What is this book or any of RUNA's books doing for you. I think the ppl are getting different uses and things out of his books. I don't think his books are for everybody or maybe everybody isn't in the right mind set to digest it. The book does make it clear to me that there are many paths to Ausar which is your highest spiritual level. The Metu Neter reveals more paths of 'inner truths' vs info which I must have blind faith to accept.

I'm hoping this can provide healthy dialog btwn those who do have a dilemma with the book or the author without anyone having to run and report to the moderators that someone is disturbing the peace. But all I ask is that we all be respectful to each other. Keeping in mind that we're family here. Also if there is something you don't understand about it, share it here and hopefully someone can reply back and clear up the matter.

Ive already named one of my short comings concerning the Metu Neter. It did explain and talk about meditation but it just isn't sinking in. It is doing an incredible job pealing off the layers of illusion I've been living and see other ppl living. Not only that but shaping the one reality we live in and making it my own. The importance msg of peace, happiness and staying positive is also very much the food for the soul I get from my readings. Above all I what I needed to know about God/True Self.

Oh I can't forget
I think it provides the tools needed for me to relate to what Men Nefer and Istlota expresses. lol two incredible wordsmiths.

I'm here to learn

Peace

The msg of gaining the Knowledge of Self also needs to be mentioned on top of the list.

Also the Metu Neter Vol 1 & 2, Maat(11 laws of God), and T.O.L.M. are spiritual books that doesn't appear to have any contradictions with science or it's self that I can fathom.

What is this book or any of RUNA's books doing for you. I think the ppl are getting different uses and things out of his books. I don't think his books are for everybody or maybe everybody isn't in the right mind set to digest it. The book does make it clear to me that there are many paths to Ausar which is your highest spiritual level. The Metu Neter reveals more paths of 'inner truths' vs info which I must have blind faith to accept.

I'm hoping this can provide healthy dialog btwn those who do have a dilemma with the book or the author without anyone having to run and report to the moderators that someone is disturbing the peace. But all I ask is that we all be respectful to each other. Keeping in mind that we're family here. Also if there is something you don't understand about it, share it here and hopefully someone can reply back and clear up the matter.

Ive already named one of my short comings concerning the Metu Neter. It did explain and talk about meditation but it just isn't sinking in. It is doing an incredible job pealing off the layers of illusion I've been living and see other ppl living. Not only that but shaping the one reality we live in and making it my own. The importance msg of peace, happiness and staying positive is also very much the food for the soul I get from my readings. Above all I what I needed to know about God/True Self.

Oh I can't forget
I think it provides the tools needed for me to relate to what Men Nefer and Istlota expresses. lol two incredible wordsmiths.

I'm here to learn

Peace



mertu neter pu setem an setem en mesetu neter

"What is loved of God is obedience; disobedience hateth God

ut'a-f met neter as set'em-nef metu

"He weigheth words, and, behold God harkeneth unto the words".

This is ANCIENT Wisdom that is not contained soley in one book and not the posession of one group or "society".

This is what it means to ME.

And I will leave it at that.

Peace.

Thanks for your reply. The books mentions many different paths for different times and societies. Also how the deities in one school of thought was the equivalent in another. This in its self is a definite eye opener.
Your input is welcome here. Like I said I truly want to learn and have a healthy dialog in a positive setting such as this.

The Truth is Universal therefore

''This is ANCIENT Wisdom that is not contained soley in one book and not the posession of one group or "society".

Is a fair assessment I can concur with.
:em0800:

What is this book or any of RUNA's books doing for you. I think the ppl are getting different uses and things out of his books. I don't think his books are for everybody or maybe everybody isn't in the right mind set to digest it. The book does make it clear to me that there are many paths to Ausar which is your highest spiritual level. The Metu Neter reveals more paths of 'inner truths' vs info which I must have blind faith to accept.

I'm hoping this can provide healthy dialog btwn those who do have a dilemma with the book or the author without anyone having to run and report to the moderators that someone is disturbing the peace. But all I ask is that we all be respectful to each other. Keeping in mind that we're family here. Also if there is something you don't understand about it, share it here and hopefully someone can reply back and clear up the matter.

Ive already named one of my short comings concerning the Metu Neter. It did explain and talk about meditation but it just isn't sinking in. It is doing an incredible job pealing off the layers of illusion I've been living and see other ppl living. Not only that but shaping the one reality we live in and making it my own. The importance msg of peace, happiness and staying positive is also very much the food for the soul I get from my readings. Above all I what I needed to know about God/True Self.

Oh I can't forget
I think it provides the tools needed for me to relate to what Men Nefer and Istlota expresses. lol two incredible wordsmiths.

I'm here to learn

Peace
If you please, I need a few days and will come back to this. I KNOW...you are sharing some uniques insights and I am interested in BE
~ing engaged in discussion wth you ....and....it's later and I'm tired....

going to go back to movie which i have not finished adn may work next two nights.

If I do...I will be getting back @ wed. some time.

Unitl WE meet again....


Stay Safe and Strong....

:hearts2:

Thanks for your reply. The books mentions many different paths for different times and societies. Also how the deities in one school of thought was the equivalent in another. This in its self is a definite eye opener.
Your input is welcome here. Like I said I truly want to learn and have a healthy dialog in a positive setting such as this.

The Truth is Universal therefore

''This is ANCIENT Wisdom that is not contained soley in one book and not the posession of one group or "society".

Is a fair assessment I can concur with.
:em0800:
Quote:
"The books mentions many different paths for different times and societies".

True. This is why one need not be an initiate in any one order to recieve the truth. To be more specific, the one thing that I did get from the "book" is that i is a system of self-initiation.

SELF-INITIATION.

I dont need a priest or guru to teach me the meditative techniques or to decipher the meaning of the text. As far as the deities in one school being the equivalent to another I found this to be true. But I also found that for me personally I connect with The Memphite Theology and related deities such as Ptah, Sekhmet and Heru-khuti. Not Ra or Amen for Ptah was worshipped at an earlier period. I do however associate also with Het-Heru, Maat, Anubia and Auset.

To be totally honest, and some have said Im confused [maybe so] I actually got more KNOWLEDGE from reading Stolen Legacy and perhaps because it was written at an earlier period and I've had more time to digest it. Further more, I got a strong influence from Rasta and jazz musicians such as John and Alice Coltrane and typically meditate [as i did earlier tonight] listening to jazz or reggae/dub music.

Alice Coltrane is as far as I need to go into the Hindu influence. But whenever I see the words "Kabbalistic tradition" for some reason I turn off.

Brother you have my email and I may have to respond to some posts via that device. Im really hesitant, for some obvious reasons, to become silent on the "metu neter" in a public setting. Especially reading a text the other day. Its like this. I identify very strongly to heru-khuti and Auset. Its like a relationship between me and a great-aunt. She gave me instruction that I never make public. The things she taught me from "above". Some things are meant to be kept within the Family. And every brother here aint a brother, not to ME.

Peace...

Quote:
"The books mentions many different paths for different times and societies".

True. This is why one need not be an initiate in any one order to recieve the truth. To be more specific, the one thing that I did get from the "book" is that i is a system of self-initiation.

SELF-INITIATION.

I dont need a priest or guru to teach me the meditative techniques or to decipher the meaning of the text. As far as the deities in one school being the equivalent to another I found this to be true. But I also found that for me personally I connect with The Memphite Theology and related deities such as Ptah, Sekhmet and Heru-khuti. Not Ra or Amen for Ptah was worshipped at an earlier period. I do however associate also with Het-Heru, Maat, Anubia and Auset.

To be totally honest, and some have said Im confused [maybe so] I actually got more KNOWLEDGE from reading Stolen Legacy and perhaps because it was written at an earlier period and I've had more time to digest it. Further more, I got a strong influence from Rasta and jazz musicians such as John and Alice Coltrane and typically meditate [as i did earlier tonight] listening to jazz or reggae/dub music.

Alice Coltrane is as far as I need to go into the Hindu influence. But whenever I see the words "Kabbalistic tradition" for some reason I turn off.

Brother you have my email and I may have to respond to some posts via that device. Im really hesitant, for some obvious reasons, to become silent on the "metu neter" in a public setting. Especially reading a text the other day. Its like this. I identify very strongly to heru-khuti and Auset. Its like a relationship between me and a great-aunt. She gave me instruction that I never make public. The things she taught me from "above". Some things are meant to be kept within the Family. And every brother here aint a brother, not to ME.

Peace...

Another aspect of Truth is eternal. What was manifested and/or intuited back in the day can be manifested and/or intuited today.

as far as
'To be totally honest, and some have said Im confused [maybe so] I actually got more KNOWLEDGE from reading Stolen Legacy and perhaps because it was written at an earlier period and I've had more time to digest it. Further more, I got a strong influence from Rasta and jazz musicians such as John and Alice Coltrane and typically meditate [as i did earlier tonight] listening to jazz or reggae/dub music.'

It must be understood that we all have different perspectives and we should try and at least be respectful of others perspective if nothing more than to at least be able to dialog with each other. It was recently said here that 'behind every good man there is a good woman.' Well that is a matter of perspective. I could be observing that same reality and say 'what is he talking about that good man is clearly behind that good woman' . One reality different perspectives. There is no right or wrong in this case. If we argue whose view is the right one. Then we run the risk of avoiding communications altogether. Not good. If we all have the same perspective then that leaves us with a limited amount of phenomena to talk about. However conversing back or forth about the different perspectives respectively will manifest some stimulating and insightful conversations.

Therein reveals the purpose for this thread.

Hotep

Hotep HipHopolx! and
thanks for the conversation. I did have a couple questions as I listen to ppl share thier experiences, strengths and plans related to the contents of the Metu Neter and other Spiritual systems.

Regarding the Metu Neter....I keep seeing the term/name "RUNA"...

As i listened to you in this thread, it seems that "RUNA" is a person. Is that right:?:

Now..I have volume one of the book (had vol.2 yet it was lost during travels) and I've read some. I don't know much about the author except what i've read here and others sources on the net. Yet, is "RUNA" the author:?:

Also, I have asked a couple times and even started a thread seeking more information about the "cards" and how they are used in conjunction with the book. The title of that thread was "Just a thougth" or something like that.

Anywho....I'm glad you started this thread and I'm interested in hearting others folks questions and/or sharing info here and within the Metu Neter Forum.

I'd like to share more of my intuitions and influences to my Spiritual life and development...yet..no time right now.

Nice Job HipHopolx....I'm also enjoying the work your doing here!

:hearts2:

Regarding the Metu Neter....I keep seeing the term/name "RUNA"...As i listened to you in this thread, it seems that "RUNA" is a person. Is that right:?:
RUNA stands for ra un nefer amen the brother who wrote the metu neter

RUNA stands for ra un nefer amen the brother who wrote the metu neter

I C!

Thank You:spinstar:

:hearts2:

Another aspect of Truth is eternal. What was manifested and/or intuited back in the day can be manifested and/or intuited today.

as far as
'To be totally honest, and some have said Im confused [maybe so] I actually got more KNOWLEDGE from reading Stolen Legacy and perhaps because it was written at an earlier period and I've had more time to digest it. Further more, I got a strong influence from Rasta and jazz musicians such as John and Alice Coltrane and typically meditate [as i did earlier tonight] listening to jazz or reggae/dub music.'

It must be understood that we all have different perspectives and we should try and at least be respectful of others perspective if nothing more than to at least be able to dialog with each other. It was recently said here that 'behind every good man there is a good woman.' Well that is a matter of perspective. I could be observing that same reality and say 'what is he talking about that good man is clearly behind that good woman' . One reality different perspectives. There is no right or wrong in this case. If we argue whose view is the right one. Then we run the risk of avoiding communications altogether. Not good. If we all have the same perspective then that leaves us with a limited amount of phenomena to talk about. However conversing back or forth about the different perspectives respectively will manifest some stimulating and insightful conversations.

Therein reveals the purpose for this thread.

Hotep
I agree with everything you have stated thus far but find the CONTEXT rather limiting and it is one in which, for some obvious reasons, that I am hesitant to give further input.

For example, Dr. Muata Ashby speaks of the METU NETER, SACRED SPEECH in a "different" context In doing so, he compares statements and teachings from the Indian Upanishads, the METU NETER and the Christian Bible and how they are relative to Hieroglyphic texts for example,

Nuk Pu Nuh.
("I Am That I AM)

This is a Universal Truth.

On page 101 of "Egyptian Yoga", He states,

"Therefore, the primary "Godhead" or "Supreme Being" is both male and female"

and in this context also mentions "Hathor" in the process of salvation. I find in this a "different" explanation than that given in another context. And I identify with this "different" context than the one in which you seek explanation.

Relative to meditation, I find Ashby's works to me more in-line with my own Spirit. Why? Because this teaching also speaks to the Shetaut Neter, which is to say, "The Way of the Hidden Supreme Being".

Peace...

ra un nefer amen wrote the metu neter. why should we be discussing ashby in a thread devoted to the metu neter?
there seems to be a school of thought that everyone should initiate their own self. do their own thing and interpret the text the way they want to.

i do not subscribe to that school.

We have to remember that most people come from the background of
"reading" and "interpretation" of spiritual books or texts related to a "belief system."

The question is how have people been applying the information which is compiled in the book. There are specific mantras and an oracle system prescribed, with breathing instructions etc.

The point I am making is that questions concerning the material in the book (or any book for that matter) can be tested and verified through experience.
It was not meant to be simply read. Will reading about weightlifting increase your lean muscle mass?

If you read and digested the book you have only done less than 1/3rd of the work. You have not even begun to read that book until you have applied some of it.

So let's talk about our experiences in terms of what we have applied from this book. Has anyone actually done any of the meditations or worked with the oracle system? Has anyone followed through on it?

ra un nefer amen wrote the metu neter. why should we be discussing ashby in a thread devoted to the metu neter?
there seems to be a school of thought that everyone should initiate their own self. do their own thing and interpret the text the way they want to.

i do not subscribe to that school.

Is this discussion confined to ONE book written by ONE man.

If so, I will post no further.

Thanks for your reply. The books mentions many different paths for different times and societies. Also how the deities in one school of thought was the equivalent in another. This in its self is a definite eye opener.
Your input is welcome here. Like I said I truly want to learn and have a healthy dialog in a positive setting such as this.

The Truth is Universal therefore

''This is ANCIENT Wisdom that is not contained soley in one book and not the posession of one group or "society".

Is a fair assessment I can concur with.
:em0800:
For now on I will deal with this elsewhere.

I dont feel as if my "input" is really welcome and I dont have the discipline to use one and only reference as the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Peace my brother...

Has anyone actually done any of the meditations or worked with the oracle system? Has anyone followed through on it?
i have been doing that for a minute. i am under the guidance of the AAS in my city.

Is this discussion confined to ONE book written by ONE man..
well the title is ...Metu Neter and You...that is one book written by one man

peace brother

Brother hiphopholx :bowdown:

Awesome thread and the tone you set with your intro post is perfect.

Bro omo your input is welcome so please keep it coming.

Bro james your input is welcome also, but please refrain from trying to moderate who all can post and what the content of their posts should be.

If you do not care to discuss a particular response then ignore it and respond to the things you are moved to respond to.

Peace.

well the title is ...Metu Neter and You...that is one book written by one man

peace brother

This statement only PROVES what Iave been saying for years, which is why I asked for clarification.

The "metu neter" is not simply "one book written by one man".

It is the HIEROGLYPHIC LANGUAGE of the Ancients.

It is the same "metu neter" [LANGUAGE] contained within the Pert em Hru.

It is specifically the "medu neter" the DIVINE WORDS of the Neter, which, according to Memphite Theology, consists purely of several texts such as the Papyrus of Ani, the Pyramid texts, the Book of Gates, The Book of Pylons and many more.

If you have a singular reference please cease in attempting to impost this singular reference upon my multiple referenced perspective.

"The content of Egypt's sacred literature covers the widest range of spiritual, mathematical, astronomical and magical writings ever produced by a civilization."

In the context of the initial question of this thread, for ME, the value that I find, in studying the "SACRED LITERATURE of THE ANCIENTS is a body of ancient knowledge which can offer clues to past human accomplishments as well as MY future possibilities.

And I meditate utilizing various techniques in order to "commune" with The Ancients and seek their guidance in reaching my full human potential.

In this "communion" I am finding Ashby's "Egyptian Yoga" to be quite useful as well as the teachings of the Earth Center, particularly in reference to learning more of the Kemetic Calendar system and associated Neter.

Rather than using books, I am like the old folks who go out and map the stars and study their movements. This was instilled within me in my youth long before I could read any Sacred Literature. It was instilled within my HEART.

Brother hiphopholx :bowdown:

Awesome thread and the tone you set with your intro post is perfect.

Bro omo your input is welcome so please keep it coming.

Bro james your input is welcome also, but please refrain from trying to moderate who all can post and what the content of their posts should be.

If you do not care to discuss a particular response then ignore it and respond to the things you are moved to respond to.

Peace.

However, hopefully I anwsered the question adequately and If not, I apologize. I dont want to further be accused of "detraction". I do have a question though in regards to related "texts" but dont know where to ask.

Brother hiphopholx :bowdown:

Awesome thread and the tone you set with your intro post is perfect.

Bro omo your input is welcome so please keep it coming.

Bro james your input is welcome also, but please refrain from trying to moderate who all can post and what the content of their posts should be.

If you do not care to discuss a particular response then ignore it and respond to the things you are moved to respond to.

Peace.
i am only interested in discussing the metu neter written by ra un nefer amen. is it possible to do that on this site? i do not go into the threads of any other belief and say anything at all. are you stating that there is no way to have a thread devoted to the metu neter? there is no way at destee to have a thread limited to one particular subject?

i am only interested in discussing the metu neter written by ra un nefer amen. is it possible to do that on this site? i do not go into the threads of any other belief and say anything at all. are you stating that there is no way to have a thread devoted to the metu neter? there is no way at destee to have a thread limited to one particular subject?

Bro james you want to define the boundaries for what is acceptable in the Metu Neter forum, and those boundaries are more narrow than the original intent.

Honestly I'd rather not derail an excellent thread by hiphopholx.

How about you start a new thread where you voice your concerns for how this subforum should be run and let's deal with it there?

Until then, engage where you are moved to engage but don't discourage others from doing the same.

Peace.

Hotep HipHopolx! and
thanks for the conversation. I did have a couple questions as I listen to ppl share thier experiences, strengths and plans related to the contents of the Metu Neter and other Spiritual systems.

Regarding the Metu Neter....I keep seeing the term/name "RUNA"...

As i listened to you in this thread, it seems that "RUNA" is a person. Is that right:?:

Now..I have volume one of the book (had vol.2 yet it was lost during travels) and I've read some. I don't know much about the author except what i've read here and others sources on the net. Yet, is "RUNA" the author:?:

Also, I have asked a couple times and even started a thread seeking more information about the "cards" and how they are used in conjunction with the book. The title of that thread was "Just a thougth" or something like that.

Anywho....I'm glad you started this thread and I'm interested in hearting others folks questions and/or sharing info here and within the Metu Neter Forum.

I'd like to share more of my intuitions and influences to my Spiritual life and development...yet..no time right now.

Nice Job HipHopolx....I'm also enjoying the work your doing here!

:hearts2:

Hey Sister/Goddess Truetothecause

I'd like to have a discussion about how the cards work. I've had 2 readings both readings were on point. One of the readings though :em16:

I didn't get the answer I wanted, instead I got the answer that was right and that I needed.
I even tried to sway the question that I asked to go in the direction I wanted it to go. It didn't work.
It was for best and I'm thankful for it. More importantly,

I did what was right and what was best.

My fist question about the cards are.
What aspect of God is communicating through the cards?

If you can communicate some how (meditation and/or intuit or even some other means), Do you need the readings? Or do you still have a purpose for them?

Thanks everyone "EVERYONE" I feel I need to emphasize this.

I have another question?

Doesn't R.U.N.A refer to other books within his books?

The books to me relate to all of reality.

The theme of this thread Is the Metu Neter and You. All the info shared so far is well within that framework.

Let's focus on understanding all that we can within and around the truths relating to subject.

Communication is key here. But I do understand not everyone is as gifted as others in the art of comunicating. Keeping this in mind let's try to overlook, what we feel in the moment. Let's not let this fizzle out so we can get to goal here. We all need a much needed elavation of awareness of ourselves. There are 'things' holding us back within ourselves that some may realize of its presence but it is still as hidden as the dark star behind the Sirius. Others may not have a clue of it at all. So for me, I need this dialog. I also need this dialog to be just as useful to all that participate. The importance of this is due to the fact that our lives are intertwined here. More than most realize. If someone here is willing to take the time and provide some useful data that another can learn from let us see it for what it is. If the data can be modified so it can be more in tune with the truth. let us see it for what it is. But lets try to put the negative energy in check. If not for your self then for your people.

Hotep

Thanks everyone "EVERYONE" I feel I need to emphasize this.

I have another question?

Doesn't R.U.N.A refer to other books within his books?

The books to me relate to all of reality.

The theme of this thread Is the Metu Neter and You. All the info shared so far is well within that framework.

Let's focus on understanding all that we can within and around the truths relating to subject.

Communication is key here. But I do understand not everyone is as gifted as others in the art of comunicating. Keeping this in mind let's try to overlook, what we feel in the moment. Let's not let this fizzle out so we can get to goal here. We all need a much needed elavation of awareness of ourselves. There are 'things' holding us back within ourselves that some may realize of its presence but it is still as hidden as the dark star behind the Sirius. Others may not have a clue of it at all. So for me, I need this dialog. I also need this dialog to be just as useful to all that participate. The importance of this is due to the fact that our lives are intertwined here. More than most realize. If someone here is willing to take the time and provide some useful data that another can learn from let us see it for what it is. If the data can be modified so it can be more in tune with the truth. let us see it for what it is. But lets try to put the negative energy in check. If not for your self then for your people.

Hotep


In reference to your question, he sure does. In the bibliography. And, I believe, in the footnotes. Since I now go off of memory and don't have the books in hand [they are in storage since I moved] I do remember several of Budge's books and I remember putting together all of the books mentioned and creating a section in my personal library solely for those books. And I am sure one of those books was Budge's version of the "Book of the Dead". Again, I am going off memory, so please correct me if I am wrong.


Something else. I now remember stating before that I gave volume 1 to a cousin in Philly who was attempting to start a rites of passage program for young black men and I suggested she use the metu neter. I haven't talked to her since but hopefully she found some usage.

Walking the spiritual path is a very subtle process; it is not something to jump into naively.

There are numerous sidetracks, which lead to a distorted, ego-centered version of spirituality;

we can deceive ourselves into 'thinking' we are developing spiritually

when instead we are strengthening our egocentricity

through spiritual techniques.



-Chogyam Trungpa

"Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism"

My fist question about the cards are.
What aspect of God is communicating through the cards?

If you can communicate some how (meditation and/or intuit or even some other means), Do you need the readings? Or do you still have a purpose for them?


If you read the book it says that the cards communicate with the Tehuti part of your spirit. In other words that is your direct telephone line to the Tehuti sphere.

This is a good question because, remember, there are all sorts of methods or casting of lots or cards, and they don't all act as "telephones" for the same parts of your spirit or the same levels of consciousness or the same entities.
Meditation is the same- some techniques are for the Heru aspect, some are for the Seker-t aspect of your being. Another example: some meditation techniques used in martial arts and qi qong are aimed at what was called the khaibit in Kamit. I can strengthen my aura and do all kinds of things with it, but that is not necessarily the same as wisdom.

So simply because the person can meditate and get insight doesn't automatically mean that it is coming from that high part of the spirit, or that they can do it CONSISTENTLY (all day long, under any circumstances, during sleep, etc.). You have to look at what type of meditation are you doing, what are the thoughts you are putting in your mind, how are you cultivating your energy, etc.

To test this you may do readings on that insights that you get from meditation, and follow or not follow the reading.

The fundamental point in the book (which helps you to avoid spiritual materialism) is that the program is laid out in such a way that you have to deal with who is pursuing the material things in this world and why.

In the chapters on initiation and meditation they discuss the meditation techniques used to transform your belief system. This is very important, especially since a major pitfall comes from mistaking information for knowledge. Thinking that because you have read something that you know it.

That is a major source of "spiritual materialism".

However, that phrase seems to be sort of an oxymoron, doesn't it?

We have to remember that most people come from the background of
"reading" and "interpretation" of spiritual books or texts related to a "belief system."

The question is how have people been applying the information which is compiled in the book. There are specific mantras and an oracle system prescribed, with breathing instructions etc.

The point I am making is that questions concerning the material in the book (or any book for that matter) can be tested and verified through experience.
It was not meant to be simply read. Will reading about weightlifting increase your lean muscle mass?

If you read and digested the book you have only done less than 1/3rd of the work. You have not even begun to read that book until you have applied some of it.

So let's talk about our experiences in terms of what we have applied from this book. Has anyone actually done any of the meditations or worked with the oracle system? Has anyone followed through on it?

Thank you for this input. I think you're reveling my own faults of why I'm not getting all that I should be getting out of these books. I have been relating to wealth of self knowledge in his works. So my focus has been on that. I've tried the meditations. I do come out relaxed. I've have not done enough them repetitively so maybe this is where I'm at fault I'm not sure.

True, the meditations are most effective if you can do them for 21 days consecutively and then relax a little bit and check your progress.

I had to take a local class on meditation from AAS in my area in order to get it right. It took some practice!

However there was one very key thing that I learned from learning to meditate.

I learned that waking, sleep, and daydreaming, heart rate, etc. are controlled by involuntary parts of my mind (or whatever) however, many involuntary functions in your body can be controlled indirectly if you know where the "switch" is.

And a major switch for where you consciousness or awareness is focused is your breathing. There's a whole chapter on the harmonics of breath in the Metu Neter but I didnt' understand any of it until I began using it.

I've been looking for the book where RUNA lists the descriptions of all the personality types, and his explanation of the reasoning of mastering them all. (I haven't completely forgotten why, I just want to review over this) I have a few of his books here with me and I plan on getting my Metu Neter Vol. 1 back tomorrow to see if it's in there. If anyone knows could you help a bro out. :read:

Thanks

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Yes thank you.
Do you know which book has the info I was inquiring about?

[QUOTE=Enensa Aunghk]If you read the book it says that the cards communicate with the Tehuti part of your spirit. In other words that is your direct telephone line to the Tehuti sphere.

This is a good question because, remember, there are all sorts of methods or casting of lots or cards, and they don't all act as "telephones" for the same parts of your spirit or the same levels of consciousness or the same entities.
Meditation is the same- some techniques are for the Heru aspect, some are for the Seker-t aspect of your being. Another example: some meditation techniques used in martial arts and qi qong are aimed at what was called the khaibit in Kamit. I can strengthen my aura and do all kinds of things with it, but that is not necessarily the same as wisdom.

So simply because the person can meditate and get insight doesn't automatically mean that it is coming from that high part of the spirit, or that they can do it CONSISTENTLY (all day long, under any circumstances, during sleep, etc.). You have to look at what type of meditation are you doing, what are the thoughts you are putting in your mind, how are you cultivating your energy, etc.

To test this you may do readings on that insights that you get from meditation, and follow or not follow the reading.[/QUOT


Question about the cards,

Do initiates/readers of the metu neter read the cards themselves or do they consult a reader?

Do initiates/readers of the metu neter read the cards themselves or do they consult a reader?
there seems to be a movement afoot to have people read themselves. everyone is doing their own thing.
i do not agree with that. i will always consult a priest for a reading.

there seems to be a movement afoot to have people read themselves. everyone is doing their own thing.
i do not agree with that. i will always consult a priest for a reading.


I agree; traditionally, consulting the oracle is usually done by another person, from what i was taught you cannot get an accurate reading by doing it your self.. your subconscious can sometimes inject your own wishes into the reading making it bias/inaccurate.

thx

Namaste'

I agree; traditionally, consulting the oracle is usually done by another person, from what i was taught you cannot get an accurate reading by doing it your self.. your subconscious can sometimes inject your own wishes into the reading making it bias/inaccurate.

thx

Namaste'

(I am always for balance if percievable) I don't think there is anything fundamentally wrong about someone doing their own readings (The Cards are accessable by the society and the book does not deter those from doing so) but I do agree with guidance from elders or shepsu. One must seriously become familiar with the interelationships existing between the Neteru before doing either.

Walking the spiritual path is a very subtle process; it is not something to jump into naively.

There are numerous sidetracks, which lead to a distorted, ego-centered version of spirituality;

we can deceive ourselves into 'thinking' we are developing spiritually

when instead we are strengthening our egocentricity

through spiritual techniques.



-Chogyam Trungpa

"Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism"
This is and interesting thought. It makes me wonder who/how do you ever really "trust" anyone:?: more importantly, how/when do I know when I DOING it to myself:?:....deceiving self I mean:?:


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As I listened I thought...


I call it:
Meditations from the Battlefield
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how/when do I know when I DOING it to myself:?:....deceiving self I mean
i'll tell you....:nono:

The duality of reality ( for predominately linear thinkers) is challenging indeed.
tell me about it....yo

This is and interesting thought. It makes me wonder who/how do you ever really "trust" anyone:?: more importantly, how/when do I know when I DOING it to myself:?:....deceiving self I mean:?:


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Good question Sis and a very "intimate" one , considering most people don't want to give off the vibe that IT is even a problem for them. It is not a very secure place to be and opens one to be exploited. I hear alot of people use the phrase " You do you and I'll do me" as if it is better to delude oneself into thinking that their rationalizations are incontrovertably unique or that we don't have to be accountable to each other at all. Sometimes the sheer strength of ones self imposed ignorance provides enough grounds for the confidence needed to push on through all the things or people that allude to ones naivety.
The duality of reality ( for predominately linear thinkers) is challenging indeed.

I began by taking a few running starts at vols I and II of the Metu Neter, but knew I was missing something critical. I sensed there was something extremely valuable here, but could just not "see" what it was. I had digested I don't know how many books/threads/articles/videos referring to the Metu Neter. But, so many people had clearly come away with so many differing notions of what the Metu Neter means -- and, of course, they all were 100% convinced that their truth was the only real truth. Alas, this is so often the way men treat their holy books. I understand this error well, for I, also, have to struggle constantly against becoming a heresy hunter.

Then, on a long road trip, I made several rest stops, walking and reading "MAAT - The 11 Laws of God" at each stop. And, the light finally came on over my head.

1:The Law of Ausar
"Your nature is an unconquerable peace, therefore nothing or no one in the world can be against you. All experiences come to you to promote your reclamation of peace, that you may in turn, acquire wisdom and power."
2:The Law of Tehuti
"When all your thoughts, feelings and actions reflect the Word of God, then the power of God's spirit and a peace that nothing can challenge will flow through your being."
3:The Law of Sekher
"When the emotions of Man manifest in response to the Word of God, they have the power to influence the course of any and all events in the world."
The only reason any of us draw breath in this mortal life is to realize Peace On Earth. And, here, in just a few words, three Laws of God, can be found the Way for us to do just that.

Here, in the Divine Trinity of the Metu Neter, RUNA articulated something so POWERFUL, so BRILLIANT, and so UNIVERSAL! All three laws of God could just have easily been uttered by Jesus, Buddha, or Lord Krishna, because all these men taught that the Path to Peace is not to be found by attacking an external enemy, but by realizing the omnipotence/omniscience/omnipresence of the Divine within I.

In truth, Jesus, Buddha, and Lord Krishna did express the same three laws. But, alas, the Beast has placed its hands over our eyes so that we can not see, and over our ears so that we can not hear, the glory of the Kingdom of Heaven - not a place beyond the clouds, but the Divine essence which is the Ineffable Self within.

All three laws of God could just have easily been uttered by Jesus, Buddha, or Lord Krishna
the fact is that they did not do that. why do you feel the incessant need to bring these others into the deal? the followers of jesus delivered a holocaust upon black people. the followers of RUNA have not. i'm sorry that you can see no difference. this blindness means to me that maybe you do not understand the text as well as you think that you do. sure, you can memorize but i have yet to see any actual feeling. there are more levels than the cerebral.
i do not feel you at all.

the fact is that they did not do that. why do you feel the incessant need to bring these others into the deal? the followers of jesus delivered a holocaust upon black people. the followers of RUNA have not. i'm sorry that you can see no difference. this blindness means to me that maybe you do not understand the text as well as you think that you do. sure, you can memorize but i have yet to see any actual feeling. there are more levels than the cerebral.
i do not feel you at all.

I am feeling the truth and spirit of his words. What is the problem you're having with what this brother is saying???? Are you trying to discourage him from participating in ths thread too. He is directly sharing the experience he has had with reading RUNA's books. Which also matches the purpose of the thread. If you have a greater understanding why don't you share it.

the fact is that they did not do that. why do you feel the incessant need to bring these others into the deal? the followers of jesus delivered a holocaust upon black people. the followers of RUNA have not. i'm sorry that you can see no difference. this blindness means to me that maybe you do not understand the text as well as you think that you do. sure, you can memorize but i have yet to see any actual feeling. there are more levels than the cerebral.
i do not feel you at all.
I keep bringing "others" into the conversation because that is what the Metu Neter means to me. It means that there are no others, that there is only I --- the omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent I.

Within every cosmology, most of the followers only see the literal, exterior, of the cup and not the water inside the cup. Christianity's error has been more deadly to mankind because most of its adherents have aligned themselves with the culture currently at the top of the totem pole. But, that is about to change. Be concerned, be very concerned, over how the children of Kush will conduct themselves when Gog and Magog have been removed from their current position of preeminence. Do you really think that we black people are somehow immune to being corrupted, absolutely, by absolute power? Africa has a host of petty black dictators who have proven otherwise.

_Intuit_ for a moment that you are Set/Satan - not a man, not some red being with horns and cloven hooves, but the penultimate spirit of evil. :SuN003:

Now, as Set/Satan, your job -- the very reason Ptah/God manifest you into being --- is to make war against men such as Jesus and Buddha who come into this world teaching a system that seeks to end your existence. Sin is, after all, no more than focus on the ego [me, me,me] instead of focus on the One [Thou Art That. I Am God. Anuk Ausar]. Once a man realizes that Self is not ego, ego ceases to exist. From then on, sin/Set/Satan is banished into the bottomless pit.

Hence, Set/Satan must fight to keep that from happening. Set/Satan must go to and fro, like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour, confusing most of the adherents of _all_ religious systems about What Is Truth. It is just a simple matter of self-survival ... from Set/Satan's perspective.

Satan/Set/sin's existence is all part of the Divine Plan to bring man back to his senses, to the sense that Thou Art That, I AM God, Anuk Ausar.

Man is hard-headed. We are stubborn and slow to change. This is not a good, or bad, thing, This is just who we are, how we were made. Gods are not wimps, are not easily moved.

Ptah manifest Set/Satan for the express purpose of teaching man, through intense spiritual struggle, that Man is not the ego -- that man is not the vessel of flesh he identifies with. The only power the Beast has over men is threat to the ego --- to the peception that man is flesh. Set will continue to torment man until man, finally, accepts that he is not the flesh.

Set existed before there were white people. And, even if we could, somehow, "eliminate white people from the face of the planet", Set would still be on the J-O-B.

Dual systems, systems that allow man to continue to cling to the idea that he is flesh as well as spirit, leave the back door open and the porch light on to allow Set a way to worm back into our lives. This is not to say that dual systems do not have value. They do. That is, in fact, how I got to where I am now -- by starting out on Christian training wheels. But,

"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child. But, when I became a man, I put away childish things."
Now, as a man, instead of a child, I no longer seek to avoid circumstances of conflict, pain, and discomfort. Why hate your enemy when there is so much WISDOM AND POWER to be gained by loving him?

1:Law of Ausar
Your nature is an unconquerable peace, therefore nothing or no one else in the world can be against you. All experiences come to you to promote your reclamation of peace, that you may in turn, acquire wisdom and power.

I am feeling the truth and spirit of his words. What is the problem you're having with what this brother is saying???? Are you trying to discourage him from participating in ths thread too. He is directly sharing the experience he has had with reading RUNA's books. Which also matches the purpose of the thread. If you have a greater understanding why don't you share it.
i do not agree with the mixing of kamitic spirituality with jesus, budda, krishna and every other system that one can think of. IMO, that is wrong, false, hollow and phony. it is cerebral and shows to me a lack of feeling. it is not african. have you ever actually experienced ritual? has he? i wonder. in any case, most of you want to mix and match, cut and paste. you want to run it all together and in the process obliterate what the metu neter is.

i am the one in the minority and i will be the one to leave. i do not relate to the "smooth jazz", light weight, "everything is everything" version of the metu neter that you all promote.

i am out of here.

A lot of these laws have been articulated Jesus etc.

But that is only half of the issue. In the most of the churches they preach this information, but if you rely on reading, reflection, and discussion you have not truly applied the Law. This will reveal itself when real opportunities for spiritual growth come into your life.

All 11 have to be applied in order to get the full benefit. This understanding of wholeness is something that is missing from most dialogues, that you must have a picture of the whole (that's the Maat thing).

And the application of the Laws must go beyond reading.

The major failures in changing people's behavior and the source of much of the ongoing debate continues because the Laws have not been planted in your mind.

When the rent is due and you don't have it, the Law of Ausar is supposed to pop into your head instead of the stress that most of us feel.

If the Law doesn't come to you as an automatic reflect then it will not save you.



If you can't test the Law and prove it to yourself you will not have the conviction to hold onto that understanding of the Laws when the Sherriff hands you that eviction notice, when a hurricane destroys your city and no one comes to help, when you mate acts up, etc.

On another note, in another thread they asked if there were any room for warriors in the Metu Neter.

Remember, go back and read the Ausarian story where Heru defeated Set because he relied on Tehuti. Meaning, the Laws of God and the Word of God.
Yes he went to war but with wisdom. That is how Heru would know that political action or stockpiling guns is only half the answer to black folks problems. Another part of the answer in this capitalist system is the Trillions of dollars we have at our disposal in a country were money runs politics.

A lot of these laws have been articulated Jesus etc.

But that is only half of the issue. In the most of the churches they preach this information, but if you rely on reading, reflection, and discussion you have not truly applied the Law. This will reveal itself when real opportunities for spiritual growth come into your life.

All 11 have to be applied in order to get the full benefit. This understanding of wholeness is something that is missing from most dialogues, that you must have a picture of the whole (that's the Maat thing).

And the application of the Laws must go beyond reading.

The major failures in changing people's behavior and the source of much of the ongoing debate continues because the Laws have not been planted in your mind.

When the rent is due and you don't have it, the Law of Ausar is supposed to pop into your head instead of the stress that most of us feel.

If the Law doesn't come to you as an automatic reflect then it will not save you.



If you can't test the Law and prove it to yourself you will not have the conviction to hold onto that understanding of the Laws when the Sherriff hands you that eviction notice, when a hurricane destroys your city and no one comes to help, when you mate acts up, etc.

On another note, in another thread they asked if there were any room for warriors in the Metu Neter.

Remember, go back and read the Ausarian story where Heru defeated Set because he relied on Tehuti. Meaning, the Laws of God and the Word of God.
Yes he went to war but with wisdom. That is how Heru would know that political action or stockpiling guns is only half the answer to black folks problems. Another part of the answer in this capitalist system is the Trillions of dollars we have at our disposal in a country were money runs politics.

What stood out in the story to me is the change he made in his tactics to beat Set. Heru eventually matched Set in physical power at a certain point. But the fact that he just match Set on this level still put the situation as a whole in Set's favor. People in every society need structure. There are always a set of ppl who's job is to create and uphold a system for this structure to exist. Heru finally realized that by taking over the system was the way to defeat Set.

Once you take over the system it is yours to do as you will. Which is the importance of having the ppl in this system spiritually mature. Imagine if ppl in charge let their greed influence how they run this government.

I hope the word imagine stands out like sore thumb. Cause we're doing more than just imagining it we are living it.

i do not agree with the mixing of kamitic spirituality with jesus, budda, krishna and every other system that one can think of. IMO, that is wrong, false, hollow and phony. it is cerebral and shows to me a lack of feeling. it is not african. have you ever actually experienced ritual? has he? i wonder. in any case, most of you want to mix and match, cut and paste. you want to run it all together and in the process obliterate what the metu neter is.

i am the one in the minority and i will be the one to leave. i do not relate to the "smooth jazz", light weight, "everything is everything" version of the metu neter that you all promote.

i am out of here.

If all you know how to bring is negative energy to a thread, whose sole purpose was us folks sharing our experiences with RUNA's books, then I can appreciate your wise decision.

Thank you

Hotep


1:Law of Ausar
Your nature is an unconquerable peace, therefore nothing or no one else in the world can be against you. All experiences come to you to promote your reclamation of peace, that you may in turn, acquire wisdom and power.

...Another part of the answer in this capitalist system is the Trillions of dollars we have at our disposal in a country were money runs politics.
That is a astounding fact, isn't it -- how much capital black people have, collectively? We could, literally, end hunger, poverty, and homelessness within the black family within a year, without any help from anyone else.

We could finance our own businesses, effectively eliminating the effect of racism in the workplace. We could create our own alternate to Blackwater security forces to supplement the state's police forces who will NEVER protect us as white folks' Blackwater forces protected them during Katrina. And, we could generate profit while accomplishing all these wonderful tasks.

Why haven't we done all this? The answer can be found pictorially on page 8 of "MAAT - The 11 Laws of God", or on page 1 of Vol II of the Metu Neter. We possess the energy/matter [capital, skills, etc.] to do the work. But, we lack the wisdom [Sphere 2] to tap into the spiritual power [Sphere 3] necessary for Self to direct non-Self to act and to do.

Dual systems, systems that allow man to continue to cling to the idea that he is flesh as well as spirit, leave the back door open and the porch light on to allow Set a way to worm back into our lives.

Greetings

Just wanting to explore your understanding of Dual Systems alittle more, if you can expound. Is the presentation of the Paut Neteru or the expose of the 7 divisions of the spirit an example of a Dual System?

I ask because the purpose of the Khat/khab has its relevance (as well as Set) in facilitating the perpetual transformations. The flesh or physical body is an inextricable part of the Spirit.

There are alot of parallels in the stories of Jesus with the over all goal of spirituality but hidden in the packaging is a political statement that is difficult for some to excise. My take, on the readings of the Metu Neter, is this con-fusion was reconciled in the chapter on the Shepsu and their position in the curriculum of the initiate. With regards to the "As so above below" analogy, the sheps facilitate the social stratification and solidarity of the people (who are host for "The Coming Forth"). This is why "The Son of man" allusion was always coupled with "The Son of God" to show to show the importance/connection of the messenger as well as the context in which he/she is presented.

Considering scriptural analysis is predominately a 9th sphere activity(highlighted by the 8th sphere:em0800: ), I found christ' RED words are not enough fire to cook the proverbial food.

I appreciate your post.....keep it coming ...it's all educational dialogue...and this medium can only do what (form /functionally) it DO.:wink:

Greetings

Just wanting to explore your understanding of Dual Systems alittle more, if you can expound. Is the presentation of the Paut Neteru or the expose of the 7 divisions of the spirit an example of a Dual System?
Since the neters/spheres/gods of the Paut Neteru are not polytheist, but aspects of One Divine entity that pervades all that It manifests [per "The Book of Knowing the Manifestations of RA"], this is a monotheist, non-dual, system.

Similarly, while we do refer, by name, separately, to MenNefer, or Istlota, Destee, they are all aspects of the One God. This is the non-dual Law of Ausar, and is also articulated in the most non-dual red words in the the bible [St. John 17:21-23].

Tonight, you might dream, and in that dream, there might be multiple characters. But, all those dream people would be just thoughts in the one, non-dual, consciousness of MenNefer.

Similarly, MenNefer, and Istlota, and Destee are, in turn, all just thoughts in the one, non-dual, consciousness of Nebercher/God.

I ask because the purpose of the Khat/khab has its relevance (as well as Set) in facilitating the perpetual transformations. The flesh or physical body is an inextricable part of the Spirit.
All is vibration. The flesh is matter, matter is energy at a slow vibration, spirit is energy at a rapid vibration, and all energy/spirit manifests from One Source, which an African scientist, Gabriel A. Oyibo, calls GAGUT [God Almighty Grand Unified Theorem].

A dualist perceives that flesh is inextricable from the Spirit. A non-dualist perceives that flesh IS the Spirit unrecognized.

There are alot of parallels in the stories of Jesus with the over all goal of spirituality but hidden in the packaging is a political statement that is difficult for some to excise.
Yes, that is true, particularily since Hellenists have had such tight control over its contents for 1700 years. 1700 years from now, if homo sapiens are still around, confused folks will have done a similar number on RUNA's books. I am HIGHLY suspect of anything in the bible that contradicts the red words. Jesus never told slaves to obey their masters. Jesus never told women to keep silent in church. Jesus never taught that God chose some people and hated others.

Considering scriptural analysis is predominately a 9th sphere activity(highlighted by the 8th sphere:em0800: ), I found christ' RED words are not enough fire to cook the proverbial food.
Some people feel the same way about the Metu Neter. They just don't get it. I am the same way with the Quran. This doesn't mean that the Quran is devoid of Truth. It just means my spiritual tuning fork is currently resonating at a frequency closer to that of the bible, the Metu Neter, and the Bhagavad Gita than the Quran.

A dualist perceives that flesh is inextricable from the Spirit. A non-dualist perceives that flesh IS the Spirit unrecognized.

Yet "your person" felt the need (trapped in the realm of verbosity) to dichotomize when both examples can be articulated as being the same. (Not saying your answer is right or wrong but gets its constructive/destructive Value in relationship to the perciever)

(Soap box moment)
The Duality is fundamental, hidden from the "Dia"gnostic critique of the intellect and its mechanistic language of dissection. It always (when the duality rears its head) reminds me of the Architects quote in the movie The Matrix when he says : "Apropos as you have gathered the anomaly is systemic, creating *fluctuations* in the most simplistic equations."
(Hope Bro James don't get me for equating a part of the Matrix with The Metu Neter:shades: )
Inextricable means it cannot be extricated...WHAT cannot be extricated? The Khab or Flesh or physicality. But didn't I just set it aside (conceptually) in order to specify what particular division of the spirit I was alluding to? (Oneness and Division)

The non-dualist could inherently BE the oneness and yet, Analytically, (Herukhuti) present the oneness in an interdependency(Maat) of fragmented pieces for the observer whom relies on syntax just as well. Nebertcher stated : "Not had I found a place that I could stand therien" and before the ensuing process of differentiation took place Maat was established as a grounding to facilitate "what was/is to be" in the truth that even brought forth the Creator.
Also the non-dualist could be romanticizing oneness or monotheism without acknowledging the utility of the Neteru being presented as separated.

Interestingly, Division IS an illusion yet it APPEARS to have a purpose(Ie , the breakdown of the six acts in the Metu Neter and the 7 divisions of the spirit, references to Khepera,Ausar, Nebertcher,Heru etc). On the same note, our Unity has been referred to as being HIDDEN. The body is a Multicellular organism replete with functions that differ in capacity and degree and yet the overall presentation is ONE FUNCTION. One can appreciate the uniqueness of the individuated functions without becoming obsessively driven to define reality based on its appearance of being separated.

It can be Con-fusing (Thats exactly what it is) but gets right to the heart of what NETER is. (An indivisible Duality)

Unity is the Fulcrum of the Balance ( similar to Being in the world but not of it)

This is some of the things I think/thought about in reading and meditating on the *intangible dynamic* that the Book "Metu Neter" is alluding to.

{Nobody, tradition, sect, society, set of principles or exercises, or Authority has a copyright or monopoly on what Shekhem Ur Shekhems Book (or the original texts) *are alluding to* } These things or "African models of spritual cultivation" are provided to help us BE who we ARE.

The Duality is fundamental, hidden from the "Dia"gnostic critique of the intellect and its mechanistic language of dissection. It always (when the duality rears its head) reminds me of the Architects quote in the movie The Matrix when he says : "Apropos as you have gathered the anomaly is systemic, creating *fluctuations* in the most simplistic equations."
Do you also wonder, as I do, if the Matrix trilogy is really holy writ HIDDEN within the imperfections of Hollywood? There is just no way that the script was written by these two weirdos:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Wachowskis.jpg

I was so intrigued by this paradox that I even forked out $100 to buy one of the first copies of Sophia Stewart's book "The Third Eye". But, even that falls far short of The Matrix.

I am inclined to think that the One Most High used her as a vessel to bring the idea to the attention of Hollywood, and then used the Wachowskis as a Trojan Horse to sneak Truth inside the walls of Babylon.

The entire plot is verbatim from the biblical/neteru portrait of the End of Days:

The source of intuited wisdom to save Zion from destruction is a Black Woman [the Oracle, Sophia] -- literally a woman clothed in the sun [melanin, Revelations 12:1].
Sophia [Auset], the Oracle, leads Morpheus [Ausar] to Neo [Heru], the Messiah. Hollywood, of course, cast the Messiah as a White Guy,. But, even here, the One Most High snuck in the Truth by:

Having Neo wear all black.
In Neo's first scene, having someone knock on his door and say:


"Hallelujah! You're my Savior, man. My own personal Jesus Christ. I know. This never happened. You don't exist. Something wrong, man? You look a little whiter than usual."

The forces of evil [the Smiths], seeking to destroy humanity with ignorance/deception/lies/violence, are all white guys [Gog and Magog, Ezekial 38:2. Revelations 20:8].
Neo lost his eyes while fighting the Smiths, just as Heru lost his eye while fighting Set.
And, the Architect of the plot to "make war with the remnant of her seed" is an old white guy with gray hair, an antichrist standing in the Holy of Holies, appearing as an angel of light, whose last words are:

"What Do You Think I am, human?

The correct answer to this Question opens the door to heaven.

http://images.wikia.com/matrix/images/a/ab/Architect.gif
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Thor.jpg

What is this book or any of RUNA's books doing for you. I think the ppl are getting different uses and things out of his books. I don't think his books are for everybody or maybe everybody isn't in the right mind set to digest it. The book does make it clear to me that there are many paths to Ausar which is your highest spiritual level. The Metu Neter reveals more paths of 'inner truths' vs info which I must have blind faith to accept.

I'm hoping this can provide healthy dialog btwn those who do have a dilemma with the book or the author without anyone having to run and report to the moderators that someone is disturbing the peace. But all I ask is that we all be respectful to each other. Keeping in mind that we're family here. Also if there is something you don't understand about it, share it here and hopefully someone can reply back and clear up the matter.

Ive already named one of my short comings concerning the Metu Neter. It did explain and talk about meditation but it just isn't sinking in. It is doing an incredible job pealing off the layers of illusion I've been living and see other ppl living. Not only that but shaping the one reality we live in and making it my own. The importance msg of peace, happiness and staying positive is also very much the food for the soul I get from my readings. Above all I what I needed to know about God/True Self.

Oh I can't forget
I think it provides the tools needed for me to relate to what Men Nefer and Istlota expresses. lol two incredible wordsmiths.

I'm here to learn

Peace

htp (peace)

The Metu Neter Vol l-ll, and Tolm have allowed me to 'insperience' the duality of my being. I studied with the Ausar Auset Society in the early-mid 90s out of Oakland California.

My incarnation objective/ren was revealed.

A little over 10 years ago, I was in deep meditation using the Ma'at Mantra... went to a place where I 'insperienced' a vast rippling black body of water. It was surrounded by a pitch black limitless environment. Both were me. One part; the water, was connected to the mundane. It held my conditionings/wants/desires...it constantly pulled and craved. The limitless black part, was the observer. It had no emotion, it just was. Both parts were me.

I was able to gather that we are all the limitless part; observing the mundane (physical life).

One of the most powerful events in my life.

Thanks for directing to destee.com, hipphopolx!

htp (peace)

The Metu Neter Vol l-ll, and Tolm have allowed me to 'insperience' the duality of my being. I studied with the Ausar Auset Society in the early-mid 90s out of Oakland California.

My incarnation objective/ren was revealed.

A little over 10 years ago, I was in deep meditation using the Ma'at Mantra... went to a place where I 'insperienced' a vast rippling black body of water. It was surrounded by a pitch black limitless environment. Both were me. One part; the water, was connected to the mundane. It held my conditionings/wants/desires...it constantly pulled and craved. The limitless black part, was the observer. It had no emotion, it just was. Both parts were me.

I was able to gather that we are all the limitless part; observing the mundane (physical life).

One of the most powerful events in my life.

Thanks for directing to destee.com, hipphopolx!


Welcome Good breath-ren ...Ita em Khem kefaAb MenNefer....Looking forward to more of your inner-chi.

htp (peace)

The Metu Neter Vol l-ll, and Tolm have allowed me to 'insperience' the duality of my being. I studied with the Ausar Auset Society in the early-mid 90s out of Oakland California.

My incarnation objective/ren was revealed.

A little over 10 years ago, I was in deep meditation using the Ma'at Mantra... went to a place where I 'insperienced' a vast rippling black body of water. It was surrounded by a pitch black limitless environment. Both were me. One part; the water, was connected to the mundane. It held my conditionings/wants/desires...it constantly pulled and craved. The limitless black part, was the observer. It had no emotion, it just was. Both parts were me.


I was able to gather that we are all the limitless part; observing the mundane (physical life).

One of the most powerful events in my life.

Thanks for directing to destee.com, hipphopolx!

Glad to have you here and hopefully you'll let us know more about what this Neters concept of yours is about. I was an avid comic book reader for a while so I'm hoping the NETERS don't let me down. :)
Maybe you can give us a small taste in the small story section here
http://www.destee.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=35

... went to a place where I 'insperienced' a vast rippling black body of water. It was surrounded by a pitch black limitless environment. Both were me. One part; the water, was connected to the mundane. It held my conditionings/wants/desires...it constantly pulled and craved. The limitless black part, was the observer. It had no emotion, it just was. Both parts were me.

I was able to gather that we are all the limitless part; observing the mundane (physical life).
A vision of the Mystery of the One, the Divine Self: perceived as Duality: yet which is, being limitless, both the mundane and the observer: All of creation, in One.

SELF ==> perceived as DUALITY
DUALITY ==> MUNDANE + OBSERVER
MUNDANE ==> (wants, desires, conditionings)
OBSERVER ==> (limitless, beyond emotion, surrounds and observes Mundane) ==> ALL ==> SELF

http://home.earthlink.net/~istlota/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/nun-3.jpg

Roaring Waters of Nun (http://home.earthlink.net/~istlota/id17.html)

Glad to have you here and hopefully you'll let us know more about what this Neters concept of yours is about. I was an avid comic book reader for a while so I'm hoping the NETERS don't let me down. :)
Maybe you can give us a small taste in the small story section here
http://www.destee.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=35

htp (peace)

Hit the link. You can checkout the online joint that started the whole NETERS series.

A vision of the Mystery of the One, the Divine Self: perceived as Duality: yet which is, being limitless, both the mundane and the observer: All of creation, in One.

SELF ==> perceived as DUALITY
DUALITY ==> MUNDANE + OBSERVER
MUNDANE ==> (wants, desires, conditionings)
OBSERVER ==> (limitless, beyond emotion, surrounds and observes Mundane) ==> ALL ==> SELF

http://home.earthlink.net/~istlota/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/nun-3.jpg

Roaring Waters of Nun (http://home.earthlink.net/~istlota/id17.html)

This is powerful... takes me back to that day when I knew; even for only and instant, that there is more to this reality domain we call the world.

Powerful, powerful pic and words.

Thank you.

Here is some more from Ra Un Nefer

http://http://totalblacktv.com/home/images/470.jpg
http://totalblacktv.com/home/product_info.php?products_id=490

Enjoy

Here is some more from Ra Un Nefer

http://http://totalblacktv.com/home/images/470.jpg
http://totalblacktv.com/home/product_info.php?products_id=490

Enjoy

Thanks for Sharing Brother Hiphopolx!

I DID enjoy listening to him and....I was challenged in overstanding the whole planetary alignment stuff:qqb013:

I did hear him speak when he came through here a few weeks ago. I was not very "impressed" with that presentation.
It was colored by the behaviors of some of the "followers" who are active members in study and process of initiation.

I plan to continue to focus on the MESSAGE and not the 'messengers'. I plan to continue to overstand the primary message of the Metu Neter which in essence, I'm getting is...

To overstand nature or makeup of our Spirit and recognize the dieties directing, influencing, informing our behaviors while in this physical house.

When he, RUNA, spoke here, his focus was on emphasizing our RELATIONSHIP with God/Spirit, and the importance of recognizing and nurturing that relationship while on earth. At least, that was the gist of what I heard.

Anywho...Thanks again for Sharing this...I LOVE learning!:wave:

M.E.
:hearts2:

Hetepu,

I just came across this thread and just wanted to first say thank you to Brother hiphopolx for having posted this. The cultivation and awakening of one’s God consciousness is quite seriously deep! Personally, I’ve only been studying the Medu Neter quite recently coming from a sufi muslim background. I am studying vol.1, as well as the Maat 11 laws though I do have vol.2 and the TOLMS. I have been attending classes now for the past 4 weeks at the AAS here in the UKKK which has aided me immensely in my understanding. From reading the posts on this thread thus far, I know they will also aid in my learning and understanding. This thread is definitely needed.

Although I haven’t been studying the Medu Neter very long, I have been applying the little knowledge that I have learnt thus far such as breathing techniques, the Qi-Gong exercises, as well as correct diet which allows me the experience of a more energised self and an ability to maintain a state of inner peace. Friends and family have expressed that they have noticed positive changes in my person. DISCIPLINE and CONSISTENCY though is the key! With my eyes now opened a little wider I understand that we have direct access to divine knowledge and the power to instruct and program our behaviour to bring about transformations in the self and in our lives through working on aspects of our consciousness (haven’t learnt how to master these techniques yet) as opposed to relinquishing one’s power and control to some external entity through prayer.

A lot more control of my emotions is being experienced as well as more self-examination of where I am functioning from in terms of my ego and growing into my Divine Nature. I find that it is not enough to just read and have the knowledge but it has to be applied in order for it to be effective and yield transformations. It is quick to forget the laws when not applied such as 1:The Law of Ausar - "Your nature is an unconquerable peace, therefore nothing or no one in the world can be against you. All experiences come to you to promote your reclamation of peace, that you may in turn, acquire wisdom and power." Am I correct in saying then that when you find yourself experiencing that someone or something is against you and you act or respond in a manner that goes against your nature (peace), you are violating the divine laws of Ausar or all the deities as a whole?

I’m slowly working on comprehending each deity and their functions. Some of the post here are extremely helpful for me on that. The divine laws I know are not the end product but the means to the fundamental principles of knowing that God and Man/Woman is one.

Well, I just wanted to share the little experiences I’ve had thus far since being guided into the knowledge of the Medu Neter.
Peace, Love, Light…
Hetepu!

Thanks for Sharing Brother Hiphopolx!

I DID enjoy listening to him and....I was challenged in overstanding the whole planetary alignment stuff:qqb013:

I did hear him speak when he came through here a few weeks ago. I was not very "impressed" with that presentation.
It was colored by the behaviors of some of the "followers" who are active members in study and process of initiation.

I plan to continue to focus on the MESSAGE and not the 'messengers'. I plan to continue to overstand the primary message of the Metu Neter which in essence, I'm getting is...

To overstand nature or makeup of our Spirit and recognize the dieties directing, influencing, informing our behaviors while in this physical house.

When he, RUNA, spoke here, his focus was on emphasizing our RELATIONSHIP with God/Spirit, and the importance of recognizing and nurturing that relationship while on earth. At least, that was the gist of what I heard.

Anywho...Thanks again for Sharing this...I LOVE learning!:wave:

M.E.
:hearts2:


We are on the same page regarding your analysis between the message and the messenger. It's always good to read your words. And to know I'm not the only one taking on the challenge of knowing thyself/God
:wave:

Hetepu,

I just came across this thread and just wanted to first say thank you to Brother hiphopolx for having posted this. The cultivation and awakening of one’s God consciousness is quite seriously deep! Personally, I’ve only been studying the Medu Neter quite recently coming from a sufi muslim background. I am studying vol.1, as well as the Maat 11 laws though I do have vol.2 and the TOLMS. I have been attending classes now for the past 4 weeks at the AAS here in the UKKK which has aided me immensely in my understanding. From reading the posts on this thread thus far, I know they will also aid in my learning and understanding. This thread is definitely needed.

Although I haven’t been studying the Medu Neter very long, I have been applying the little knowledge that I have learnt thus far such as breathing techniques, the Qi-Gong exercises, as well as correct diet which allows me the experience of a more energised self and an ability to maintain a state of inner peace. Friends and family have expressed that they have noticed positive changes in my person. DISCIPLINE and CONSISTENCY though is the key! With my eyes now opened a little wider I understand that we have direct access to divine knowledge and the power to instruct and program our behaviour to bring about transformations in the self and in our lives through working on aspects of our consciousness (haven’t learnt how to master these techniques yet) as opposed to relinquishing one’s power and control to some external entity through prayer.

A lot more control of my emotions is being experienced as well as more self-examination of where I am functioning from in terms of my ego and growing into my Divine Nature. I find that it is not enough to just read and have the knowledge but it has to be applied in order for it to be effective and yield transformations. It is quick to forget the laws when not applied such as 1:The Law of Ausar - "Your nature is an unconquerable peace, therefore nothing or no one in the world can be against you. All experiences come to you to promote your reclamation of peace, that you may in turn, acquire wisdom and power." Am I correct in saying then that when you find yourself experiencing that someone or something is against you and you act or respond in a manner that goes against your nature (peace), you are violating the divine laws of Ausar or all the deities as a whole?

I’m slowly working on comprehending each deity and their functions. Some of the post here are extremely helpful for me on that. The divine laws I know are not the end product but the means to the fundamental principles of knowing that God and Man/Woman is one.

Well, I just wanted to share the little experiences I’ve had thus far since being guided into the knowledge of the Medu Neter.
Peace, Love, Light…
Hetepu!

Thank you for sharing your experience here. Conversing with the avid readers here @ Destee has been a big help for me in trying to understand more of what was being conveyed in Ra Un Nefer's books. It's funny because I thought I was pretty far ahead in my understanding until hearing some of these heads here. Now I'm back in the books again. I enjoy the learning experience. So I'm looking ahead fo more ppl to come forward to share their experience as well.
By the way that was powerful statement you had mentioned from his book primarily dealing with 'Maat'
1:The Law of Ausar - "Your nature is an unconquerable peace, therefore nothing or no one in the world can be against you. Realizing the weight of these these words and using it as a guide is very eye opening. I might start a thread dealing with that very subject. I'll have to think of a smooth way to start it off with.

It's always good to read your words.

Yours as Well!!!!:grouphug:


M.E.
:hearts2:

the first law and the second law


Amen

You were made in the likeness of a peace that nothing can disturb.

Reclaim your peace that you may attain to your reason for coming into existence:

The enjoyment of life.


Ausar

Your nature is an unconquerable peace, therefore nothing or no one can be against you.

All experiences come to you to promote your reclamation of peace, that you may, in turn, acquire wisdom and power.

:SuN020:

Thank you for sharing your experience here. Conversing with the avid readers here @ Destee has been a big help for me in trying to understand more of what was being conveyed in Ra Un Nefer's books. It's funny because I thought I was pretty far ahead in my understanding until hearing some of these heads here. Now I'm back in the books again. I enjoy the learning experience. So I'm looking ahead fo more ppl to come forward to share their experience as well.
By the way that was powerful statement you had mentioned from his book primarily dealing with 'Maat'
1:The Law of Ausar - "Your nature is an unconquerable peace, therefore nothing or no one in the world can be against you. Realizing the weight of these these words and using it as a guide is very eye opening. I might start a thread dealing with that very subject. I'll have to think of a smooth way to start it off with.


Ur welcome!

If u are thinking of doing a separate thread for this particular law, are u also thinking of doing a separate thread for all the 11 Laws?? Anyway, while I'm on this right now I have been pondering on the Law of Ausar quite a bit.

OK, the law states NOTHING IS AGAINST YOU. Can the following apply:

1. u have the power to influence a situation?

2. a lot of what happens to u is what u set in motion?

3. not to look at what someone does or says but to look at WHY u REACT the way u do?

4. from lack of self-knowledge and insight u get what u deserve not what u desire? (e.g. one may not speak up at work when assignments are being given out. The person desires a good assignment but ends up with the least attractive assignment for not speaking up and thinks the boss doesn't like him/her much so in effect they got what they deserved.)

5. u prevent the wisdom and power of your natural gifts from coming to your assistance?

6. everything is an opportunity to nourish your divinity no matter what someone else is doing?

7. everything happens as it should (perfectly)?

8. being in unity thus seeing all with the eye of the One?

9. we reap what we sow?

Peace, Love, Light...
1UL

the first law and the second law


Amen

You were made in the likeness of a peace that nothing can disturb.

Reclaim your peace that you may attain to your reason for coming into existence:

The enjoyment of life.


Ausar

Your nature is an unconquerable peace, therefore nothing or no one can be against you.

All experiences come to you to promote your reclamation of peace, that you may, in turn, acquire wisdom and power.

:SuN020:



OOPS!! My mistake. Thank you for the correction.

Peace, Love, Light...
1UL

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