hiphopolx
01-02-2008, 02:16 AM
Can anyone here give advise about meditation?
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meditationhiphopolx 01-02-2008, 02:16 AM Can anyone here give advise about meditation? jamesfrmphilly 01-02-2008, 12:43 PM get a copy of the metu neter and read it. there is also other information around that would be more general. omowalejabali 01-02-2008, 01:31 PM Can anyone here give advise about meditation? http://www.egyptianyoga.com/page12.htm istlota 01-02-2008, 02:36 PM Can anyone here give advise about meditation? There is the Divine Self, and then there is the lower-case 's' self. The self is associated with the physical body, the lower case 'm' mind, and the five senses. The Divine Self is not of this world. Ancient sages intuited meditation as a vehicle to be used to travel from the phenomenal realm of body/mind/senses to the noumenal realm of the Divine Self. We are programmed by this world's system, from birth, to associate our being with the body/mind/senses. All meditation techniques, if they have value, attempt to still the input from your body/mind/senses which serve to distract you from knowledge of the Divine Self. The best way to learn meditation is to be taught by a Self-realized teacher. If/when the student's ears are ready to hear, the teacher will appear. MenNefer 01-02-2008, 03:38 PM Can anyone here give advise about meditation? 1) The whole breathing system is a vibrating organism. With this in mind (as Istlota states) it is good to have someone assist (Ari Sa Aungk). It is also good to use aids that will assist you with bridging the emphasis away from left brained dominated thinking. 2) Awakening the Healing Light is a good book by Mantak Chia and of course Muaty Ashby's Egyptian Yoga. 3) Manipulation of breath and refined vitality (observance of the cycles of Ra) can instigate different levels of awareness as observed in the wave states the brain goes into: Theta , Beta , Alpha, Delta etc. 4)I follow the exercises given in Metu Neter (There are an assortment options of course ...I mean nothing finite is absolute or essentially genuine) 5) The colors .The sitting direction..the smells... the hekau.. and my contemplations before hand, to set up my objectives, and real time observances during the day all prove to be tenderizing my person up for the Coming Forth;) hiphopolx 01-02-2008, 05:38 PM get a copy of the metu neter and read it. there is also other information around that would be more general. Thanks for your response. I have bought this book (about 4 times, it's been stolen, loaned out, and one time just fell apart to the point where I just bought another one). It was RUNA's books that have taught me the importance of meditation. I don't feel I'm getting what I should be getting out of the meditations. hiphopolx 01-02-2008, 05:40 PM http://www.egyptianyoga.com/page12.htm Thanks for your response I think I might make an online purchase of his book tonight. I hope all is going well for you. hiphopolx 01-02-2008, 06:06 PM There is the Divine Self, and then there is the lower-case 's' self. The self is associated with the physical body, the lower case 'm' mind, and the five senses. The Divine Self is not of this world. Ancient sages intuited meditation as a vehicle to be used to travel from the phenomenal realm of body/mind/senses to the noumenal realm of the Divine Self. We are programmed by this world's system, from birth, to associate our being with the body/mind/senses. All meditation techniques, if they have value, attempt to still the input from your body/mind/senses which serve to distract you from knowledge of the Divine Self. The best way to learn meditation is to be taught by a Self-realized teacher. If/when the student's ears are ready to hear, the teacher will appear. Well I've been waitin. I truly understand what you're saying though. I hope you stick around you have a way with words I think a lot of folks here can/ benefit from. NOT JUST THE MESSAGE BUT HOW THE MESSAGE IS SAID. Plus this site is better than that other site you electronically hang around :geek: Just kidding :) not really :( jamesfrmphilly 01-02-2008, 06:17 PM I don't feel I'm getting what I should be getting out of the meditations. i have decided to focus better and clear my schedule a little. i often have so much going on that i short cut the meditation. i am going to stop doing that. hiphopolx 01-02-2008, 06:31 PM 1) The whole breathing system is a vibrating organism. With this in mind (as Istlota states) it is good to have someone assist (Ari Sa Aungk). It is also good to use aids that will assist you with bridging the emphasis away from left brained dominated thinking. 2) Awakening the Healing Light is a good book by Mantak Chia and of course Muaty Ashby's Egyptian Yoga. 3) Manipulation of breath and refined vitality (observance of the cycles of Ra) can instigate different levels of awareness as observed in the wave states the brain goes into: Theta , Beta , Alpha, Delta etc. 4)I follow the exercises given in Metu Neter (There are an assortment options of course ...I mean nothing finite is absolute or essentially genuine) 5) The colors .The sitting direction..the smells... the hekau.. and my contemplations before hand, to set up my objectives, and real time observances during the day all prove to be tenderizing my person up for the Coming Forth;) Thanks for your response and the continued priceless wisdom you drop here. I actually bought a couple of his cassette tapes (note; i said 'cassette tape' it was a long ago :( I followed the instructions. I concentrated on my breathing but I feel when I do that, I'm not breathing right at all. The meditation I believe I do get, is usually when I awake and I'm at a real relaxed state. I often have received revelations in this state. And the whole thing is pretty much involuntary. omowalejabali 01-02-2008, 06:31 PM Thanks for your response I think I might make an online purchase of his book tonight. I hope all is going well for you. Thanks for the props. Im struggling as always but things will get better. I am the "victim" of my own decisions and some have been unwise, others i have no control over as situations dictate. I have the book I recommended but have not really gotten into it like I want and I've had it for over a year. Like I mentioned elsewhere meditation has not really helped me since moving from los angeles two years ago because of my angst trying to deal with an unstable job/career situation. I do find time--here and there---but qualitative meditation does require a dedication to make it a regular part of your daily routine. I had an auto accident a few months ago and go to therapy 2 or 3 times a week. I get extensive massage therapy and it sufficiently relaxes me for up to two days. Perhaps acupunture or accupressure combined with meditation may be of benefit, or a course on the practice of reiki healing. This is a hands-on approach that does not really involve reading and engaging it ritual. Meditation or any other practice should be therapeutive and lead to healing. Note: I have engaged in chakra meditation and practicing some of the exercises the Medu Neter outlines. Some of these worked. But a gifted therapist can FEEL what centers you have that are blocked and which need healing. Yoga, tai-chi, qi-gong all are good practices to aid in the art of healing. hiphopolx 01-04-2008, 09:05 AM What are the goals and benefits of meditation? If compared to exercise, and keeping in mind different exercises will have give you different results, would a schedule of on going meditation strengthen an individual's mind, spirit or both? :thinking: hiphopolx 01-04-2008, 10:48 AM If it's purpose is to distill knowledge from our divine self as bro. Istlota stated, do we do this with concerns, guidence, or yearning questions we need answered? Or maybe to check to see if there is message waiting for us 'sort to speak'? omowalejabali 01-04-2008, 11:07 AM What are the goals and benefits of meditation? If compared to exercise, and keeping in mind different exercises will have give you different results, would a schedule of on going meditation strengthen an individual's mind, spirit or both? :thinking: This is why I suggested combining editation with yoga, tai chi, etc. Even finding a good masseuse. All of these thing combined help to open up your "centers" and help to eliminate toxis and parasites within. Even walking while listening to your favorite music can help. Since you created this thread I went and dug up some books in storage, one which I recommended. There are other books dealing with yogic practice but Ashby's book is rather extensive with its various references to related topics and illustrating how Egyptian Yoga is related to other systems. I find this useful when the pictures help me to see some things tht I have not noticed before when looking at some of the ancient hieroglyps and artifact. Myself, Im gonna make an effort to establish an on-going, regular schedule to not only meditate, but also doing more walking since I now am living near a park. Im also going to start detoxing again. This worked for me before but I got off my program for a number of reasons. Peace my brother. omowalejabali 01-04-2008, 11:15 AM If it's purpose is to distill knowledge from our divine self as bro. Istlota stated, do we do this with concerns, guidence, or yearning questions we need answered? Or maybe to check to see if there is message waiting for us 'sort to speak'? Im not going to dismiss the advice of others who suggest seeking a spiritual advisor, teacher, guide, etc. However, something I read in Ashby's book reminded me of something. "As he states, Developing the power of INTUITION is essential on the spiritual path. This is the only way to become ONE with GOD. INTUITION is PERFECTION while the thinking mind is related to the egotistical vision of one's self as an individual." I suggest you "meditate" on this and SEE what it means to YOU. Your Divine Inner Self, the Power within YOU will reveal what this means to YOU without guidance and without external intervention. hiphopolx 01-15-2008, 01:38 AM This is why I suggested combining editation with yoga, tai chi, etc. Even finding a good masseuse. All of these thing combined help to open up your "centers" and help to eliminate toxis and parasites within. Even walking while listening to your favorite music can help. Since you created this thread I went and dug up some books in storage, one which I recommended. There are other books dealing with yogic practice but Ashby's book is rather extensive with its various references to related topics and illustrating how Egyptian Yoga is related to other systems. I find this useful when the pictures help me to see some things tht I have not noticed before when looking at some of the ancient hieroglyps and artifact. Myself, Im gonna make an effort to establish an on-going, regular schedule to not only meditate, but also doing more walking since I now am living near a park. Im also going to start detoxing again. This worked for me before but I got off my program for a number of reasons. Peace my brother. Hey Bro. Omo I just got the book today(Egyptian Yoga) so I WILL be hitting you up as I go along thru the book. :book: :10200: Hotep |
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