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Amun-Ra
12-04-2001, 05:26 PM
The Bible is the one book most likely to be found in the home of African Americans. It is the world’s best selling book and African Americans seem to read it more than the rest of the country and among households which own a Bible, blacks are more than likely to have at least three. African Americans homes are also among the least likely to own a dictionary.

On the surface, it appears that African Americans are more religious than white America and statistics tend support that idea. However, social statistics for crime, illegitimate births, drug use and illicit sex say otherwise. Still, there is no doubting that African Americans, for the most part, talk a good game and have all the right equipment, but have African Americans placed all their bets on their being an afterlife, while it seems that all those who prosper are doing so in the here and now.

Statistics for praying and reading the Bible vary widely as 94 percent of African Americans reported praying regularly compared to the national average of 77 percent and were twice as likely compared to other Americans to have read from the Bible in the past week. The national average for Bible readership is 31 percent. Research also showed that blacks are more likely to believe the Bible is totally accurate 64-41 percent compared to whites showing a considerable gap in those who believe the Bible to be inerrant.

The key interest here is the number of people who have never read the Bible or the Koran and believe that either of these books might hold the answers to the worlds problem is akin to guessing the color of the sunset without seeing it or based on the sense of touch—it has no basis for any conclusion. When it comes to the Bible, most people, including regular church attendees are unaware of the raw sexuality, brutality or carnage of the Bible because those parts are normally overlooked or glossed over.

Almost every household, 92 percent, in America has a copy of the Bible, including the homes of atheists and agnostics. However, according to a Gallup poll, overall readership of the Bible has declined since the 1980s from 73 percent to 59 percent today while the same poll says that 65 percent of Americans say that the Bible "answers all or most of the basic questions of life." Interestingly, 28 percent of those who agreed with this said they rarely read the Bible or never read it.

George Gallup Jr., son of the founder of the Gallup Organization said there is vast difference "between Americans stated faith and their lack of the most basic knowledge about that faith.” Americans ignorance of the Bible can be shown in that 12 percent of adults believe that Joan of Arc was Noah's wife and only 42 percent of adults know that the Sermon on the Mount was preached by Jesus.

The ubiquitous Bible is not only the best selling book in the world; it is also the most translated book in the world. It has been translated into more than 40 languages including Chinese and Braille. It decorates millions of coffee tables and bookshelves in the United State and often serves as a diary for family history. It populates courthouses and legislative digs where it is revered as talisman of truth. It is sworn on, used as a judicial prop and bumped on the heads of children during solemn events. It comes in a variety of colors including red, white and blue with gold edged pages and even tabs. It ranges in size from small enough to fit in a pocket to large enough to require both hands to lift it.

However, the one thing that seems to be missing is that not everyone agrees with it, understands it or even actually reads it. As the numbers indicate, for many the Bible serves no other purpose than as a conversation piece or political decoration. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, the Bible is filled with glaring contradictions, bad science and numerous errors, that will not go away no matter how sincere or fervent the belief. Still, even with the number of people who claim to read the Bible, these things seem to go unnoticed, except among Biblical scholars whose research rarely reaches the regular reader of the Bible.

Interestingly, nearly all of the participants for this writing including nonbelievers and freethinkers claimed and demonstrated extensive knowledge of the Bible including its many contradictions and errors. Not only were they familiar with its contents, the majority possessed knowledge that extended well past the Bible and included the study of works by various theologians, sociologists and historians, as well as noted scientists, philosophers and humanists.

Education also has a direct influence on religious belief throughout the world, with the uneducated tending to have higher belief rates than those with advanced education. Of the nearly nine out of ten people who define themselves as Christians, seventy-two percent of Americans with a high school education or less believed the Bible to be totally accurate while only 46 percent of Americans with postgraduate degrees felt the same. Nationally, less than half of all adults (41 percent) believe the Bible is totally accurate in all it teaches.

One of the most remarkable and controversial aspects of Christianity insights into America's faith is the fact that less than half of all adults (40 percent) are convinced that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life during his life on earth which is a direct contradiction of everything Christianity teaches about its namesake—Jesus.

Another interesting anomaly is that most Americans do not accept evangelism as a personal responsibility even though the call for personal evangelism stems from the Bible and its call to go forth unto all nations spreading the word of God. It is controversial because it often seems to be in conflict with individual privacy. Only one-third (32 percent) claim they have an obligation to share their religious faith with those who believe differently.

Reflecting the continued dominance of women in the church, research shows that women are twice as likely to read the Bible than men and that blacks are more likely to read the Bible than whites. Barna commented that the survey challenges some widely held assumptions. "Charismatic and Pentecostal churches are often characterized as attracting people who respond on the basis of emotions but who lack strong biblical training.”

dbaraka
12-05-2001, 03:47 AM
This is a subject that sometimes causes hard feelings.And if it contradicts a persons belief systemm,forget it!! A friend of mine,who is from West Afrika did make an interesting statement.He said that when the white man cam to Afrika ,the white man had religion and the Black man had the land,now the Black man has the religion and the white man has the land.That's something to think about.:heart:

Amun-Ra
12-05-2001, 08:24 AM
Years ago when we hadn't set foot on the moon, Dick Gregory speculated that if they landed there we would know if there were any black people on the moon because the next ship would be filled with Bibles and watermelon. It was a pointed joke, but I am afraid that there is much truth in it. It seems that we are very familiar with the Bible, but not familiar with the Wall Street Journal. As much as an afterlife an redemption appeal to some, it is not in the here and now which is where we all must live until we die. I could go on about this but I won't.

Ra


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dbaraka
12-06-2001, 03:34 AM
I could not agree more my brother.I want my reward in the here and now.I don't want wait to die to get that pie in the sky.:heart:

Amun-Ra
12-06-2001, 09:19 PM
Only a few people know and they are living it up, plus you and me, can't let it get out or they'll be trying to horn in on all the good times--seriously--some folks think that it is their place to suffer in the here and now and that retribution (the big pay back) will occur in the future when allwrongs will be made right--I can't make it that long when it's available here and now as Luther says.

Ra

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Amun-Ra
04-29-2002, 03:22 PM
I certainly agree with the learning and teaching. To do less is irresponsible and not in our own best interests. If we are totaly selfish about it, education is what gets us ahead. For whatever reason a person chooses to learn more, I am for it, just as long as people get an education of some type. It should be apparrent that those who get ahead in this world are ether smarter or more ruthless than others or a combination of both. If you can't think, you are doomed to second place finishes and hind teat. Not all education is in books, but a good portion lies there and the rest we get through living.

Ra:x:

IssaEl22
05-01-2004, 04:20 AM
These Are Some Of The Books I'm Reading And Studying
1) Hebrew - Greek Keyword Study Bible .
2 ) El's Holy Injiyl
3 ) El's Holy Torah The Five Books Of Moses , Bara****h / Shimut / Wayika / Bimidbar / Dibarim
4) El's Holy Qur'aan
5 ) The Dead Sea Scroll
6) Atra -Hasis Tables / Enuma Elish Tablets
7 El Katub Shil El Mawui = The Book Of The Dead < Egyptian >
8) El's Holy Tehillim ( Zabuwr ) Psalms David
I Love Reading About Our Nubian Culture / Our - History , And Not His - Story

Amun-Ra
05-03-2004, 05:13 PM
Pro and Con

I have read many of the books you are starting to read and they are excellent resources. However, I didn't notice any books that are on the other side of the aisle. When researching a subject, I like to see what the other side has to say and if they have any valid points. Over the years, I found myself reading things that only validated my point of view. I stopped doing that so that I might understand the point of view that didn't agree with mine.

Just a note: Be careful when reading about our culture. Many of the writers who supply information are little more than cheerleaders with a biased point of view, which is just as bad as the white writers who research some of these same items. Bad facts from either side contribute nothing to our understanding of ourselves.

Amun-Ra

IssaEl22
05-03-2004, 10:53 PM
Thankyou And I Appreciate Your Concern , But Those Are Just A Few Of The Books I Have An Are Reading , I Don't Only Read About Nubian Culture's I Also Read About Other To Get A Better OverStanding Why The Eat / Dress Pray / History Etc . Me Being A Nubian I Want To Know About Self And My Nubians Brother & Sister First .. And Yes I Agree One Must Not Believe EveryThing They Write Or Anyone For That Matter , For I Was Told This By My Mother & Father But To Question EveryThing & And Everyone & ReSearch Same . I Also Pay Close Attention On Whats Going On Around The World. And Don't Let Myself Be Brain Wash By The Media / T.V./ Papers / Radio .
Because Of The Tricknowledge Is Being Play People ... :thanks:


Zi - Kalana - Sharufun - Liyya -Laguy - Antuk - Amun - Ra = It Was An Honor To Meet You ...

MrBlak
05-26-2004, 09:21 PM
This is a subject that sometimes causes hard feelings.And if it contradicts a persons belief systemm,forget it!! A friend of mine,who is from West Afrika did make an interesting statement.He said that when the white man cam to Afrika ,the white man had religion and the Black man had the land,now the Black man has the religion and the white man has the land.That's something to think about.:heart:


I think that is an excellent statement. Thankyou for posting this. I really wish blacks would put even half as much time into educating their kids as they do reading the bible and dragging the kids to chruch. If they did, it would not matter that the public school system in north america fails blacks constantly, becuase the parents would pick up the slack and the kids would stay afloat.

:toast: :toast:

Amun-Ra
06-29-2004, 12:17 AM
There is a sinilar cooment from a slave captured in Anthony's Pinn's book Expressions of African American Humanism. In the book a slave master asks the slave why he quit believing in God and the slave aswered saying that the Christians in Alabama treated him so bad, that he firgured when he got to Mississippi he wanted to make sure he didn't take sides.

Ra

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rhymebad
09-17-2007, 10:47 PM
nothing is wrong with the bible if it's used right and explained correct god siad I'm am the beginnin;g and the end alfa and omega (now is a person or group studied the book of genesis which formed the world most of the answers are there such as marriage, sex and the job of the evil one (then study the book of revelations which shows how man lost control and started worshipping computers and other men on the religious order which are not holy such as crooked preachers and false prophets the wrld would be much better to live in (plus after studying these two books you will understand everything else in the bible very easy all the answers are there and remember the love of money is the root of all evil

Amun-Ra
09-18-2007, 01:23 AM
Normally, I'd give a long repy, but as many times as I've read the Bible, versions of the Bible and translations the Bible, I know two things--one, it is filled with errors, contradictions, horrific morality and bad science. The second thing I know, is never try to change anyone's mind about it. So, I'll let this one pass.

Amun-ra

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Jaisolovely
09-18-2007, 06:40 PM
I always see these words or something similar to them like "hotep" & "Absalom" and I want to know what language is this?
Zi - Kalana - Sharufun - Liyya -Laguy - Antuk - Amun - Ra = It Was An Honor To Meet You ...

Amun-Ra
09-18-2007, 11:46 PM
"Assalamu Alaikum" is an Islamic greeting which mean "peace be to you." I am unfamiliar with "Absalom" other than as the 3rd son of King David in the Bible and that would make it Hebrew. Hotep is Kemetic or ancient Egyptian for "peace" and that's the simple answer. In Arabic there is also "Assalam."

Amun-Ra--God of Kings and King of Gods. The oldest and longest venerated ruler of ancient Egypt, Amun, meaning "hidden" and Ra meaning "light" translates to "hidden light".

Bootzey
04-30-2008, 04:49 PM
Our people would do better if they broadened their horizons some. I read a lot of everything. You name it, with the exception of Islam, I have read and continue to read something on it. The Kybalion stands out as something I consistently go back to.

Ra Amen Hotep
07-03-2008, 09:42 PM
The Bible is manipulated and twisted to fit people who want power. However, that is not to say that their aren't valuable lessons to be learned in the teachings. As with any religious text, their has to be a spiritual base there to guide your understanding. This is why the ancestors placed such an emphasis on knowing thy self.

ru2religious
07-04-2008, 06:01 AM
The Bible is manipulated and twisted to fit people who want power. However, that is not to say that their aren't valuable lessons to be learned in the teachings. As with any religious text, their has to be a spiritual base there to guide your understanding. This is why the ancestors placed such an emphasis on knowing thy self.

Go within or you will go without ... Note that I read the bible and actually host a class that I teach from. I use the bible not as the representation of fact, but to show our lost brothas and sistas how we've been lied to. I also show how the so-called Hebrews were simply the High Priest of On (Location: Lower Km.t).

I never debate those who choose to uphold a lie vs. truth. The truth is that if we don't go within ourselves then we will forever be lost to those who which to keep us flat lined. The only book that should be read as a learning tool is the book within you, because that book holds all answers to all questions.

Go within, the answer are there; read the book!


Peace and love

cherryblossom
10-04-2009, 03:00 AM
.....The ubiquitous Bible.....


AMEN!

No matter what, the Bible is ever-present!

And especially here on Destee.com, no matter one's belief system, many vehemently oppose the Bible yet they can't stay away from it.

RAPTOR
10-04-2009, 10:22 AM
....no matter one's belief system, many vehemently oppose the Bible yet they can't stay away from it.

Well cherryblossom,

I'm not sure what that means.

I'm oppose to hitler, yet I have his book, "mein kampf".

I'm not a fan of karl marx, yet I have "the communist manifesto".

Skinheads/KKK are my enemies, yet I have "the turner diaries".

I say that to say this....The bible is after all a piece of literature.

I have several versions myself, from douay-rheims to tyndale.
As with the qu'ran and rig veda etc.

It's like what Amun-Ra said about reading what the "otherside" has to say and not reading things that only validated ones own point of view.

HOTEP

cherryblossom
10-04-2009, 10:34 AM
Well cherryblossom,

I'm not sure what that means.

I'm oppose to hitler, yet I have his book, "mein kampf".

I'm not a fan of karl marx, yet I have "the communist manifesto".

Skinheads/KKK are my enemies, yet I have "the turner diaries".

I say that to say this....The bible is after all a piece of literature.

I have several versions myself, from douay-rheims to tyndale.
As with the qu'ran and rig veda etc.

It's like what Amun-Ra said about reading what the "otherside" has to say and not reading things that only validated ones own point of view.

HOTEP

Well, Raptor

I can see that you're still not sure what I meant.

RAPTOR
10-04-2009, 10:40 AM
Well, Raptor

I can see that you're still not sure what I meant.

Well, don't leave me hangin'.

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