Peace and Blessings Family,

I've heard such phrases tossed about, with no sense of responsibility, to the young and impressionable minds that may be reading.

When i read or hear such foolishness, usually from Elder Black Men, the first question that comes to my mind, is how many have you killed? You see such people most every day, yet you have not killed all that have crossed your path? If you have killed any, how do you determine which ones live and which ones die? How have you stayed free and alive, to post on a discussion forum?

If you are bold enough to encourage this, in the open, then you should be bold enough to answer some questions, in the open.

How many of these people have you killed, while you encourage our youth to do the same?!

Tell me please ... how many??!!

How can you do this to our own babies, when you can't protect them from the consequences that are sure to come!? How can you do this?!!!

Our babies are already killing each other, already locked up in prison for spitting on the side walk ... and you have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop it!

You are not prepared to pay the costs for them, to get them out of this thing you are putting them in ... a place where you yourself are not willing to go ... but you plant these seeds as though you have a garden full of such!

But you don't ... you only tell them to kill.

To all the babies ... young people ... young Black Men and Women ... who may ever read or hear such a thing ... if someone is suggesting that you or others kill ... follow the logic ... and ask them ... how many have they killed.

If you're going to follow someone ... do what another says ... make sure they've already walked that road, and can help you navigate through it, and come out on the other side without spot or blemish!

:heart:

Destee

Excellent questions. And in addition to those questions I'd like to know how would you go about determining which people are white people and which people are not?

If you're gonna kill somebody or tell someone else to kill somebody you'd better know, beyond a shadow of doubt, that the person you're talking about, that needs to be dead, is who you say they are. So how do you know?

Peace and Blessings Family,

I've heard such phrases tossed about, with no sense of responsibility, to the young and impressionable minds that may be reading.

When i read or hear such foolishness, usually from Elder Black Men, the first question that comes to my mind, is how many have you killed? You see such people most every day, yet you have not killed all that have crossed your path. If you have killed any, how do you determine which ones live and which ones die? How have you stayed free and alive, to post on a discussion forum?

If you are bold enough to encourage this, in the open, then you should be bold enough to answer some questions, in the open.

How many of these people have you killed, while you encourage our youth to do the same?!

Tell me please ... how many??!!

How can you do this to our own babies, when you can't protect them from the consequences that are sure to come!? How can you do this?!!!

Our babies are already killing each other, already locked up in prison for spitting on the side walk ... and you have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop it!

You are not prepared to pay the costs for them, to get them out of this thing you are putting them in ... a place where you yourself are not willing to go ... but you plant these seeds as though you have a garden full of such!

But you don't ... you only tell them to kill.

To all the babies ... young people ... young Black Men and Women ... who may ever read or hear such a thing ... if someone is suggesting that you or others kill ... follow the logic ... and ask them ... how many have they killed.

If you're going to follow someone ... do what another says ... make sure they've already walked that road, and can help you navigate through it, and come out on the other side without spot or blemish!

:heart:

Destee




My sister, I am going to ask you to name names and bring up posts if you are going to make such a post. And to any of those who might have done ANYTHING at all, please do not be stupid enough to post it on a message board.

My sister, I am going to ask you to name names and bring up posts if you are going to make such a post. And to any of those who might have done ANYTHING at all, please do not be stupid enough to post it on a message board.

I don't have to name names. It's not like what i'm saying is unheard of. I'm not speaking only about this community even, as i've heard Brothers say this way too often and it troubles my soul every single time. If you've never done it, then you are not one of those.

If you're suggesting that it's never been said, then we can have that discussion if you'd like ... just let me know.

If a person is going to publicly suggest a thing, then it's more than reasonable to publicly ask, if they've already done it.

If their public admission to such, is stupid ... then doesn't it seem logical ... that their public encouragement of such, would be stupid too?

I just don't want our youth following stupid people.

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Destee

I don't have to name names. It's not like what i'm saying is unheard of. I'm not speaking only about this community even, as i've heard Brothers say this way too often and it troubles my soul every single time. If you've never done it, then you are not one of those.

If you're suggesting that it's never been said, then we can have that discussion if you'd like ... just let me know.

If a person is going to publicly suggest a thing, then it's more than reasonable to publicly ask, if they've already done it.

If their public admission to such, is stupid ... then doesn't it seem logical ... that their public encouragement of such, would be stupid too?

I just don't want our youth following stupid people.

:heart:

Destee




NO I am not suggesting that it has never been said. My position on it is CLEAR and unwavering. However, you said that some of our elder black men are somehow trying to get young people to kill whites and that I say is both wrongheaded and in my opinion selling people in general short. Yes it would be STUPID to admit in public something for which you could go to prison. As for who is stupid or not..... You rebuke those here who are wrong and wronheaded with what they say. As your brother I am telling you, You are waay wrong with this accusation, and it is a serious one. I realize I am going to be the lone ranger on this one against your statement but so be it. If/when I am wrong and get called on it I apologize. As sister and brother we are going to have it out from time to time and this is one of those times. And not willing to bring up posts... Cmon now sis.......You are bigger and better than this.

NO I am not suggesting that it has never been said. My position on it is CLEAR and unwavering. However, you said that some of our elder black men are somehow trying to get young people to kill whites and that I say is both wrongheaded and in my opinion selling people in general short. Yes it would be STUPID to admit in public something for which you could go to prison. As for who is stupid or not..... You rebuke those here who are wrong and wronheaded with what they say. As your brother I am telling you, You are waay wrong with this accusation, and it is a serious one. I realize I am going to be the lone ranger on this one against your statement but so be it. If/when I am wrong and get called on it I apologize. As sister and brother we are going to have it out from time to time and this is one of those times. And not willing to bring up posts... Cmon now sis.......You are bigger and better than this.

No, your position is not clear to me.

I'm not sure what part of what i said, you have an issue with.

Are you saying that it is okay to encourage our youth to kill (white) people?

If that is what you're saying, then i see where we disagree, and we can go from there.

Tell me ... is that where the problem lies?

What accusation have i made, that is not true? You admit yourself, that such has been said before.

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Destee

No, your position is not clear to me.

I'm not sure what part of what i said, you have an issue with.

Are you saying that it is okay to encourage our youth to kill (white) people?

If that is what you're saying, then i see where we disagree, and we can go from there.

Tell me ... is that where the problem lies ... since you agree that it has been said?

:heart:

Destee




OK heres what I have an issue with, this statement "When I read or hear such foolishness, usually from Elder Black Men," I say NAME names, show posts or produce tapes or quotes, since you are making such a serious allegation. I take issue with that. Bigtime. Even if a person has the opinion that the world would be a better place without whites (As I truly believe) or even if the person says they should be killed, how do you jump from that to some suggesting or encouraging YOUTH to kill white folks? You also said that you do not want our youth following "fools". Again what "fools" are you talking about? And does their taking that position on whites make them a fool?

OK heres what I have an issue with, this statement "When I read or hear such foolishness, usually from Elder Black Men," I say NAME names, show posts or produce tapes or quotes, since you are making such a serious allegation. I take issue with that. Bigtime. Even if a person has the opinion that the world would be a better place without whites (As I truly believe) or even if the person says they should be killed, how do you jump from that to some suggesting or encouraging YOUTH to kill white folks? You also said that you do not want our youth following "fools". Again what "fools" are you talking about? And does their taking that position on whites make them a fool?

When i've heard this said, it has most usually come from Elder Black Men ... Elder meaning ... over 18 years of age, and beyond ... as a person qualifies for "Eldership" by virtue of having someone younger than them around.

Now you're certainly welcome to take issue with whatever you'd like, regarding what i said ... but it doesn't really matter who said it. It could be an Elder Black Man, an Elder Black Woman, a Young Black Man, or a Young Black Woman. That's really inconsequential to the whole of my point (though it has been a personal observation of mine, and i shared it).

My point is ... no matter who tells you to kill someone ... they should be able to show how many they have killed.

You already agree that it has been said, so for the sake of discussion ... i'll back down off of my "Elder Black Men" comment ... and make it be ... I've heard Black People say.

Does that make that part better for you, so we can move on to the meat of the discussion?

I don't think it's a jump to go from hearing those you look up to, and admire, say kill someone ... and a "child" does it. It may not happen instantaneously, for it takes time for seeds to grow within a person. But i think those of us who say such things, are irresponsible, if we don't consider that what we say may be taken literally / seriously by our youth. So when we say such things, we should also include how they will remain free after doing it, where to go when they complete the job, how many you have killed, how you got away, all of the particulars. Don't just tell them to kill, with no plan, no escape route, no hideout location, no nothing ... except kill.

Being as responsible (and wise) as possible, when saying such things, is all i'm hoping for.

I did not say "fools" ... i used the word you introduced into the discussion ... "stupid".

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Destee

When i've heard this said, it has most usually come from Elder Black Men ... Elder meaning ... over 18 years of age, and beyond ... as a person qualifies for "Eldership" by virtue of having someone younger than them around.

Now you're certainly welcome to take issue with whatever you'd like, regarding what i said ... but it doesn't really matter who said it. It could be an Elder Black Man, an Elder Black Woman, a Young Black Man, or a Young Black Woman. That's really inconsequential to the whole of my point.

My point is ... no matter who tells you to kill someone ... they should be able to show how many they have killed.

You already agree that it has been said, so for the sake of discussion ... i'll back down off of my "Elder Black Men" comment ... and make it be ... I've heard Black People say.

Does that make that part better for you, so we can move on to the meat of the discussion?

I don't think it's a jump to go from hearing those you look up to, and admire, say kill someone ... and a "child" does it. It may not happen instantaneously, for it takes time for seeds to grow within a person. But i think those of us who say such things, are irresponsible, if we don't consider that what we say may be taken literally / seriously by our youth. So when we say such things, we should also include how they will remain free after doing it, where to go when they complete the job, all of the particulars. Don't just tell them to kill, with no plan, no escape route, no hideout location, no nothing ... except kill. Be as responsible as possible, when saying such things, is all i'm hoping for.

I did not say "fools" ... i used the word you introduced into the discussion ... "stupid".

:heart:

Destee




I agree with you about the plan escape route and what not. Ok I am gonna let it go at that.. hell, I have yet to come out on top in an "exchange" of ideas (argument) with a woman yet anyway. Why start now?:getout: Now take your mean behind somewhere else and chew on another brother.:10900:

I agree with you about the plan escape route and what not. Ok I am gonna let it go at that.. hell, I have yet to come out on top in an "exchange" of ideas (argument) with a woman yet anyway. Why start now?:getout: Now take your mean behind somewhere else and chew on another brother.:10900:

:lol:

Bless your sweet heart Brother IOnlySpeakTruth ... :love:

Okay ... next ... :wink:

I will surely take on any that tries to defend such carrying on. It angers me so! Boldly encouraging our babies to do stuff we can't help them get out of! But when asked how many have they killed, they punk out and wanna go private, get quiet, and not talk about that part in the open ... yet they brazenly encourage our babies in the open! Ouuuuuuuu it makes me so mad!

It's almost like "agent provocateur" behavior ... the little i know of it.

Openly encouraging our babies to do some killing, but they aint did none their own selves, won't speak on theirs. Setting us up.

:heart:

Destee

:lol:

Bless your sweet heart Brother IOnlySpeakTruth ... :love:

Okay ... next ... :wink:

I will surely take on any that tries to defend such carrying on. It angers me so! Boldly encouraging our babies to do stuff we can't help them get out of! But when asked how many have they killed, they punk out and wanna go private, get quiet, and not talk about that part in the open ... yet they brazenly encourage our babies in the open! Ouuuuuuuu it makes me so mad!

It's almost like "agent provocateur" behavior ... the little i know of it.

Openly encouraging our babies to do some killing, but they aint did none their own selves, won't speak on theirs. Setting us up.

:heart:

Destee



See? Whew lawd! Well, I aint marryin you now! One wife from there is enough! Where is the smiley with the guy losing his hair by the minute? Started out here with a full head of it. Going fast.:drink:

See? Whew lawd! Well, I aint marryin you now! One wife from there is enough! Where is the smiley with the guy losing his hair by the minute? Started out here with a full head of it. Going fast.:drink:

One wife from where ??? ... :lol:

I'd be a good wife, really. I'd even furnish you a few references, if any of them were still alive ... :lol:

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Destee

One wife from where ??? ... :lol:

I'd be a good wife, really. I'd even furnish you a few references, if any of them were still alive ... :lol:

:heart:

Destee




Selma. Nah, I know they are long dead. Killed em slowly too I bet! In the end they were probably beggin for the BONEYARD! :garbage::bye: Well, I guess i will go and let my girls get their pound of flesh also.:confused:

is there anything that can be said on site that is not suitable for children?
how many children are reading these posts?
is this strictly a PG site? no adult content?

can you then separate out an adult forum that us "elder black men" may speak to adults with out fear of destroying some young mind?

as black youth are killing each other every day in my community is it OK as long as they do not aim at any white folk?

i would agree with the idea that black youth should not kill anyone at all.
however, if they must go out and kill someone, i can think of far better targets than pookie down the block.

in closing, if there are any babies reading this post please do not kill anyone. please.

is there anything that can be said on site that is not suitable for children?
how many children are reading these posts?
is this strictly a PG site? no adult content?

can you then separate out an adult forum that us "elder black men" may speak to adults with out fear of destroying some young mind?

as black youth are killing each other every day in my community is it OK as long as they do not aim at any white folk?

i would agree with the idea that black youth should not kill anyone at all.
however, if they must go out and kill someone, i can think of far better targets than pookie down the block.

in closing, if there are any babies reading this post please do not kill anyone. please.





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is there anything that can be said on site that is not suitable for children?

This is not an "adult site" and i'd like for all that is found here, to be said in such a way, that it may enlighten and encourage everyone in the very best way of saying and doing things, adults and children alike.


how many children are reading these posts?
is this strictly a PG site? no adult content?

I don't have any idea how many young people read our posts, but i hope it is many, for they are our future. They are the recipients of our wisdom and knowledge. They will carry on when we are gone. With this in mind, i hope they are here, reading, listening, learning, and growing ... based on the wisdom presented by their Elders. With this in mind, i believe it is absolutely necessary for the Elders presenting such wisdom, to do it as responsibly as possible.

I've never categorized us as a PG site. I'm not even sure what that designation means exactly, how one qualifies for it, etc. I do know that there are some things that are simply not appropriate for an open, family oriented community such as this. As i see them, i address them.

In spite of the above, i've never said you can't tell someone to kill another. I'm simply adding for those who are reading, that a big red flag should go up in their minds, when they see such. They should immediately ask, how many have you killed. They should move forward cautiously, if at all, as this is the same method used in the past (agent provocateurs) to get Brothers to become involved in things that would take their life and freedom. Using their frustration, pain, and anger, against them.


can you then separate out an adult forum that us "elder black men" may speak to adults with out fear of destroying some young mind?

No, i don't think we'll be having any "adult only" areas found here, as they usually suggest that there is some pornography or something like that, present. We have, and always will be (for as far as i can see), a place where the majority of us are comfortable.


as black youth are killing each other every day in my community is it OK as long as they do not aim at any white folk?

i would agree with the idea that black youth should not kill anyone at all.
however, if they must go out and kill someone, i can think of far better targets than pookie down the block.

No, it is not okay, that our babies are killing each other. We (Elders) need to fix this in the best way possible. I don't believe guiding them to kill others, is the best possible course of action. I have heard this argument before, and while it may shift the problem, it does not address the core of the issue. Why are young Black Men killing each other? What is wrong with our babies? What has them making such choices? Is killing (and suffering the consequences of killing) what they should be doing? So many issues surrounding this, that needs addressing from us (and Elder Black Men especially). If we're going to fix it, let's fix it right. We owe our babies that. Let's not simply shift the problem, giving them more issues to deal with later.


in closing, if there are any babies reading this post please do not kill anyone. please.

Thank You.

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Destee

SMH! See....... Ok Can we just say DON'T GET CAUGHT! Whew!

http://amirfatir.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/nation_of_islam.htm

The Mothership Connection.

Maybe this may open minds.

I agree with you about the plan escape route and what not. Ok I am gonna let it go at that.. hell, I have yet to come out on top in an "exchange" of ideas (argument) with a woman yet anyway. Why start now?:getout: Now take your mean behind somewhere else and chew on another brother.:10900:

Hey ... some of us brothas prefer women with spirit ...

is there anything that can be said on site that is not suitable for children?
how many children are reading these posts?
is this strictly a PG site? no adult content?

can you then separate out an adult forum that us "elder black men" may speak to adults with out fear of destroying some young mind?

as black youth are killing each other every day in my community is it OK as long as they do not aim at any white folk?

i would agree with the idea that black youth should not kill anyone at all.
however, if they must go out and kill someone, i can think of far better targets than pookie down the block.

in closing, if there are any babies reading this post please do not kill anyone. please.


Brother James:

killing is wrong period....

the idea of the enemy is justified killing......

there is no shade of grey with regard to this...

anyone can have the mind of a child... and apparently if the shoe fits...

If pookie down the block kills anyone he's doin a bid for the rest of his life!!!!!!!!!!!

I would have to say that anyone killing for the sake of killing has some serious issues.......

and yes, I have been shot at...

and have let one go... thankfully I missed... and the person in my mind deserved to die..... he was a crackhead and a rapist.. but to have blood on my hands at such a young age ....... there are other ways to fight back!

Hey ... some of us brothas prefer women with spirit ...



I would not have it any other way. How a brother could want a "puppy dog" type is beyond me. :) Their spirit is what makes them GREAT!

SMH! See....... Ok Can we just say DON'T GET CAUGHT! Whew!

Absolutely Not.

Well ... you can say that, but i think it is woefully inadequate, given the task you've suggested they do.

If someone came to me, spouting the greatness of a job, the great need for it, encouraging me to do it ... and they've never done it ... or aren't as open and willing to talk of their experience with such ... as they are as open and willing to push me in that direction ... and then tell me ... don't get caught ... but have not provided one single way to insure that i don't get caught ... have not provided anything substantive toward my safety and well-being, as it relates to this task ... as they sit on their behind ... and tell me to do it?!!!

Please.

Considering the condition our children are in, our Sons especially, it is very sad for any Black Man ... Black Person ... to take them from the hell they are in, and put them in another.

Our children deserve more than death, yet that is what you want to give them?

To kill another, something in the killer must die too. It must take a person to a place, that only killers know. I can't imagine it. Our children are not killers. They've been made to be killers, but they were not born to kill. They are much greater than that, deserving of so much more, and we (Elders) should be giving them life, and life more abundantly ... not more death.

I think the word "fool" is applicable here ... and that is what a person would be ... if they were to act on such.

I still say, and will forever say ... if someone suggests that you kill, ask how many have they killed.

It will be a test of how much Man / Woman they really are. For if they are Man / Woman enough to make such a suggestion in the open, then they should be Man / Woman enough to stand that ground, in the open.

If they are not, then you don't want to be dealing with a raggedy, weak, punked out person that does not have sense enough to know, when to talk, and when not to ... for they have failed that test ... among others.

If you can't talk about the whole thing, don't talk about any of it.

There are so many red flags that should go up, when one sees such as this.

Be Careful Babies ... be very careful.

:heart:

Destee

http://amirfatir.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/nation_of_islam.htm

The Mothership Connection.

Maybe this may open minds.

Brother MrMofi ... Welcome ... Welcome ... Welcome !!! ... :wave:

I visited the link, and saw more links.

If you don't mind, would you briefly share your thoughts regarding the link, and this discussion?

I look forward to reading your position on this topic.

Thanks for joining us, and please make yourself at home, because you are!

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Destee

Hey ... some of us brothas prefer women with spirit ...

Brother Istlota ... are you single ... ??? ... uuhhhh ... Sister Purple PM'd me and asked me to ask you! :)

:heart:

Destee

Brother James:

killing is wrong period....

the idea of the enemy is justified killing......

there is no shade of grey with regard to this...

anyone can have the mind of a child... and apparently if the shoe fits...

If pookie down the block kills anyone he's doin a bid for the rest of his life!!!!!!!!!!!

I would have to say that anyone killing for the sake of killing has some serious issues.......

and yes, I have been shot at...

and have let one go... thankfully I missed... and the person in my mind deserved to die..... he was a crackhead and a rapist.. but to have blood on my hands at such a young age ....... there are other ways to fight back!

Sister Miss Lady ... :love: ... thanks for joining this discussion.

I think there is a time for killing (wars and such).

There is probably a time for all things.

There is also a right and proper way in which to discuss and do such things.

That's all i'm say'n ... if they aint doin it right ... you don't want to have anything to do with them.

:heart:

Destee

Peace and Blessings Family,

I've heard such phrases tossed about, with no sense of responsibility, to the young and impressionable minds that may be reading.

When i read or hear such foolishness, usually from Elder Black Men, the first question that comes to my mind, is how many have you killed? You see such people most every day, yet you have not killed all that have crossed your path? If you have killed any, how do you determine which ones live and which ones die? How have you stayed free and alive, to post on a discussion forum?

If you are bold enough to encourage this, in the open, then you should be bold enough to answer some questions, in the open.

How many of these people have you killed, while you encourage our youth to do the same?!

Tell me please ... how many??!!

How can you do this to our own babies, when you can't protect them from the consequences that are sure to come!? How can you do this?!!!

Our babies are already killing each other, already locked up in prison for spitting on the side walk ... and you have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop it!

You are not prepared to pay the costs for them, to get them out of this thing you are putting them in ... a place where you yourself are not willing to go ... but you plant these seeds as though you have a garden full of such!

But you don't ... you only tell them to kill.

To all the babies ... young people ... young Black Men and Women ... who may ever read or hear such a thing ... if someone is suggesting that you or others kill ... follow the logic ... and ask them ... how many have they killed.

If you're going to follow someone ... do what another says ... make sure they've already walked that road, and can help you navigate through it, and come out on the other side without spot or blemish!

:heart:

Destee






You sure you are not my ex wife? cause you both have the same way of werkin my last nerve!:em0400: :)

You sure you are not my ex wife? cause you both have the same way of werkin my last nerve!:em0400: :)

Why ... because i'm telling the truth?

What part of what i'm saying or doing, is working your last nerve?

I'm not trying to work your nerves, i'm only trying to save our babies from the traps and snares laid for them.

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Destee

Why ... because i'm telling the truth?

What part of what i'm saying or doing, is working your last nerve?

I'm not trying to work your nerves, i'm only trying to save our babies from the traps and snares laid for them.

:heart:

Destee




I wanna give a class on improving AFRIKAN male/female relationships. Would you attend? One of the subjects would be listening to one another. Not just hearing what you want.

I wanna give a class on improving AFRIKAN male/female relationships. Would you attend? One of the subjects would be listening to one another. Not just hearing what you want.

I will surely try to attend, yes. My schedule has been kinda krazee lately, but i will try.

Are you suggesting that i am not listening?

That this is what is working your nerves, my not listening?

What have you said, that you think i've not heard?

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Destee

I will surely try to attend, yes. My schedule has been kinda krazee lately, but i will try.

Are you suggesting that i am not listening?

That this is what is working your nerves, my not listening?

What have you said, that you think i've not heard?

:heart:

Destee



I will try and work it around that sched. Yes, and yes. I think you are so adament about your position (which I get) that you have shoved the brothers position down to that of CRAZY or FOOLISH without trying to understand. NOBODY is advocating anything like younguns killin and ending up in prison. (where;s the smiley that bashes his head against the wall?)

is it healthy that any expression of hate, anger or even dislike that a black man makes is immediately met with disdain by the black woman?

what are the mental health effects of having ones anger always repressed?

just how are we to over throw the system of white supremacy if we cannot even be angry about it?
we cannot be angry. we cannot hate. what, then, is our motivation?

are we gonna love them to death? how has that been working for us?

I will try and work it around that sched. Yes, and yes. I think you are so adament about your position (which I get) that you have shoved the brothers position down to that of CRAZY or FOOLISH without trying to understand. NOBODY is advocating anything like younguns killin and ending up in prison. (where;s the smiley that bashes his head against the wall?)

If you or anyone posts on a discussion forum, for all to see, including our youth, directing folk to kill other folk ... then you (or they) are most certainly advocating that our youth (and anyone else who reads it) kill people.

You have even admitted that such is done, that you've seen it.

So how now, can you say that that is not what is being done?

Either it is or it isn't ... you can't have it both ways.

You're right, i am very adamant about this. It looks like nothing but a trap and snare laid for our children. Using their anger, frustration, and pain against them. Hyping them up to act in a way, that the ones that are giving the suggestions, will not even do. Are too afraid, weak, and punked out, to even talk about their doing it, but can openly encourage our babies to do it.

That's BS. You tell me, what's the difference between an agent provocateur, and someone who does this?

Do you know that white folk are setting up these exact same scenarios to trap our babies with?! Do you know they are walking around, waiting, watching, to see who bites?! Do you know that anyone who carries on like that, is putting a target on their back (although, if they are working for the white man, it will never hurt them), and a target on the back of the ones that engage in that with them? Do you know that the Brothers in Florida were arrested, imprisoned, and labeled as "Home Grown Terrorists" for having illegal conversations?!! Do you know how stupid it is to even play that game in this day and time? Do you know that the ones who encourage such open discussion, are not going to be there to bail them out, break them out, pay for their attorneys or anything?!!

I'm surprised Brothers haven't said, "Destee you're right. It is irresponsible, to broach such topics on an open discussion forum."

Instead ... you want to fight me on it?

I'm more than willing to say that i'm wrong, if i am ... but you're gonna hafta show me where i'm wrong at.

And you've not done that yet.

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Destee

is it healthy that any expression of hate, anger or even dislike that a black man makes is immediately met with disdain by the black woman?

what are the mental health effects of having ones anger always repressed?

just how are we to over throw the system of white supremacy if we cannot even be angry about it?
we cannot be angry. we cannot hate. what, then, is our motivation?

are we gonna love them to death? how has that been working for us?

Brother James ... you can express all the hate, anger, and dislike you want.

You can even take your own advice, which you've already said you would not do, and take the lives of some people. That's your choice, though i do not recommend it.

My problem is ... which is the focus of this thread ... is when folk speak these things out loud, suggesting that others kill, yet they have not done the very thing they are telling others to do ... it looks like a set-up to me.

How can it be so great an option, worthy of recommendation, but you've not done it?

Help me understand that part.

Anger, hate, dislike, are all real emotions that must be dealt with in the best way possible. Black Men are full of these things, and it is absolutely necessary, that those of us who know better ... direct our young Black Men in the best way ... of dealing with these emotions.

Don't direct them in a way, that takes them from the frying pan, to the fire.

If this is the best advice you have to offer them ... leave them like you found them ... please.

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Destee

If you or anyone posts on a discussion forum, for all to see, including our youth, directing folk to kill other folk ... then you (or they) are most certainly advocating that our youth (and anyone else who reads it) kill people.

You have even admitted that such is done, that you've seen it.

So how now, can you say that that is not what is being done?

Either it is or it isn't ... you can't have it both ways.

You're right, i am very adamant about this. It looks like nothing but a trap and snare laid for our children. Using their anger, frustration, and pain against them. Hyping them up to act in a way, that the ones that are giving the suggestions, will not even do. Are too afraid, weak, and punked out, to even talk about their doing it, but can openly encourage our babies to do it.

That's BS. You tell me, what's the difference between an agent provocateur, and someone who does this?

Do you know that white folk are setting up these exact same scenarios to trap our babies with?! Do you know they are walking around, waiting, watching, to see who bites?! Do you know that anyone who carries on like that, is putting a target on their back (although, if they are working for the white man, it will never hurt them), and a target on the back of the ones that engage in that with them? Do you know that the Brothers in Florida were arrested, imprisoned, and labeled as "Home Grown Terrorists" for having illegal conversations?!! Do you know how stupid it is to even play that game in this day and time? Do you know that the ones who encourage such open discussion, are not going to be there to bail them out, break them out, pay for their attorneys or anything?!!

I'm surprised Brothers haven't said, "Destee you're right. It is irresponsible, to broach such topics on an open discussion forum."

Instead ... you want to fight me on it?

I'm more than willing to say that i'm wrong, if i am ... but you're gonna hafta show me where i'm wrong at.

And you've not done that yet.

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Destee






What? And exactly what kids are watching this? And I said they should be killed. Now dont try and twist that to me urging youth to do something. And NO you are not going to admit that you are wrong because it is important for you to be right and your position to be validated. that sis is BS. Exactly one of the things that cause rifts between KINGS and QUEENS. Also, I kinda think that this is aimed at Us older (50 and above) brothers and that is not right. Lastly, James has a valid point, here you are slamming our right to be ANGRY! Just like WHITE folks do to us all the time! I dont get it.

What? And exactly what kids are watching this? And I said they should be killed. Now dont try and twist that to me urging youth to do something. And NO you are not going to admit that you are wrong because it is important for you to be right and your position to be validated. that sis is BS. Exactly one of the things that cause rifts between KINGS and QUEENS. Also, I kinda think that this is aimed at Us older (50 and above) brothers and that is not right. Lastly, James has a valid point, here you are slamming our right to be ANGRY! Just like WHITE folks do to us all the time! I dont get it.

The Internet is full of children. We have lots right here in this community.

If you tell people to kill people, and you don't name names, just throw the suggestion out there, then it is for all who may have a mind to follow your advice. Surely you are aware of the power of suggestive words, that there might be some that look up to you, admire you, and want to please you, want to do as you suggest?

Surely you have some sense of responsibility, when it comes to the words that you utter? You may never know who is listening, reading, and wanting to emulate you. You may never know who acted on your words and/or suggestions. Therefore, you must be very careful in what you say, as it could impact the lives of others. Surely you know this?

The only validation i want or need, is a young Black Man stepping over this trap and snare laid for his life, should he see it.

Yes, it is important to me, that i be right. I strive to be right, but there have been many times that i've been wrong, and i'm more than woman enough to say that i am wrong, if i am.

It aint my fault that you can't show me that i am wrong.

I'm really amazed that you'd find anything i'm saying wrong.

It seems like plain old common sense to me.

If you can't talk about the whole thing, don't talk about any of it.

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Destee

The Internet is full of children. We have lots right here in this community.

If you tell people to kill people, and you don't name names, just throw the suggestion out there, then it is for all who may have a mind to follow your advice. Surely you are aware of the power of suggestive words, that there might be some that look up to you, admire you, and want to please you, want to do as you suggest?

Surely you have some sense of responsibility, when it comes to the words that you utter? You may never know who is listening, reading, and wanting to emulate you. You may never know who acted on your words and/or suggestions. Therefore, you must be very careful in what you say, as it could impact the lives of others. Surely you know this?

Yes, it is important to me, that i be right. I strive to be right, but there have been many times that i've been wrong, and i'm more than woman enough to say that i am wrong, if i am.

The only validation i want or need, is a young Black Man stepping over this trap and snare laid for his life, should he see it.

It aint my fault that you can't show me that i am wrong.

I'm really amazed that you'd find anything i'm saying wrong.

It seems like plain old common sense to me.

If you can't talk about the whole thing, don't talk about any of it.

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Destee




I Love you dearly sister. I admire your fire in your belly, but... I guess we will agree to disagree.... Just make sure you sit in on that class

I Love you dearly sister. I admire your fire in your belly, but... I guess we will agree to disagree.... Just make sure you sit in on that class

Just let me know when it is, i'll try to be there.

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Destee

Just let me know when it is, i'll try to be there.

:heart:

Destee




Man, I guess if I spent a week hangin with you, I would be half bald! I hope you are not like this all the time.:SuN018::SuN035: ****, Imma go for the Courvasier on the real.

Man, I guess if I spent a week hangin with you, I would be half bald! I hope you are not like this all the time.:SuN018::SuN035: ****, Imma go for the Courvasier on the real.

When it comes to the lives of young Black Men, i am always this way.

We have lost way too many, to even play with losing another, for any reason!

We must protect each and every one that we can, from every single thing that seeks to take his life or freedom. We need our young men with us! We must encourage them in the right way, as there are so many forces at work, directing them in the wrong way. He is almost an endangered species.

Being a Black Man yourself, i just don't see how you can't see this. Why you are saying i am wrong. I really don't understand, and am a bit surprised at the responses i've received so far ... but that's okay ... because i'm not new to this, i'm true to this ... and it will take more than half-hearted attempts at shutting me up, to shut me up.

Young Black Men, don't let anyone tie you up in a knot, not me or anyone.

If you spent a week with me, talking like you're talking now, i'd choke your neck.

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Destee

When it comes to the lives of young Black Men, i am always this way.

We have lost way too many, to even play with losing another, for any reason!

We must protect each and every one that we can, from every single thing that seeks to take his life or freedom. We need our young men with us! We must encourage them in the right way, as there are so many forces at work, directing them in the wrong way. He is almost an endangered species.

Being a Black Man yourself, i just don't see how you can't see this. Why you are saying i am wrong. I really don't understand, and am a bit surprised at the responses i've received so far ... but that's okay ... because i'm not new to this, i'm true to this ... and it will take more than half-hearted attempts at shutting me up, to shut me up.

Young Black Men, don't let anyone tie you up in a knot, not me or anyone.

If you spent a week with me, talking like you're talking now, i'd choke your neck.

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Destee




LOL! OK but what if I let you?:em3200::ilu: Anyway, how could you choke a neck like that (see pic of that kind ,sweet, innocent young man):em3200:

LOL! OK but what if I let you?:em3200::ilu: Anyway, how could you choke a neck like that (see pic of that kind ,sweet, innocent young man):em3200:

Don't be try'n to make me smile ... i'm fight'n right now.

:heart:

Destee

Don't be try'n to make me smile ... i'm fight'n right now.

:heart:

Destee




Nope. No going to bed in fightin mood. You showed your backbone and I showed mine now here :couple: We are gonna cover this too in the class.

Nope. No going to bed in fightin mood. You showed your backbone and I showed mine now here :couple: We are gonna cover this too in the class.

Okay ... since we're finna go to bed ... i'll stop ... rest well ... :love:

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Destee

i do not recommend that anyone kill anybody.

Okay ... since we're finna go to bed ... i'll stop ... rest well ... :love:

:heart:

Destee



You too. And move over to your side.:em2300:

i do not recommend that anyone kill anybody.

Thank you Brother James.

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Destee

Thank you Brother James.

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Destee



Me too. But I would not be at all sad if those pink lab rats all ... errr... Sowwy

Brother MrMofi ... Welcome ... Welcome ... Welcome !!! ... :wave:

I visited the link, and saw more links.

If you don't mind, would you briefly share your thoughts regarding the link, and this discussion?

I look forward to reading your position on this topic.

Thanks for joining us, and please make yourself at home, because you are!

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Destee

I see that a lot of my brothers and sisters feel as though caucasians are our enemy. I feel that our enemy would be any negative mentality because negativity is the root of violence and destruction. To free the spirit you must first open your mind. When your mind is closed, no light can get in and your spirit is dormant leaving you in a world of dreams (illusions), that fuel misconception. once awakened you can see things for what they really are (reality).

what are the mental health effects of having ones anger always repressed?

It is not physically or mentally healthy to repress emotions.

just how are we to over throw the system of white supremacy if we cannot even be angry about it?
we cannot be angry. we cannot hate. what, then, is our motivation?

The One gave you passion _and_ talent for a reason. You do not have to repress your anger. Do like the poets do here. Channel all that rage into your work.

Aim your camera at the wickedness that men do and keep shoving your images at an unbelieving world until NO ONE can deny anymore what is happening by hiding behind a black robe, a badge, or a podium in the Rose Garden.

i've been reading this post and while i haven't seen anything as strong as killing what i have seen is the word that helps create such an atmosphere and that word is-HATE,yes we do have the right to love or hate anyone we so chose but i want each of you reading this to stop whatever you're doing and just think for a minute about the EMOTION that's involved with hating someone and what comes out in you when you think of it,now ask yourself this-is there really someone that i truly HATE not just dislike,if your answer is yes then you need not be around those people.

Excellent questions. And in addition to those questions I'd like to know how would you go about determining which people are white people and which people are not?

If you're gonna kill somebody or tell someone else to kill somebody you'd better know, beyond a shadow of doubt, that the person you're talking about, that needs to be dead, is who you say they are. So how do you know?





POW!

"oops, sorry Cathy Hughes, my bad"



POW!

"oops, sorry Alicia Keys, I forgot my glasses"





POW!

"oops, sorry Mariah, it was rainin... my bad"





POW!


"oops, sorry Tyra, those blond locks confused me, my bad"





Josh

is it healthy that any expression of hate, anger or even dislike that a black man makes is immediately met with disdain by the black woman?

what are the mental health effects of having ones anger always repressed?

just how are we to over throw the system of white supremacy if we cannot even be angry about it?
we cannot be angry. we cannot hate. what, then, is our motivation?

are we gonna love them to death? how has that been working for us?


Brother James:

what is so healthy about expressing hate which makes you feel like seeing mass murder?

You meet with disdain from the sisters because you always telling us why "we don't have a good man"...

yes, you seem to be a good man.... I applaud your efforts in getting a man who beats on women up offa her.... trust me if I was that woman I would want you to be my hero...

but I think you have to ask yourself the same question..... why so the sisters show this discomfort in your approach... well... because it's non-sense....

you seem to be rather cranky and angry.... anger can be a great emotion.. but don't use it to always knock down.....

you challenged me at an earlier time to use my talent to do something positive and uplifting.. I accepted that challenge... but I extend the same to you.....

stop using the term "hate" so loosely..... it is a really serious word, and has really serious effects....

as we can see by simply looking around....

and no we won't love the "enemy" to death... but are you going to "hate" them to death?

Sister Destee:

Hi... :)

I always feel so honored to get a chance to speak with you..... one love......
and thank you again for our community......

Peace and Blessings Family,

I've heard such phrases tossed about, with no sense of responsibility, to the young and impressionable minds that may be reading.

When i read or hear such foolishness, usually from Elder Black Men, the first question that comes to my mind, is how many have you killed? You see such people most every day, yet you have not killed all that have crossed your path? If you have killed any, how do you determine which ones live and which ones die? How have you stayed free and alive, to post on a discussion forum?

If you are bold enough to encourage this, in the open, then you should be bold enough to answer some questions, in the open.

How many of these people have you killed, while you encourage our youth to do the same?!

Tell me please ... how many??!!

How can you do this to our own babies, when you can't protect them from the consequences that are sure to come!? How can you do this?!!!

Our babies are already killing each other, already locked up in prison for spitting on the side walk ... and you have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop it!

You are not prepared to pay the costs for them, to get them out of this thing you are putting them in ... a place where you yourself are not willing to go ... but you plant these seeds as though you have a garden full of such!

But you don't ... you only tell them to kill.

To all the babies ... young people ... young Black Men and Women ... who may ever read or hear such a thing ... if someone is suggesting that you or others kill ... follow the logic ... and ask them ... how many have they killed.

If you're going to follow someone ... do what another says ... make sure they've already walked that road, and can help you navigate through it, and come out on the other side without spot or blemish!

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Destee

Thank you Destee! Thank you for your encouraging words concerning some of our young and elderly brothers to wise up, and stop sending the wrong indirect messages to our beautiful black youths.

I agree with Muhammad Ali words on this matter concerning racism.

"Hating people because of their color is wrong. And it doesn't matter which color does the hating. It's just plain wrong."
Muhammad Ali

Thank you Destee! Thank you for your encouraging words concerning some of our young and elderly brothers to wise up, and stop sending the wrong indirect messages to our beautiful black youths.

Brother MysteryDoors ... thank you ... whew!

I was beginning to think that maybe i'm the only one that sees this!

Or worse yet, no Brothers (other than Brother Edward Williams) could agree with me, because it's coming from a Sister.

Thank You Brother MysteryDoors ... :bowdown:

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Destee

I feel sorry for some of you. TRULY.

Brother MysteryDoors ... thank you ... whew!

I was beginning to think that maybe i'm the only one that sees this!

Or worse yet, no Brothers (other than Brother Edward Williams) could agree with me, because it's coming from a Sister.

Thank You Brother MysteryDoors ... :bowdown:

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Destee



Whew? LOL! You were doing such a fine job. I am feeling you sister, I tend to challenge myself and those I engage especially my children and their peers to recognize what impairs them and to gird themselves for the struggle against white supremacy racism. Hatred? Its an anchor, I am working hard on codification and I practice this in dialogue locally. I challenge agency and organization heads to seek truth, and I do this from a position of love for US. Hate is too heavy, it can drag one down away from the real battle. Having said this, I tend to stay away from discussions such as this, I am a firm believer of 'to each his/her own', If hate works for one,I would advise that he be careful not to let it lead them away from contructive work and action. I am also forced to use a laptop to chat with ya'll today, and it is driving me crazy (my mouse has become ineffective) OK, now I'll go back to reading posts and developing greater awareness. Much Love

T.S.C.

Peace!

Whew? LOL! You were doing such a fine job. I am feeling you sister, I tend to challenge myself and those I engage especially my children and their peers to recognize what impairs them and to gird themselves for the struggle against white supremacy racism. Hatred? Its an anchor, I am working hard on codification and I practice this in dialogue locally. I challenge agency and organization heads to seek truth, and I do this from a position of love for US. Hate is too heavy, it can drag one down away from the real battle. Having said this, I tend to stay away from discussions such as this, I am a firm believer of 'to each his/her own', If hate works for one,I would advise that he be careful not to let it lead them away from contructive work and action. I am also forced to use a laptop to chat with ya'll today, and it is driving me crazy (my mouse has become ineffective) OK, now I'll go back to reading posts and developing greater awareness. Much Love

T.S.C.

Peace!

Brother Prizmm ... Thank You. I too try to respect the 'to each his/her own' stuff, i really do! But when that "each/own" begins to spill over onto the collective, negatively impacting our already devastating circumstance ... from those we should be able to receive so much more from ... my blood boils.

Everyone is surely free to continue as they have, but it would be neglectful of me, not to warn those who see such ... to be very careful. It's bad enough trying to navigate our children away from the traps and snares laid by white people, to have our very own saying and doing things, that looks like a set-up.

Nothing we do with our children, should look like agent provocateur behavior.

Encouraging them to engage in conversations and acts, in the open, that could be used against them in a court of law.

Again ... Thanks Brother Prizmm ... :bowdown:

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Destee

Brother James: You meet with disdain from the sisters because you always telling us why "we don't have a good man"...
is you done got me confused wit kemestry?

Brother James: you seem to be rather cranky and angry....
when you get old and your body starts to break down and you are in pain you may well get cranky too....

Brother James: you challenged me at an earlier time to use my talent to do something positive and uplifting.. I accepted that challenge... but I extend the same to you.....
http://destee.com/forums/album.php?albumid=2

is you done got me confused wit kemestry?

:lol: ... now that's funny ... hahahaha ... :love:

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Destee

Peace and Blessings Family,

I was thinking about this some more, and what i tell my Daughter all the time, came to mind.

I tell her to always lock her doors. I say to her, if someone is going to break in on you, at least make them do some work. Make them break the door down, bust a window, something that may give you a few more minutes to get away. Don't leave the door unlocked, so they can walk right in and get you, with little or no effort.

That is how i feel about this topic.

To All Young Black Men ... don't incriminate yourself. These white people want you dead or in prison, each and every one of you. So please, don't hand yourself to them on a silver platter. Don't post on a discussion forum your intent and desire to kill. Don't make it so they don't have any work to do, they don't need DNA, or CSI, or any of the tricks of their trade, because you've posted all of your intentions and desires on a public web site, for all to see.

Please, don't make it any easier for them to lock you up, than they already have it.

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Destee

I don't know about yall...but I was happy as a bee in honey when I saw the Titanic go down with all those white people on it. That's one of my favorite movies! I also get happy when I watch those world war II movies too. Personally speaking, I just can't see myself leaving this life without at least taking a few of them with me. It may not make up for the 100's of millions of us that have been killed and are still being killed everyday by them through their system of aids, germ warfare, prison and outright genocide on the globe, but every little bit helps. Sure, it may not be right but it darn sure makes it even. Besides, when one is filled with anger, the pain of injustice, miseducation and fear...one has a tendency to turn that fear, that anger and that pain inwards instead of outwards as it rightfully belongs. Personally I'd prefer to see it turned out from our people instead of in on our people as it presently is.

As it presently stands we only kill when white people say it's ok for us to kill...via the military....but we somehow see something wrong with the idea that we also have a right to do it for our own people just as we do it for theirs.

Personally speaking, I just can't see myself leaving this life without at least taking a few of them with me.

Don't talk about it, be about it.

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Destee

Don't talk about it, be about it.

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Destee
Keita, Mama Destee has issued the challenge. Will you accept it? LOL

This is exactly why you rarely hear me speak on this subject...cause during the day we need to wear that business suit and go to the office with the aura of respectability...but at night we need to remember the spirit of the Zulu!!...and you know we all look alike at night when it's dark....we might even get mistaken for Obama at night!!!.:huh::em0400:

This is exactly why you rarely hear me speak on this subject...cause during the day we need to wear that business suit and go to the office with the aura of respectability...but at night we need to remember the spirit of the Zulu!!...and you know we all look alike at night when it's dark....we might even get mistaken for Obama at night!!!.:huh::em0400:
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was happy as a bee in honey when I saw the Titanic go down
:qqb009: .....you that old homie?

This is exactly why you rarely hear me speak on this subject...cause during the day we need to wear that business suit and go to the office with the aura of respectability...but at night we need to remember the spirit of the Zulu!!...and you know we all look alike at night when it's dark....we might even get mistaken for Obama at night!!!.:huh::em0400:

Oh how we wear the mask...enter "Black Skin, White Masks" by Frantz Fanon

http://www.amazon.com/Black-White-Masks-Frantz-Fanon/dp/0802150845

is you done got me confused wit kemestry?


when you get old and your body starts to break down and you are in pain you may well get cranky too....


http://destee.com/forums/album.php?albumid=2

lolol....

don't make me go find your that's why you don't have a good man quotes...

and I get cranky once a month... lololol ....

I wish you only comfort if your body aches....

and:

the pictures are beautiful... especially the ones that seem to capture movement........

not sure about the one on the rope... that looks like it can hurt...

This is exactly why you rarely hear me speak on this subject...cause during the day we need to wear that business suit and go to the office with the aura of respectability...but at night we need to remember the spirit of the Zulu!!...and you know we all look alike at night when it's dark....we might even get mistaken for Obama at night!!!.:huh::em0400:

Brother Keita ... you prove my point. You've actually come into this thread, and done the very thing that i don't understand.

You post your intent to kill on an open discussion forum, but when challenged, you back down.

That's a position of weakness, isn't it?

If you know you can't meet a challenge, that is going to come ... (and you knew it was coming, because i've said over and over again, i'm bringing it) ... why open that can of worms? Why reveal your own weakness?! When challenged, you immediately went into this "cover of darkness" talk, as though such can't be disclosed in the light of day.

If you can't talk about a thing, in its fullness ... day or night ... why would you even broach the topic?

What kind of military expertise is this? I've never been in the military, but i can see that such an act could be very detrimental to the one doing it, the planned attack if you will, as well as those who are under your command.

You've virtually told your position, giving just enough to let the enemy know your intention, while providing a poor example for those under you.

I'm just not understanding the logic in speaking such things in the open, for all to hear.

What is the purpose of it?

Are you giving the intended victims a heads-up ... so they can prepare themselves, be careful and watch?

Does it make you look bigger and badder to your intended victim, as well as those under you, by talking such talk?

Are you showing those who are looking up to you, how to be militarily wise?

What is the purpose for half talking about ... leaking ... your military intentions to a world that has a bigger military than yours?



As it presently stands we only kill when white people say it's ok for us to kill...via the military....but we somehow see something wrong with the idea that we also have a right to do it for our own people just as we do it for theirs.

I do believe there is a time for killing (wars, etc.). I believe there is a time for all things.

My concern is the public, open, discussion of such.

This seems like suicide to me. Foolish and irresponsible. A very poor example for those coming behind us.

If we had a military, it would probably be the Elder Men in our community, that might lead the way, strategize, plan, etc., and if you all did it, like you're doing it here ... God help those young Men that have entrusted their life to you and your guidance.

Everybody knows what you're going to do, before you do it, because you told them. They are just waiting for your arrival.

And don't even mention that you've got to get your guns / supplies from them, to do any of this ... oh my gosh.

I don't understand.

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Destee

um, did an elder black man do something bad to you when you were a child?
if we really didn't know what we were doing how do you think we lived to become elder?

um, did an elder black man do something bad to you when you were a child?

No. Why are you trying to diminish my observation and opinion, to a personal vendetta against Black Men?

Do you have a problem being corrected, or shown your error, by a Black Woman?

Would it have been better received, if a Black Man said these things to you?


if we really didn't know what we were doing how do you think we lived to become elder?

By the Grace of God.

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Destee

Do you have a problem being corrected, or shown your error, by a Black Woman?
Would it have been better received, if a Black Man said these things to you?

not at all. one of my few virtues is that if you show me a better way i will jump on it in a heartbeat. you know that.
i do not have a problem of being corrected by a man, a woman or a child. i value truth above all.

if have said it probably is the best idea for no one to speak of killing anybody on site.
i say it again. no one should speak of killing anybody.

not at all. one of my few virtues is that if you show me a better way i will jump on it in a heartbeat. you know that.
i do not have a problem of being corrected by a man, a woman or a child. i value truth above all.

if have said it probably is the best idea for no one to speak of killing anybody on site.
i say it again. no one should speak of killing anybody.

So why did you ask me ... "did an elder black man do something bad to you when you were a child?"

What makes you think that?

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Destee

So why did you ask me ... "did an elder black man do something bad to you when you were a child?"

What makes you think that?

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Destee

it appears as though you do not care for us. you say we only made it "by the grace of god".
it's not worth arguing about though.

bottom line: no one talk of killing.

it appears as though you do not care for us. you say we only made it "by the grace of god".
it's not worth arguing about though.

bottom line: no one talk of killing.

I Love Black Men, and there is absolutely no evidence anywhere, to indicate otherwise.

In fact, all that i'm saying in this thread, is meant to save the lives and freedom of Black Men.

You asked me that question ... before i said "By the Grace of God" ... so it can't be the reason for the question.

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Destee

I Love Black Men, and there is absolutely no evidence anywhere, to indicate otherwise.

In fact, all that i'm saying in this thread, is meant to save the lives and freedom of Black Men.

You asked me that question ... before i said "By the Grace of God" ... so it can't be the reason for the question.

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Destee
ok, my bad......mea culpa

ok, my bad......mea culpa

It's all good Brother James ... we're in this together ... love you ... :grouphug:

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Destee

Personally speaking, I just can't see myself leaving this life without at least taking a few of them with me. It may not make up for the 100's of millions of us that have been killed and are still being killed everyday by them through their system of aids, germ warfare, prison and outright genocide on the globe, but every little bit helps. Sure, it may not be right but it darn sure makes it even.

You ain't gonna do jack.

First off, any brother who was really into killing white folks would have to be a fool to talk about it on the Internet. The Dept. of Homeland Security monitors _EVERYTHING_ these days.

Therefore, I have to assume you are either a fool, or are just a coward who, lacking the cajones to stand up to white folks personally, settles for instigating younger and/or impressionable minds to go out and ruin their lives acting out your gangsta-wannabe fantasies.

Instead of selling wolf tickets, you need to read Area 9 of Neely Fuller Jr.'s "The United Independent Compensatory Code/System/Concept".

you are either a fool, or are just a coward
maybe he is just somebody who has a different opinion from yours.......

maybe he is just somebody who has a different opinion from yours.......

So does George W. Bush and Condi. And, if you wish, I will be more than happy to tell you what I think about their adddictions to inciting other people to commit violence as well.

The person I was referring to is a writer. He understands perfectly well the power of words to manipulate the unwise to do the unthinkable.

Greetings All!

I overstand that ANGER requires SAFE expression
That CHILDREN require protection
And when certain words are uttered
They need to flow free without rejection

May I offer a SAFE SPACE by which 'adults" can vent
Outside of the earshot of children
Much the way we do or have seen done in our homes growing up
when you heard "boy/girl" gwan outside and this conversation is NOT for children"...

Visit the RE~covery Room, a new Social Network right here at Destee.com
Where you can vent
have a place to fully express
All the thoghts and feelings connected
to this bloody mess
we in...


Can we at least TALK about it:?:
THINK about it


M.E.
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what dat be?

the power of words to manipulate the unwise to do the unthinkable

sounds pretty much like what I learned in those people who have "white" skin tone, like what they DID in relationship to people with "dark" colored skin tones.

Also seems each and every one of US attempt to or have an underlying desire to have people DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT as a RE~sult of what we've shared. What the Creator gave us to share...individually speaking...

IF I grasp the concepts you Istlota have presented since your presence in this Community, and sense they are "truth"...
THEN what I might be "DO~ing" differently:?: In thought (verbally or spiritually), feeling and behaving.

M.E.
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You ain't gonna do jack.

First off, any brother who was really into killing white folks would have to be a fool to talk about it on the Internet. The Dept. of Homeland Security monitors _EVERYTHING_ these days.

Therefore, I have to assume you are either a fool, or are just a coward who, lacking the cajones to stand up to white folks personally,
Instead of selling wolf tickets, you need to read Area 9 of Neely Fuller Jr.'s "The United Independent Compensatory Code/System/Concept".





You scared of homeland security are you? And you call someone else a coward or a fool? LOL! You need to stfd and stfu when grown folks are talking. Now, if you have something to say by way of name calling, I am a perfect candidate. Oh and I am in New york if you care to say it to MY face. U probably waiting for a spaceship to take you home though. "settles for instigating younger and/or impressionable minds to go out and ruin their lives acting out your gangsta-wannabe fantasies."..... U sound like a fool. Ok I got that off my chest. Now, you can go stand in the corner like a good little guy(?)

You ain't gonna do jack.

First off, any brother who was really into killing white folks would have to be a fool to talk about it on the Internet. The Dept. of Homeland Security monitors _EVERYTHING_ these days.

Therefore, I have to assume you are either a fool, or are just a coward who, lacking the cajones to stand up to white folks personally, settles for instigating younger and/or impressionable minds to go out and ruin their lives acting out your gangsta-wannabe fantasies.

Instead of selling wolf tickets, you need to read Area 9 of Neely Fuller Jr.'s "The United Independent Compensatory Code/System/Concept".
You scared of homeland security are you? And you call someone else a coward or a fool? LOL! You need to stfd and stfu when grown folks are talking. Now, if you have something to say by way of name calling, I am a perfect candidate. Oh and I am in New york if you care to say it to MY face. U probably waiting for a spaceship to take you home though. "settles for instigating younger and/or impressionable minds to go out and ruin their lives acting out your gangsta-wannabe fantasies."..... U sound like a fool. Ok I got that off my chest. Now, you can go stand in the corner like a good little guy(?)
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stop fighting please. this is not a battle site. we don't roll that way.
all that fighting and challenging just ends up disturbing the peace.
it ain't worth the trouble.

He understands perfectly well the power of words to manipulate the unwise to do the unthinkable.

so does billary......:qqb009:

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stop fighting please. this is not a battle site. we don't roll that way.
all that fighting and challenging just ends up disturbing the peace.
it ain't worth the trouble.

jamesfrmphilly,

This always happens when non-white people do not have the focus of doing something, in a constructive manner, about our condition under this SYSTEM of injustice. When we do not understand our position in this race war we are in, what we must do to get out of this position and what our goal objective should be we will turn on each other.

See...we can't bully our way out of the position we're in because the white people who practice racism (white supremacy) have weapons that we haven't even dreamed of that they can use against us. But why should they? Keeping us ignorant about our position, what we must do to get out of this position and what our goal objective should be is working just fine for them. They'll use a few weapons here and there to keep the populations down but generally speaking it is business as usual.

All of their arrows pointing at us and all of our arrows pointing at each other.

Why do we continue to do this knowing that conflict between amongs ourselves is not behavior that works against the white people who practice racism (white supremacy)? Do you think it could be because we do not know how to handle replacing the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) with a SYSTEM of justice?

You ain't gonna do jack.

First off, any brother who was really into killing white folks would have to be a fool to talk about it on the Internet. The Dept. of Homeland Security monitors _EVERYTHING_ these days.

Therefore, I have to assume you are either a fool, or are just a coward who, lacking the cajones to stand up to white folks personally, settles for instigating younger and/or impressionable minds to go out and ruin their lives acting out your gangsta-wannabe fantasies.

Instead of selling wolf tickets, you need to read Area 9 of Neely Fuller Jr.'s "The United Independent Compensatory Code/System/Concept".




I'm sorry that it took so long to get back to this....but do you know me from somewhere? Well that obviously means that you don't know me at all. Now please allow me to clarify a few things about myself. 1. You can not tell me to READ ANYTHING that you are not aware that I may or may not have read already. I think you're the one that's late!!!....and I
do not agree with everything Mr. Fuller writes.

2. After being drafted in the marines during the vietnam era, just to come home and then wind up spending 17 years of my life in prison....you don't know who I done knocked off or anything else about me. Obviously I ain't afraid of no clear people that you call Po Po, Homeland security or anything else!! What they gone do....lock me up again!?...Kill me?....I don't believe in death!!!

3.Therefore it's you who are the COWARD! Unlike you, I will say whatever, where-ever and whenever without fear!!! However, let me clarify my position. I dropped out of this thread because I really understood the importance of it. I stated my position and I have not stated anything that Brother Malcome X didn't say in one of his speeches....providing you have heard them all.

4. Therefore anything I have been accused of in terms of inciting or influencing our youth is no more than a recap of an old message over 40 years ago. It was cool and acceptable when he said it but not me!?? Let me look at that picture again

5. As a student of the "Art of War", providing you have read that also, I would never lay my plans or intents out on the internet...but unlike you, white folks already know that about me since it was they who slipped up and placed in my file that I was a genius...but you don't have a file do you? So obviously white people ain't never got to watch you cause you ain't gone squeak one sound or move against them or any of their institutions, unlike me, are you??

6.White people openly talk about doing us everyday...in the military, in their labs, on the internet and any other place they want to....and I'm supposed to be afraid to have the same conversations about them that they are having about us???? Now what kind of MAN DO YOU CALL YOURSELF???...it must be a meek, cowardly and fearful one if you are afraid to speak on the same things that the white man speaks on....or is it that they are more man than we are???

The next time you decide to approach me about me, do so very lightly. walk on the same egg shells that you walk on with white people...aka, homeland security, aka, PoPo...because, who knows, they may be coming to get ya!!!

i most respectfully ask all the brothers to cool down their words.
no matter who said what first, we all need to exercise our manliness in the interest of peace.

we got to work together.

I respectfully agree....and I was trying to let it die off being that I never came out my golden pen with any type of plan....except for speaking in agreement with the words of Brother Malcome X. Prior to that I spoke on my own "personal preferences" without it being a suggestion for anyone else to do that or to join me or any other group who advocates such actions. After reading your response I shall attempt silence on this issue again instead of being challenged on it as if I am an idiot or non-thinking person.

i most respectfully ask all the brothers to cool down their words.
no matter who said what first, we all need to exercise our manliness in the interest of peace.

we got to work together.




You know I am gonna do as you ask, brother. Out of respect and friendship.

peace, please.....

i most respectfully ask all the brothers to cool down their words.
no matter who said what first, we all need to exercise our manliness in the interest of peace.

we got to work together.

this is so hot! whew! :blush:

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Destee

Amen

You were made in the likeness of a peace that nothing can disturb.

Reclaim your peace that you may attain to your reason for coming into existence:

The enjoyment of life.


Ausar

Your nature is an unconquerable peace, therefore nothing or no one can be against you.

All experiences come to you to promote your reclamation of peace, that you may, in turn, acquire wisdom and power.


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Destee

I suspected that they always have in one form or another...

but yes, be mindful of how you present yourself anywhere,





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online included...

true dat ...thankz