http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H11x6bMu4Y

Incase it dont work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H11x6bMu4Y

When we are reincarnated is it possible for us to choose to come back as Caucasian?

I suppose in theory we can, but then that throws most of what I believe in the trash. So...... No

CHAOS

YES THE SOUL CAN GO INTO THE SO CALLED WHITE BODY. CROWLEY SAID HIS SOUL WAS A BLACK MAN. CARL JUNG BEFORE HE DIED IN 1961 SAID HIS SOUL WAS A BLACK MAN. HOW YOU THINK THEY WAS ABLE TO ACCESS SO MUCH HIDDEN KNOWLEDGE.

CHAOS

I KNOW WE ALL KNOW A SO CALLED WHITE PERSON WHO FOR SOME "CRAZY" REASON YOU HAVE A CONNECTION WITH AND HAVE A "BLACK'' DISPOSITION. I REMEMBER WHEN TEENA MARIE CAME OUT AND NO ONE SEEN HOW SHE LOOK BUT HEARD HER SONGS ON THE RADIO, EVERYONE IN THE HOOD WAS LIKE WHO THIS BLACK WOMAN AND EVERYONE WAS CRANKING HER STUFF. WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU FOUND OUT WAS SHE WAS A 5'0" "WHITE" WOMEN. YOU CONTINUE TO CRANK HER STUFF.

CHAOS

I KNOW WE ALL KNOW A SO CALLED WHITE PERSON WHO FOR SOME "CRAZY" REASON YOU HAVE A CONNECTION WITH AND HAVE A "BLACK'' DISPOSITION. I REMEMBER WHEN TEENA MARIE CAME OUT AND NO ONE SEEN HOW SHE LOOK BUT HEARD HER SONGS ON THE RADIO, EVERYONE IN THE HOOD WAS LIKE WHO THIS BLACK WOMAN AND EVERYONE WAS CRANKING HER STUFF. WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU FOUND OUT WAS SHE WAS A 5'0" "WHITE" WOMEN. YOU CONTINUE TO CRANK HER STUFF.

True indeed.

I suppose in theory we can, but then that throws most of what I believe in the trash. So...... No

What do you believe?

I believe that we choose our incarnations. To learn the lessons that we need. When we have learned what we need. We can become spirit guides, guardian angels, or just chill basking in the Source of it All.

I believe that we choose our incarnations. To learn the lessons that we need. When we have learned what we need. We can become spirit guides, guardian angels, or just chill basking in the Source of it All.

How is your belief effected by a black person choosing to return as a white person?

I KNOW WE ALL KNOW A SO CALLED WHITE PERSON WHO FOR SOME "CRAZY" REASON YOU HAVE A CONNECTION WITH AND HAVE A "BLACK'' DISPOSITION.

Not me and I have worked with plenty of white people. I even tried to be buddies with one by letting him come into my studio and do a little jam session. Don’t you know he went back and told the boss that I had stolen furniture from work and put them in my studio?

Luckily I had my receipts from when the company sold a lot of old chares and furniture.

But that white boys whole game was to try in making me look bad in front of the boss.

I have never met a white man that I have a black link with. But who knows may be in the future.

How is your belief effected by a black person choosing to return as a white person?

I consider white people to be souless, beastial and working at a spiritual deficit. Therefore it would be incompatible for a black person to come back in a white incarnation.

I consider white people to be souless and working in a spiritual deficit

lol... you got right to the point with your definition..lololol

I consider white people to be souless, beastial and working at a spiritual deficit. Therefore it would be incompatible for a black person to come back in a white incarnation.

I kinda feel that way to but how can we make a case?

I have seen DNA debates that reveal the white race comes from mixing Africans and Neanderthal DNA. To this day there are secretive debates about why the white race has more of the DNA of the Neanderthal then any other race.

Maybe they retain more of the animal then of the African?

I don’t know if I would call them soulless because we haven’t really defined the difference between a soul and a spirit unless you have some suggestions?

I kinda feel that way to but how can we make a case?

I have seen DNA debates that reveal the white race comes from mixing Africans and Neanderthal DNA. To this day there are secretive debates about why the white race has more of the DNA of the Neanderthal then any other race.

Maybe they retain more of the animal then of the African?

I don’t know if I would call them soulless because we haven’t really defined the difference between a soul and a spirit unless you have some suggestions?

Why do we have to make the case? They are on the way out and they know it.

The more folks do research, the more The Yakub controversy seems legit.

When I say 'souless' I mean what it implies, but also I mean 'flavorless'. When white folks have the means to do anything, it's always a watered down version to anything Original people do.

I don't want to appear like a bigotted racist. I don't believe that that applies. I just prefer my people to the others.

Why do we have to make the case? They are on the way out and they know it.

The more folks do research, the more The Yakub controversy seems legit.

When I say 'souless' I mean what it implies, but also I mean 'flavorless'. When white folks have the means to do anything, it's always a watered down version to anything Original people do.

I don't want to appear like a bigotted racist. I don't believe that that applies. I just prefer my people to the others.

I think there will be Caucasians in the New Israel. One of the reasons GOD sent us out into the earth is to save much people alive.

No one thinks you’re a begot. I to have found you can’t study theology without looking at and separating the history of each race.

I think there will be Caucasians in the New Israel. One of the reasons GOD sent us out into the earth is to save much people alive.

No one thinks you’re a begot. I to have found you can’t study theology without looking at and separating the history of each race.

I don't remember where I read this. It was a hermetic source. I wrote it down though. It said... "When man's Energy saw nature, he fell in love with it and wanted to dwell there. When he did, he became slave to it's limitations such as gender and sleep."

I felt led to post it. Does this have anything to do with the mission to save? Who is to be saved and from what? Who was sent and by whom?

I believe in reincarnation and there are many many cases as documented proof of it, while there case or bases that white people have no souls. Alot of the stuff I read on here reminds me of the rediculous pseudo sciences of white people concerning our origins, intelligence and whether or not we have souls. I believe that we choose our incarnations as well and that this life in the physical is a small portion of the "real" spiritual experience race has no place outside of the physical body especially not on the otherside. These things only bind and confine us here on earth. If a person is bitter and stuck on or about things that are earthly upon death, then the chances of that person moving on quickly deminish. Once the cord has been severed we realize what little role earthly things play in our "souls" journey. There are those ofcourse who carry reminants of their past lives that affect them in this life; Such as things that happen to them that had a traumatic effect remain an underlying issue for problems in their current incarnation. One example is a person being afraid of hieghts, may have fallen to their death in a past life. I remember watching Oprah not to long ago they were discussing the same subject. A man discovered that the reason for his rift between he and his sister lay in the past, where she was a stranger whom he witnessed being raped but did nothing to help and was killed shortly thereafter.

I don't remember where I read this. It was a hermetic source. I wrote it down though. It said... "When man's Energy saw nature, he fell in love with it and wanted to dwell there. When he did, he became slave to it's limitations such as gender and sleep."

I felt led to post it. Does this have anything to do with the mission to save? Who is to be saved and from what? Who was sent and by whom?

The Old Testament, the Dogon and the San Bushman reveal ideas that humans were disconnected from Nature or the Ether.

We wouldn’t even know what was eatable and un-eatable in the woods if we didn’t have a book but yet all of these people are talking about spirituality, iiiiii don’t know.

I believe in reincarnation and there are many many cases as documented proof of it, while there case or bases that white people have no souls. Alot of the stuff I read on here reminds me of the rediculous pseudo sciences of white people concerning our origins, intelligence and whether or not we have souls. I believe that we choose our incarnations as well and that this life in the physical is a small portion of the "real" spiritual experience race has no place outside of the physical body especially not on the otherside. These things only bind and confine us here on earth. If a person is bitter and stuck on or about things that are earthly upon death, then the chances of that person moving on quickly deminish. Once the cord has been severed we realize what little role earthly things play in our "souls" journey. There are those ofcourse who carry reminants of their past lives that affect them in this life; Such as things that happen to them that had a traumatic effect remain an underlying issue for problems in their current incarnation. One example is a person being afraid of hieghts, may have fallen to their death in a past life. I remember watching Oprah not to long ago they were discussing the same subject. A man discovered that the reason for his rift between he and his sister lay in the past, where she was a stranger whom he witnessed being raped but did nothing to help and was killed shortly thereafter.

The thread is about reincarnation so I would assume posters believe in it. We are addressing the question of rather or not a person that was African can return as a person that is Caucasian.

What do you think and why?

The thread is about reincarnation so I would assume posters believe in it. We are addressing the question of rather or not a person that was African can return as a person that is Caucasian.

What do you think and why?


lol I got carried away I thought I had addressed that when i said we choose our incarnations. But yea I do think you can be reincarnated as a white person or any other kind of person anywhere on the planet. I believe we all choose our parents as well.

What about reincarnation as a plant like a tree or something. Some believed people could be incarnated into things like rocks, etc.

tyab14:
What about reincarnation as a plant like a tree or something. Some believed people could be incarnated into things like rocks, etc.

I would say that would be a big incompatibility.


Each1teach1:
anywhere on the planet.

As for this earth; how do we know we are bound only to this planet?
The Dogon Song confirms 14 planets with humanoid life forms between Earth and Sirius.

I would say that would be a big incompatibility.


As for this earth; how do we know we are bound only to this planet?
The Dogon Song confirms 14 planets with humanoid life forms between Earth and Sirius.

thats a good question ive heard that people choose somewhere else to incarnate as well but havent read anything on it. Tyab14, i dont know about that either, but i think that animal spirits are the most pure and dont need to reincarnate because they pretty much live on both sides of the boundaries btw the realms. When they die, the move on automatically and become totems, protectors or whatever they wish, but thats jmo. Inanimate objects such as rocks i dont think so. Trees and other living organism, well we become trees when we die, well we used to when we were really interned back into the earth.

what really showed me that rebirth/reincarnation was real was astrology.

karma powers astrology & rebirth is the effect of karma.

that's as deep as i will go for now..unless someone asks me to clarify. :run:

what really showed me that rebirth/reincarnation was real was astrology.

karma powers astrology & rebirth is the effect of karma.

that's as deep as i will go for now..unless someone asks me to clarify. :run:

Clarify.

karma powers astrology & rebirth is the effect of karma.


There have been discussions on here and some people don't even agree that the concept of karma even exists.

Can you explain how karma power astrology? And how rebirth is the effect of it also?

Clarify.

so as to speak with too much astro-lingo... :run:

if a person in this life is heavily into music,
they could be born next life under the rule of one of the venusian signs.

like taurus, or libra...

or they could have venus in their 1st house....

or they could have a really strong venus in their chart like Sean Combs..
he has an Exalted Venus in his chart...

as we sow, we reap. that's karma (action/reaction)...

if we sow musical seeds, they will sprout next lifetime as musical gifts...

the planets act as karmic relay stations...

they give us back our past-life karmas....

the goal of astrology is Self-knowledge...
to free ourselves from the grip of the planets & our past-life karmas...
Self-knowledge dissolve karma because it dissolves the illusory " I ".

otherwise, we are walking karmic automatons...

in india, planets are not called wanderers.

they are called "seizers".
they grab our astral body & force us to act out our past-life karmas...

each planet will grab a different chakra/sephira/etc...
& tweak it according to past-life influences...

mars will grab you & make you a soldier, or cop, ...
the sun will grab you & make you want to become famous....
venus will grab you & make you want lots of luxuries...

this is a complicated subject...too much to clarify in 1 post...
i will clarify more & more in subsequent posts...

words are not always the best things to use when explaining causal things..

ok, i tried... will try more later :cardio:

There have been discussions on here and some people don't even agree that the concept of karma even exists.

Can you explain how karma power astrology? And how rebirth is the effect of it also?

no problemo... karma isn't a belief.

well, it is until one sees it in action enough times..

karma powers astrology?

karma is just the law of cause & effect. as you sow, so shall you reap.

that's it. we are sowing all the time. mentally, physically, emotionally, etc..

they bring their own...
a depressing thought will trigger certain glands
in your body to make you feeel depresssed...

an apple seed will produce an apple tree
(only non-gmo apple seeds though :haha: )

rebirth?

desires...bring you back....

what is a desire? contemplate that....

we always get what we want, eventually...

will speak more later... fingers going numb :wave:

so as to speak with too much astro-lingo... :run:

if a person in this life is heavily into music,
they could be born next life under the rule of one of the venusian signs.

like taurus, or libra...

or they could have venus in their 1st house....

or they could have a really strong venus in their chart like Sean Combs..
he has an Exalted Venus in his chart...

as we sow, we reap. that's karma (action/reaction)...

if we sow musical seeds, they will sprout next lifetime as musical gifts...

the planets act as karmic relay stations...

they give us back our past-life karmas....

the goal of astrology is Self-knowledge...
to free ourselves from the grip of the planets & our past-life karmas...
Self-knowledge dissolve karma because it dissolves the illusory " I ".

otherwise, we are walking karmic automatons...

in india, planets are not called wanderers.

they are called "seizers".
they grab our astral body & force us to act out our past-life karmas...

each planet will grab a different chakra/sephira/etc...
& tweak it according to past-life influences...

mars will grab you & make you a soldier, or cop, ...
the sun will grab you & make you want to become famous....
venus will grab you & make you want lots of luxuries...

this is a complicated subject...too much to clarify in 1 post...
i will clarify more & more in subsequent posts...

words are not always the best things to use when explaining causal things..

ok, i tried... will try more later :cardio:

Okay I must respond to this on first read.

I was born with Moon in Venusian sign of Taurus.

My birth Mom is a Taurus.

Moon rules/influenced emotional nature. Mine is deeply into music but not 'traditional'. Avante garde jazz, blues, indie hip hop and some religious/New Age/Contemporary Christian. World and Reggae. I am musically all over the place and even can get into some Ray Charles country and blues.

But the musical influence comes more from being a musician among musicians on my Dad's side, even thoguh Mom exposed me to a lot of early SOUL music and Blues (for example, Dinah Washington).

Well, I also have Jupiter in Libra. Another musical influence.

So, I have a different take and cant see karma as something specifically resulting from past-life because I think while living in the present we undergo transformations shedding some karma like dead skin, while the physical body remains in tact, even though it also is transforming. This is rebirth and regeneration which does manifest physically. Not just spiritually.

just my 2 cents which ain't worth much these days.

I think there will be Caucasians in the New Israel. One of the reasons GOD sent us out into the earth is to save much people alive.

No one thinks you’re a begot.

If it walks like a duck , and it quacks ...

If it walks like a duck , and it quacks ...



LMAO!! oh that response was hilarious....

The Old Testament, the Dogon and the San Bushman reveal ideas that humans were disconnected from Nature or the Ether.

We wouldn’t even know what was eatable and un-eatable in the woods if we didn’t have a book but yet all of these people are talking about spirituality, iiiiii don’t know.

I don't think we choose because it is illogical for Clearance Thomas, Armstrong Williams, Condaleeza Rice and a host of other black people who aspire to be white to have chosen to be black. Likewise, Eminem, MC Search, and a few other whites would have chosen to be black.

It is hysterical to say that we wouldn't know what to eat and what not to if we didn't have books....umm there were no printing presses before Gutenberg...so MOST were illiterate...and even if they weren't you have to ASSUME that they read the books in order to gain knowledge. You have a very narrow minded view.

so as to speak with too much astro-lingo... :run:

if a person in this life is heavily into music,
they could be born next life under the rule of one of the venusian signs.

like taurus, or libra...

or they could have venus in their 1st house....

or they could have a really strong venus in their chart like Sean Combs..
he has an Exalted Venus in his chart...

as we sow, we reap. that's karma (action/reaction)...

if we sow musical seeds, they will sprout next lifetime as musical gifts...

the planets act as karmic relay stations...

they give us back our past-life karmas....

the goal of astrology is Self-knowledge...
to free ourselves from the grip of the planets & our past-life karmas...
Self-knowledge dissolve karma because it dissolves the illusory " I ".

otherwise, we are walking karmic automatons...

in india, planets are not called wanderers.

they are called "seizers".
they grab our astral body & force us to act out our past-life karmas...

each planet will grab a different chakra/sephira/etc...
& tweak it according to past-life influences...

mars will grab you & make you a soldier, or cop, ...
the sun will grab you & make you want to become famous....
venus will grab you & make you want lots of luxuries...

this is a complicated subject...too much to clarify in 1 post...
i will clarify more & more in subsequent posts...

words are not always the best things to use when explaining causal things..

ok, i tried... will try more later :cardio:

So does this mean, Once a serial killer; Always a serial killer?

I don't think we choose because it is illogical for Clearance Thomas, Armstrong Williams, Condaleeza Rice and a host of other black people who aspire to be white to have chosen to be black. Likewise, Eminem, MC Search, and a few other whites would have chosen to be black.

Don't think of it as conscious choice. Think of it as unconscious attraction.

We, you and I, are not defined by our physical vessel. Hence, it would not be a "black" being who chooses the next vessel for reincarnation. The true essence of our being, the Self, is beyond race and gender. After the demise of the mortal vessel, the Immortal Self --- which is beyond death and the grave --- _attracts_ a body for its next incarnation which matches up to the mental impressions accumulated in previous lifetimes.

Have you ever known a woman who seems to attract abusive men, or players? It is not so much that she consciously seeks out such men. It is that her subconscious wants and desires dwell on the bad boys. And, hence, e-motional power being _strong_ spiritual energy, she draws such men to herself.

We have all known white people who look down on black people consciously, yet yearn to be like us subconsciously [which explains the big money being made off tanning salons]. Upon death, it is these sort of unconscious desires which attract the vessel for their next incarnation. Hence, a Vanilla Ice type of white person might attract, for their next incarnation, a Clarence Thomas-esque black body. And, for similar reasons, upon his death, Clarence Thomas may attract an Anthony Scalia-esque white body for its next mortal vessel.

There is a chapter in the Bhagavad Gita which advises a dying man to fix his thoughts upon the Lord. This is because your last mental energies as a mortal have a significant effect on what happens next. Most people reincarnate after mortal death because their last mortal thoughts are upon themselves, or loved ones. as mortals.

"Remembering me as the time of death, close down the doors of the senses and place the mind in the heart. Then, while absorbed in meditation, focus all energy upwards to the head. Repeating in this state the divine name, the syllable OM that represents the changeless Brahman, you will go forth from the body and attain the supreme goal."

So does this mean, Once a serial killer; Always a serial killer?

not always...

the karma will burn out eventually...

or, via will/magick/etc, the karma can be resisted & redirected...

though, changing past-life karma can be very difficult.

try living the eneriges of a sign adjacent to your sun sign for 6 months as default...

if you are a gemini, try defaulting to taurean behavior...
if you are a scorpion, try defaulting to geminian behavior...

kinda hard :band:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H11x6bMu4Y

Incase it dont work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H11x6bMu4Y

When we are reincarnated is it possible for us to choose to come back as Caucasian?


Okay. I have worked this out in ,my mind.....

Since White folks are souless, they are incapable of a soul entering them in the 1st place. THERFORE those being reincarnated are Original souls incarnating only in Original bodies because they are the only ones available.

Relief.....

In rethinking this maybe it is not a good idea to claim white people don’t have souls. What happens when we get into someone who is mixed?

If my great, great, great grandmother was raped by a white man does that me I have less soul then an African who was never stolen from Africa?

Does that mean I am a diluted version of my ancestors?

What we thinking?

Some one who is mixed with Original people are capable, through that Original link to possess souls. Therefore, capable of reincarnation.

CHAOS

AGAIN LETS GO OVER THIS. THE SOUL IS THE PIECE OF MATERIAL THAT WAS HERE "BEFORE" THE CREATION OF "THIS" UNIVERSE. THE "SOUL" CAN GO IN ANY BODY IT WANTS BUT MAINLY WANT TO BE IN A "BLACK BODY"( WATCH THE MOVIE THE SKELETON KEY).DUE TO CROSS BREEDING AND OTHER FACTORS, TO SAY WHITE PEOPLE DONT HAVE SOULS IS FOOLISH AS MANY "WHITE" PEOPLE ARE NOT REALLY WHITE BUT IS CLASSIFIED "WHITE"(IRISH,SCOTTISH ETC...). IN ESSENCE IT IS UP TO THE "SOUL" WHERE IT WANTS TO RESIDE.

Hey I was smoking a joint (just kidding)…..

and I received a horrifying thought.

Will I loose all of my knowledge of GOD from this life when I am reincarnated?

Will I loose all of my knowledge from this life when I am reincarnated?

What if I am a Servant of Jesus all over again?
What if I come back an Atheist?

:SuN018:

CHAOS

THAT THE THING MUSIC PRODUCER, "YOU" DONT REINCARNATE, THE SOUL(ENTITY) DOES AND JUST LOOK FOR ANOTHER HOST TO LIVE IN. THE MEMORIES WAS NEVER YOURS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

CHAOS

THAT THE THING MUSIC PRODUCER, "YOU" DONT REINCARNATE, THE SOUL(ENTITY) DOES AND JUST LOOK FOR ANOTHER HOST TO LIVE IN. THE MEMORIES WAS NEVER YOURS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

So DarkSide, ;-)
If the soul looks for another host to live in, what are the "qualities" a soul would look for in a "body" to decide whether or not to dwell there? It seems like if a body is just a body then it wouldn't matter what race the soul would decide to come through. However, here, in this place, at this present time, race matters. So, I wonder if the soul knows what type race/body it is going to come through and if it does for a particular reason. I'm trying not to get mixed up.

I think every life we have ever lived is remembered right there in our brains but we have not developed the intellect and know how to access those memories.

When we become spiritual beings we have access to every life we have ever lived and have no problem accessing those memories.

When we are once again reincarnated those memories go back into a section of the brain we are unable to use or access.

All of the memories of all our lives exist in two places, GOD and the inaccessible place of our brain.

Just my invention and suspicions.

I think in the spirit world (after our physical death) that we can access every life we have lived and this access is as emotionally real as if we were back in the physical. Most spirits re-live emotionally the happiest life or point in that life.

The reason we choose to be reincarnated to the physical and loose our lives knowledge is because we began to miss the physical. We began to miss the mystery, fear, danger, challenge and pain. From this the physical begins to look more attractive because through the physical we can experience more levels of existence and we make the choice to die in the spiritual relationship with GOD and be reborn in the physical relationship with GOD and we continue this cycle until we recognize the Supreme Being at which point we become Servants of the Supreme Being but even steal we continue to have to return to the physical.

Just my personal invention and suspicion.

Peace.