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Metaverse 12-26-2007, 02:30 AM Mathemagic is the combination of two very important concepts that deal with dreams, reality and how the conscious and subconscious mind creates a separation between the two. Naturally, without this separation we would go insane, or appear insane. Math is the ruler of reality, as it is the process by which we measure and understand our place within it. Math is also the founder of our reason and logic, both useful sources in our approach to rationalizing the real world.
Magic, on the other hand- is the process the dream or spirit world uses to manifest itself on the layer of reality. All Magic is flawed without the assistance of the imagination and the intuition that guides it. Magic is precisely what the dream world hopes to inspire. MATHEMAGIC is the performance of the mind itself- faced with realities of both the rational and the dream world.
As much as we might be skeptical about real magic as far as how it works or does not work in reality- we should also be skeptical about Math, and we must also wonder of it's working in the spirit world or hereafter. Without the presence of Time does Math exist? How do you measure something that is constantly shifting in and out of space? The point here might be that Math and Magic are not that different at all, but it is the environment of our minds that make them so.
We can say also that Men are Mathematical, and Women are Magical. This is not to say that Women can't count, or that Men can't enchant. This is only to suggest basic behavior and patterns in both sexes. Is being Mathematical or Magical really that different? It all depends of the direction of our intent. We are speaking about the founding Mother and Father of Art and Science- both are contained in Math and Magic. Without Artists and Scientists there is no world at all to speak of.
The Dream Lab is the place where you think your thoughts, preach your prayers, visualize and imagine your fantasies and desires. The Dream Lab is within us and all around us as well. Mathemagic, helps us to understand how our Dream Lab works. This is done simply through story telling, allowing the mind to visualize and imagine, and allowing the mind to play out it's own scenario.
The Mathemagical equation uses the power of story telling to stimulate an awake dream mode. Indulge yourself in the story, and visualize what your answer will be.
MATHEMAGICAL EQUATION: THE DEAD FISH
A very close friend of yours invites you on a fishing trip on the weekend. (Visualize this friend) You will be on the boat with 2 other people who you do not know, nor have never seen. This friend asks you to bring $200 just in case it rains and everyone may have to retire to nearby port and Hotel. You agree, it sounds like fun. You make all your necessary preparations for the trip. The weekend comes, you're on the boat with your friend and 2 other people. (Visualize who these people might be or look like.) Notice how they are acting on the boat.
It seems you are the only one who is interested in fishing, everyone else is laughing, talking, drinking and having a merry old time. Suddenly it starts to rain, and the Boat's captain decides to find the nearest port to dock. Everyone gets out in the rain, luckily there is a Hotel nearby. When you get into the Lobby, you are looking through you personals and the $200 you brought for the trip is gone. You wonder, did you drop it on the boat?
You remember that you overheard one of the others saying they had found $200, but when you ask them about it- they deny it. Your friend is angry with you for accusing them of stealing. But someone offers for you to stay with them in their room. You decide it might be a better idea to go back to the boat and search for your money.
So you go back outside in the pouring down rain, back to the dock and on the boat. When you stepped into the boat, you noticed a big giant fish laying next to your bait and fishing rod. It looks as if the fish jumped into the boat by accident and died. You ignore it for a moment and you start looking around the areas where you were standing or sitting trying to find your money. There is no sight of it anywhere.
Maybe it's under the dead fish? You think to yourself, a strange thought- but possible. You lift up the fish to look, and a giant diamond falls out of it's mouth. (Visualize the giant diamond in your hand as you stand in the rain). This has to be a miracle. It's the biggest diamond you have ever seen in your life. For several moments you stare at it, not at all bothered by the heavy rain and thunder.
Suddenly from a distance you hear your friend calling your name. You were in a trance, you look up and your friends and others are on the dock screaming at you- the boat has somehow drifted off to sea. The boat's Captain has the keys, there is no way to turn the boat around. Your best bet is to swim for it, but you look into the water and it seems like a Shark is swimming right below the boat. Your only hope is for the coast guard to show up, or a rescue boat. It's doesn't matter, you're rich now.
BOOM! You hear a loud explosion that came from the bottom of the boat, a small hole breaks open at the rear. The boat is sinking.
You are screaming for help, but you are way off into sea in heavy rain and your voice is drowned out by the waves and loud thunder.
What happens next is up to your own Dream Lab- the same place where this story is taking place in your mind. Naturally, you want the diamond don't you? You want a nice happy ending. You want to survive. But is that based on Math or Magic, or perhaps both? Math- decides what adds up in the story. Magic- decides what appears and disappears in the story. The money disappearing, The dead fish, the diamond, the boat drifting off- all are elements of Magic.
Seneb 12-26-2007, 09:57 PM A very close friend of yours invites you on a fishing trip on the weekend. (Visualize this friend) You will be on the boat with 2 other people who you do not know, nor have never seen. This friend asks you to bring $200 just in case it rains and everyone may have to retire to nearby port and Hotel. You agree, it sounds like fun. You make all your necessary preparations for the trip. The weekend comes, you're on the boat with your friend and 2 other people. (Visualize who these people might be or look like.) Notice how they are acting on the boat.
I can see now,that it's not that easy to visualize....lol
What happens next is up to your own Dream Lab- the same place where this story is taking place in your mind. Naturally, you want the diamond don't you? You want a nice happy ending. You want to survive. But is that based on Math or Magic, or perhaps both? Math- decides what adds up in the story. Magic- decides what appears and disappears in the story. The money disappearing, The dead fish, the diamond, the boat drifting off- all are elements of Magic.
it's funny....when i was a child,i used to make dream about falling off a building,and when i shall to hit the ground,i was waking up suddenly...In fact i always wake up,when im in bad situations in my dream and it's even the case when the dream is interessting.For example,a girl was about to tell me something, according to her i did bad things to her.I wanted to know and i was excited,but when she was about to tell me.....the dream ended!What is more funny is when a dream interest me,my alarm clock or something else break this fantasy world,to put me back in this cold,and not funny world.Until recently i thought it was coincidences but.....:whip:
Metaverse 12-27-2007, 11:53 AM Greetings Seneb!
The power of visualization is always at use. Our job is to become more conscious of how we use it. Which is what the "Dream Lab" is all about. If you understand how your Lab works, you might also be able to understand why certain things do not catch your attention and why certain things do. From there, we can make several different determinations.
The Dream world is always used to further your knowledge about self.
For those interested in harnessing the full potential of visualization:
http://www.iloveulove.com/images/1577312295.jpg
This book will help you.
MATHEMAGICAL EQUATION: THE DEAD FISH - Uncovered
How this story plays out depends on who you are, and what you hold as important in your life. For example, if you are well to do, with a great deal of money- the diamond may not be of any great concern. However, even the richest Men and Women would kill for a diamond like that one.
How about your friend on the boat and the strangers? This story also brings out how we feel about our friends, as well as new people who enter our lives.
The Mind is a great computer and calculator. The Mathematical mind when reading the story will start putting 2 and 2 together. Again, it depends on what kind of person you are. Perhaps you suspected the new people stole your $200? Perhaps it was the mysterious Boat Captain who was barely mentioned at all. And if you've never been fishing in your life, the whole story is suspect isn't it? Because your Mathematical mind is asking- why would I go fishing with these people, when I don't even like fishing?
Well, this is why most stories need a hint of magic. Not just stories, but life in general. How balanced are our lives with Math and Magic? Does one over power the other?
Making money to pay bills. That is Math. Making money but can't pay your bills. That is Magic. Where is the money going? How does it disappear so fast?
These things can happen, if our Minds are too enchanted by things that distract us. The powers of concentration, visualization and meditation, are the perhaps the most powerful triad any person can have. And without these, we are in many ways slaves to our Dream worlds, whether it be this reality, or the reality within us- and not Masters of them.
Are we adults who still sit around day-dreaming about finding a suitcase full of money? Or winning the lottery? Or perhaps a religious Avatar appearing in the clouds coming to save us from our selves? The we are overburdened by a world of Magic. This is what the diamond in the story represents. Because suddenly everything is going to be OK- even if the boat is sinking and a shark is waiting to devour us.
Heaven and Hell are created in our Dream Lab. How we use our Mathematical and Magical minds, can make a serious difference between suffering and bliss.
What was the explosion under the boat? Again- it is magic. When things "suddenly" happen in the story. All we can say is, why do these things keep happening to me? Well- for one, because we expect them too.
MATHEMAGICAL EQUATION: THE DEAD FISH - Continued
You are screaming your eyes out, hoping for someone to hear you, but your faith is obvious. You see all the water pouring up into the boat from the small hole at the rear, and it was only then that it dawned on you.
Why don't I stick the diamond in the hole?
You run to the hole quickly and you force the diamond into it, it's a perfect fit! Oh thank God-You think to yourself. The heavy rains slowly begins to let up. Your mind feels more free to think about your situation. The boat isn't sinking anymore, but it's still drifting off to sea. Isn't there a 2- way radio on most fishing boats? You look around near the wheel and you find one.
You use the radio to call out to the local coast guard and nearby ships.
The coast guard shows up in a helicopter. A Man jumps down in the boat tied to a rope and wants to bring you up with him. Wait. What about the diamond! You try to pry it out but it won't come out. "We have to go!!" The Coastal Officer yells. "Let's go! What are you doing!" You decide to leave it alone. The Coast guard flies you back to their land base and notifies your friend at the Hotel about your safe return.
Your friend and others show up a few hours later to take you back. Your friend tells that they were yelling for you on the dock because you dropped the $200 dollars in the Hotel lobby and someone returned it to the front desk.
But you're not concerned with all that, you are still thinking about the diamond. You explain to your friend that the boat is still out in the sea drifting. Your friend looks at you with a shocked face.
"Well, when we saw you leaving the dock, we thought you knew the Captain was on the boat, in fact we thought he was the one pulling off, maybe taking you out to sea where we were fishing to see if your money was floating in the water somewhere. He's practically homeless, all he has is that boat. He gets drunk and sleeps in some tiny quarters below it."
What?? So this means the Captain was still on the boat, downstairs drunk and fast asleep! You tell your friend about the explosion and how the boat was going to sink so you found a way to block up the hole and that you needed to go back and save the Captain.
One of the Coastal Officers overhears the story and says that they noticed the boat made it was back to the docks, and then it drifted back into the waters again and sunk.
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You escaped with your life. But the Homeless Captain will be a rich person instead of you. Is that fair? Yes, if you know your life is worth more than a diamond no matter how big it is.
Math- is the part of the story where you figured out you could place the diamond into the hole to stop the water from coming through.
Math- is also figuring out, there has to be some kind of communication device on this boat, so you can call and get help.
Metaverse 12-29-2007, 02:30 AM Dreams do not follow the same laws of reality that we have grown accustomed too. Because dreams, while based on reality at times are not based in reality. They take place within the kingdom of our minds and souls, the realm of the imagination and spirit.
But the dream world is also a virtual paradise. We can experience many worlds and people in our dreams, we can learn from many situations without having to act them out in real life.
This is a power that is greatly overlooked.
Logic vs. Intuition
When most females first meets a potential mate, for a few moments maybe not right away- she takes the time to "dream" to meditate on this new Man. She looks at his facial expressions, his walk- the way he reacts to certain words and how he expresses his thoughts. She gets enough of his data, his voice, his 3-d view and downloads him into her mind. From there, she can do what she wants with him. She can play out scenes in her mind and figure out what type of Man he will be for her. Is he marriage material? How will the children look? While most of this is based purely in fantasy and "living happily ever after"- without this sort of magic, many of us wouldn't be here.
It is the intuitive power of our Mothers that has helped to place us into the world, not to mention hours of tremendous pushing. She nurtures and gives birth to dreams, all of which becomes composed within us.
When some Men go out on a date with a potential mate, they are also paying close attention. If she continues to pile food on her plate and keeps on ordering wine, logic tells the Man he will have to pay for all of that. She might be too high maintenance or just right. He's busy putting two and two together. If she answers her cell phone and starts arguing with an ex. Boyfriend who keeps on calling her during the night. This adds up as well.
Yet most Men choose a mate that fits into their equation, even when it's for sex.
Men choose mates they can afford, and some Men can only afford to date for sex and nothing more. "Afford" doesn' always refer to money. Afford- can be applied to anything this Man has to direct his attention to, and his logic.
A Man is a lair if it is logical for him to be one. He is a deceiver or a playa - if it is logical for him to be one. He will only do what "makes sense to him." If a Man has gotten what he wants out of life from lying and deceiving so far, then is it only logical that such behavior will continue. It doesn't matter how many holes it has, if the underwear still functions as "under wear" then a Man will keep it.
We owe our very lives to this pattern of thought as well. Most of the best providers and protectors are stubborn logic driven Men who respect their Women but are more loyal to nature. Just as our Mother nurturer usually have a profound union with the cosmos and designer clothing.
Men and Women who have mastered the Dream Lab, can visualize their potential reality first, without manifesting it. This is the very reason for science and art. In truth in the beginning when an Artist drew, painted or sculpted something, it would act only as a model for something bigger, better and more real. When a Scientist produced experiments it was to find not only a theory but laws in nature that could be translated to other situations.
Men and Women, while apart and opposite from one another, are only legs that are connected to the same table. Just as logic and intuition are processes that exist in the same brain. And this also relates to Mathemagic and how it frames how we interact and compute the real and dream world.
That "same table" is spirit, the Ka and Ba of our being. The outer astral layer of our reality, as well as the inner nucleus of who we are. In Mathemagic, we find some of the same principles of the Ka-BBa - Lah.
Both these energies must be fed equally. Just as a Man and Woman in a relationship must be fed equally.
So many have said that we have lost of place in and with nature, but how do we regain that place? Many have also said, we have lost our minds, well how do we regain that mind? It could only be through the finding of balance and reciprocity between Man and Woman, nature and the cosmos.
The Man must be returned to his kingdom of knowledge which is Math- the language of the Universe and reality. The Woman must be returned to her kingdom of knowledge which is Magic - the language of spirit. Both have been stripped of their kingdom. Because every Woman in many ways is a daugther of magic, and the magical spiritual Mothers of art and science that ruled the known world for thousands of years. If Men are afraid to give Women back her Church, which is the temple of her body- then the earth will continue to be in turmoil.
The Man is a builder, a great reasoner, a Guardian of energy, life, substance and survival. If Women are afraid to grant Men their Schools of thought, which is necessary for Men to educate and teach one another in their meetings of higher learning in order to pass on their logic- then the world will continue to be in turmoil.
One must rule over information, while the other over energy.
http://www.unifiedworlds.com/metatronscube.jpg
Straight lines represent the male, curved lines or circles are the female.
Why does a cube or a triangle also represent a female? Because a circle fits into a cube or triangle.
We must wonder, why does the Universe and our minds follow such laws but we don't? At least not consciously.
Jaisolovely 12-31-2007, 09:47 AM This morning when I had awoken, I remember in one of my dreams that I was adding up a long list of numbers but did not come up with the answer. It had started to get confusing because I believe some words or letters were also in the equation but it was suppose to be simple math, ya know addition! What does it mean to dream about adding up numbers?
Metaverse 12-31-2007, 02:44 PM Greetings Sis. Jai,
when something doesn't "add up" in a dream, sometimes it literally means something is not adding up in life. This might have to do with something you've been debating within yourself about, worrying or stressing over. People who have mathematically dreams are usually very fussy about things "adding up" or being logical to them. Dreams about numbers can also focus on dates and times when certain things are supposed to happen or develop.
Jaisolovely 12-31-2007, 08:02 PM Ok thanks your response has helped me.
cursed heart 01-02-2008, 11:09 AM I don't dream as much as I use to.
The last dream I had I was in my mothers house I grew up in.
My mother and my ex-husband were in my bedroom.
My mother was sitting on my bed and my exhusband was in my closet.
There were two stretchers in the bedroom as well.
They never acknowledged one another and they just kept still.
I know before my daughter was ill I would have dreams where i would always be looking for her in the house.
Everytime I found her she would be in a dark room calling out to me but I could never see her face.
She'd say mama I'm right here.
This always freaked me out.
It was one time right before she got sick as well that she climbed in the bed with me and while we were sleeping a force attacked her and the bed shook and a horrible noise/voice was present.
I was able to speak to it but I couldn't move.
I personally think if we could interpet our dreams/visons and premonitions(sp) we would make better choices in life.
omowalejabali 01-02-2008, 01:24 PM Dreams do not follow the same laws of reality that we have grown accustomed too. Because dreams, while based on reality at times are not based in reality. They take place within the kingdom of our minds and souls, the realm of the imagination and spirit.
But the dream world is also a virtual paradise. We can experience many worlds and people in our dreams, we can learn from many situations without having to act them out in real life.
This is a power that is greatly overlooked.
Logic vs. Intuition
When most females first meets a potential mate, for a few moments maybe not right away- she takes the time to "dream" to meditate on this new Man. She looks at his facial expressions, his walk- the way he reacts to certain words and how he expresses his thoughts. She gets enough of his data, his voice, his 3-d view and downloads him into her mind. From there, she can do what she wants with him. She can play out scenes in her mind and figure out what type of Man he will be for her. Is he marriage material? How will the children look? While most of this is based purely in fantasy and "living happily ever after"- without this sort of magic, many of us wouldn't be here.
It is the intuitive power of our Mothers that has helped to place us into the world, not to mention hours of tremendous pushing. She nurtures and gives birth to dreams, all of which becomes composed within us.
When some Men go out on a date with a potential mate, they are also paying close attention. If she continues to pile food on her plate and keeps on ordering wine, logic tells the Man he will have to pay for all of that. She might be too high maintenance or just right. He's busy putting two and two together. If she answers her cell phone and starts arguing with an ex. Boyfriend who keeps on calling her during the night. This adds up as well.
Yet most Men choose a mate that fits into their equation, even when it's for sex.
Men choose mates they can afford, and some Men can only afford to date for sex and nothing more. "Afford" doesn' always refer to money. Afford- can be applied to anything this Man has to direct his attention to, and his logic.
A Man is a lair if it is logical for him to be one. He is a deceiver or a playa - if it is logical for him to be one. He will only do what "makes sense to him." If a Man has gotten what he wants out of life from lying and deceiving so far, then is it only logical that such behavior will continue. It doesn't matter how many holes it has, if the underwear still functions as "under wear" then a Man will keep it.
We owe our very lives to this pattern of thought as well. Most of the best providers and protectors are stubborn logic driven Men who respect their Women but are more loyal to nature. Just as our Mother nurturer usually have a profound union with the cosmos and designer clothing.
Men and Women who have mastered the Dream Lab, can visualize their potential reality first, without manifesting it. This is the very reason for science and art. In truth in the beginning when an Artist drew, painted or sculpted something, it would act only as a model for something bigger, better and more real. When a Scientist produced experiments it was to find not only a theory but laws in nature that could be translated to other situations.
Men and Women, while apart and opposite from one another, are only legs that are connected to the same table. Just as logic and intuition are processes that exist in the same brain. And this also relates to Mathemagic and how it frames how we interact and compute the real and dream world.
That "same table" is spirit, the Ka and Ba of our being. The outer astral layer of our reality, as well as the inner nucleus of who we are. In Mathemagic, we find some of the same principles of the Ka-BBa - Lah.
Both these energies must be fed equally. Just as a Man and Woman in a relationship must be fed equally.
So many have said that we have lost of place in and with nature, but how do we regain that place? Many have also said, we have lost our minds, well how do we regain that mind? It could only be through the finding of balance and reciprocity between Man and Woman, nature and the cosmos.
The Man must be returned to his kingdom of knowledge which is Math- the language of the Universe and reality. The Woman must be returned to her kingdom of knowledge which is Magic - the language of spirit. Both have been stripped of their kingdom. Because every Woman in many ways is a daugther of magic, and the magical spiritual Mothers of art and science that ruled the known world for thousands of years. If Men are afraid to give Women back her Church, which is the temple of her body- then the earth will continue to be in turmoil.
The Man is a builder, a great reasoner, a Guardian of energy, life, substance and survival. If Women are afraid to grant Men their Schools of thought, which is necessary for Men to educate and teach one another in their meetings of higher learning in order to pass on their logic- then the world will continue to be in turmoil.
One must rule over information, while the other over energy.
http://www.unifiedworlds.com/metatronscube.jpg
Straight lines represent the male, curved lines or circles are the female.
Why does a cube or a triangle also represent a female? Because a circle fits into a cube or triangle.
We must wonder, why does the Universe and our minds follow such laws but we don't? At least not consciously.
Interestingly your symbol seems to represent 13 centers and I have addressed the importance of the number 13 before.
Minus the PHALLUS of Ausar [the 14] related to sexuality and since 13 cannot be divided into EQUAL parts no wonder why we are unbalanced and the same for our relationships.
omowalejabali 01-02-2008, 01:27 PM Interestingly your symbol seems to represent 13 centers and I have addressed the importance of the number 13 before.
Minus the PHALLUS of Ausar [the 14] related to sexuality and since 13 cannot be divided into EQUAL parts no wonder why we are unbalanced and the same for our relationships.
http://www.aiwaz.net/missing-phallus/a33
Metaverse 01-03-2008, 10:58 AM Now that is a very very interesting concept Bro. OM.
According to Plutarch's description Thoth fought with the Moon God to gain the birth of 5 'intercalary' deities, that represented additional 5 days of the year (14-18 July) added to previous 360. This Gods are born in successive days: Osiris, Nephthys, Seth, Isis, and Horus ('the elder'). Osiris is then mutilated by his brother Typhoon (Seth) into pieces that Isis collects and on the place of findings builds a shrine/tomb in the memory of her deceased husband. She finds all pieces except Phallus for which she makes a substitute, and post-mortal son of Osiris, Horus ('the younger'), was born. The myth later describes Horus' fight with Set in order to revenge Osiris' death. The myth contains all elements of the formula of Death and Resurrection, since when Isis completes the shattered Osiris, he resurrects in the heavenly abode. What is important for our interpretation is the number of parts of Osiris' body that was scattered around the country. Plutarch's version of the myth says that Osiris' body was torn into 14 pieces, or 13 + the missing Phallus.
I had a dream about 3 years ago about these 13 pieces. In the dream I was telling a group of people that not all memory is stored in the body, that in fact more of our most important memory is stored outside the body in remote locations around the Universe and our minds link remotely to retrieve memory when we need to. Suddenly I was pulled into a hallway of white light. And a Giant metallic Robot appeared and, it's head was a dome with a Universe with galaxies swirling around on the inside.
A dark haired Arabic looking Man in a black leather jacket was with it. The Robot ran up to me and was about to hit me, but the Man commanded it to stop, not yet. He had a small dog with him, with a collar of blinking lights around its neck. The Robot pulled a gun on me and they took me into a room where a big pool table was. When we entered, the Robot stood by the door, and the Man placed the Dog on the table- detaching it's head from the body and rested the head in the center on the pool table.
The collar kept the head alive. He started playing a game of pool, using the Head of the Dog and the pool balls to tell me a sadistic story. He told me it was wrong for me to tell people about their memories. He said I was messing everything up for "them" because they were doing so much to keep people away from their memories. He said he was going to break me into pieces and scatter me all over the Universe and I would never be able to "find myself." The Robot grabbed me. The next thing I knew, I felt myself floating through the Cosmos and back to Earth.
It wasn't that I was in pieces, but I couldn't remember who I was. Then my friends started showing up, and each one of them had a piece of me with them. It was like, when people really know- they literally carry a piece of you with them. You know like they say, remember me so I'll never be forgotten. So even in the dream itself, my theory about memories proved to be true.
When we forget who we are, those who love us have us with them, and they can remind us. I remember it took about 13 people before I gained my full consciousness. 11 of those people were females. But then it's that 14th piece, that perhaps we regain as we go through life.
But the "dying God" is a very interesting concept, because this is something I'm always experiencing. I've heard also that many of us dream about being "scattered" in some way, now I wonder if it ties into the information here.
Also many Eastern Teachers teach up to 14 Chakras, which most are still on 13.
Sis. CursedHeart, you are so right, we would make better choices in life if we learned how to interpret our dreams- and in our traditions that's what we used our Grandmothers and GrandFathers for. We could tell them a dream and they would tell us what it meant, what and who to stay away from.
But the real key to dream interpretation, is to become a "conscious" dreamer.
As I mentioned, this is done by using your mind as a "Dream Lab" using the power of your concentration, visualization and meditation to cease control of it.
Is the dream dreaming us, or are we dreaming the dream?
Only you can find the answer to this question- if you are willing to do the following experiment.
Before going outside into the world, you should sit for a few moments and give attention to some object of desire or interest. For example, it could be a woman in a red dress, a white Tiger, a rabbit- something that would fascinate you if you saw it when you go outside. Give it you full attention for few moments, and then let it go, see this image fading off into the Universe.
Now, when you go outside, it is possible it won't happen on the same day, but eventually you will see your object usually within a week. When you see your object you have to acknowledge it in some way. If it's a Woman in a red dress for example, say hello to her. Acknowledging the dream, helps us to take control of it. It allows your subconscious and spirit to realize that you are not just part of the dream world, you are it's master.
omowalejabali 01-03-2008, 02:22 PM Now that is a very very interesting concept Bro. OM.
According to Plutarch's description Thoth fought with the Moon God to gain the birth of 5 'intercalary' deities, that represented additional 5 days of the year (14-18 July) added to previous 360. This Gods are born in successive days: Osiris, Nephthys, Seth, Isis, and Horus ('the elder'). Osiris is then mutilated by his brother Typhoon (Seth) into pieces that Isis collects and on the place of findings builds a shrine/tomb in the memory of her deceased husband. She finds all pieces except Phallus for which she makes a substitute, and post-mortal son of Osiris, Horus ('the younger'), was born. The myth later describes Horus' fight with Set in order to revenge Osiris' death. The myth contains all elements of the formula of Death and Resurrection, since when Isis completes the shattered Osiris, he resurrects in the heavenly abode. What is important for our interpretation is the number of parts of Osiris' body that was scattered around the country. Plutarch's version of the myth says that Osiris' body was torn into 14 pieces, or 13 + the missing Phallus.
I had a dream about 3 years ago about these 13 pieces. In the dream I was telling a group of people that not all memory is stored in the body, that in fact more of our most important memory is stored outside the body in remote locations around the Universe and our minds link remotely to retrieve memory when we need to. Suddenly I was pulled into a hallway of white light. And a Giant metallic Robot appeared and, it's head was a dome with a Universe with galaxies swirling around on the inside.
A dark haired Arabic looking Man in a black leather jacket was with it. The Robot ran up to me and was about to hit me, but the Man commanded it to stop, not yet. He had a small dog with him, with a collar of blinking lights around its neck. The Robot pulled a gun on me and they took me into a room where a big pool table was. When we entered, the Robot stood by the door, and the Man placed the Dog on the table- detaching it's head from the body and rested the head in the center on the pool table.
The collar kept the head alive. He started playing a game of pool, using the Head of the Dog and the pool balls to tell me a sadistic story. He told me it was wrong for me to tell people about their memories. He said I was messing everything up for "them" because they were doing so much to keep people away from their memories. He said he was going to break me into pieces and scatter me all over the Universe and I would never be able to "find myself." The Robot grabbed me. The next thing I knew, I felt myself floating through the Cosmos and back to Earth.
It wasn't that I was in pieces, but I couldn't remember who I was. Then my friends started showing up, and each one of them had a piece of me with them. It was like, when people really know- they literally carry a piece of you with them. You know like they say, remember me so I'll never be forgotten. So even in the dream itself, my theory about memories proved to be true.
When we forget who we are, those who love us have us with them, and they can remind us. I remember it took about 13 people before I gained my full consciousness. 11 of those people were females. But then it's that 14th piece, that perhaps we regain as we go through life.
But the "dying God" is a very interesting concept, because this is something I'm always experiencing. I've heard also that many of us dream about being "scattered" in some way, now I wonder if it ties into the information here.
Also many Eastern Teachers teach up to 14 Chakras, which most are still on 13.
Sis. CursedHeart, you are so right, we would make better choices in life if we learned how to interpret our dreams- and in our traditions that's what we used our Grandmothers and GrandFathers for. We could tell them a dream and they would tell us what it meant, what and who to stay away from.
But the real key to dream interpretation, is to become a "conscious" dreamer.
As I mentioned, this is done by using your mind as a "Dream Lab" using the power of your concentration, visualization and meditation to cease control of it.
Is the dream dreaming us, or are we dreaming the dream?
Only you can find the answer to this question- if you are willing to do the following experiment.
Before going outside into the world, you should sit for a few moments and give attention to some object of desire or interest. For example, it could be a woman in a red dress, a white Tiger, a rabbit- something that would fascinate you if you saw it when you go outside. Give it you full attention for few moments, and then let it go, see this image fading off into the Universe.
Now, when you go outside, it is possible it won't happen on the same day, but eventually you will see your object usually within a week. When you see your object you have to acknowledge it in some way. If it's a Woman in a red dress for example, say hello to her. Acknowledging the dream, helps us to take control of it. It allows your subconscious and spirit to realize that you are not just part of the dream world, you are it's master.
This is quite interesting on so many levels that I cant explain. It just brought something else into memory but thats a story I will hold my tongue on for now.
However, it does have me wondering what happens when those 11 or 13 "females" [hint] begin to fade into memory and we are left with fewer "associations" [my present situation].
Does this indicate that we are [dying] or "passing" into another realm?
Or have we allready, spiritually, "crossed over"?
I THINK that the 13 is what leads US to find our True Self [14th] and our "sexual power" or "identity".
This is to say, "re-Generation"
[this applies specifically to MEN] but can be applied to women as well, but not quite in the same manner because women dont have a "phallus" [as in the case of Osiris]
After reading concerning the "Kore Kosmou" it seems as if we find ourselves in a situation which we percieve as imbalance when it may actually be the Order of the Ancients. With Isis [Black Woman] being the primary teacher of the Son [Horus]. Which explains to me why Black Men are stuggling to reach the level of "Asar". Trying to re-gain our "Manhood" [phallus] which has been castrated.
I-khan 01-03-2008, 03:10 PM I dropped trying to practice and find a religion because of my 'dreams.'
In them I would be flying through 'space' and such....and everything would seem so 'real'....
all that happened after certain principles and values were threatened,by those who have none (I used to be there,too).
studying religion is still important. Being 'to spritual' in some cases had led to dire consequences, perhaps we are regaining our balance between the spiritual and the physical.
Some subjects I suggest people attempt to study (so they can study themselves) are NLP, voice inflection,creative visualization, and body language.
dont forget that we should not be too 'serious,' we have to see ourselves in the future, like the 'others' do with sci-fi movies....
that is the conclusion after learning more from dem 'dreams' than any book.
Metaverse 01-04-2008, 12:39 AM Yes Bro. I-KHAN, you have said a "mindfull" and also as #13 in the thread, you are here to remind us of something very important. I know Bro. OM can teach us about that as well, Religion will never be able to satisfy our spiritual thirst like when we apply our mind and consciousness to the understanding of self. Whether the self breaks down to "dreams" or the way we talk and interact with people.
A Religious Brotha walked up to me and said, When are you coming to Church? I said, I am in Church Brotha. I am "in" Church. He looked at me like I was crazy, it went over his head.
I know a few people who are advance in the art of hypnosis, have also studied NLP. I think it is a very interesting study and I would like to see more of us perfecting it.
Metaverse 01-05-2008, 04:00 PM Manifesting thought energy, is as simple as
1. Thinking the thought. Ex. "I am happy today, I feel positive and this feeling with continue throughout the day."
2. Visualize a blue bubble around the thought.
3. Release the bubble, visualize it leaving your head, like a floating balloon, or you can project it out as aggressively as you possibly can. It all depends on what kind of thought it is. You can visualize the balloon doing anything, just make sure it disappears out of sight.
I enjoy sending out my blue balloons in a rage. Like a basketball bouncing on the ground and then bursting open and disappearing. Everyone has their own style.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p303/metaverse007/blueballs.gif
What is this doing, and how does this help us? First off, it's a great stress reliever. Second, our thoughts do manage to manifest themselves, this all depends on how much and how well we practice.
The Math in this teaches us to think the thought and allow the Universe to do the rest. The same as sowing the seed and allowing nature to do the balance.
The Magic in this, is the rate by which our thoughts do manifest. This depends on the nature of the thought, and how willing we are to let it go.
Metaverse 01-05-2008, 04:33 PM Another very interesting concept introduced to us when we study how the mind visualizes, thinks and how the subconscious and collective unconscious is affected by images, sounds and vibrations- is that if we cease control of our visual media, even our personal images around the home we can also reprogram our thoughts and invent a better identity for ourselves.
This would be the perfect business for all visual Artists. To give our people a clear visual of what they should be and would like to be. Instead of regular images around the home, we should have also have pictures of our "ideal" self.
This is not at all anything new for us. Yet it is something we need to return to.
http://www.amsterdam-artgallery.com/imgf/1/inet/084.jpg
Our Females and Mothers should be painted in their Royal Glory.
http://www.shopategypt.com/store/images/papyrus-painting-002b.jpg
And would it hurt anyone's self esteem to be depicted in Khemetic adoration?
We have to see ourselves in this type of light. This would be the perfect painting for a couple to have, the Husband playing the role of Horus, and the Wife playing the role of Neferari.
What type of effect would such a painting have on their subconscious?
http://www.kooldave.com/images/afroworld/queens/cleop.jpg
No Black Woman in America should be without such images of themselves with a crown.
http://www.kooldave.com/images/afroworld/queens/nandi.jpg
omowalejabali 01-05-2008, 04:37 PM I dropped trying to practice and find a religion because of my 'dreams.'
In them I would be flying through 'space' and such....and everything would seem so 'real'....
all that happened after certain principles and values were threatened,by those who have none (I used to be there,too).
studying religion is still important. Being 'to spritual' in some cases had led to dire consequences, perhaps we are regaining our balance between the spiritual and the physical.
Some subjects I suggest people attempt to study (so they can study themselves) are NLP, voice inflection,creative visualization, and body language.
dont forget that we should not be too 'serious,' we have to see ourselves in the future, like the 'others' do with sci-fi movies....
that is the conclusion after learning more from dem 'dreams' than any book.
With "flying".
I am also trying to study my own body more. The other day that information I posted on the "Rosy Cross" in reference to those lements:mercury, Sulfur, Salt really broke things down to me on the BIO-PHYSICAL level. Really simplified matters. As a result I digged some vitamin and mineral supplements out of storage in addition to Ashby's book on Egyptian Yoga. I also am sleeping better since moving. I think I may have released myself from some karmic energy that was blocking me, even though I am still unstable economically. So long as I sleep better at night, I feel it a positive change for my betterment.
I am trying to do as you suggest and SEE myself in the future. This is difficult at times because I am not optimistic regarding what I do see for US, as a collective.
I am learning to trust my own intuition more. Still dont remember the details of my dreams but they do seem to stimulate me more to act in a more pro-active manner. Seeking solutions.
omowalejabali 01-05-2008, 04:42 PM Yes Bro. I-KHAN, you have said a "mindfull" and also as #13 in the thread, you are here to remind us of something very important. I know Bro. OM can teach us about that as well, Religion will never be able to satisfy our spiritual thirst like when we apply our mind and consciousness to the understanding of self. Whether the self breaks down to "dreams" or the way we talk and interact with people.
A Religious Brotha walked up to me and said, When are you coming to Church? I said, I am in Church Brotha. I am "in" Church. He looked at me like I was crazy, it went over his head.
I know a few people who are advance in the art of hypnosis, have also studied NLP. I think it is a very interesting study and I would like to see more of us perfecting it.
My doctor and message therapists keep pushing church on me. I have told them bout some of my past experiences in a respectful manner. They are good people who I dont wanna alienate. I think the key actually is how and when we interact with others. Especially loved ones. I am working on this.
However, being in-tune with my own internal clock and fine-tuning its mechanisms is my priority. Even if it requires jeopardizing financial gain. Even if others dont get my purpose. I must focus on balancing ME.
omowalejabali 01-05-2008, 04:53 PM Another very interesting concept introduced to us when we study how the mind visualizes, thinks and how the subconscious and collective unconscious is affected by images, sounds and vibrations- is that if we cease control of our visual media, even our personal images around the home we can also reprogram our thoughts and invent a better identity for ourselves.
This would be the perfect business for all visual Artists. To give our people a clear visual of what they should be and would like to be. Instead of regular images around the home, we should have also have pictures of our "ideal" self.
This is not at all anything new for us. Yet it is something we need to return to.
http://www.amsterdam-artgallery.com/imgf/1/inet/084.jpg
Our Females and Mothers should be painted in their Royal Glory.
http://www.shopategypt.com/store/images/papyrus-painting-002b.jpg
And would it hurt anyone's self esteem to be depicted in Khemetic adoration?
We have to see ourselves in this type of light. This would be the perfect painting for a couple to have, the Husband playing the role of Horus, and the Wife playing the role of Neferari.
What type of effect would such a painting have on their subconscious?
http://www.kooldave.com/images/afroworld/queens/cleop.jpg
No Black Woman in America should be without such images of themselves with a crown.
http://www.kooldave.com/images/afroworld/queens/nandi.jpg
I recently did attend a church service where the message was:
Think Noble.
Be Grateful.
Do Generously.
I meditated on this and modified.
Think ROYAL.
Be GREATNESS.
Do Gracefully.
Royalty is greater than Nobility. And even Biblically the teaching is we are saved through the Grace of God.
So, while I AM grateful and do generously I also recognize my Greatness and the blessing of Grace which has been bestowed upon me. This is an example of my own intuitive power.
Yes, we must see the Black Woman and the Black Man as ROYALTY. And treat each other accordingly.
I-khan 01-05-2008, 04:54 PM I am trying to do as you suggest and SEE myself in the future. This is difficult at times because I am not optimistic regarding what I do see for US, as a collective.
I overstand you sentiment, I am not optomistic or pessimistic.Both are parts of the whole and one wins over the other, an imbalance occurs and the person becomes an extreme version of the opposite. I prefer to "roll with the punches. Regardless, "They" NEED us to feel like we are hopeless and powerless in the face of them, when we believe we are hopeless we act like it.Simply being the best a person can be will naturally lead them towards 'truth.' Remeber in I AM LEGEND how the KV virus killed 90% of the population and in the movie "Esoteric Agenda" (on youtube) the goal of Codex Alimentarius( according to the movie esoteric agenda) was to kill of 90% of the population. THEY are showing us there plans, but like most folks "blinded by greed" they will undo themselves, with help from the general population and universal "karmic law."
omowalejabali 01-05-2008, 05:00 PM I recently did attend a church service where the message was:
Think Noble.
Be Grateful.
Do Generously.
I meditated on this and modified.
Think ROYAL.
Be GREATNESS.
Do Gracefully.
Royalty is greater than Nobility. And even Biblically the teaching is we are saved through the Grace of God.
So, while I AM grateful and do generously I also recognize my Greatness and the blessing of Grace which has been bestowed upon me. This is an example of my own intuitive power.
Yes, we must see the Black Woman and the Black Man as ROYALTY. And treat each other accordingly.
Immediately after posting this I did a google search on "Egyptian Royalty". This is the first link posted.
http://www.royalty.nu/Africa/Egypt/index.html
Now I can constuct a gallery of all the images from each link and make a slideshow or documentary movie. The power alone in the images will register in my subconscious and give me a powerful tool to meditate upon.
I am sure that this "project" will also trigger some memorization of the "Akashic Record" dating back who knows how far and into what "past-lives". This, in effect will be my own "Dream:Lab".
I will make it part 2 of my video project "Ascended Masters".
Thanks for this forum brother Meta Saience and brother I-khan for your input!
Metaverse 01-06-2008, 04:25 AM Thank you Bro. OM and Bro. IKHAN. This is a great help for all of us, all the discoveries we make about self helps us. Bro. OM your project is really needed.
There is no reason for us in this place in history, not to use the internet for a higher purpose. Especially since the powers that be work so hard to crucify our subconscious by killing off positive Black imagery and positive Black history.
We need the positive reinforcement, because we are suffering and in need of healing. We can start by using our Dream Labs, our creativity to invent and build the instruments for our healing. Our words, our images, our music can be offered up to one another as tools we can use to change the negative into the positive.
In NYC, there was a time when we said good-bye to our friends by saying "One love." Now it's just "One." And sometimes people forget what that means. And when this happens, it's important for us to remind each other. It helps to keep these sayings from becoming too common on the tongue. Church is one of those sayings, that has become too common on the tongue. But the truth of Church is comm-unity. Anyone who misses Church, misses the unity among the people, and some of us need Church because this type of community is not found anywhere else. I miss this community myself. And it seems I've been missing it for thousands of years. I remember having a pastlife feeling that I was once a Teacher in a very spiritual community. In my visions, when I think about what a spiritual community would look like on Earth, I see an entire society modeled around spiritual science and inventiveness. A society that is not locked into one way of looking at the spirit or at the Sun, but one that is approachable when it comes to the unlimited progress of Human perspective.
We all have a role to play, in the unfolding of destiny. And perhaps we will see the return of such communities on this planet, and perhaps then, it will be this reality that will become more of the dream. With the help of our visualization power, we can begin to see these worlds and how they might exist within us.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p303/metaverse007/Queen_True.gif
Queen True. This one of for you. It was made in such a way that your mind would benefit from it's symbolism.
MRS. LADY 01-06-2008, 07:03 AM Greetings Sis. Jai,
when something doesn't "add up" in a dream, sometimes it literally means something is not adding up in life. This might have to do with something you've been debating within yourself about, worrying or stressing over. People who have mathematically dreams are usually very fussy about things "adding up" or being logical to them. Dreams about numbers can also focus on dates and times when certain things are supposed to happen or develop.
How to you figure out the times??? sometimes I can figure out what the dream means but I can't figure out who it is about and when, and then what it means to me, and then something will happen in my life, and I'll understand after the fact...
what I don't understand is that I am very very fussy when things don't add up, but on the other hand I also realize that everything always doesn't add up...... and if i can't make things make logical sense I'm always creating some type of inner-turmoil......
I'll say well that doesn't add up.. and then I'll say but it's suppose to....
I associate everything to numbers.. just naturally... the dreams scare me because i know there is a message in them.. and i can't figure it out...
the situations are usually real.. my mind picks other characters.... real people in my life.... but not usually who i'm dreaming about??????????
example... I kept having this dream about a baby.. a friend of mine, a guy, was having a baby with a girl that wasn't so good...
in my life.... i did have a friend that was with a not so nice girl no baby tho...
so in my dream..... someone was trying to kill his baby....
i'm waking up crying... because someone died.... i mean i could feel the pain that u feel when someone dies...
now i'm saying but who's gonna die... goin nutts... cause the feeling was real... maybe not the dream..
get a phone call... my sister... she's crying...
she was pregnant.. the baby .. the babies heart stopp'd beating... so it was my niece or nephew that was in trouble........ inside of my sister..
the man that i was dreaming about was someone that I was attracted to and thought about very much.....
the funny thing is they both have the same birthday.... well one day a part..
the dream haunted me night after night.. and I feel like if I would have figured it out.. I could have gotten my sister off to a doctor before hand, and maybe things could have turned out different......
I think that because after she lost the baby.. the dreams stopp'd ....
Metaverse 01-06-2008, 12:58 PM Thank you Miss Lady for sharing your dream experience.
One thing I've learned about numbers in dreams, at least the ones that are really dates for situations that will take place in the future, is that it might take a great deal of memory and concentration to focus and record the numbers, and then to understand how they relate to our current time period. Luckily, most of us are good at recording numbers from our dreams if anything else. Like those Elders who dream numbers and play the lottery. The easiest dates are the only that have only one digit. Like 5 for example, then you know in 5 days something will take place.
But there was no way for the thousands of people like myself who saw 9-11 in our dreams 3 years before it took place to prevent it. I even saw the numbers on a clock, it wasn't until after 9-11 that I figured out the clock didn't say 8:55. The small hand was pointing to 9 and the large hand was pointing to 11.
Perhaps in a more spiritual society, where people aren't called crazy because they can see the future in their dreams- we would've been able to stop it, or at least build the awareness that someone was planning something. This is another indication that obviously something is wrong with our world because people have been seeing the future in their dreams for thousands of years yet it is still taboo in the mainstream.
Sometimes we might receive a clear message about the future, and our brains will re-interpret the message because it is dealing with something we fear. In your case it was your Sister's baby. The goal to prevent every future we dream about can easily become an obsession. Sometimes this is not the goal of these dreams. The goal is make you aware of the ability to see into the future, thereby leading you to develop and practice this ability so that you will become fearless, more open to seeing any reality and then you will be able to warn people and prevent situations from taking place. This means you will become your Family's spiritual guide in a sense. People who depend on you, you will be needed, respected and even feared.
Nicholas Cage did a movie recently called "Next" where he used his ability to foreshadow 15 minutes into the future, he could only see the future that involved him- but the used it to avoid certain situations. In one line he says, when you look at the future it changes, because you looked at it. I've found this to be true myself. Seeing the future can also change the future, the key is knowing what you are looking at. Because the future is delivered to us in a dream format, sometimes we are not aware that we are even looking at an event that is going to take place.
This can change once we learn how to have the awakened dream, conscious dreaming. When we start to visualize futures that are not so distant. See yourself getting up and having a glass of water for example. See yourself doing things before you actually do them. This helps us to see the future more clearly.
truetothecause 01-11-2008, 06:51 PM Queen True. This one of for you. It was made in such a way that your mind would benefit from it's symbolism.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p303/metaverse007/Queen_True.gif
Where my MIND went:
I am working on uploading a three part video series in RE~ply to this.
Mia Dogo (see you soon in da ewe language!)
:hearts2:
ps. NOW...I'm going to actually READ the commentary:SuN018:
truetothecause 01-11-2008, 07:45 PM Where my MIND went:
I am working on uploading a three part video series in RE~ply to this.
Mia Dogo (see you soon in da ewe language!)
:hearts2:
ps. NOW...I'm going to actually READ the commentary:SuN018:
Part 1
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Part 2
CKkAyuRL3dw
Part 3
bzA36rqgtyU
:hearts2:
Jaisolovely 01-11-2008, 10:37 PM May I have a drawing too?
Metaverse 01-12-2008, 01:41 AM Queen True, gifted one- once again you have added a layer of reality to the topic! What is amazing to me especially here, is that if you notice in all of your videos, there are 2 Lions right behind you on your background screen. When I created that drawing, I simply listened, using some of the same methods we spoke about in this thread.
It seems the Lion is a very significant Male African symbol for you Queen True. And in this case, it does represent a negative and positive force. It is riding your back and it also has your back.
The Ankh is worn on your forehead, to signify this is where your Mind or 3rd eye is focused on: The balance of Male and female energy in order to produce and preserve Life.
I'm glad you picked up on the "flow" of your gown. It does remind you of the recent IP symbol as well, it denotes the magnetic force of energy being drawn from the womb. The Black skirt represents your source of power, which is the Universe itself. Green grows out from it, representing the Earth, and then we have red for blood and gold for the Sun.
The Red Lion is looking straight ahead at us, he is a Protector also. He is red, representing a bloodline, your strong Male Ancestors. From your left hand, the same arm where the Lion sits, pours your gold coins. This represents how you make your money, is through the left side of the brain "rationalizing" and creating a balance and harmony with reason. Notice you throw out 5 coins, yet hold on to 1. For 5 days you labor for others, for only 1 day you donate time for yourself. This 5 to 1 Ratio might be found in other areas of your life too.
That's just the "Math" part of this image. The "Magic" part is all in how it will affect you on a subconscious level. Since you are aware of the Male Lion, now you are more aware. Since you are aware of how much you give out to others while keeping the smallest amount for yourself, now you are more aware. You are also aware of your connection to the Universe and that you are an expression of Mother Earth herself.
Sis. Jai, as a token of love and respect to Mother Destee's forum- I would be more than happy to create a drawing for you for a donation of any amount to Destee.com. As well, I would like to see what the Dream Lab shows us about your energy!
Amnat77 01-12-2008, 01:32 PM How to you figure out the times??? sometimes I can figure out what the dream means but I can't figure out who it is about and when, and then what it means to me, and then something will happen in my life, and I'll understand after the fact...
what I don't understand is that I am very very fussy when things don't add up, but on the other hand I also realize that everything always doesn't add up...... and if i can't make things make logical sense I'm always creating some type of inner-turmoil......
I'll say well that doesn't add up.. and then I'll say but it's suppose to....
I associate everything to numbers.. just naturally... the dreams scare me because i know there is a message in them.. and i can't figure it out...
the situations are usually real.. my mind picks other characters.... real people in my life.... but not usually who i'm dreaming about??????????
example... I kept having this dream about a baby.. a friend of mine, a guy, was having a baby with a girl that wasn't so good...
in my life.... i did have a friend that was with a not so nice girl no baby tho...
so in my dream..... someone was trying to kill his baby....
i'm waking up crying... because someone died.... i mean i could feel the pain that u feel when someone dies...
now i'm saying but who's gonna die... goin nutts... cause the feeling was real... maybe not the dream..
get a phone call... my sister... she's crying...
she was pregnant.. the baby .. the babies heart stopp'd beating... so it was my niece or nephew that was in trouble........ inside of my sister..
the man that i was dreaming about was someone that I was attracted to and thought about very much.....
the funny thing is they both have the same birthday.... well one day a part..
the dream haunted me night after night.. and I feel like if I would have figured it out.. I could have gotten my sister off to a doctor before hand, and maybe things could have turned out different......
I think that because after she lost the baby.. the dreams stopp'd ....
Miss Lady, Namaste'
excuse the personal nature of this question, but are you a Virgo?
i ask because sometimes our astrological sign determines the symbols in our dreams.....
e.g i am a Scorpio; another animal that symbolizes the Scorpio is the eagle, i have been dreaming of flying since i was a child.... sometimes i hover over things( in my dreams) and see what others can't......a dream interpreter told of the corelation between the symbolism of flying and my astrological sign.....
just wondering.....
thanks.
Jaisolovely 01-12-2008, 06:57 PM Sis. Jai, as a token of love and respect to Mother Destee's forum- I would be more than happy to create a drawing for you for a donation of any amount to Destee.com. As well, I would like to see what the Dream Lab shows us about your energy!
Ok I will see what I can do lol, but how would the Dream Lab show you my energy?
Metaverse 01-15-2008, 03:35 PM Sis. Jai,
I see you've completed step one. Now it's time for step two right?
Remember "The Dream Lab" is just a term for using your mind to visualize, or to have a conscious dream so to speak. Like day dreaming if you will, but more influenced by the concept of Mathemagic- the intuition and logical aspects of what you intend to create and manifest.
Since I don't know what you look like at all, if you want a drawing I would have to see at least a headshot. It was easy with Queen True of course!
truetothecause 01-15-2008, 04:22 PM Akwaaba!
I re-read this today and
It seems the Lion is a very significant Male African symbol for you Queen True. And in this case, it does represent a negative and positive force. It is riding your back and it also has your back.
The Ankh is worn on your forehead, to signify this is where your Mind or 3rd eye is focused on: The balance of Male and female energy in order to produce and preserve Life.
I'm glad you picked up on the "flow" of your gown. It does remind you of the recent IP symbol as well, it denotes the magnetic force of energy being drawn from the womb. The Black skirt represents your source of power, which is the Universe itself. Green grows out from it, representing the Earth, and then we have red for blood and gold for the Sun.
this is what came up...
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Mia dogo!
:hearts2:
Jaisolovely 01-15-2008, 06:46 PM I dont plan on posting my pics on here at all....
Metaverse 01-17-2008, 01:12 AM Queen True,
Thank you very much for sharing with us. It is very hard for many to be as honest as you've been already.
Because you are such a spiritual person, not just spiritual but introspective- your dreams will be perhaps more of a doorway between known forces that you probably always feel around you and your Ancestors.
It is not uncommon....And I am saying this also for other Women of Destee who share your spiritual traits...for a Male entity to show up in your dreams and present a Penis, or Penis symbol. The length, sometimes shown to indicate the time left for you to procreate. Male spirits, even Ancestors- are known for "haunting" Females who have no offspring. Now, if you have offspring sometimes this is still the case- but very rare.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p303/metaverse007/facesymbol1.gif
The Womb and Penis symbols can be found in the most natural places. How dare we in this day and age be of the mindset of confused gender and sexuality? I wonder, because some of us are-- yet the symbols are right on our faces.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p303/metaverse007/facesymbol2.gif
The Nose is the Penis and the Womb is the Mouth or Lips. What does the Nose do? It breaths, inhale-exhale. What is the Penis doing during intercourse? And what comes out of the Mouth?
I think it is very important to study the symbolism of nature and reality in general. There is a message in everything, not just our dreams- but also in the symbols of life.
Queen True, some Women might be ashamed to talk about their Penis dreams, but it's natural for a Woman to dream of them. Especially for the spiritual reasons I mentioned earlier. Dreaming of babies, or "babies in harms way" is also a sign of that as well. Your Maternal instincts are also part of your subconscious, and perhaps you've even had dreams of unknown babies and not jut babies in your family.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p303/metaverse007/dragonchild.jpg
Artists dream up drawings and paintings all the time. Yet people never go running for their dream books when they view or buy a painting. Why not? The same symbols are there, and we should understand what they mean.
Sometimes to activate my Dream Lab, I do a water meditation, I get in the shower, and let the water run heavy over my head and I relax until my mind drifts off. Often times, I hear singing, and sometimes I see myself as a Dragon. Or I see Dragons. I found out later than Dragons are very common in the astral realms as well. And can be defined by their colors.
So if we wanted to meditate on this image above, we should know that:
Orange Dragons-The will is the color orange. These dragons bring in strength, confidence, and bravery. Fire dragons by nature, they move with quickness. They don't inflate ego's, they merely instill confidence.
The young African Boy is offering this Dragon a green bowl of white eggs.
Green is the color for growth, White Eggs- gain, profit.
Of course the young Boy looks somewhat afraid and intimated by the Dragon who has nearly wrapped himself around the child. But he is not there to harm the child, he is there to instill wisdom and guidance. This is not an obvious symbol, but it is found in the open field and the blue sky. Blue is the color of truth.
Do you get the feeling the Boy is giving the Dragon an offering of some kind for protection or just to allow him to live? Is this a ritual? Maybe. This message comes from the cloth the child is wearing. White means something is dying or being re-newed. Around the child's neck is a piece of the Dragon, perhaps a tooth, given to him by his Father who also had to do the same at his age.
Metaverse 01-19-2008, 12:25 AM http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p303/metaverse007/Jaidream.jpg
Sis. Jaisolovely...hummmm
The image that appeared for you, is very close to this. You are part of the waters and you are the water. Perhaps this is an expression of the inner calm you have, or hope to achieve. There is a message here by the way the Earth is positioned in front of the Sun. This is dealing with your spirit, and also the planet you are on. Perhaps like many of us, you are not of this world. There is a glimpse of dark forces moving about, but you remain aglow- almost controlling the will of the life force around you.
The Math here, is in the positioning of certain objects around you. You appear to be melting away or emerging from the water as a spiritual force. That is part of the magic. Hopefully this image can help your own Dream Lab to visualize yourself in a different way. It may even spawn dreams.
Jaisolovely 01-19-2008, 12:53 PM http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p303/metaverse007/Jaidream.jpg
Sis. Jaisolovely...hummmm
The image that appeared for you, is very close to this. You are part of the waters and you are the water. Perhaps this is an expression of the inner calm you have, or hope to achieve. There is a message here by the way the Earth is positioned in front of the Sun. This is dealing with your spirit, and also the planet you are on. Perhaps like many of us, you are not of this world. There is a glimpse of dark forces moving about, but you remain aglow- almost controlling the will of the life force around you.
The Math here, is in the positioning of certain objects around you. You appear to be melting away or emerging from the water as a spiritual force. That is part of the magic. Hopefully this image can help your own Dream Lab to visualize yourself in a different way. It may even spawn dreams.
I had a dream before that I had emerged from water but wrapped in white cloth or linen (whatever fabric it was!). What does the blue symbolize?
I do have a calmness in my spirit. I try to not let anger or any one else's anger engulf me. I believe in peace and try not to harbor any hate within me. Now I always tell myself to not give those thoughts (negative ones) any energy and to think positive.
I can sense the dark forces around me but I have learned to use my mind/imagination to protect me. I always picture serpents..... especially the cobra above my head.
I have notice that the reflection in the water only shows my head glowing and the earth behind it, why is that?
Hopefully this image does help my dream lab!
Thanks Meta!! :hearts4: :SuN011: One luv!!
Metaverse 01-19-2008, 07:25 PM Hello again Sis. Jai,
The colors that are captured by our subconscious also reflect the colors of our aura, we also see these colors in our dreams too. Blue is a very good color to meditate on, especially as far as these Dream Lab techniques are concerned. Blue- is the color for mental clarity. Usually the best color to meditate on before an exam. Here are a few other useful colors found in the image.
Black the vibration of the unknown and the unconscious, mysterious power.
Pink healing through love and nurturing.
Purple spiritual healing and devotion.
Red Raw power and creative energy.
Sun Orange spiritual wealth.
Green growth and vitality.
White regeneration, return, the cleansing of spirit.
The image makes an association with you and the Earth by using the color blue also. In the reflection you are seeing your head glowing white with the Earth in the reflection but not the Sun. The Sun represents dominant male energy. This lake is a healing place for you, and spiritually it seems the Sun is kept in back of you for the moment.
Natinr 01-19-2008, 08:07 PM I had a dream of 3 kings sitting in a tree and they said my first and last name,
Another time I dreamt about an Elyseum field cause there was this temple like in Greece,and behind this here grove I could here a ritual orgy goin on.
When I entered the temple the white marble statue (like in Jason nd the Argonauts) fell on its knees in front of me and crumbled, kinda like in slow motion.
Been dreaming bout Kemet temples since childhood,(thougt they were museums till I saw photos of Luxor) and recurring dreams bout the Baboons sitting around somekinda "park " near the temple and chillin quiet and cool.
Metaverse 01-19-2008, 09:20 PM Sis. Jai, you might enjoy this one also.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p303/metaverse007/Jaidream2.gif
Natinr 01-20-2008, 10:21 AM I had a dream of 3 kings sitting in a tree and they said my first and last name,
Another time I dreamt about an Elyseum field cause there was this temple like in Greece,and behind this here grove I could here a ritual orgy goin on.
When I entered the temple the white marble statue (like in Jason nd the Argonauts) fell on its knees in front of me and crumbled, kinda like in slow motion.
Been dreaming bout Kemet temples since childhood,(thougt they were museums till I saw photos of Luxor) and recurring dreams bout the Baboons sitting around somekinda "park " near the temple and chillin quiet and cool.
Any info on what thse dream mean?
Thank you
Jaisolovely 01-20-2008, 12:11 PM Sis. Jai, you might enjoy this one also.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p303/metaverse007/Jaidream2.gif
Rahubaat Sena!
Man so many thoughts ran thru my mind trying to come up with an explanation for this image, but I dont get it at all?
Lol, but I can't stop looking at the earth and the Sun's movement. What does it mean?
Can I share with you my dream too? This is one I remember today from my night's slumber! " The setting took place in the bedroom. I can remember looking down in my hands as I walked in there and saw that I was holding a baby anaconda. It slipped right through my hands and disappeared. I remember sitting on the floor looking thru all of this clutter (boxes, books, etc) just looking for it. Then I looked up b/c of this woman's voice (dont remember hearing anything) and I had saw a woman, who I thought was my mom, wearing white pj's and sitting on the bed panicing. She was telling me to hurry up and find the anaconda (was bossy that's why i figured it was her lol). I did not find it, so we had jumped into the car and was riding down a street. I believe we were either going to look for it or was going somewhere else(not sure). As we were coming down the street we had passed the anaconda's lifeless body with some flesh bulging out the side and a bunch of black birds surrounding anaconda and poking at it's flesh. As we passed it I had turned around to look back and saw that more birds had flown down to pick at the body. Does this mean anything? It wasnt disturbing to me though.
Thanks in advance.... one luv!! :spinstar:
Jaisolovely 01-20-2008, 12:15 PM I have noticed also the three sun spots and the dark/black cloud encircling the Sun! ...still dont get it lol!
Amnat77 01-20-2008, 12:17 PM Any info on what thse dream mean?
had a dream of 3 kings sitting in a tree and they said my first and last name,
Another time I dreamt about an Elyseum field cause there was this temple like in Greece,and behind this here grove I could here a ritual orgy goin on.
When I entered the temple the white marble statue (like in Jason nd the Argonauts) fell on its knees in front of me and crumbled, kinda like in slow motion.
Been dreaming bout Kemet temples since childhood,(thougt they were museums till I saw photos of Luxor) and recurring dreams bout the Baboons sitting around somekinda "park " near the temple and chillin quiet and cool.
Thank you
Natnir,
I find the symbols in your dreams to be quiet fascinating....
3 kings siiting in tree: 3= trinity? kings= knowledge, older, power, ...sitting above you= wisdom, ancient? tree=life, growth, saying name= we are talking to you...
Elyseum field= another name for heaven in Greek culture= ancients
orgy behind a grove= egyptians, greeks, sumerians, ritual= ancients.
dreams about kemet since childhood= looking into the past, ancients.
marble statues=again reminiscent of the ancients either greek or Egyptians.
baboons sitting around park, quiet: The baboon god Baba, was worshiped in Pre-Dynastic times( egyptian) = ancients...sitting quietly=mediation, ritual=ancients
perhaps you are astral projecting at night.....or may be your are remembering another life/reality...what ever the case maybe, any time you have a dream that is consistently showing you the same symbols....a message is been sent for you to decipher.
my mentor says that our dreams have mutiple meanings.... that we can have up to 20 dreams in one night, and can only remember one or two.....deciphering dreams involves left brain thinking according to her....working on finding out the meaning behind the symbols of your dreams is part of the evolution of coming back to your spiritual self.
hope this helps
namaste'
Metaverse 01-20-2008, 01:17 PM Greetings Natinr-
The 3 Kings saying your first and last name. 3 spiritual or physical authority figures. "Sitting in a tree" might denote family ancestry, or perhaps they are Teachers, spiritual guides. If they were speaking your name, it means they are summoning you do to something for them. Also there is a message between Three and Tree. Creative growth will lead to something for you, some type of higher status.
Your other dreams "feel" closer to astral adventures rather than regular dreams.
The way to tell the difference is that in astral experience you usually have more of an opportunity to observe more details. You can stop and relax and watch the environment. But in dreams a story is being told, and messages are being sent. Somewhat like a virtual Email. You might be experiencing lifetimes you have already lived.
Sis. Jai-
The moving image is made to create a sense of interest in your mind. Your Dream Lab will come up with it's own logics behind what it means. Naturally it might produce some interesting dreams for you.
As far as your dream about the baby snake/serpent (remember you mentioned earlier you picture a cobra above your head.)- there is a family feminine connection here with serpents.
http://www.jawakidul.nl/schdewinaga.jpg
There as always been a deep involvement with the Goddess figure and serpents in Ancient folklore. Like the Green Goddess pictured with the Naga (serpent/snake/dragon).
http://www.artceram.com/images/imaget/tete15.jpg
What people wear snakes in the hair? Children of Mami wata.
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/a/a1/200px-Mami_Wata_poster.png
Your dream is telling you something about your spiritual development. Losing the baby snake and having to go through rubbish- junk in order to find it, is a symbol for losing one's hold on a spiritual connection, and having to go through "rubbish and junk" in order to find it. You went out of the house, meaning you went outside of "your self" to find the snake which was already dead, because it's only a baby anyway. The birds represent moments in time that eventually pick away at the memory of something we thought of as important to us.
This dream is telling you, you are still at your baby stages in something, it could be your spirituality, education or even a career, and you will have to work on developing it within yourself, if you allow it go get out, others will kill off that dream- they will pick at it, and you are not strong enough yet to stop it from happening. Perhaps your Mother is in the mix somewhere in that.
Natinr 01-20-2008, 03:56 PM Natnir,
I find the symbols in your dreams to be quiet fascinating....
3 kings siiting in tree: 3= trinity? kings= knowledge, older, power, ...sitting above you= wisdom, ancient? tree=life, growth, saying name= we are talking to you...
Elyseum field= another name for heaven in Greek culture= ancients
orgy behind a grove= egyptians, greeks, sumerians, ritual= ancients.
dreams about kemet since childhood= looking into the past, ancients.
marble statues=again reminiscent of the ancients either greek or Egyptians.
baboons sitting around park, quiet: The baboon god Baba, was worshiped in Pre-Dynastic times( egyptian) = ancients...sitting quietly=mediation, ritual=ancients
perhaps you are astral projecting at night.....or may be your are remembering another life/reality...what ever the case maybe, any time you have a dream that is consistently showing you the same symbols....a message is been sent for you to decipher.
my mentor says that our dreams have mutiple meanings.... that we can have up to 20 dreams in one night, and can only remember one or two.....deciphering dreams involves left brain thinking according to her....working on finding out the meaning behind the symbols of your dreams is part of the evolution of coming back to your spiritual self.
hope this helps
namaste'
Thankyou
Jaisolovely 01-20-2008, 10:12 PM Greetings Natinr-
The 3 Kings saying your first and last name. 3 spiritual or physical authority figures. "Sitting in a tree" might denote family ancestry, or perhaps they are Teachers, spiritual guides. If they were speaking your name, it means they are summoning you do to something for them. Also there is a message between Three and Tree. Creative growth will lead to something for you, some type of higher status.
Your other dreams "feel" closer to astral adventures rather than regular dreams.
The way to tell the difference is that in astral experience you usually have more of an opportunity to observe more details. You can stop and relax and watch the environment. But in dreams a story is being told, and messages are being sent. Somewhat like a virtual Email. You might be experiencing lifetimes you have already lived.
Sis. Jai-
The moving image is made to create a sense of interest in your mind. Your Dream Lab will come up with it's own logics behind what it means. Naturally it might produce some interesting dreams for you.
As far as your dream about the baby snake/serpent (remember you mentioned earlier you picture a cobra above your head.)- there is a family feminine connection here with serpents.
http://www.jawakidul.nl/schdewinaga.jpg
There as always been a deep involvement with the Goddess figure and serpents in Ancient folklore. Like the Green Goddess pictured with the Naga (serpent/snake/dragon).
http://www.artceram.com/images/imaget/tete15.jpg
What people wear snakes in the hair? Children of Mami wata.
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/a/a1/200px-Mami_Wata_poster.png
Your dream is telling you something about your spiritual development. Losing the baby snake and having to go through rubbish- junk in order to find it, is a symbol for losing one's hold on a spiritual connection, and having to go through "rubbish and junk" in order to find it. You went out of the house, meaning you went outside of "your self" to find the snake which was already dead, because it's only a baby anyway. The birds represent moments in time that eventually pick away at the memory of something we thought of as important to us.
This dream is telling you, you are still at your baby stages in something, it could be your spirituality, education or even a career, and you will have to work on developing it within yourself, if you allow it go get out, others will kill off that dream- they will pick at it, and you are not strong enough yet to stop it from happening. Perhaps your Mother is in the mix somewhere in that.
Ok thank you for helping me with my dream. It makes sense now, but hopefully I will dream about that image with the moving Sun and Earth and figure it out.
Natinr 01-21-2008, 01:27 AM Greetings Natinr-
The 3 Kings saying your first and last name. 3 spiritual or physical authority figures. "Sitting in a tree" might denote family ancestry, or perhaps they are Teachers, spiritual guides. If they were speaking your name, it means they are summoning you do to something for them. Also there is a message between Three and Tree. Creative growth will lead to something for you, some type of higher status.
Your other dreams "feel" closer to astral adventures rather than regular dreams.
The way to tell the difference is that in astral experience you usually have more of an opportunity to observe more details. You can stop and relax and watch the environment. But in dreams a story is being told, and messages are being sent. Somewhat like a virtual Email. You might be experiencing lifetimes you have already liv
Thank you!!!
I know exactly what you mean,
at one time
I saw a small(6ft length by 4ft high) Ankylosuarus(dinosaur)
in front of or near what I percieved to be a Kemetic temple, and it transformed into a statue of Taueret raised, or sitting on her hind legs with both hooves raied and head
up, and as you say, it was an observable quiet instance to take in the trees shrubs and architecture at leisure, but the transformation of this creature is what struck me.
Any info please.
the baboons chillin in the "park?" was a recurring thing from childhood into adolescence, lasting about a few minutes each time
truetothecause 01-21-2008, 02:54 AM I am still entralled with the first image produced for you.
I feel a DEEP connection to the image as well...and sense it's connection to ALL OF US Womb~man of Afreekan Descent.
It's always so amazing to 'find' the links which CONNECT Us!
I also love the second one...yet..the first one...did it for M.E.
SiS Jaisolovely!
MY SPIRIT HONORS YOURS
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
See, with your Be~coming a 'premium member' allowed for further exposure of the Connections amongst US. Thank you again....
Also, MetaSaience...
As you shared with Natinr, I began to wonder if the dreams where I am "flying" are actually astral experiences:?:
Usually, I'm fying over the hood's mostly, yet, I remeber the first time, while in the dream, where I realized I was ACTUALLY FYING.....like a bird and I was able to direct myself a bit higher to have a broader view of the world...not confined to overlooking around the hood. Plus, at times when "daydreaming" , I can sorta go away in my mind out in the Universe and have a "internal" sense of being there! ....naw what i mean:?
:hearts2:
Metaverse 01-21-2008, 11:22 AM You know what. Just when I somehow start to forget why talking about the Programming ability images have on the subconscious mind...something comes along to remind me just why it's so very important for us as a people to be aware of the message media beams into our minds.
Today was that day.
http://www.google.com/logos/mlk08.gif
To an ordinary mind this is cute. Two black children and one White child drawing the image of MLK on the ground. But look closely.
This is why threads like this one are so important to me, I hope we realize that the real battle is for our minds, and so far they are winning.
Queen True,
Your flying dreams are astral experiencing as well as "out of body" experiences. Our Ancient Ancestors of KMT are depicted in artistic representation sometimes with animal attributes or characteristics. Those attributes are said to communicate the state of their spirit reality, or astral reality. Our African Ancestors saw animals are much higher deities than Humans, and they are. Way before Christian Angels we had Winged images of Isis.
http://www.paganpretties.com/statuewingedisis.jpg
The ability to fly is a very important possession in your astral or dream life. While most of us fly in our astral without wings, the wings are an important symbol to meditate on in reality. They communicate our spirit reality, that in a sense we are "above" all the pettiness that this world provides. It is a good meditation also to visualize yourself with wings especially in a stressful situation or around negative people. Visualize your wing span and allow it to take over the room.
We should in fact wonder about ourselves if we are in an astral realm walking around, since there is no gravity there, unless we are in a place of our past. The Ka and Ba experience allows us to depart and descent into our bodies whenever we wish.
Greetings Natinr,
A child dreaming about Baboons in a park. Now reoccurring dreams are usually triggered by past lifetimes. It comes from the residual memory of a previous life. Your mind has to be very creative and sharp to have held on so well even to the memory of your reoccurring dreams about the Baboons, which also shows the possibility of it being a message from a past life experience. Reoccurring dreams are messages stuck in our minds. Have you ever turned on the TV and it's the same rerun of a show you've seen a million times? Not a coincidence, that moment is designed to send a message to you.
http://www.clevelandart.org/kids/egypt/animals/images/baboon.jpg
In KMT the Baboon was a spirit symbol for Thoth. The name Baboon itself is Kemetic, which also relates to BABA, and the Baboon God himself Babi. You most definitely have an astral spiritual connection to KMT, one that should be researched further.
Natinr 01-21-2008, 01:16 PM You know what. Just when I somehow start to forget why talking about the Programming ability images have on the subconscious mind...something comes along to remind me just why it's so very important for us as a people to be aware of the message media beams into our minds.
Today was that day.
http://www.google.com/logos/mlk08.gif
To an ordinary mind this is cute. Two black children and one White child drawing the image of MLK on the ground. But look closely
This is why threads like this one are so important to me, I hope we realize that the real battle is for our minds, and so far they are winning.
Queen True,
Your flying dreams are astral experiencing as well as "out of body" experiences. Our Ancient Ancestors of KMT are depicted in artistic representation sometimes with animal attributes or characteristics. Those attributes are said to communicate the state of their spirit reality, or astral reality. Our African Ancestors saw animals are much higher deities than Humans, and they are. Way before Christian Angels we had Winged images of Isis.
http://www.paganpretties.com/statuewingedisis.jpg
The ability to fly is a very important possession in your astral or dream life. While most of us fly in our astral without wings, the wings are an important symbol to meditate on in reality. They communicate our spirit reality, that in a sense we are "above" all the pettiness that this world provides. It is a good meditation also to visualize yourself with wings especially in a stressful situation or around negative people. Visualize your wing span and allow it to take over the room.
We should in fact wonder about ourselves if we are in an astral realm walking around, since there is no gravity there, unless we are in a place of our past. The Ka and Ba experience allows us to depart and descent into our bodies whenever we wish.
Greetings Natinr,
A child dreaming about Baboons in a park. Now reoccurring dreams are usually triggered by past lifetimes. It comes from the residual memory of a previous life. Your mind has to be very creative and sharp to have held on so well even to the memory of your reoccurring dreams about the Baboons, which also shows the possibility of it being a message from a past life experience. Reoccurring dreams are messages stuck in our minds. Have you ever turned on the TV and it's the same rerun of a show you've seen a million times? Not a coincidence, that moment is designed to send a message to you.
http://www.clevelandart.org/kids/egypt/animals/images/baboon.jpg
In KMT the Baboon was a spirit symbol for Thoth. The name Baboon itself is Kemetic, which also relates to BABA, and the Baboon God himself Babi. You most definitely have an astral spiritual connection to KMT, one that should be researched further.
Thanks for posting that Google symbol of degredation
Thank you. It has serious "negative ritual implications"
any info on that Tauaeret(hippo) thing
thank you!
truetothecause 01-21-2008, 03:02 PM WoW!..
Ok...first the google image..
first thing I note is the "position" of the children. The white child is closet and actively "coloring-(white-out) on the image. his pen is placed DIRECTLY AT THE FRONTAL LOBE AREA OF THE BRAIN. This is significant for M.E. KNOWING that housed in the Frontal Lobe are the structures which guide EXECUTIVE DECISION MAKING capabilities.
Next you said: "or around negative people." My first thoughts were to do what I usually do and RE~FRAME the comment to change the IMAGE i see.
as opposed to "seeing" the PEOPLE as "negative" , I recognize the BEHAVIORS as "negative"
ex....When I am with my MOTHER, and she is saying or doing something which I experience as hurtful, rather then label HER as "negative" ...I recognize the THOUGHT OR BEHAVIOR as such. In so Do~ing...SHE RE~mains who SHE IS ...MY MOTHER WHO LOVES M.E. DEARLY ..
that SHE has some b.s BEHAVIORS is another thing..and when those ENERGIES come into play.....I'LL SPREAD MY WINGS AND FLY AWAY....MENTALLY, SPIRITUALLY....FREE~ING MYSELF FROM THAT MOMENT IN TIME.
THANK YOU!
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
:hearts2:
Metaverse 01-21-2008, 03:27 PM http://www.google.com/logos/mlk08.gif
What we are looking at here is the image of MLK drawn as the Devil.
See it now?
And look who is the one drawing it. See where the chalk is being held up by the White boy? Notice also that MLK is being painted in a different yellow color. And the "J" swirl drawn by the Black girl. Meanwhile the young Black Boy just sits there and observes.
Woah. Happy EarthDay ML King.
truetothecause 01-21-2008, 04:16 PM http://www.google.com/logos/mlk08.gif
What we are looking at here is the image of MLK drawn as the Devil.
See it now?
And look who is the one drawing it. See where the chalk is being held up by the White boy? Notice also that MLK is being painted in a different yellow color. And the "J" swirl drawn by the Black girl. Meanwhile the young Black Boy just sits there and observes.
Woah. Happy EarthDay ML King.
Ummm...I don't "see" the devil just yet. Unless I view from the position of the two children...who I could see as the "horns" of the devil.
I noticed the coloring yet focused on position more and I saw the "J" yet had not mapped to anything with it yet.
What is your take on the "J":?: and it's positioning in the "devil" imagery:?:
:hearts2:
ps. YOUR WELCOMED....to my "honesty"
Jaisolovely 01-21-2008, 07:05 PM I am still trying to connect to my image but nothing has happend yet...
I can see the chalk in the wht boy's hand as representing a horn. I thought the "j" was the tail. I had also noticed the wht boy coloring the face yellow. It's saying something to me (not sure), but all I can get from it is that the men of our community are sitting back and watching something happen and the women are contributing to it....I dont know!
Metaverse 01-21-2008, 10:53 PM Sis. Jaisolovely!! Amazing!! You said you didn't connect to your image yet, but it is helping your awareness to open up, you hit that one right on the head!
The chalk the White boy is holding "is" the horn in MLK's head. The "blonde" swirl, which looks like a tail, is also the letter J as in Jesus. But perhaps the Order that put this image together would have another meaning for the J symbol.
Sis. Jai, it's always best to listen to your first mind and never doubt it, your first mind is your subconscious speaking out. Without deep analysis, clearly our minds see a Devil with horns. You notice the Black boy sitting back and as you've said Men in the community sitting back and letting it happen.
What is this message about? Let's just pretend for a moment that we can hear all those who are saying that I am reading too much into a very innocent image. Still, it would be too much of a coincidence for the White Boy to be positioned at his head, i.e- we have your minds. The Black boy sitting observing doing nothing, i.e- we have your males detained, distracted and hypnotized. And the Black girl drawing the J, we have your Women worshiping Jesus.
Queen TRUE!! They say I'm too much also. Too analytical, Too Deep, Too blunt, Too Honest....and I guess anything is possible in the Dream Lab.
Jaisolovely 01-22-2008, 08:41 AM Sis. Jaisolovely!! Amazing!! You said you didn't connect to your image yet, but it is helping your awareness to open up, you hit that one right on the head!
The chalk the White boy is holding "is" the horn in MLK's head. The "blonde" swirl, which looks like a tail, is also the letter J as in Jesus. But perhaps the Order that put this image together would have another meaning for the J symbol.
Sis. Jai, it's always best to listen to your first mind and never doubt it, your first mind is your subconscious speaking out. Without deep analysis, clearly our minds see a Devil with horns. You notice the Black boy sitting back and as you've said Men in the community sitting back and letting it happen.
What is this message about? Let's just pretend for a moment that we can hear all those who are saying that I am reading too much into a very innocent image. Still, it would be too much of a coincidence for the White Boy to be positioned at his head, i.e- we have your minds. The Black boy sitting observing doing nothing, i.e- we have your males detained, distracted and hypnotized. And the Black girl drawing the J, we have your Women worshiping Jesus.
Queen TRUE!! They say I'm too much also. Too analytical, Too Deep, Too blunt, Too Honest....and I guess anything is possible in the Dream Lab.
I will learn to stop doubting my first voice.:thanks:
truetothecause 01-22-2008, 01:30 PM I will learn to stop doubting my first voice.:thanks:
Cause I "saw" the devil AFTER your post!
I still....."see" what else I saw and...
when I think of the "J" I think of all the things "J" also stands for:
like
JUSTICE
JAH
JOY
JOIN
that "J" is placed in the Occipital lobe area of the brain. In the occipital lobe, structures and nerves leading to/responsible for SIGHT are housed, So, while THEY may see or intend the image to depicit a King as a devil....WE can choose to RE~cognize and highlight/tell a different Story about it.
WE can choose to RE~cognize that the white boy intends to demonize by placing a horn at the place where EXECUTIVE DECISION MAKING takes place which may support/stimulate the Black Male who is NOT wearing the horn, to get up...making an EXECUTIVE DECISION to protect what he "see's" happening and to RE~store what the Black Female child is calling for JUSTICE!
addition...tho....this new story about the image can only be effective for those who are reading here. Where is this image being shown MetaSaience:?:
cause now that I "see" the light....the devil.....I trust MANY others who view this (whereever goggle is promoting at) will also "see" this demonized version and what...act accordingly
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