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Amun-Ra
11-28-2001, 06:14 PM
I am turning into a crotchety old man because I hate the smell of men’s cologne. However, this causes a dilemma for me because my wife likes the smell of cologne on me and I like to please my wife. I don’t know what happened to me, but the smell of perfume and cologne is repugnant to me. As a kid, I always liked the smell of cologne. It was one of the ways I recognized my dad. I am not sure what kind of cologne he wore, but whenever I smelled it, I knew he was home because it smelled like him.

My favorite smells in cologne are thoroughly antiquated and out of date. I love the smell of Old Spice. It still has a fresh and manly smell to me that is at once distinctly robust but not overpowering or sweet. I do not know who made it, but to this day, I could easily pick out that memorable aroma in a room of other sashaying fragrances even as they tiptoed through the tulips.

Though it is robust and manly it is a subtle fragrance that is hard to place because it seems to mix so well with the body’s natural scent that it becomes different on each person who wears it.
Aqua Velva was good but it could not touch Old Spice. I tried English Leather but I ended up smelling like a horse instead of the leather used to saddle them. I liked the smell of a few colognes after that period, but I am no connoisseur because I also liked the smell of gasoline. Therefore, my nose is not that great and I don’t wear cologne except for my wife.

Nowadays I listen to women as they swoon over a particular fragrance a man is wearing. Whatever happened to butt watching? Now walking into a room filled with men and women is like strolling into an allergy garden packed with musk, spores, orders, aromas, smells and a primitive stench searching for olfactory dominance. In the old days, I would have said something inane or politically incorrect like “all the men smell like sissies,” but I know I would have insulted a few of my friends.

So, I have reached what is now an obvious conclusion, I am a “cologne bigot.” I hate it on men and especially on myself. Of course, that makes me a sexist because it implies that I think it is okay for women, which I don’t. I loved my mother’s perfume and the perfume that my wife so carefully selects but I prefer the smell of natural women to perfume. I have truly become a cologne bigot because I do not like it on anyone.

Perfume or cologne residue often greets me on the empty elevator when I get to work. It makes my nose tingle, my eyes water and my head ache. Fortunately, most people don’t follow the ways of the forefathers of this country who did not believe in bathing. In fact, they thought bathing caused sickness. Early American Indians found settlers quite offensive to the nose and were sure to stay down wind from them. However, this lack of bathing did not stop those who could afford it from liberally sprinkling cologne on top of body odor. It is still done to this day. Perhaps, some Indian heritage is making itself apparent in my olfactory senses.

Of course, my affliction helps me be sure of who my friends are and how they feel about me. I have made it known that I don’t care for cologne. As a gift, I consider it the equivalent of the tie with a dancing hula girl on it. However, despite my bigotry, I would accept a bottle of Old Spice if anyone wanted to give me one.

:D

Kitana
11-28-2001, 07:06 PM
thanks for the memory Ra...all my life , my Dad wore Old Spice..that red bottle with the white ship with big sails was a constant adornment on his dresser...and you never forget that smell, it is instantly recognisable....

as to your other comments..I guess it's a personal thing, whether you like to wear it or not..I like the title you give yourself..
"Cologne Bigot"...made me smile...

personally I'm a "JOOP" girl....don't wear it myself but like the smell of it on any man who walks by....

oh and just one other thing....butt watching is still alive and well..nuthing beats a tight butt in a pair of faded denim jeans..

K

Amun-Ra
11-28-2001, 11:24 PM
Old Spice does have that something special--I never quite figured it out, but for some reason it has a smell that I like and it is as old as Methusela--the cologne bigot especially dislikes men who bathe in cologne--I have a friend that if he shakes your hand it, your hand will smelllike him until you wash it--but all my all irritant is a woman who uses my telephone in my office andleaves perfume reeking from the ear piece--that one drives me nuts--I can't stand it--I want to track them down and wash them--it's like cigarette smoke is to some other people--the few cologne's I like are light--very light--so light that they almost don't have an aroma unless the breeze blows just right or unless you get just close enough--can't stand perfume or cologne that annouces someone before they enter a room and stays there after they are gone--that too **** much perfume and cologne!!!!!!

The Cologne Bigot--Amun-Ra :puke:

Amun-Ra
11-29-2001, 09:06 AM
Now dat's da bomb! Alitle Aqua Velva, Hai Karate or Canoe. English Leather (never worked for me)--Old Spice Lime and Bay Rum--now that's some old sh*t!--Just give me that fresh, soapy smell and I'm fine

The Cologne Bigot--Amun-Ra

:D

Amun-Ra
11-29-2001, 04:05 PM
Dat's the all-time number one! Brute! WHoooeeee! They could smell you coming from Afghanistan.

Ra

:x:

Kitana
11-29-2001, 04:07 PM
you two are turning this into a man thang....

how much can a lady say about mens cologne?..

except that I have to agree with Ra when you talk about Brut, Kem....that stuff just assaults your sense of smell...horrible...

K

Amun-Ra
11-29-2001, 04:16 PM
Here's a woman's that I despised--OPIUM--mercy, it lingered and lingered and lingered and lingered until it finally just came over and slapped you across the face--I danced with a girl and she put her cheek close to mine (not next, but close) and my wife and I ended up in a fight because she thought I had been laying up with some woman to have that much perfume on me--OPIUM--it would knock me to my knees and then kick me when I was down--it literally gave me a headache--Ra

:eek:

Kitana
11-29-2001, 05:30 PM
I'm a Red Door fan myself....but also like to dabble in Vanilla Fields..Vanderbilt and Ambush.....

and

have you noticed that some women/men can really wear a perfume/cologne..it like just floats on the breeze whenever they walk by..with other perfumes it just hits you way before you see the person wearing it....it's all about choosing the right perfume/cologne that suits you....and as you say...some just like their man or woman to smell au natural....

oh and Ra....have you seen in the old westerns how the cowboys used to go into the opium dens and when they come out they are slightly disorientated and out of whack, looks kinda funny....thats the picture I got from your description of your experience on the dancefloor...lol..made me smile....

and Kem...to be fair you will have to enlighten us as to what perfume you like a lady to wear...;)

Amun-Ra
11-29-2001, 06:30 PM
. . . some follks don't know that more isn't necessarily better--they don't understand what to be subtle means . . . speaking as a man, I like stuff that sneaks up on me--now let me clarify--a naked woman is not a sneak up on me thing--but she would sure get my attention--the question is, how long would she keep my attention--now, on the other hand--a woman who shows you just a little something, something--really get my attention because I want to see more. Show me just a hint of skin at the neck and I want to see everything and I will follow to get the chance, but when its available all at once--I am interested all at once and then gone--same thing for perfume--let it sneak up on me--let it be the sweet aroma that I can't find where it's coming from as I ride home still smelling you,but not for sure where it is coming from--let it be that scent that tweaks my nose when it brushes across the back of your neck, let it drift across my mind when I touch any spot that pulses--a fragrance of mystery just a like a woman or man of mystery--keeps them coming back--Ra

The Cologne Bigot--Amun-Ra

:blush:

Kitana
11-29-2001, 09:37 PM
I would have to agree with everything you have said....

so now we are getting down to the nitty gritty..

so the question is: not what perfume/cologne you like..but what type of perfume/cologne...

flowery, sweet, heady, spicy, strong, mild..or a combination...

or maybe we need to get into a lab somewhere and produce our own...all we need is beeswax and essential oils..or maybe we could look into adrostenone pheromone perfumes..there's an idea..:x:

never knew there was so much to know about wearing a certain perfume or cologne..but I'm learning..:)

K

Amun-Ra
11-29-2001, 11:53 PM
I like a smell that is light, fresh and clean. I very seldom wear cologne and the cologne I wear for my wife is Escape--I think--I haven'tlooked at the label very much--it doesn't seem to get in my way and probably no one smells it because they never say anything to me, but when I lie close to my wife at night she says I smell good and I take her word for it--I like the same kind of smell on a women--clean, fresh and even slightly soapy--maybe even a little outdoors smell--there are other fragrances a woman has naturally that makes her smell as a woman and I like those too--Ra

;)

Amun-Ra
11-30-2001, 04:51 PM
It wouldn't seem like much of a subject but men and cologne is tuff. How much to wear, what to wear, where to wear it, when to wear it--it's tuff.

Maybe that's why I don'tlike it. There are too many competing flavors and when they all get in one room--allergy time for me--Ra

:D

Kitana
11-30-2001, 07:07 PM
Kemetstry..I stand corrected by you as always..but in case you didn't notice the subject was broadened to include perfume...

in the initial post Ra talks about PERFUME, which if my memory serves me right is usually worn by females...

and I agree...musk gives off a great scent....so when you say it drives you wild...do you mean on women or on yourself?...

Ra...I'll agree with you again...the stronger cologne/perfumes have the same affect on me..being an asthmatic, makes it hard to put up with being in a room with a lot of overpowering smells of different scents/aromas...the lighter the scent, the better my airways like it....

K

Kitana
12-03-2001, 05:16 PM
Kemetstry..if I didn't know better I'd say you had an inferiority complex when it comes to women....you have a hard time having a casual debate about any topic...somewhere along the line you always have to attack them with derogatory comments....

I thought maybe this topic was one where you could let it go...but no....so if it suits you to call women stupid little names to boost your crotch grabbing, spitting, beer drinking, chest pounding male ego..then go ahead...

and if this is the way you treat all women, then a sniff of their perfume as they walk by is about all you're gonna get...so enjoy the aroma as it drifts on by....

and is it coincidental that you combine musk and animal behaviour together..makes me wonder...

oh and by the way...I must of missed the part where it said these forums were only open to comments by males...my bad...

K

$$RICH$$
12-03-2001, 05:21 PM
none of dat stuff burn my nose
but brute and ole spice was a
thang of da past dayz dad love him some spicy spice
yeap i too love a clean smelling woman after a bath
not all dat stuff and i have to say
some do smell **** good

give me my baby power
cocbutter lotion
and i'm all good and some stetson:D

Amun-Ra
12-04-2001, 08:16 AM
I know that many people complain about second hand smoke and it always amazes me that when you live in a city, second hand smoke is the least of your air quality problems considering smog and ozone. There is the real second hand smoke problem.

Now why did I say that? I said that because cologne and perfume cause major fits for me. I can tolerate a little scent, but a body bathed in cologne or perfume? I think I'd rather smell funky gym socks--at least that is natural.

I start sneezing, get sparkles before the eyes and then I get a headache. I'm starting a study on second-hand aromas. Most perfumes and colognes are made from things that have spores or float in the air which is why they are aromatic. Roses give off these spores as do a variety of other plants and living things. Ragweed and dandelion also float spores and they are usually included in the pollen count.

Just a personal thing with me. I'd never deny anyone the right to wear it, I just need to be able to find the nearest exit. Now, here is the ultimate test for me--riding in an elevator with a man or woman wearing too much cologne or perfume is like being trapped in an elevator with abunch of people who just attended the annual bean eating convention.

Ra

:D

Kitana
12-04-2001, 07:14 PM
As a rule, I am a fairly laid-back, open-minded, female....

I do not think I take women in general or myself too seriously and have often laughed at myself or along with others who have..
so therefore I have not sinned against myself!

I do however get annoyed when I am referred to in a derogatory way..."girly girl", I believe was your term...

I don't know whether you and I just have personalities that clash on every level or not, but, from replies and responses to forums you and I have responded in, you seem to take pleasure in putting women firmly in their place by whatever means necessary...if you can't do it with a valid argument, you resort to using stupid little terms to label them such as the one above...which I do not like...so if that is taking it tooo seriously..so be it...just for once I would like to see you debate a topic, using only your intelligence and not letting your male chauvanistic attitude get in the way..

TRY IT..YOU MIGHT LIKE IT...

Kitana
12-04-2001, 07:30 PM
facetious:trying to be funny at inappropriate times

sarcasm:bitter or wounding ironic language


you do the math....

K

Amun-Ra
12-04-2001, 07:46 PM
Hardly seems worth the effort--we all smile a little at out foilbles and then we can laugh at each other--peace--Ra

:)

Kitana
12-04-2001, 07:52 PM
but my reply was not over a little bit of funk water..it was over someones replies to my replies....

sorry if the converstaion was taken off track Ra...

K

Amun-Ra
12-04-2001, 08:04 PM
I'm Rodney Kinging hoping that we all can just get along--but I understand--Ra

;)

Amun-Ra
12-05-2001, 08:11 AM
Y'all toomuch--Ra

Kitana
12-05-2001, 05:34 PM
allow me to correct that statement....

SOME Men Goooooooooooooood
SOME Women Baaaaaaaaaaaaad

and vice versa...

and I'll go for ice-cream if it's double chocolate and you're buying...:x:

k

Amun-Ra
12-05-2001, 06:26 PM
When Sinbad had his annual throw down in Aruba, George Clinton was scheduled to perform. En route to Aruba, Dr. Funkenstein was asked to leave the American Airlines flight because he was a--ah--well--too funky! Of we know George is definitely funky, with Bootsy Collins, the Brides of Funkenstein and Dr. Funkenstein himself, but that is the music which can never be too funky, but what about ourselves. What is too much funk?

Sometimes a little manly or womanly odor is not unattractive, but how much is enough? Are you too strong when somebody can do chin-ups on your funk? Is just a little gym aroma attractive? When someone walks past the blind man does he sniff the air and say, "is that you Lucille?" How much funk is enough?

I've got to tell a short story. When I was young and would chase anything in a skirt, I once met a girl who was so fine she made my teeth hurt. ****! Lawd, she was fine. Anyway, I plotted on that girl for weeks until I finally had a chance to do the horizontal waltz with her. When she dropped her draws and bra, the funk rushed out and knocked me and my erection to the floor.

It was the first time I ever had a headache and couldn't participate in sex. I'm getting dizzy writing this when I think about it. Of course, being the dog that I was, I washed her *** and did it anyway, but that was an even bigger mistake. One we got her stirred up, centuries of funk found its way into the bedroom nearly asphyxiating me. That is too much funk.

Ra

:D

$$RICH$$
12-06-2001, 12:12 AM
I smell some cool water cologne
and y'all i'll buy the ice cream
double scoop chocolate for sista K
i take a scoop of walnut
but i still think dat old spice was da thang
den but now we got all kind of funky water
to slap on!!:lol:

Kitana
12-06-2001, 12:35 AM
I think a lot of it depends on the person....you get people who sweat and have a body odour, sometimes an unattractive one, and then you get people who sweat, and the smell is attractive...

as a general rule though, I think it's too much when it overpowers the airwaves...making it a cloying, sickly smell or one that assaults your sense of smell, and then it comes down to personal taste as well...if it's a smell you don't like anyway, then one drop is too much...

I think it's enough when the smell is pleasant and lingers in the air faintly, sometimes when it's a real nice smell you might wanna just get on and find out who's wearin it....

me...I still like the smell of Old Spice...and I just love the smell of Joop...

K

Kitana
12-06-2001, 12:40 AM
I have to warn ya..I like lots of ice-cream....and I wouldn't mind a chocolate thickshake to go with it....

meetin at the ice-cream parlour might be a problem though...you might have to pack mine in dry ice and airmail it to me....


K

$$RICH$$
12-06-2001, 12:54 AM
but check out dat ((stetson)) or (( arctic blue from paris))
and i will fly my 747 jet .....bringing u a tub of it ...make ya shakes
but u got that already when u walk gurl!!!.....luv ya K:D :heart:

Amun-Ra
12-06-2001, 09:01 AM
Now that was some stanky stuff-Ra

:D

epiphany
12-06-2001, 09:50 AM
Lol@Ra...

You tooooo funny
gots me crackin up ova heah
wit the story....

Epiphany :heart:

epiphany
12-06-2001, 10:14 AM
Was laughing and reading, forgot tha topic..
My favorite scents are fresh scents...
for women, I like floral, lilac, roses..
I like vanilla..I mostly go with scented lotions..
Perfumes...White Linen and Sand and Sable
Like Kitana, I also have asthma so strong overpowering
scents wreak havoc on my respiratory system...
when I was pregnant everytime I smelled Aviance I was
in the bathroom.....:puke:

I like a man to smell good......
there is nothin like a fresh smellin man too..:D
My favs are Polo, Joop, Perry Ellis and Paul Sebastion.

Epiphany :heart:

Amun-Ra
12-06-2001, 10:29 AM
I was an asthmatic and strong odors kick me in the butt--Ra

:)

Destee
12-06-2001, 01:26 PM
"seated her hair out" ... ???

what does that mean?

cocobutterskyn
12-06-2001, 03:38 PM
Too much funk is when its so profound you begin to think the funkiness is coming from you, so you lift up your arms(discretely of course) to see if Judy Armstrong has taken up residency.

My favorite cologne is Paul Sebastian for men....It's heavenly to smell a man wearing Paul Sebastian to pass by me....mmmmmm just rolls from my tongue. White Diamond is my favorite women's perfume, but due to allergies I'm nolonger able to wear it....Design is just right for my nasal tolerance. Too much cologne/perfume is when it's abusive to your senses....attacks the eyes and nose activating their defense mechanism, you know....eyes watering,nose sneezing and mouth coughing as an attempt to rid themselves of a hostile odor invasion.
What has always amazed me is....the defendant is CLUELESS! to the plaintiff's discomfort and continues to assault whomever they come in contact with.


Madd Holiday Greetings :heart:
CCBSKYN

Amun-Ra
12-06-2001, 06:29 PM
You don't know about sweatin' the hair out? When a man sweat the hair out it means he has made love to a woman so strong and powerful that the sweat from her head makes that perm go the way of Osama Bin Laden--it disappears. Perms can't stand up up under a rump shaken, bootie breakin', coochie takin', old fashioned, jump up and down in the groove screw. Whew! I hope that wasn't to indelicate.

Ra

:D

Amun-Ra
12-07-2001, 09:09 AM
Wheweee! Man, them things will kill you. It's a marathon. That's why I'm bald now, I sweated it all out! Lawd! Destee, I'm just funnin' ya, but LAWD! everybody needs at least one of those and then when your hair turnsto silver you can sit on the front porch in your chair with a big old grin on your face and everyone will wonder "what is that old woman smiling about."

NOTE: I hear the if you use a straightening iron that sweating it out can be dangerous because it causes the hair to nap up so strongly that it snaps back and can cause brain damage. Don't try this at home without competent supervision.

Ra

;)

UbZoRbShUn
11-17-2002, 07:58 PM
you went there. I agree with you on the colonge thing, but with me it's perfume. I don't care for it but hubby does. I have very sensistive skin and i have a tendacy to break out, no matter if it's real expensive or the 99 cent variety. I do however like hubby to dab a bit of Paul Sebastine or Carl Laugerfield. He has the good sense not to drown himself in it. My eyes to water, my nose drip and get this my throat gets all scratchy when I'm hit dead on by the smell. You dear friend are not alone. Soap and water!!!!!




One

wildflower7
11-21-2002, 04:09 PM
i love the smell of lagerfeld because that's the cologne my dad has always worn. when he strays from that, it's just all wrong. lagerfeld works well with his body chemestry. and that's the key, finding something that works well with your body chemestry. another thing, the smell of cologne/perfume is not supposed to enter a room before you and leave a room after you; it should be noticed only when someone is close to you.
i'm glad my husband doesn't wear cologne. one of the things that made me fall in love with him was that all he wore was speedstick by mennen (fresh scent) and he smelled soooo good and clean.
i'm very picky about perfume, there are only about 3 different scents i'll wear and 2 are made by the body shop.

Amun-Ra
11-22-2002, 08:10 AM
the smell of cologne/perfume is not supposed to enter a room before you and leave a room after you; it should be noticed only when someone is close to you.

you've captured it all right there--I like it when it sneaks up on me--but the fresh smell is even better--just deodorant and you--that's what makes me and Ebony (my wife) tick--Amun-Ra

;)

UbZoRbShUn
11-23-2002, 10:31 PM
all hail soap, water and deodorant.....

Amun-Ra
11-25-2002, 07:50 AM
This morning my wife and I were discussing smoking. It seems that a group of workers at her job want smokers to have a separate elevator because they leave the elevator smelling when they get off. My first reaction is to tell these people to get a life. Then my second reaction is back to the cologne and perfume. I don't how many times I've gotten on the elevator only to be assaulted by perfume. It literally grabs me by the nose, flares it open and makes me sneeze. I have become a master at holding my breath for 22 floors. I tolerate it but as a former smoker, I think these complainers protest too much.

By now we all know the dangers of second smoke and we have elegated smokers to ther great outddoors, to blend their smoke in with the massive pollutiuon that covers most of our cities like a orange biscuit. I agree as to the smell, but where are all of these smoking evangelist when it comes to our own fresh air. I'd veture to say that not one of the lends more than back seat lip service to a problem that causes untold death and disease.

As a result I have decided to form the perfume and cologne police. I get tired of picking up my telephone and smelling perfume or cologne when someone has used my desk when I wasn't around. I am tired of walking into a meeting room that smells like a French brothel. I am tired of washing cologne off of my hands that cames from some over-drenched dandy who smaw in the the Lagerfield pool that morning.

I am an ex-smoker. One thing I said I never would become is a smoking-bigot and I haven't. I don't places were people smoke excessively and when I do, I know what to expect. WHen I go to hear an act at a nightclub, I know it is going to be smokey, but I enjoy the music rather than concentrate on the smoke. By the way, the perfume and cologne attack often drowns out the smoke and the music by tweaking my noce and making my eyes water.

I try to give smokers a break, but for all of the perfume and cologne wearers before you compain about smokers, be sure you are not among the "sweet offenders," who drive millions of people to the great outdoors and in worst cases to the allergist.


Ra

:maddd:

Butterfly
12-05-2002, 08:08 AM
I find it rather refreshing...no pun intended, that a brother is willing to speak out about his diminished interest in colgne. Personally I love wearing perfume, and it has become part of who I am.

What I dislike though, are people who wear too much perfume or colgne. I remember I once dated a guy, that left a trail in the air wherever he went. There came a time when I had to ask him to wear less, he succembed whilst we were together.

A couple of years after we broke up, I was at the movies and smelt a colgne that reminded me of him. After the movie I bumped into him and it turns out that it was him who was 'stinking out' the cinema so to say. I guess somethings will never change...

Amun-Ra
12-30-2002, 08:42 PM
Just got backfromFlorida and I found one more--cocnut when't it's oil--I likecocnut, but some how thew oil can get sour or something--it drives me nuts--because it is so distinktiAmun-Ra

umitelikeme
08-14-2003, 01:50 AM
Yeah, well in this area coconut oil has gotten very
'popular' --- even outside of the summer months. The smell is very strong...if not worn properly and FRESH.

$$RICH$$
08-18-2003, 04:00 AM
yeah!!!
coconut oils is loud and some men splash too much on
and it can turn a lady off quick
the other day i was checking out a brutha who was after this
young lady and he had on this oil when he walked by me man
it was like woooooweeeee! that coconut oil and seem like some
garlic mixed that woman was turning up her nose like man what 's that u have on .....these oils can be very loud .

Amun-Ra
06-28-2004, 11:33 PM
I'm in the gym working out when it hit me--megaperfume--I smelled it above the funky body and rampant hormones--here she came struttin' between the free weights and chest ramp--miss thing--bathed in funkarama 2000--my eyes watered and my nose itched. She had on complete makeup and a thong that was lost in the folds of her giant butt--it looked like she was weearing a triangle on a yellow string--but the stench of perfume and funk is not pleasant--I left--Ra

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