With the arrest and horrible situation that Leo Zagami is going through, it made me realize if Africans at home and abroad don't regain their occult power then the entire world is DOOMED! Leo is has been betrayed by his wife, lost custody of his son(his only child), and had all of his computers confiscated. The computers and his son were both taken less than 72 hours ago. Even through all of this, he still is doing everything possible to inform the world about the New World Order. He is white and doing everything he can to save this world if we don't step up and help him then we are as guilty as of the crime against humanity as the Illuminati is. It is our as the original people of this world to protect the peaceful masses from the devilish minority(the illuminati). They power that they are using to usher in the NWO is power develop by our ancient ancestors. Africa will NEVER lead the world again if we don't relearn our ancient ways.

You are very right brother
But it will take even more then this thread
A WHOLE LOT MORE
There are many who could care less if we want them to.....better yet if Society wants them to.
I am trying and I will continue to work on our Knowledge:em3200:
Change!
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You are very right brother
But it will take even more then this thread
A WHOLE LOT MORE
There are many who could care less if we want them to.....better yet if Society wants them to.
I am trying and I will continue to work on our Knowledge:em3200:
Change!e
:spinstar: :spinstar: :spinstar: :spinstar: :spinstar: :spinstar: :spinstar: :spinstar: :spinstar: :spinstar: :spinstar: :spinstar:
It amazes me that people would join a website built on raising African consciousness, like this and still remain too ignorant to care! People are always talking about how this needs to get done, how that needs to get done. My question is, if that is the case then why don't you do it?! Stop waiting on white folks to give you permission to help your people. Do it yourself! No one can save you except yourself. As this world comes to an end, your only alternative is to return to the ways of your ancient ancestors or perish with your slave master!

It amazes me that people would join a website built on raising African consciousness, like this and still remain too ignorant to care! People are always talking about how this needs to get done, how that needs to get done. My question is, if that is the case then why don't you do it?! Stop waiting on white folks to give you permission to help your people. Do it yourself! No one can save you except yourself. As this world comes to an end, your only alternative is to return to the ways of your ancient ancestors or perish with your slave master!
True Brother Knowledge
Change does not "Happen"
You MAKE Change
You Make That Happen!
Teaching
Sharing Philosophy
LEARNING
Confidence
Belief
Love
and
COMPASSION
That is ALL it takes

These are things that we should already be working on or making better
So....
We know if these are t in out Vocabulary RIGHT NOW
Then there is something VERY WRONG
That is a short list to harvest inside our bodies
People find room for much more
It is not hard to Love ourselves
If we love ourselves....we Automatically love others
We Need LOVE
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True Brother Knowledge
Change does not "Happen"
You MAKE Change
You Make That Happen!
Teaching
Sharing Philosophy
LEARNING
Confidence
Belief
Love
and
COMPASSION
That is ALL it takes

These are things that we should already be working on or making better
So....
We know if these are t in out Vocabulary RIGHT NOW
Then there is something VERY WRONG
That is a short list to harvest inside our bodies
People find room for much more
It is not hard to Love ourselves
If we love ourselves....we Automatically love others
We Need LOVE
:hearts2:
:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:
I agree with everything on that list, except "belief", because belief is one of the main reasons we are in such a deep whole now. The white man taught us to "believe" that someone would come and save us and that we can not save ourselves. This site should be one of the many bases for us to come together and teach and learn. This site could be the breeding ground for an African revolution, but instead people are more worried about what Barack Obama is doing. Sure he can make history, but he can't change anything! That is something that we will have to do on our own!

I agree with everything on that list, except "belief", because belief is one of the main reasons we are in such a deep whole now. The white man taught us to "believe" that someone would come and save us and that we can not save ourselves. This site should be one of the many bases for us to come together and teach and learn. This site could be the breeding ground for an African revolution, but instead people are more worried about what Barack Obama is doing. Sure he can make history, but he can't change anything! That is something that we will have to do on our own!
Ahhhhhhhhh!
BELIEF!
BELIEF in OUR SELVES!!!!

As far as Barack Obama, Our Future First African Descended President...

I am in need to Disagree with you...

He is our Breaking ground....Of ourse We have to work!!!
We would be Lazy AND SELFISH to expect or even THINKthat we re gonna have him doing ALL the Work
WE GOTTA WORK!
But many need to realize that when we turn on BET(OR ANY OTHER CHANNEL FOR THAT MATTER)
We do not see Barack Obama's
We see Pookie's and Shareka's
We may see a Raheim once in a While
ut NEVER EVER EVER Barack's On our Television Screen
(Please do not pretend we do)
And with out EVERYTHING else he is..
He should be President just for Giving us hat Image
JUST FOR THAT!!!!
So I am FULL support wih not even needing any other reason....but even more there...

It amazes me that people would join a website built on raising African consciousness, like this and still remain too ignorant to care! People are always talking about how this needs to get done, how that needs to get done. My question is, if that is the case then why don't you do it?! Stop waiting on white folks to give you permission to help your people. Do it yourself! No one can save you except yourself. As this world comes to an end, your only alternative is to return to the ways of your ancient ancestors or perish with your slave master!

Agreed. We talk tough stuff, but operate like powerless individuals. We, as a people, suffer from HIV/AIDS. African Intentional Deficiency Syndrome caused by humiliation, intimidation and violence. HIV causes AIDS. I personally invoke my spirits constantly and develop servitors to combat this system on a spiritual level.

Blackbird

Ahhhhhhhhh!
BELIEF!
BELIEF in OUR SELVES!!!!

As far as Barack Obama, Our Future First African Descended President...

I am in need to Disagree with you...

He is our Breaking ground....Of ourse We have to work!!!
We would be Lazy AND SELFISH to expect or even THINKthat we re gonna have him doing ALL the Work
WE GOTTA WORK!
But many need to realize that when we turn on BET(OR ANY OTHER CHANNEL FOR THAT MATTER)
We do not see Barack Obama's
We see Pookie's and Shareka's
We may see a Raheim once in a While
ut NEVER EVER EVER Barack's On our Television Screen
(Please do not pretend we do)
And with out EVERYTHING else he is..
He should be President just for Giving us hat Image
JUST FOR THAT!!!!
So I am FULL support wih not even needing any other reason....but even more there...
Again, I have to disagree. We can't afford to have a "BELIEF" in ourselves. We must KNOW ourselves. As far as Barack Obama, I definitely support the brother, but I don't expect him to make any changes for us. He is just for show. His political career is in the hands of white men who don't want to elect a woman.

Knowledge Seed, how shall we proceed? What you suggest...?

Blackbird

Knowledge Seed, how shall we proceed? What you suggest...?

Blackbird
We will never proceed until we return to our ancient ways, which starts with regaining our Knowledge of Self.

I agree as far as Knowledge of Self....I still do Believe that Believeing is apart of it....lol
But I understand you....AND you are right
It is Obvious though
It is Abvious we ned to emrace out NATIVE heritage and culture
If not to regain....then just to know our beginnings....not just Martin Luther King Jr. and Occasionaly Malcolm X
It get tedious
and it gets Old
There is So much Knowledge for us to seed(:))
and grow into......and Learning about US is ONLY the beginning
ONLY THE BEGINNING

I agree as far as Knowledge of Self....I still do Believe that Believeing is apart of it....lol
But I understand you....AND you are right
It is Obvious though
It is Abvious we ned to emrace out NATIVE heritage and culture
If not to regain....then just to know our beginnings....not just Martin Luther King Jr. and Occasionaly Malcolm X
It get tedious
and it gets Old
There is So much Knowledge for us to seed(:))
and grow into......and Learning about US is ONLY the beginning
ONLY THE BEGINNING
True indeed

We will never proceed until we return to our ancient ways, which starts with regaining our Knowledge of Self.

Agreed, hence my involvement in a few African traditions. I guess you missed my previous point.

Blackbird

Agreed, hence my involvement in a few African traditions. I guess you missed my previous point.

Blackbird
What African traditions are available in the U.S.?

What African traditions are available in the U.S.?

You have Ifa, Ab'orisa, Dahomean Vodoun and it derivatives, Congo-derived traditions and Akan based belief systems. I am, per instruction from my ancestors, involved in three of these traditions and although I stress that these traditions are complete unto themselves, I advocate an integration of these systems into a new coherent system due to our history as children of African captives. I can not speak for anyone else, but I am inspired and motivated by the Africans in 1700 Ayiti and seek to utilize the knowledge bestowed upon me to replicate in feasible ways the spark that came about. The main reason I practice why I practice is because I know this will be essential in our ultimate liberation as a people. I have strong and passionate opinions about this resulting in no less than 3 essays written about this matter. It's just like the elder Isanusi in 2000 Seasons. There must be a return to our WAY for revival and striving conditions to take root.

Trust me, brother, your appeal is not lost to me. In one dream I had, about 9 years ago, an ancestor that walks with me came to visit. He showed me two houses. One house was magnificent and well-kept. The other house was decayed and badly neglect, falling down to pieces. My ancestor indicated that the magnificent house was how our house used to be and the decaying house was how our house is now. He make known through telepathic like communication that my job was to take the house now and rebuild it to how it was before. The dream ended with me as a little boy palying catch with this ancestor. He tossed me the ball and I woked up. I understood the dream to mean our house is falling apart and its up to me, my generation, to begin the process of repairing this house to former glory. Him tossing me the ball was a conferring of that role and a blessing of his assistance.

Blackbird

You have Ifa, Ab'orisa, Dahomean Vodoun and it derivatives, Congo-derived traditions and Akan based belief systems. I am, per instruction from my ancestors, involved in three of these traditions and although I stress that these traditions are complete unto themselves, I advocate an integration of these systems into a new coherent system due to our history as children of African captives. I can not speak for anyone else, but I am inspired and motivated by the Africans in 1700 Ayiti and seek to utilize the knowledge bestowed upon me to replicate in feasible ways the spark that came about. The main reason I practice why I practice is because I know this will be essential in our ultimate liberation as a people. I have strong and passionate opinions about this resulting in no less than 3 essays written about this matter. It's just like the elder Isanusi in 2000 Seasons. There must be a return to our WAY for revival and striving conditions to take root.

Trust me, brother, your appeal is not lost to me. In one dream I had, about 9 years ago, an ancestor that walks with me came to visit. He showed me two houses. One house was magnificent and well-kept. The other house was decayed and badly neglect, falling down to pieces. My ancestor indicated that the magnificent house was how our house used to be and the decaying house was how our house is now. He make known through telepathic like communication that my job was to take the house now and rebuild it to how it was before. The dream ended with me as a little boy palying catch with this ancestor. He tossed me the ball and I woked up. I understood the dream to mean our house is falling apart and its up to me, my generation, to begin the process of repairing this house to former glory. Him tossing me the ball was a conferring of that role and a blessing of his assistance.

Blackbird
The reason I asked whether any of these traditions were located in the US is because, if we want our people to return to our ancient way of living, then we must provide the doorway for them to walk through.

Are there any well known Diaspora in high places(politics, business, law, etc) that practice African Traditional Religion?

Are there any well known Diaspora in high places(politics, business, law, etc) that practice African Traditional Religion?

I can not think of anyone that we will both know at the moment, but undoubtably there are some lawyers, professors and business people. My wife is currently in law school. She is from Ghana and she follows her ancestral beliefs per the spirits' request.

Blackbird

I can not think of anyone that we will both know at the moment, but undoubtably there are some lawyers, professors and business people. My wife is currently in law school. She is from Ghana and she follows her ancestral beliefs per the spirits' request.

Blackbird
If someone wanted to return to ATR, how would they know what Traditional House they belong to?

If someone wanted to return to ATR, how would they know what Traditional House they belong to?

Inquiry and selection.

Blackbird

The reason I asked whether any of these traditions were located in the US is because, if we want our people to return to our ancient way of living, then we must provide the doorway for them to walk through.

I agree wholeheartedly. We must be Isanusi and assist our people into the sacred grove passed the 5th grove. I have some ideas on that.

Blackbird

I agree wholeheartedly. We must be Isanusi and assist our people into the sacred grove passed the 5th grove. I have some ideas on that.

Blackbird
Could you share those ideas?