when we are not right for our self? As I stated in the first post, we spoil our men and allow them to play games with us, why is it that we allow that? What we allow them to do is a reflection of what we expect from them.

Why do we expect that behavior in them?

Answer: We raised them to be that way.

Why did we raise them to be that way?

Answer: We have no respect for ourselves.

If we love ourselves, we would not settle for less than what we expect and if we are settling, we should expect to reap the results of settling. Same goes for the black man. The black man is the example to his black daughter for what types of black men she should expect to tolerate as she becomes a woman.



The black man reflects what we black women put out and the black woman reflects what the black man puts out. When you look into the mirror, you see you but if you look again, deep down you will see the reflection of the black man.


Does that make sense?

We Get on this merry go around and talk about it, and get off when the ride is over. We need a black man...some black men AND women to get out there and make some noise. Let America know, that we refuse to keep playing into this, and that we are planning to do something ABOUT it.
LET THEM KNOW We are planning to revamp the image of blacks, and we are not waiting around for white america to do it for us.

The "campaign" has already begun...with the birth of you and me and each and everyone of us. I don't think we need another Million Man March or March on Washington to prove that good and decent black men and women exist. I would venture to guess that if you sat down and made a list of all the men and women you know...the majority would probably end up on the "good and decent" side...and that's just your small circle. My circle is filled with good and decent black people. The few bad apples that slip between the cracks come to make me stronger.

We each have our own individual, unique influence. And if we all used that influence in a positive way on just one person each day....WOW!!! What a difference we could make collectively! And that positive influence would trickle to our relationships and our children!!!

I could be overly optimistic but we keep waiting on "some" kind of movement or human savior when we have been equipped with everything we need to do it ourselves. And since tomorrow is not promised, this should be our mission in our current reality....there's no time like the present!

Yes brother, I am glad you are standing up! And I appreciate that. I admire your train of thought as well. You are right. If men would just take the time to realize that they are African Kings, and not this garbage that America is pimping them on, than maybe we could have some real order around this camp,lol. And maybe, just maybe I could find my king,lol :love:

Hey! The world is pimping women on insecurities for profit, and pimping black men in the music industry for profit. YOU know...I just had a dauntiing thought.. The MAN pretends to let us be in control....while he sits back, and rakes in the dough... Almost like a reverse psychology. "Eh, let em' keep thinking that their running the show" says the Powerful executives...."stupid negro" he mutters under his breath....

Also, who is pimping who? I don't blame anybody for my own actions and decisions. If we choose to be pimped in entertainment and the music industry then that's our own decision and we have to accept the consequences for our actions. We need to stop blaming "The Man" and everybody else! Then we need to EDUCATE our children about what's going on...know what they're watching on TV (sit down with them and watch it) and be ready to comment/discuss the "real" stuff that's out there and not leaving them to figure it out for themselves.

Great topic Sis Sweet!

The "campaign" has already begun...with the birth of you and me and each and everyone of us. I don't think we need another Million Man March or March on Washington to prove that good and decent black men and women exist. I would venture to guess that if you sat down and made a list of all the men and women you know...the majority would probably end up on the "good and decent" side...and that's just your small circle. My circle is filled with good and decent black people. The few bad apples that slip between the cracks come to make me stronger.

We each have our own individual, unique influence. And if we all used that influence in a positive way on just one person each day....WOW!!! What a difference we could make collectively! And that positive influence would trickle to our relationships and our children!!!

I could be overly optimistic but we keep waiting on "some" kind of movement or human savior when we have been equipped with everything we need to do it ourselves. And since tomorrow is not promised, this should be our mission in our current reality....there's no time like the present!



Also, who is pimping who? I don't blame anybody for my own actions and decisions. If we choose to be pimped in entertainment and the music industry then that's our own decision and we have to accept the consequences for our actions. We need to stop blaming "The Man" and everybody else! Then we need to EDUCATE our children about what's going on...know what they're watching on TV (sit down with them and watch it) and be ready to comment/discuss the "real" stuff that's out there and not leaving them to figure it out for themselves.

Great topic Sis Sweet!



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Lilpea :1on1:

all of us live under a system of white supremacy. those who do not take this fact into account will always be confused and frustrated about what is going on.

all of us live under a system of white supremacy. those who do not take this fact into account will always be confused and frustrated about what is going on.


I just love how you get to the point.

Yes James, that is the root of this all. White supremacy is the reason why black women spoil their sons and spoil their men. It is all they know, fashioning themselves after the white woman. The black man, that is a different story however. Slavery reap the results of the black man in the same percentage as the black woman, raising his daughters the way the white man raises his. In the black mans case, the male ego has become overwhelmed. Slavery, white supremacy, has caused the black man to only desire being in the same status as the white man and for him, status would be financial. However, the black man can't measure up to the white man when it comes to financial status because the white man has robbed everyone to get his riches. Black man has not realized that yet. If the black man did, he would look for another alternative.

White Supremacy has caused black people to do their best to fashion themselves after white people but what they don't seem to realize is this, they would also have to rob the entire planet to accurately be like white people. Some black people realize this to a degree and that is why some of them are notorious for petty crimes and crime major crimes which put them behind bars. The crimes they do are not like the many crimes white man and his woman has committed through out the planet but in the black mans case, hes gotta start somewhere. Black women are no acception to the rule either, it goes both ways.


Not as short and to the point as you yet in laymans terms...LOL

have you ever noticed that black cats do crime mostly to try to get money but white people do that weird, strange stuff that nobody can figure out what they was thinkin?

have you ever noticed that black cats do crime mostly to try to get money but white people do that weird, strange stuff that nobody can figure out what they was thinkin?


Hey James....why don't you elaborate on this for us? Tactfully.....smile

have you ever noticed that black cats do crime mostly to try to get money but white people do that weird, strange stuff that nobody can figure out what they was thinkin?


James, if you are talking to me, of course I notice it. That is what makes white people different from black people. Why you think they give crimes names such as white collar and blue collar. The whole thing is, you don't see white collar crimes on the TV show cops and you know who commits those crimes.

start a thread entitled "good black men" with my picture as the first post........

Why don't you stand up Black Man, and create it yourself? He he he

I just love how you get to the point.

Yes James, that is the root of this all. White supremacy is the reason why black women spoil their sons and spoil their men. It is all they know, fashioning themselves after the white woman. The black man, that is a different story however. Slavery reap the results of the black man in the same percentage as the black woman, raising his daughters the way the white man raises his. In the black mans case, the male ego has become overwhelmed. Slavery, white supremacy, has caused the black man to only desire being in the same status as the white man and for him, status would be financial. However, the black man can't measure up to the white man when it comes to financial status because the white man has robbed everyone to get his riches. Black man has not realized that yet. If the black man did, he would look for another alternative.

White Supremacy has caused black people to do their best to fashion themselves after white people but what they don't seem to realize is this, they would also have to rob the entire planet to accurately be like white people. Some black people realize this to a degree and that is why some of them are notorious for petty crimes and crime major crimes which put them behind bars. The crimes they do are not like the many crimes white man and his woman has committed through out the planet but in the black mans case, hes gotta start somewhere. Black women are no acception to the rule either, it goes both ways.


Not as short and to the point as you yet in laymans terms...LOL

we have all been taught the white value system. all of us.
that is why i smile at all these super hip brothers that be so "superior" to all the rest of us.

ain't nobody escaped the poison. it's in the water.

we all have to detoxify ourselves from the white value system. white value money because they got no soul.
they lookin for sumthin to fill up the emptiness that they feel inside.

black folk got soul. what we got is more valuable than gold. we all got it. we just have to realize that we have it and to place the appropriate value on it.

after that a white man can kiss my butte.

Hey James....why don't you elaborate on this for us? Tactfully.....smile

it is my theory that if you dropped a billion in cash on my 'hood, the crime rate would drop to zero overnight.

in the meantime some white freak would be busted in the motel with a couple of 12 year old girls and a bunch of power tools.

One solution to the problem and to make a change is within self
our sisters need to stop downing black men or holding them accountable
for every thing ,some men do get lost and go buck wild but women are the base of
men and need to help guide him back on the path.

we have all been taught the white value system. all of us.
that is why i smile at all these super hip brothers that be so "superior" to all the rest of us.

ain't nobody escaped the poison. it's in the water.

we all have to detoxify ourselves from the white value system. white value money because they got no soul.
they lookin for sumthin to fill up the emptiness that they feel inside.

black folk got soul. what we got is more valuable than gold. we all got it. we just have to realize that we have it and to place the appropriate value on it.

after that a white man can kiss my butte.


We are on the same page, we kind of got off on a rocky start in the "Gay and Conscious?" thread but even in that thread we were on the same page. Yes, we black people all around the world need to as you said it "detoxify" ourselves from the white value system. The white value system does not work for black people and why would we want it to? We find that answer in the roots of living amongst a white supremacy ruled planet. I say planet because blacks all over the world are negatively affected by white supremacy

:hearts4: I'VE ENJOYED READING THE POSTS AND HOW THE IS TOPIC HAS EVOLVED FROM THE BEGINNING TIL NOW..:hearts4:

Sigh....

I dont even know where I am going with this thread... I just want a real brotha man out here, to identify himself...I mean, do I need to break out a black light to see him or somethin'?

Sigh again....

Why is it that the image of our black men, is SO POOR in this country? I mean, I ask myself this question...and I certainly dont mean to offend tha intelligent brothas here on destee.

Maybe I need a Destee Man in my life, ya think?

I mean, WHAT is going on with our black relationships? WHY are they filled with such DRAMA....WHY are our black men, looked down upon and WHAT can we do about it?

and please...if you disagree with this thread, then keep it movin, cas I aint tryin to hear it. I live in REALITY.


Hey Sweetie, I just had to come back and post to this thread!! I know where you can find some REAL black men... They are hangin out in the HOW TO LOVE A BLACK WOMAN thread.... LOL.. ROTF... Ok seriously, they're all from the same place RICH is from! Just jokin, but 4real though! I mean, don't get me wrong, there are a lot of good men everywhere you look, everywhere you turn! Honestly, they have decent intentions, but some givein into what society has said that men are dogs, uneducated and live in poverty and a life of crime! There are hardly any positve images of black men, so how are we gonna believe in them or they of themselves! I don't really believe it myself. I believe that some men just didn't learn that lesson. There is good in every man, but they have to be willing to push past the negativity they made them not believe in themselves!! I'm sure, not all of them had a rough childhood,or no father's to emulate a positive pattern behind in their lives! Some really care and want to be good husbands, fathers, brothers, uncles and sons! But maybe they just don't have the tools and are simply doing the best they can, with what they have! While others have succumbed to the pressures of society and racsism, and the prison system. From the begining, black men didn't have a chance, but since we are strong people naturally, we persevered against the odds.I still believe wholeheartedly in the black man, and as a black woman I realize the significance and importance of being behind a black man and sometimes still showing some love and support even when at times they don't deserve it. I also believe there a lot of crack babies that have grown up from the effects of the drug epidemic of the early 80's! A lot of parents on drugs, dead or in jail! Some just simply weren't taught HOW to be a MAN! So there are a lot of dynamics in play here. I try to be open to talk with the young men and they amaziningly open up! Not to just skool them but give them a chance to be heard and express their pain and disappointments in life!
This is just my opinion, it doesn't make it a fact, it is just my observation, of why it is difficult for the REAL BLACK MAN to stand up! He's out there, he really is.. (Smiles);)