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Zulile
08-25-2007, 10:30 PM
I would like to know what the viewpoints are on the Rastafari as a religious group. Emotionally, this is very close to me, but whether it has merit or not on the religious scale, I have no idea. In fact, I have little knowledge of their beliefs and would appreciate hearing from those who do.

Thanks in advance :)

Zacharias
08-26-2007, 06:41 PM
I would like to know what the viewpoints are on the Rastafari as a religious group. Emotionally, this is very close to me, but whether it has merit or not on the religious scale, I have no idea. In fact, I have little knowledge of their beliefs and would appreciate hearing from those who do.

Thanks in advance :)



What are actually are you looking for ?

Zulile
09-04-2007, 06:26 PM
"Istanjaay Ila Antuk" I'd love a translation for that :)

My questions are clearly uninformed, so please bear with me:

Can Rasta be Christian?
Do Rasta follow a particular doctrine - is there a written word/book to guide them?
I know a little about JAH, and Selasie but fail to see where it fits together in terms of a religious group.

IS Rastafari a religion? If not.. what is it then?

Of course - i have read here and there - but it is rather contradictory at times - and even more so when I speak to the few Rasta I know. For example - Rasta are vegetarians, or vegans? Should they wear leather, or not?

Many say there are many "fake" Rasta out there preaching the word.. but fake compared to.. what?

omowalejabali
09-04-2007, 07:40 PM
"Istanjaay Ila Antuk" I'd love a translation for that :)

My questions are clearly uninformed, so please bear with me:

Can Rasta be Christian?
Do Rasta follow a particular doctrine - is there a written word/book to guide them?
I know a little about JAH, and Selasie but fail to see where it fits together in terms of a religious group.

IS Rastafari a religion? If not.. what is it then?

Of course - i have read here and there - but it is rather contradictory at times - and even more so when I speak to the few Rasta I know. For example - Rasta are vegetarians, or vegans? Should they wear leather, or not?

Many say there are many "fake" Rasta out there preaching the word.. but fake compared to.. what?

KEBRA NAGAST:THE LOST BIBLE OF RASTAFARIAN WISDOM AND FAITH FROM ETHIOPIA.


Check amazon.com or any major bookstore such as Barnes and Nobles. Some stores specializing in Black books such as Eso Wan in los angeles. I cannot discuss specifics in these threads anymore but if you check the threads search KEBRA NAGAST, which I authored. Discussion here often leads to disruption so Im just referencing the posts.

Peace.

omowalejabali
09-04-2007, 07:46 PM
KEBRA NAGAST:THE LOST BIBLE OF RASTAFARIAN WISDOM AND FAITH FROM ETHIOPIA.


Check amazon.com or any major bookstore such as Barnes and Nobles. Some stores specializing in Black books such as Eso Wan in los angeles. I cannot discuss specifics in these threads anymore but if you check the threads search KEBRA NAGAST, which I authored. Discussion here often leads to disruption so Im just referencing the posts.

Peace.
Another must read.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/afr/piby/index.htm

Rastafarian developed from the Afro Athlican Constructive Church founded by Robert A. Rogers. There was a later association with Ras Tafari Makonnen (Haile Selassie) as the "Black Messiah" or "Yah").

omowalejabali
09-04-2007, 08:04 PM
Another must read.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/afr/piby/index.htm

Rastafarian developed from the Afro Athlican Constructive Church founded by Robert A. Rogers. There was a later association with Ras Tafari Makonnen (Haile Selassie) as the "Black Messiah" or "Yah").

Just one of many sources.
http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/rast.html

Zulile
09-05-2007, 05:22 AM
Thank you very much, Brother O - I will check out your links and threads - and be in touch.

much appreciated!

Onyemobi
09-07-2007, 03:03 AM
I would like to know what the viewpoints are on the Rastafari as a religious group. Emotionally, this is very close to me, but whether it has merit or not on the religious scale, I have no idea. In fact, I have little knowledge of their beliefs and would appreciate hearing from those who do.

Thanks in advance :)

I respect them and their faith alot.

Music Producer
09-07-2007, 07:43 PM
I would like to know what the viewpoints are on the Rastafari as a religious group. Emotionally, this is very close to me, but whether it has merit or not on the religious scale, I have no idea. In fact, I have little knowledge of their beliefs and would appreciate hearing from those who do.

Thanks in advance :)
In my days of studying Rastafarian the Kebra Nagast was their primary doctrine, which lead to the Old Testament through Solomon and the Queen of Sheba.

I recently was on a message board for Rasta and these new modern beliefs of the Rasta are so twisted that they curse the Old Testament and have now joined the Black Revolution to destroy the Old Testament. I don’t know if these were fake Rastafarians pretending so they could infiltrate Rastafarianism or if they were the real thing. In my examination they were fake Rastafarians because they could not explain cursing the Old Testament and say the white man wrote them but yet following the Kebra Nagast that validates the Old Testament link to Ethiopia through King Menyelek.

These younger generations of hocus-pocus spiritualist are really confounding several ancient Africanized religions and theologies because all they are interested in is money and getting followers so they can take their money. As for adhering to original ancient African doctrine I think they could care less about them.

I would advise you read and study the Kebra Nagast instead of asking about Rastafarianism on the Internet.

The Kebra Nagast written by E.A. Wallis Budge is pretty good. ISBN 1-59605-025-X

Peace and Love and Good luck on your spiritual path.

omowalejabali
09-07-2007, 08:36 PM
In my days of studying Rastafarian the Kebra Nagast was their primary doctrine, which lead to the Old Testament through Solomon and the Queen of Sheba.

I recently was on a message board for Rasta and these new modern beliefs of the Rasta are so twisted that they curse the Old Testament and have now joined the Black Revolution to destroy the Old Testament. I don’t know if these were fake Rastafarians pretending so they could infiltrate Rastafarianism or if they were the real thing. In my examination they were fake Rastafarians because they could not explain cursing the Old Testament and say the white man wrote them but yet following the Kebra Nagast that validates the Old Testament link to Ethiopia through King Menyelek.

These younger generations of hocus-pocus spiritualist are really confounding several ancient Africanized religions and theologies because all they are interested in is money and getting followers so they can take their money. As for adhering to original ancient African doctrine I think they could care less about them.

I would advise you read and study the Kebra Nagast instead of asking about Rastafarianism on the Internet.

The Kebra Nagast written by E.A. Wallis Budge is pretty good. ISBN 1-59605-025-X

Peace and Love and Good luck on your spiritual path.

This is why I earlier recommended the Kebra Nagast.

This just proves how backwards things have become. One reason I have not toally dismissed the OLD Testament is exactly for this Reason.

The interesting thing about the Iytiopic version is that the emphasis is not on the lineage to King Solomon, but to Queen Makeda. And though it was later used by the Negusa to proclaim right to entitlement based on the "Solomonic Line", it actually was used also by groups of Rulers known as the Kandakes, and later the Yudiths. In fact, this is the same as the Biblical Judith.

Furthermore, a long line of Negusa were were from SHOA. The OT is the ONLY sacred-text that I have read that makes any mention of it.

The most irresponsible aspect of modern "Ras Tafari"-ianism is not recognizing the Ras Tafari himself was the LAST of a line of BLACK CHRISTIAN MONARCHS.

How can one separate the Man from the Spiritual and Family TREE from which he was birthed.

For over the past 1,600 years Iytiopia has remains, largely a BLACK CHRISTIAN NATION, since the time of King Ezana.

How can Rasta proclaim LASTA to "Stretch forth your Hands" and not expect to be recieved by Black folks singing Tawahedo Liturgy!

truetothecause
09-08-2007, 02:07 AM
I would like to know what the viewpoints are on the Rastafari as a religious group. Emotionally, this is very close to me, but whether it has merit or not on the religious scale, I have no idea. In fact, I have little knowledge of their beliefs and would appreciate hearing from those who do.

Thanks in advance :)

What I can share first and foremost is my personal experiences and coming to knowledge of RastafarI.
I will also say, I consider myself Rasta in Spirit and in Truth!

JAHHHHHHHH RASTA~FAR~! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubm4zvNAqHc)

I will also say, I look for the points of UNIFICATION...and run wit dat!...
:hearts2:

ps. S.I.S. Zulile...This leg of my Journey is definitely Sweetened by your Presence...Thank You for BE~ing .....here with M.E.....Mama Earth :bowdown:

Zacharias
09-09-2007, 09:25 PM
This Post is was written for those misguided and confused souls who are trying to support Haile Selassie by making him seem like some kind of God or Deity . In most cases , He's referred to as Haile Selassie I , elect , of Yah , King of Zion , Negusa Negast ( King Of Kings ) . Lord of Lords . The conquering Lion of the tribe of Judah , His Imperial Majesty ( H . I . M . ) Light of the world , King of Israel . Defender of the faith and earth's rightful ruler .

These titles were given to him by his followers who apparently don't know the History of their leader . Haile Selassie . They use scriptural quotes and apply them to him like The King of Kings found in Revelation 5 ; 5 , 17 ; 14 , 19 ; 16 Which has absolutely nothing to do with Haile Selassie . In each of these quotes it is clearly referring to the Messiah Jesus Whose Ancient Sumerian names is Tammuz Ezekiel 8 ; 14 , And I Quote ; The he brought me to the door of the gate of the Lord's house which was toward the north ; and behold there sat women weeping for
( Tammuz ) .

And whose galactical name is Sananda . They would know this if they began reading from the first verse of the chapter and not see a title in one of the verse that sounds good like '' King Of Kings '' And '' Lord Of Lords '' And use it out of context . If they knew how to speak the greek language which they are quoteing from . They would OverStand and wouldn't make such claims . And they have no proof or facts to back up these claims . They use these quotes as an excuse to exalt Haile Selassie as if he were Jesus Christ himself .

They've given him many titles which do mot apply to him in any form or fashion Haile Selassie was just another typical christian man ( Haile Selassie 1892 - 1975 A.D. )

Ques ; Was Selassie The King Of Ethiopia ?
Ans; Yes . He was The Emperor of Ethiopia but that's all he was he was not a worldwide influence and he was not a spiritual influence . He was not A Messiah or The Son Of Yahweh which has be mistranslated to mean '' The Son Of God '' . He was also not a religious man . Thus . He wasn't a religious influence . However , He was known to be A Tyrant and A Betrayer . If you read his history . You would see he was a Ordinary Lawyer And A Strategist .

And since you use quotes that apply to Jesus who you also say is God , And pretend as if they are talking about '' His Imperial Majesty '' Means that you apparently think he is Jesus . So do you mean to tell me that '' God '' Comes down to earth or Jesus returns to earth and becomes A Lawyer ? Come on ! And then has to get Educated by Europeans in order to carry out his divine mission on earth as A Savior ? Not In Righ Wisdom .

But for those of you who want to remain under The Spell Of Kingu ( Leviathan ) and these Spook -Filled Religions of Mythology ; And for those of you who want to wish upon a star and look foward to going to some Garden Beyond The Stars . And as for those of you men who don't want to take on The Responsibilities as The Eloheem . But want to depend on apparitions and Spirit and Spooks and Goblins that are to come out of The Sky and save you so that you do not have to take on The Responsibilties given to you by your fathers , The Anunnaqi , As The Caretakers Of This Planet Earth and The Rulers of the same . Just continue listening to these religious leaders and their Illogical Reasoning . For This Spell to be removed from people we must first make up our Minds to give back Religion . So you Hindus can take your Religion back . You Christians can have your Religion back , You Muslims and Jews can have your Religion back and you Rastafarians can have your Religion back .

It is time for you to link back into your Ancestors as written on The Walls In The Great Pyramids and written in The Sumerian Tablets called The Enuma Elish , The Etana And The Atra - Hasis to name a few , Where you can see yourself . Don't link yourselves to a Religion , Be it Copticism or whatever , Given by The Popes , Pastors , Preachers , Monsigniers , And Cardinals who all are a part of the plot .

Ques ; Just Who Was Haile Selassie ?
Ans ; Haile received a western education at a French Catholic Mission In Harar , Ethiopia in 1910 A.D. at the age of 18 Haile Selassie was appointed Governor of Sidamo , A City In Ethiopia , In 1912 A.D. Before he became 20 years old , He was The Govenor of Harar , Muleta and Sahli . In 1928 A.D. At the age of 36 , He became King of Shoa and in 1930 A.D. At the age of 38 , He was Crowned Emperor of Ethiopia . As you can see , Haile Selassie was not born A ruler . He worked his way up . However , Ethiopia is not the whole world , Just one small place .

You mean to tell me that your God has to go through all of these different levels and experiences just to eventually become the ruler of Ethiopia at the age of 38 ? If he was God shouldn't he have been able to become the ruler and if he was just The Governor of a country then that means that he had to be appointed by Someone who is higher than Him . Someone Higher Than God ? According to you God is The Supreme and The Highest . I suggest you get your stories and Facts Straight before you go labeling your leader '' God '' or making the implication that he is '' Christ '' .

Ques ; Wasn't Haile Born In Jerusalem Which Is One Of The Reasons Why It Is Believed That He Is Jesus Christ ?
Ans ; Haile Selassie was born in Harar Province , Ethiopia , Not in Jerusalem , I repeat , He was born ; He did not come down as Jesus went up . Haile Selassie had A Beginning Of Days when he was boen July 23 , 1892 A.D. And An End Of Days When He Died August 27 , 1975 A.D. He was The Nephew of Menelik ll . Menelik ll Took on this name centuries after Menelik l . After Menelik ll's Death in 1913 A.D. Haile Selassie , Along with Menelik ll's daughter Waizeru Zaudito . succeeded his reign . Menelik ll's grandson , Lij Yasu had succeeded him first before Haile Selassie and Zaudito but he ( Lij Yasu ) was deposed from the throne .

Haile Selassie's Father was Ras Makonnen Wolde Mikael who was Menelik's Chief Diplomat and soldier , Who took care of his horses , The Clydesdale Royal Fleet . Ras Makonnen's Mother was Wayzaro Tennaye Worq , And she was the daughter of Sahle Sillase . Selassie's Mother was Wayzaro Yashimabet Ehita Maryam , She died in 1894 A.D. When he was 2 years old . He had 10 Brothers and Sisters who died during childhood in a boating accident . He was the only one saved . When Haile Selassie was 15 years old in 1907 A.D. His father died . And shortly afterwards his guardian Ras Tassama was poisoned .

Ques ; If Haile Selassie Is Of The Line Of The Prophet Solomon , Where Did The Name Haile Selassie Come From ?
Ans ; Haile Selassie is an Amharic name , Not an Aramic ( Hebrew ) name . You can't tell me that a change of names was a result of the Migration of Solomon's Seed away from The Holy City called Jerusalem whose Ancient name is Kadesh . He should still have had A Hebrew name . If Yehuwdah ( Judah is The '' Lion Of The Tribe Of Judah '' Then somewhere along the line , His name should be Bar Yehuwdah ( Judah ) And not Ras Tafari , Son of Ras Makonnen and Wayzaro Yashimabet . His name should have Judah and it should reflect the name Yehuwdah ( Judah )

Because it Says in Ecclesiastes 7 ; 1 , And I Quote ; '' A Good Name Is Better Than Precious Ointment .... So to identify who he is , The '' Lion Of The Tribe Of Judah '' Cannot be born with a name like ... '' Robert '' . He was to be given a name Unbeknown to him and Unbeknown to the people that would name Him , He'd be given a sacred name that would identify him . Therefore his name would have been Dawiyd ( David ) Bar Yowseph or Jesus Son of Joseph 2,000 years ago meaning '' Savior Son Of Joseph '' . However , To the Hebrews , The Messiah has not yet come and based on the above reference quote , When he comes , His Name will be Ha - Mashiakh < Aramic / Hebrew . Dawiyd Bar Yishay and not Haile Selassie .

Zacharias
09-09-2007, 09:27 PM
Ques ; Well If Haile Descended From The Tribe Of Israel , Shouldn't His Name Or The Name Of His Forefathers Be In The Bible ?
Ans ; Yes . However , It is not . This is how you know that the story of Haile Selassie's Life was made up by some poor dillusioned Negroes who want to be important , Or at least have their leader look strong and important enought so they can look good and say '' Our leader was the great Haile Selassie who was the elect of Yah , The Emperor of Ethiopia when '' Your '' great leader has not published or produced one piece of literature for the upliftment of the people . As far as the name Menelik is concerned , Menelik , As well as Haile Selassie , Cannot be found in The Torah known as The 5 Scrolls Of Moses . Most of the names of the families of Israel in The Era of The Scroll Of Zechariah on down , Came out of The Old Scrolls .

For Instance , The name Joshua even down to Jesus , And even when they said Yashu'a Which is nothing but another form of Yahoshua ( Joshua ) , Was used . Then Jesus' Adopted Father's name , Yowseph , Arabic ( Yusuf ) , English ( Joseph ) and his mothers name , Mariam , Arabic ( Arabic ) Maryam ) was used also . That's like accepting the name Jew for Judah or Judea and then say any Khazar from Russia who converts to the Ashkeazim sect or any Spainard from Spain who converts to the Sephardim sect and declares themselves the original Hebrews or original Israelites or original tribe of Judah just because of their conversion and creation of the name Jew has that right , That's wrong .

Joseph Stepfather Of Jesus ( Matthew 1 ; 16 ) , Mary Mother Of Jesus ( Matthew 1 ; 16 ) .
The use of these names started from Moses' Sister Miryam ( Mary ) ( Exodus 2 ; 4 - 10 ) To Joseph Son Of Jacob ( Genesis 37 ; 1 - 36 ) . Mary Sister Of Moses ( Exodus 2 ; 4 ) Joseph Son Of Jacob And Rachel ( Genesis 30 ; 24 ) ..... These names were always used . So , How is it that the Family of Haile Selassie are direct descendants . And All of A Sudden New Names Are Grafted into a spelling like Menelik that doesn't pop up anywhere in The Old Testament , Nor The New Testament , Or in The Haftorah which are prophetic writing . ( Prove Haile Selassie Descendancy ! ) ...

Just because you use the word '' Descended '' And say that Haile Selassie descended from The '' Noble Solomonic house of Shoa '' Doesn't mean anything . That means anybody who says their Grandmother is named Mary can say She's A Descendant Of Jesus . The word '' Descend '' Merely means '' To Move Or Pass From A Higher Place To A Lower One '' . ( Haile Selassie Can't Prove His Own Descendancy Nor Can You , I Can )

Ques ; The NamesHaile Nor Menelik Can Be Found In The Scriptures , But The Name '' Ras '' Can , Which Is A Part Of His Father's Name .Doesn't This Prove His Lineage ?
Ans ; The name Ras '' Can be found in The Scriptures , But it's Rosh which was the name of one of Benjamin's Son who was of the children of Israel . Rosh can be in Genesis 46 ; 21 , And I Quote ; '' And The Sons Benjamin were Belah , And Becher , And Ashbel , Gera , And Naaman , Ehi And Rosh , Muppim And Huppim , And Ard . '' Rosh ... Means '' Head ''' And comes from the root word Roshe meaning '' Head , Chief , Priest '' . There is also a seed for Shoa that can be found in Ezekiel 23 ; 23 And I Quote ; '' The Babylonians , And All The Chaldeans , Pekod , And Shoa . And Koa , And All The Assyrians With Them .... '' Shoa mean '' Rich '' From the root word Shaw -vah .. Which means '' To Cry Out , Shout , '' And even Amhar can be found ; But Amhar Cannot Be Found Verbatim In The Torah , It is found in writing about The Torah . Such As The Ancient Surmerian Tablets , Enuma Elish and The Gilgamesh Epic .

Rosh ( Ras ) Wives
Magdalah Sons And Daughters Of Djbouti
Nietoris Sons And Daughters Of Erithians
Abyssah Sons Abyssinians
Shoa Sons
Harrah, Kaffa, Enaarea , Gojam , From Whom The Dialect Called Amharic Or Gheez Came From .

Zacharias
09-09-2007, 09:28 PM
You claim Haile Selassie came from Rosh's ( Ras in Aramic ( Hebrew ) Meaning '' Head '' And his fourth wife whose name was Shoa , However , Ras's Third wife Abyssah ( Abyssinia ) had a fifth Son named Amhara and this is where the Amharic Dialect originated from that means that Shoa's son and amhara were living together during the time that Amharic was developing . If this is the case , What were they speaking before Amharic ? And since everyone was speaking Amharic . That means that everyone , Including Shoa's Son , Was under Amhar . Just like during Aram's times , When everyone spoke Aramic ( Hebrew ) or during Accad's ( Akkad ) Time when everyone spoke Akkadain ( Phoenician ) ..

So when you make a statemen like Haile Selassie is a descendant of David . , Show me Name For Name , He Begot Him , And He Begot Him . The same way it's done in The Scriptures in which you follow called The Bible . The same way that we make statements out of Sudan that that we are direct descendants from ;

The Mahdi And Faatimah
To Hasan And Saliha
To Faatimah And Ali
To Muhammad And Khadijah
To Kedar And Rayhannah
To Ishmael And Faatimah
To Abraham And Hagar
To Noah And Na'mah
To Adam And Eve

We give Name for Name , Husban and Wife . Generation after Genertion . If you are authentic , Then do the same thing ! Give me some Names . Start from Haile Selassie and his Father , Son , Father , Son all the way back to Menelik l and then from Menelik l straight back to David . of cource you won't be able to because you don't know how .

David Son Of Jess And Hilmah ( Ruth 4 ; 17 )
Isaac Son Of Abraham And Sarah ( Genesis 17 ; 19 ) And From Isaac Back To Abraham
Abraham Son Of Terah And Nuwna ( Genesis 17 ; 5 )
Terah Son Of Nahor And Hodesh ( Genesis 11 ; 24 )
Nuwna Wife Terah From Terah And His Wife Nuwna To Noah And His Wife Na'ama .
Noah Son Of Lamech And Kamiylah ( Genesis 5 ; 29 ) .
Na'ama Wife Of Noah And From Noah And His Wife Na'ama Straight Back To Enos Son Of Seth And Aqlimiyah .
Enos Son Of Seth And Aqlimiyah ( Genesis 4 ; 26 ) .
And Then From Enos Son Of Seth And Aqlimiyah , Through To Seth Son Of Zakar ( Adam ) And Eve ( Hawwah ) ( Genesis 4 ; 25 )
Aqlimiyah Daughter Of Eve ( Hawwah ) And Zakar ( Adam )
And Then From Enos Son Of Seth And Aqlimiyah , Through To Seth Son Od Zakar ( Adam ) And Eve ( Hawwah )
Seth Son Of Zakar ( Adam ) And Eve ( Hawwah ) ( Genesis 4 ; 25 )
Aqlimiyah Daughter Of Eve ( Hawwah ) And Zakar ( Adam )
And From Zakar ( Adam ) And His Wife Eve ( Hawwah ) Even To Their Parents Atum And Lillith ( Adam's Parents ) And Ptah And Anath ( Eve's Parents ) .
Zakar ( Adam ) Son Of Atum And Lillith ( Genesis 2 ; 19 )
Eve ( Hawwah ) Daughter Of Ptah And Anath
Atum Father Of Zakar ( Adam )
Littith Mother Of Zakar ( Adam )
Ptah Father Of Eve ( Hawwah )
Anath Mother Of Eve ( Hawwah ) And Back Pas Them To The Eloheem / Anunnaqi Who Were Responsible For Breeding you ( Refer To The Holy Tablets By M.Z.York ) .

If you can't give the names and proves it with Facts and not your Opinions and Myths or otherwise you're just not it !! You can come in and try to Sew yourself into The Vine . Or try to Sew Haile Selassie into the Vine . But I Have A Problem with The Vine you're Sewing On To . The Vine Does Not Have All Pure Threads In It . ( You Have Bleached Threads In There . ) Because if you take a look back at The Lineage that you are claiming , David and Solomon both Violated The Commandment that The Most High gave to Abraham that though they lived in The Land of Mmamre Amongst The Children Of Canaan who were of The Albino Race and they were not suppose to Marry them ? ( Genesis 24 ; 1 - 4 And 37 ; 28 ; 1 ) .

omowalejabali
09-09-2007, 09:29 PM
He was Amharic, not "Hebrew".

And the correct title is Negusa Nagast.

This is an Iythiopic title, not Hebrew.

Zacharias
09-09-2007, 09:29 PM
And Isaac commanded Jacob not to take a wife from The Canaanites in Genesis 28 ; 1 . Esau became '' Hated '' According to the scrolls of Malachi 1 ; 3 , And I Quote ; '' And I Hated ... ''Because he violated that same Law to get even with his Father Isaac for giving his brother Jacob the blessing intended for him ( Esau ) as the oldest Son ( Genesis 27 ; 36 - 40 ) . Esau and Jacob Twin Sons Of Isaac and Rebecca ( Genesis 25 ; 23 - 24 ) . Being Blind and Deceived by his wife Rebecca daughter of Bethuewl and Ziglaq . Isaac gave the blessing of Esau to his brother Jacob by accident ( Genesis 27 ; 28 - 30 ) , Rebecca wife of Isaac ( Genesis 22 ; 23 ) , Ziglaq Mother of Rebecca ....

However , In The Scrolls Of Malachi Chapter One , It specifically said that he Does Not Like Esau . Why ? Because of The Mixing Of His Seed . He constantly repeats to us throughout The Scripture '' Do Not Mix Your Seed . '' Do Not Mix Your Seed .Yet two of the greatest leaders of Your Bible . King David and his Son Solomon , Mixed their Seed .

David mixed his Seed with Bathsheba who was A Hittie ( 2Samuel 11 ; 3 ) . She was Solomon's mother . Solomon was married to Makeda of Sheba who was A Nubian , However , He also had 1,000 Wifes and Concubines and many of them were Not Of The Pure Seed . They were Moabites , Ammonites , Edomites , Zidonians , And Hittites ( 1Kings 11 ; 1-3 ) . How can A God or A Messiah Who Is Pure , Come out of Something that is Unpure and Diluted ? In other words , If you say Haile Selassie is God and he came from The seed of David how can God come from An Imperfect state of people he said Don't Marry ( Genesis 24 ; 1 - 4 ) .

David Son Of Jesse And Himah ( Ruth 4 ; 17 )
Bathsheba Wife Of David ( 2Samuel 11 ; 3 )
Solomon Son Of David And Bathsheba ( 2Samuel 5 ; 14 )
Makeda Queen Of Sheba Wife Of Solomon ( 1Kings 10 ; 1 )

You shouldn't try to sew a vine back to The Seed of David and Brag as if Purity is going to come out of David or Solomon , Because there's A Decription Of Solomon given in The Bible , Which Make Him Come Out Milky White With Black Curly or Bushy Hair .



More in next post !

omowalejabali
09-09-2007, 09:30 PM
He was Amharic, not "Hebrew".

And the correct title is Negusa Nagast.

This is an Iythiopic title, not Hebrew.

No.

And at no point of time did He claim to be.

Zacharias
09-10-2007, 01:20 AM
No.

And at no point of time did He claim to be.









Okkkkkkkk

Zacharias
09-10-2007, 01:24 AM
"Istanjaay Ila Antuk" I'd love a translation for that :)

My questions are clearly uninformed, so please bear with me:

Can Rasta be Christian?
Do Rasta follow a particular doctrine - is there a written word/book to guide them?
I know a little about JAH, and Selasie but fail to see where it fits together in terms of a religious group.

IS Rastafari a religion? If not.. what is it then?

Of course - i have read here and there - but it is rather contradictory at times - and even more so when I speak to the few Rasta I know. For example - Rasta are vegetarians, or vegans? Should they wear leather, or not?

Many say there are many "fake" Rasta out there preaching the word.. but fake compared to.. what?






Istanjaay Ila Antuk = Salutation to you

truetothecause
09-10-2007, 08:09 AM
This Post is was written for those misguided and confused souls...

smh...

based on this...i'd have no need to read further

:hearts2:

Zacharias
09-11-2007, 02:28 AM
smh...

based on this...i'd have no need to read further

:hearts2:




Very good move

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