Queen Goddess Auset, as much as I understand your passion to present and expose truth, please don't post material which isn't authorized or without permission, and/or material that clearly states:

All Rights Reserved. Copyright 2001. No part of this publication, may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted, in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, and beyond the terms and conditions of use specified for each purchaser and without prior permission of the author or publisher, Atarid Industries Press.

It would save us Moderators alot of time from deleting post, and free-up time to do other tasks. Our concerns of you using unauthorized material have been presented to you before (http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=475126&postcount=2) and you also agreed (http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=475139&postcount=3) not to do this.

As much as it bothers me to say this, if you continue to disregard our forum rules (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?p=64474#post64474), your actions will be considered a violation and your membership will be reconsidered.

Rule # 2. Do not add property to this site that belongs to someone other than yourself, without including their written permission. This includes, but is not limited to, poetry, news, articles, short stories, music, etc. If you don't have permission from the owner, please use the alternative method below:

ALTERNATIVE NUMBER ONE

BEFORE adding someone else's property to this site, request their permission.

INCLUDE that written permission in your post.

Examples below:

Slave Profits and The Roots of The Wealth Gap (http://www.destee.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8106)
Open Letter To President Bush (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10440)
How Hip Hop Destroyed Black Power (http://www.destee.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8384)
Biblical Timeline (http://www.destee.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11583)
Differences Between The Three Major Religions (http://www.destee.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5141&pagenumber=2)

ALTERNATIVE NUMBER TWO

It is not always easy to contact the owner, and receive their permission in a timely fashion. Therefore, we have provided an alternative to the above. You can include a few sentences of the property, and add a link to where it can be read in its entirety.

Examples below:

How Affirmative Action Helped George W. Bush (http://www.destee.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12784)
Whites Swim In Racial Preference (http://www.destee.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12958)
The Michigan Case and Affirmative Action (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12313)

The above is more of a hassle than just copying and pasting, but gives due respect to that which belongs to others, and anything less is not acceptable. If you are found adding property that belongs to others without the above considerations, your Membership is in jeopardy. For more information on this rule, read the following thread: Copyright Infringement - Stealing - Is Not Allowed Here! (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1345)


So please Queen Goddess Auset, respect our house rules (no exceptions). Your presence would be sorely missed if we have to revoke Membership for unauthorized use of others property.

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Thanks you for the reminder.

That is why I said in the post please remove if it is not okay to post.

Precious it is not "I" who will be missed, but the Presence of Truth, Reality, Harmony, Order, and Balance that will be missed.

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You're Welcome!:couple:

However, once a reminder is acknowledged and agreed upon, it is not the responsibility of a Moderator to continue to make the adjustments. Members must take responsibility for the information they post there after.

Truth, Reality, Harmony, Order, and Balance can't be stopped. It is a Divine force destined to prevail. It's always a priviledge to have as many vessels of Truth gathered together in the same meeting place. To be missing even one vessel is a great loss in my book. Truth, Reality, Harmony, Order, and Balance must be sort after and maintained in everything that we do.

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Our Beloved Goddess Auset ... Gurl ... now you know we LOVE you, and appreciate your high energy, enthusiam, and love for sharing information with our people. I can't even imagine you not being here with us, so we're not gonna go there! :love:

But Sister ... your response, for the Moderators to just remove the violations, isn't sufficient. First of all, the Mods have so much work to do already, and they don't get paid anything. We can't let any Members, repeatedly violate the rules, and then tell us, to clean up behind them. That's not right. In addition, it makes other Members think they can break the rules, and we'll clean up behind them too. Matter of fact, there will be Members who will say ... well, yall let Goddess do it, and there was no consequence ... or ... you gave Goddess 900 warnings, so i want 900 too. So, as you can see, what you propose is not an acceptable option for us.

It's really best Beloved, if you can just share a link to the site, a tiny bit of the information that you've found, and let us go and read it for ourselves. When people create web pages, web sites, oftentimes, they are hoping for traffic to their site. We deny them that, when we post their whole page, article, etc., on this site, as no one has to go there, because their property is here, in its entirety.

Last but not least, this community has always been about our own words, our own thoughts, encouraging Members to open up and share this with us, and not just what another has said (but of course we can link to other people's stuff, that's fine, as i do it myself on occasion).

Yes Beloved ... we want YOUR words, YOUR thoughts, YOUR wisdom, for we know you have much!

Please don't take offense at any of this, as we are simply trying to maintain the community in the most consistent manner possible.

We Love You Sister Goddess Auset !!! :grouphug:

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Destee

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Precious Ones, and you all know My Divine loving for you all. Please note precious Ones, No offense taken. Truth is never offended.

I will make every effort from now on to not post others work with out their permission.:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

Thank you Sister Queen Goddess Auset!:kiss2:

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Thank You Beloved !!! :love: :kiss: :love:

You're The Best !!! ... :grouphug:

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Destee

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WE ARE THE BEST. :qqb023:

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This is why I love this site so much, and probably learn so much from those in it. I cannot begin to explain how gratifying it is to see brothers & sisters coming together with different thoughts; expressing their different ideas; yet coming to one conclusion.........all without name calling, trashing others ideals and just being courteous to each other. All too often, either on-line or in my area, people with different ideas seem to just don't get along. They yell, shout, fight and disrespect each other; then go their separate ways not only angry, but sometimes holding grudges. This cannot be good for them personally, or as brothers & sisters.
I am a man on a journey. It is one to learn and understand who he is in this world both as a man, and as a Black man. And with all the negativity I have encountered along the way, it is so wonderful to meet those like the the brothers & sisters here in Destee. It just brings joy & peace to my spirit that there is hope for us as a people that we will one day All come together under the banner of Acceptance.

This is why I love this site so much, and probably learn so much from those in it. I cannot begin to explain how gratifying it is to see brothers & sisters coming together with different thoughts; expressing their different ideas; yet coming to one conclusion.........all without name calling, trashing others ideals and just being courteous to each other. All too often, either on-line or in my area, people with different ideas seem to just don't get along. They yell, shout, fight and disrespect each other; then go their separate ways not only angry, but sometimes holding grudges. This cannot be good for them personally, or as brothers & sisters.
I am a man on a journey. It is one to learn and understand who he is in this world both as a man, and as a Black man. And with all the negativity I have encountered along the way, it is so wonderful to meet those like the the brothers & sisters here in Destee. It just brings joy & peace to my spirit that there is hope for us as a people that we will one day All come together under the banner of Acceptance.


Couldn't agree more!

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Beloved Mighty warriors Kamau57 and Kemetkind
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Beloved Qg Purple Moons and Destee:

Questions:

If someone has already given another warrior permission to post their work on Destee, such as Minster Paul Scott, and I desire to post some of his writings, do I need to get his permission again, or can I post his writings based on the permission he has already given to you Destee to post his article?

Aslo, Brother Junious Stanton, Professor Gabriel Oyibo...and others gave me permission to post their writings on Destee/worldwide.

If others on Destee desire to post their writings on Destee, do they need to ask the above again to do so, or can they post their writings based on the permission I have obtained from them?


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Brothers Kamau47 and Kemetkind ... your love and encouragement is so appreciated ... Thank You! :grouphug:

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Destee

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Beloved Qg Purple Moons and Destee:

Questions:

If someone has already given another warrior permission to post their work on Destee, such as Minster Paul Scott, and I desire to post some of his writings, do I need to get his permission again, or can I post his writings based on the permission he has already given to you Destee to post his article?

Aslo, Brother Junious Stanton, Professor Gabriel Oyibo...and others gave me permission to post their writings on Destee/worldwide.

If others on Destee desire to post their writings on Destee, do they need to ask the above again to do so, or can they post their writings based on the permission I have obtained from them?


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Beloved Sister Goddess Auset ... let me get right to your questions ... :love:

The answers have varied Beloved, as it relates to our specific rule.

For example, in 2003, i requested and received permission (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14660) from The Black Commentator (http://blackcommentator.com), to post their articles here. My specific request was for one article, and Mr. Peter Gamble generously and graciously gave permission to re-print all that i wanted. As a result of this, when a Member posts an article from The Black Commentator without including permission (and it has happened often), i don't get too vexed because i feel we have such permission.

In addition, even though i originally received The Black Commentator's permission in 2003, when i wanted to post another of their articles in 2004 (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22967) and 2006 (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43096), i reposted the permission, so all could see it, with their property ... as they may have never seen the original permission from 2003.

In 2002, i requested and received permission from Authors Meizhu Lui and Rose Brewer, to post their article Slave Profits and the Roots of the Wealth Gap (http://www.destee.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8106). In this situation, they gave me express permission to post it, this one article. So if i wanted to post some other piece of their work, i need separate permission for that.

In 2002, i requested and received permission from Brother Minister Paul Scott, to post his article here, How Hip Hop Destroyed Black Power (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8384). While i feel confident that he'd not mind any of his work to be posted here, he only gave permission for this one article. So if i were going to post more of his work, i'd need to get permission for that.

Brother Junious Stanton was a columnist here, and i absolutely know that he does not mind any of his work being posted here. I knew this before you had him send me permission.

But see ... it's not just about the site having permission for the work to be here. To me, it's about us respecting each other, and that which belongs to each other. I know my neighbor would not mind, if i borrowed their lawn mower, but that doesn't mean i should take it without asking.

Even though all the folk above, work hard to create information for us to read and learn from, we should not overlook them. We should encourage them, honor them, let them know that we thought so highly of their words, appreciate their work, that we'd like to post them here or there. This could be just what they need in their day, to create again tomorrow. If we just use their stuff, without their knowledge or permission, they don't know. I have written to folk, asking for their permission, and they are surprised at my request. They've become so accustomed to folk just using their stuff, without a word or a peep, they were shocked that i took the time to ask.

Requesting permission from the owner of the property, does so much positive stuff, that i don't understand how we so easily forsake it. It's almost (to me), like a lesson we all should have learned as children. You don't take someone else's stuff, without asking them. Especially if you value the person, appreciate them, then you want to likewise respect them (and those things that belong to them).

We (i) were talking in another thread about Black Folk Killing Black Folk. If we want this to stop, then we must value each other, and that which belongs to each other. We will never overcome the killing, if we can't respect and honor each other, on this very basic level. The solution to the killing, and most of our problems, stems from us not loving and respecting each other properly.

Okay ... let me get back on topic ...

If someone gives you permission, it does not automatically mean they have given me permission. It is only right and proper, for me to get my own permission from that person. Using the lawn mower analogy again, just because your neighbor says you can borrow his lawn mower, doesn't automatically mean, that i can borrow it too.

Each and every one of us, must respect each and every one of us, independent of each other.

Though, as mentioned above, i don't cringe quite so much when a Member fails to get permission, and i know we have it.

I'd rather that we each have our own permission, which is more encouragement to the Sister or Brother that owns the property.

Also Beloved ... one last note ... please don't have the authors send their permission directly to me. The rules require that you include their permission, with their property, in the thread, for all to see that the rule has been complied with. I will see and read it when everyone else does.

If you have any more questions, or i didn't answer your first ones sufficiently ... please let me know.

Much Love and Peace Beloved! :grouphug:

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Destee

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Beloved Qg Destee. Much thanks for the detail explanation. Smooches and hugs.
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Beloved Ones:

Is it okay to post comments made by people when I post a link on Destee from the website?

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Beloved Ones:

Is it okay to post comments made by people when I post a link on Destee from the website?

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Sister Goddess Auset ... we prefer and encourage Members to post their own words, thoughts, etc.

If you're inclined to post the words of others, we expect their permission to be posted, with their property.

If you can't get their permission, and would like to share the information with us anyway, please only include a snippet (a few sentences, paragraph, etc.), and link us to where we can read it in its entirety.

Posting someone's entire article, web page, etc., then linking to their site, does not equal permission to post it here. Posting a snippet doesn't equal permission either, but at least they get a visit to their site (more traffic), if one wants to read the entire article.

Again, we'd prefer your words, or include the property owner's permission with their words.

All of the above is outlined in more detail (with examples) on our rules page - #2 (http://destee.com/rules).

We appreciate your desire to understand the rule Sister. If you have more questions, just ask.

Much Love and Peace.

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Destee

ps ... i've combined these 2 threads, as they are the same topic / discussion.

For example, in 2003, i requested and received permission (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14660) from The Black Commentator (http://blackcommentator.com), to post their articles here. My specific request was for one article, and Mr. Peter Gamble generously and graciously gave permission to re-print all that i wanted. As a result of this, when a Member posts an article from The Black Commentator without including permission (and it has happened often), i don't get too vexed because i feel we have such permission.

In addition, even though i originally received The Black Commentator's permission in 2003, when i wanted to post another of their articles in 2004 (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22967) and 2006 (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43096), i reposted the permission, so all could see it, with their property ... as they may have never seen the original permission from 2003.

Peace and Blessings Family,

I want to share a thought with you all, regarding the topic of this thread, and the text above.

It was in 2003 when Mr. Peter Gamble gave me permission to post their articles here. As a result, i've felt somewhat more comfortable, when i see one of their articles and permission is not included ... but i don't think i should feel comfortable.

Sometime recently, maybe a year or so ago, The Black Commentator started a Subscription Program (http://www.blackcommentator.com/paid_subscribers/frequently_asked_questions.html) to help offset costs. As a Subscriber, one is given complete access to all of their articles / stories. They still have the current story free and available to all, at no cost.

So ... even though Mr. Gamble gave me permission in 2003, their situation has changed. I'm sure they don't want us hindering their opportunity to offset costs, by making their articles available for free, over here ... when folk gotta pay for them over there.

We must be considerate of each other, as we don't want to hinder a Sister or Brother's ability or plan, to make a living.

So in the future, and for the record ... everyone should post permission, if they are including an entire article.

I've not spoke to Mr. Gamble again, and i probably should, to verify this, but it seems a logical assumption to me.

It's amazing, this has been one of the most challenging rules to get the Family to comply with. We've received so much resistance, from the very beginning, to now, about it. I think it's because the nature of the Internet, has this air, that everything is free, but there is nothing free. It costs money (if only the time it takes the author to create the work) to make these articles available. No matter where they are on the Internet, authoring such great articles is hard work, and we should want our people compensated for that and their due diligence. That's another topic close to my heart, but i won't digress.

Again ... let's not hinder a Sister or Brother's ability or plan to make a living from their work ... in fact, let's help them, by financially supporting those endeavors we think highly of ... or else they too will be a Black Web Site That Died (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29677).

Much Love and Peace.

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Destee