Peace and Blessings Family,

I'm under the impression that most are like me, getting their first perm at an early age, but i might be wrong.

I've phrased the question in a way so that Brothers can respond too, telling us the age they first noticed a Black Woman ... their Mother, Sister, Aunt, etc. ... with permed / pressed hair.

I think we are guilty of inflicting self hate upon our children, boys and girls, by allowing this to continue.

Teaching them at young ages, to think what God gave them (or their Mommas, Sisters, etc.) is ugly.

I've mentioned this a time or two in previous posts, but i have no real data to back up my opinion.

So let's tally some up ... shall we ? :)


VOTE IN THE POLL ABOVE


FOR THE SISTERS :

What age did you get your first perm / press?

FOR THE BROTHERS :

What age did you first notice a Sister with permed / pressed hair?

Please vote in the poll above, and leave comments below if you'd like.

Thanks Yall!

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Destee

I got my first perm at 13 yrs old. My very first job was an assistant to a beautician. This gave me the opportunity to get my hair done for free. I remember begging my mother to let me have it done. She perferred the hot press and had never had a perm until she was atleast in her late 30's. My first experience with the hotcomb, was at the tender age 7.

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I noticed it when I was in the third grade. Now I see them at 5 years of age with one.

I'm likely to be an exception to the rule - but i did not even know these things existed until after 20, when I was in Uni, in Africa. I should add that I grew up rather isolated from black society (NW USA), and have a very diverse family - more than half my siblings having been adopted from various racial backgrounds - we differ in shades and hair types - of relevence here is my sister, who is darkest of us all - but with straight hair. Also note, these things I never questioned growing up - it just was. It never occured to me to question why some hair is different than others, or skin tones, or anything else along that same vein.

In Uni, is when I saw that first fateful pink box, and chemical smell, from a fellow student who was "home perming" her hair in her dorm room. (Its around the same time I learnt about skin lighteners in a tube.) I also learnt that only a select few permed their hair - those who could afford it - but the results were ghastly (in my eye) and I didnt give it a second glance.

I've been living in the EU for a couple of years now and decided to make some serious changes about myself and my surrounds before I hit 40 - You only live once, and I want to try out a number of new things - having long hair being one of them. I did not want straight hair - just.. a large stylish afro.. but I believe my request was misinterpreted because I'm currently suffering some interesting squiggly waves on my head - soon to be resolved.

But at age 36 - that as the first time I was exposed to the black hair industry - saw hair being sold, and sewn onto peoples scalps. What an oddity! hahaha -I find it fascinating indeed. I see black woman differently now - mentally trying to determine if their hair is natural or not - and knowing what lengths some go through to lose the fro.

Absolutely no disrespect intended to those who buy from that market. Sincerely. I do not consider it denying heritage any more than the other western fashions we've adopted. I do, however, find it very interesting - and ohhhh.. do I love my fro more and cant wait to get it back. :)

I got my first perm at 13 yrs old. My very first job was an assistant to a beautician. This gave me the opportunity to get my hair done for free. I remember begging my mother to let me have it done. She perferred the hot press and had never had a perm until she was atleast in her late 30's. My first experience with the hotcomb, was at the tender age 7.

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See Sister Purple ... how you gonna mess up your vote, and you the first one vote'n ... :lol:

You shooda chose under 10, since your first hotcomb experiece was at 7 ... right?

Is my question kinda confuse'n ?? ... is that how come i aint gett'n no voters? ... :(

You so krazee ... i love you !!! :kiss:

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Destee

I noticed it when I was in the third grade. Now I see them at 5 years of age with one.

Thanks Brother Keita ... why didn't you vote in the poll ?

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Destee

I'm likely to be an exception to the rule - but i did not even know these things existed until after 20, when I was in Uni, in Africa. I should add that I grew up rather isolated from black society (NW USA), and have a very diverse family - more than half my siblings having been adopted from various racial backgrounds - we differ in shades and hair types - of relevence here is my sister, who is darkest of us all - but with straight hair. Also note, these things I never questioned growing up - it just was. It never occured to me to question why some hair is different than others, or skin tones, or anything else along that same vein.

In Uni, is when I saw that first fateful pink box, and chemical smell, from a fellow student who was "home perming" her hair in her dorm room. (Its around the same time I learnt about skin lighteners in a tube.) I also learnt that only a select few permed their hair - those who could afford it - but the results were ghastly (in my eye) and I didnt give it a second glance.

I've been living in the EU for a couple of years now and decided to make some serious changes about myself and my surrounds before I hit 40 - You only live once, and I want to try out a number of new things - having long hair being one of them. I did not want straight hair - just.. a large stylish afro.. but I believe my request was misinterpreted because I'm currently suffering some interesting squiggly waves on my head - soon to be resolved.

But at age 36 - that as the first time I was exposed to the black hair industry - saw hair being sold, and sewn onto peoples scalps. What an oddity! hahaha -I find it fascinating indeed. I see black woman differently now - mentally trying to determine if their hair is natural or not - and knowing what lengths some go through to lose the fro.

Absolutely no disrespect intended to those who buy from that market. Sincerely. I do not consider it denying heritage any more than the other western fashions we've adopted. I do, however, find it very interesting - and ohhhh.. do I love my fro more and cant wait to get it back. :)

Sister Zulile ... i think you're blessed, to be an exception. Thanks for sharing.

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Destee

See Sister Purple ... how you gonna mess up your vote, and you the first one vote'n ... :lol:

You shooda chose under 10, since your first hotcomb experiece was at 7 ... right?

Is my question kinda confuse'n ?? ... is that how come i aint gett'n no voters? ... :(

You so krazee ... i love you !!! :kiss:

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Destee

oops, you got me!:lol:

I done got confuseded! You said: "FOR THE SISTERS :

What age did you get your first perm / relaxer?"

I'd totally blocked out the pressed hair and focused on the perm. :em2700:

Love ya too Sister!

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oops, you got me!:lol:

I done got confuseded! You said: "FOR THE SISTERS :

What age did you get your first perm / relaxer?"

I'd totally blocked out the pressed hair and focused on the perm. :em2700:

Love ya too Sister!

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Ohhhhhhhhhh okay Sister Purple ... you're right ... i did say that, and i didn't mean to say that!

I meant to say ... what age did you get your first perm / press !!!

Okay ... i'm finna change that now ... sorry Sister, my fault, and Thanks! :grouphug:

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Destee

I too could have payed more attention to the title of the thread. You did mentioned it there. Pressed hair its so easy to restore back to it's natural state, and permed hair seems to never go back to normal. Even after you go natural for some years, it just isn't the same anymore.

Nonetheless, the mind conditioning of whats considered pretty and beautiful is still there.:SuN024:

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Right Sister Purple ... pressed hair isn't permanently changed, but c'mon now ... putting a hot piece of iron next to the tender scalp of a little Black Girl ... that's child abuse! It's just short of actually branding someone. If any one of us were to put a scalding, fire hot piece of iron, next to the scalp of a little white girl ... we'd be under the prison!

But it's okay to do to little Black girls.

I don't think many folk press their baby's hair anymore, it's just too traumatizing and devastating.

Have you read the Pressing Comb Memories (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45649) thread yet ... :lol: ... it is soooo funnee!

Love You!

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Destee

Well, was about seven I think when I first got my hair permed.....it was napy as he** and my mom got tired of combing it...but hey, I loved my perm then and I love my perm now...I grew up thinking that it was good to get a perm and bad to walk around with your hair jacked up( not to say that it wasn't good to have natural)

It's not that I HATE natural hair...on the contrary, I believe that locs, twists, and anything natural is a beautiful thing....it's just not for me!!!!

*Sweet*

Right Sister Purple ... pressed hair isn't permanently changed, but c'mon now ... putting a hot piece of iron next to the tender scalp of a little Black Girl ... that's child abuse! It's just short of actually branding someone. If any one of us were to put a scalding, fire hot piece of iron, next to the scalp of a little white girl ... we'd be under the prison!

But it's okay to do to little Black girls.

I don't think many folk press their baby's hair anymore, it's just too traumatizing and devastating.

Have you read the Pressing Comb Memories (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45649) thread yet ... :lol: ... it is soooo funnee!

Love You!

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Destee

Yes Sister, I've read it. lol
That thread definately had it's press and curl highs and lows.:lol:
The encouragement you're giving us Sisters for accepting our natural
beauty is beautiful in itself. Its been about a year since my last perm, and I must confess I haven't totally embraced it in its completeness. I keep it braided with the extentions. The ends of my hair still have some of the processed hair on them. I could simply cut it off but I decided to let it fall off on it's on.

I'm considering locking it, but that still up in the air. I do like change from time to time, and locking may be to permanent. Idunno. time will tell.

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oops, you got me!:lol:

I done got confuseded! You said: "FOR THE SISTERS :

What age did you get your first perm / relaxer?"

I'd totally blocked out the pressed hair and focused on the perm. :em2700:

Love ya too Sister!

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ok...i voted yet after i started reading the thread...the first post in fact, I see that i chose the wrong answer for myself. My first 'press' i was well under 10 and prolly had my first perm before 15.
So Destee...you'll have to make adjustments for my vote...

That pressing experience is one I'd much rather forget cause back then, they used LARD for hair grease. ughhhhh...I don't wanna think about it!

Well, was about seven I think when I first got my hair permed.....it was napy as he** and my mom got tired of combing it...but hey, I loved my perm then and I love my perm now...I grew up thinking that it was good to get a perm and bad to walk around with your hair jacked up( not to say that it wasn't good to have natural)

It's not that I HATE natural hair...on the contrary, I believe that locs, twists, and anything natural is a beautiful thing....it's just not for me!!!!

*Sweet*

Sister SwtT ... thanks for sharing and voting. I understand how you feel about perms, because i felt that way too. I absolutely loved my perm, especially a new one, all nice and freshly done. Like you, i got my first one at a young age. I think that's key to the way we collectively feel about them.

The seeds are planted young in us, rooted deeply by the time we're adult women, making it very difficult for anyone to turn us against our fake straight hair.

The message is clear ... what God gave us is jacked up ... making fake better than real.

I'm suggesting that is not true, that we in fact have the very best stuff, and have been tricked, bamboozled, and led astray.

I Love You Sister ... permed hair and all !! :love:

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Destee

Yes Sister, I've read it. lol
That thread definately had it's press and curl highs and lows.:lol:
The encouragement you're giving us Sisters for accepting our natural
beauty is beautiful in itself. Its been about a year since my last perm, and I must confess I haven't totally embraced it in its completeness. I keep it braided with the extentions. The ends of my hair still have some of the processed hair on them. I could simply cut it off but I decided to let it fall off on it's on.

I'm considering locking it, but that still up in the air. I do like change from time to time, and locking may be to permanent. Idunno. time will tell.

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Sister Purple ... please share some of your pressing comb memories in that thread Gurl! Oh my gosh, i need a good laugh, and reading that thread always gives me one! Whew! Spicy is krazee funnee in there! :lol:

In regard to the encouragement that i might be giving to Sisters to accept their natural selves, their natural hair ... it really isn't about Sisters, in particular, that i'm targeting ... it's the babies. See, if it were just Sisters, the current adult generation, making personal choices for themselves, i wouldn't have much to say. Grown folk do what they wanna do. But since i've gone natural, it's like a bigger understanding, a bigger picture has come into view for me, and i see the babies. I see the generations coming behind us, with no hope of loving themselves, unless their Mommas teach them how.

It's so deep Sister Purple. If adult Sisters could straighten their hair, and it not affect what their children think of themselves, i wouldn't care. But that's not how it works. The children watch us. The children learn what is beautiful from us. Our sons see us straightening our hair like white women, and then we wonder why Black Men want white women. I think this feeds that. If Black Women were primping in the mirror, fixing their 'fros, looking all pretty, smiling at themselves, their Sons and Daughters would know that this is what beautiful is. But instead, we primp with straight hair. Run to the beautician to kill our natural coils, spending billions a year on making ourselves something other than what we are. We plant these seeds in the babies.

It's got to stop, and we have the ability to stop this ... right here and now.

So ... if a Sister is encouraged for herself, that is a blessing, but the greatest blessing of all, is the message she sends her little Black Babies ... her Sons and Daughters, and the generations behind them ... that they are BEAUTIFUL just as God made them.

In regard to fully accepting your own personal transition ... that's something else i know about ... whew! If i hadn't gone through it myself, i would not have a clue as to the challenge it is. It's amazing how hard it is to accept and love yourself as you are. There's no commercials with products helping us know what and how to do with our own stuff. There's no images in magazines, there's nothing. You're almost alone in this walk, going totally against the grain. It took me all of this year and a half to get where i am, and i'm probably not all the way there yet myself. Probably not embracing my coils in their fullness ... i don't know. How can i be, after denying them for the vast majority of my life. It really is a process, but you can be encouraged Sister, that you are on the road, and with the passing of more time, you'll get further down it. Your babies are seeing you now. They are looking at Momma wondering, why Momma wearing her hair like that? :eeek: ... You're already planting the seeds in the babies, and that's the goal.

I see how hard it is for us to love our own selves, and we're adults. We just can't leave this task to our babies, for them to teach coming generations. This hard work is for us to do, and we can't forsake or deny it. If we do, all we're really doing, is giving it (the hard work) to our babies, or their babies to do.

What Loving Momma does that?

I Love You Sister Purple! :kiss:

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Destee

ok...i voted yet after i started reading the thread...the first post in fact, I see that i chose the wrong answer for myself. My first 'press' i was well under 10 and prolly had my first perm before 15.
So Destee...you'll have to make adjustments for my vote...

That pressing experience is one I'd much rather forget cause back then, they used LARD for hair grease. ughhhhh...I don't wanna think about it!

Sister True ... i can't really change the votes, but that's okay because your vote still falls in line with my theory, that these seeds are planted in us young.

Oh Sister True, please share your pressing comb memories! I'm already feeling a laugh come on at the mention of lard ... :lol: ... i wanna read the story ... please consider adding it to the Pressing Comb Memories (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45649) thread!

Thanks for sharing and voting Sister.

Much Love and Peace.

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Destee

True story Sister Destee.

At one point, I was wearing my own hair braided. All with the new growth and ends all straigtened. The conditioning I had done to my children already and the pressured influence society has on them, had them questioning my decision on wearing my hair all natural and braided up.

Sistahhhh, when my daughter took her own hard earned money to get my hair in some box braids, I folded like a cardboard box. Now, she's been at me for sometime about my braids all twisted up in a fishbone like style. Talking bout, "Ma, soon as I get some money I'm gonna get your hair braided. Let me do this. I want to do this for you." lol

I had wore my own hair about 5 months. I would tell her, I don't care what nobody else thinks. It's my head and I like it. I definately can relate to it being a process. Taking it a step further as I go. But "whew!" I hope this natural decision reaches my children in enough time to bring about the natural beauty in my oneday grandchildren.

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True story Sister Destee.

At one point, I was wearing my own hair braided. All with the new growth and ends all straigtened. The conditioning I had done to my children already and the pressured influence society has on them, had them questioning my decision on wearing my hair all natural and braided up.

Sistahhhh, when my daughter took her own hard earned money to get my hair in some box braids, I folded like a cardboard box. Now, she's been at me for sometime about my braids all twisted up in a fishbone like style. Talking bout, "Ma, soon as I get some money I'm gonna get your hair braided. Let me do this. I want to do this for you." lol

I had wore my own hair about 5 months. I would tell her, I don't care what nobody else thinks. It's my head and I like it. I definately can relate to it being a process. Taking it a step further as I go. But "whew!" I hope this natural decision reaches my children in enough time to bring about the natural beauty in my oneday grandchildren.

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Sister Purple ... Happy Birthday Sweetie ... :kiss: :love: :kiss: :love: :kiss:

Thanks for sharing your story with us. I had the same kind of thing happen. My children were so upset with me, for cutting my hair. For months after the fact, my son would offer to pay for me to get a perm. I never took him up on the offer, as i was pretty determined at that point. I wanted to be able to get to know what God had given me. My own natural hair, in it's natural state. Now, he only offers to get my hair permed in jest. He really likes my afro now. Both of my children do.

But yes Sister Purple, it seems the longer i wear my hair this way, the more determined i am. The more clearly i can see what has been done to us. You know, when a Momma okays something, that's like God speaking. That is how they have tricked us so thoroughly. We, the Mommas, have told the children what is okay ... long straight stringy hair ... for generations. Now we, you and i, and all the Sisters of today and tomorrow, have to work to turn this around. Have to now convince the babies, that they are beautiful just the way God made them. Going totally against the grain, against all that we see in the media. It is not going to be easy.

You know what though Sister Purple, there are so many blessings in this walk. I know how moved your heart had to feel, when your Daughter offered to pay to get your hair done. I know Sister, because i felt the same thing when my son offered it to me. It was like a gift, from your baby. That she cared so much about her Momma, that she would sacrifice her own little money, for you. That is sooooo beautiful! :) I know how your heart felt. I can surely understand crumbling under such a gesture. It is every Mother's hope, that their children will love them properly, and that is evidence of it. They don't know that what they're asking for, is further manipulation of our minds. They don't know. We didn't know. Our Mothers didn't know. So of course the babies don't know. All they know is their Momma isn't looking like she's always looked, like everybody else looks ... and they wanna fix that! So Beautiful!

We gotta help our babies know better ... help them see ... that there is more to us than what the Europeans have allowed. That we've been cheated out of our own birthright ... what was given to us by God. Stay forever encouraged Sister Purple, because i know you are ALREADY making a difference in the minds of your children. I believe that we, as Mothers, teach our chldren what to want (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48334), by our very actions. They see you. Even if it doesn't appear as though they are moving their minds and Spirits in that direction ... they can't help it ... they are going to follow you ... because you are their Mother ... the only God they know.

This reminds me of the story of the prodigal son, even if they go astray, they will come back to what you have taught them. So it's working Sister. Don't you dare underestimate the power you have in the lives of those babies.

You know ... i got my Daughter her first perm years ago, before i knew any better. Now that i'm natural, she's still wearing her perm, but we talk all the time. It's a process and i know she has to do it because it's sincerely what she believes is best for her. I know that day is coming, and i'm patient with her. She loves her Momma, and trusts her Momma, so she's automatically moving in the same direction i go. I was so surprised and blessed one day, here in the chat room when she was visiting. She was on the mic with me, and shocked me by saying ... "I will not perm my children's hair" ... children yet to be born ... i was so surprised Sister Purple! This from the Daughter that told me not to come to her graduation bald-headed (i had just cut my hair)! Of course i went, bald and all! :D But from that time to this, she has grown so much ... just from watching me. And not really even watching me, as we are miles apart. Another indicator of the power Mothers have. Even with many miles between us, i am probably one of the greatest influences in her life.

The message has already reached your children, and will grow stronger and deeper in them, with every day that passes.

Stay forever encouraged My Dear Darling Sister Purple ... i'm so proud of you! ... :grouphug:

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Destee

Thank you for Birthday shout out Sister!:love:

You know ... i got my Daughter her first perm years ago, before i knew any better. Now that i'm natural, she's still wearing her perm, but we talk all the time. It's a process and i know she has to do it because it's sincerely what she believes is best for her. I know that day is coming, and i'm patient with her. She loves her Momma, and trusts her Momma, so she's automatically moving in the same direction i go. I was so surprised and blessed one day, here in the chat room when she was visiting. She was on the mic with me, and shocked me by saying ... "I will not perm my children's hair" ... children yet to be born ... i was so surprised Sister Purple! This from the Daughter that told me not to come to her graduation bald-headed (i had just cut my hair)! Of course i went, bald and all! But from that time to this, she has grown so much ... just from watching me. And not really even watching me, as we are miles apart. Another indicator of the power Mothers have. Even with many miles between us, i am probably one of the greatest influences in her life.

The message has already reached your children, and will grow stronger and deeper in them, with every day that passes.

I know thats right Sister Destee!

Me not perming my hair has already begun to trinkle on down to my daughters. My oldest said she won't be perming her hair anymore either. It's been about 6mths for her but I'm watching. She plans to where her box braids though, but its a start in the direction I want to see her going, and my youngest doesn't have a choice at this time in her young life to decide. So yes, it's definately taking form.

Just the other day I was looking at more information on locs. I have to consider thick ones from smaller ones, and styles too. The messed up part is, most Loc consultants specialist nearest location to me is NYC or further up north. Therefore when I do decide which size and style I want, I'll have to do some traveling to get it just how I want it. In the meantime, I got new growth like crazy and anticipating the moment when I convert fully.

Thank you Sister Destee for sharing the importance of Loving Ones Natural self!:qqb015:

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Sister Destee, a couple of days ago, I took my youngest daughter cornrows out (9yrs old), slapped a hair band around the front, picked the back out, and she absolutely loved it! Yanno the next day she was primpin and combing, getting it together for herself. She was telling me how much everybody loved it...and the smile on her face was priceless.:em0100: :qqb006:

She loved her natural self!:terrific:

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Sister Destee, a couple of days ago, I took my youngest daughter cornrows out (9yrs old), slapped a hair band around the front, picked the back out, and she absolutely loved it! Yanno the next day she was primpin and combing, getting it together for herself. She was telling me how much everybody loved it...and the smile on her face was priceless.:em0100: :qqb006:

She loved her natural self!:terrific:

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Ohhhhhh Sister Purple ... this is soooo good !!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY !!! :jumping: :jumping: :jumping:

Yesssss ... that's how it is !!! It's really a BEAUTIFUL AND WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE!

Black Women have a beauty all their own, that cannot be (easily) duplicated.

Imagine if the majority of the perm stuff in the store, was bought by white women, to make an afro!

Why not ... who's idea was it ... for us to look like them ... ??! Please.

There is a blessing in all of this though.

Black Men did not respond long-term and collectively, like Black Women did.

They did try to put it on them though. As far back as Pullman Porters, Black Men had to do something with their hair, in order to work and feed their Family. Some Brothers got caught up in presses, perms, curls, but it didn't stick. Today, most Brothers are natural (or bald), and that is a blessing.

Imagine if we had to get both our sons and daughters, to love their natural selves! :ohmy:

Big Ups to the Brothers ... for their success in this area! :toast:

Big Ups to your daughter, for having such a great experience with her own natural self! Tell her it only gets better! What i find amazing, is the Black People that are drawn to me, sorta kinda like a magnet ... when i'm out and about and my fro is all over everywhere ... it's almost like ... they wanna say ... "can i touch it?" ... and i'm whispering to them ... :gossip: ... you got the same thing !!!! :lol:

Thanks for sharing Sister Purple ... kiss the babies for me ... :kiss:

Love You!

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Destee

Thank you for Birthday shout out Sister!:love:



I know thats right Sister Destee!

Me not perming my hair has already begun to trinkle on down to my daughters. My oldest said she won't be perming her hair anymore either. It's been about 6mths for her but I'm watching. She plans to where her box braids though, but its a start in the direction I want to see her going, and my youngest doesn't have a choice at this time in her young life to decide. So yes, it's definately taking form.

Just the other day I was looking at more information on locs. I have to consider thick ones from smaller ones, and styles too. The messed up part is, most Loc consultants specialist nearest location to me is NYC or further up north. Therefore when I do decide which size and style I want, I'll have to do some traveling to get it just how I want it. In the meantime, I got new growth like crazy and anticipating the moment when I convert fully.

Thank you Sister Destee for sharing the importance of Loving Ones Natural self!:qqb015:

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Uh Oh Sister Purple ... i missed this other post ... :)

Sister Sister Sister ... i've not gone to anyone professionally yet. I'm real particular about who i let in my hair. My previous hair dresser, oh my gosh, we'd been together for 20+ years, her being a Mother to me, loving, gentle, and kind .. not only me, but my daughters too, shoot ... everybody that had the pleasure of knowing her. Not just her, but her Family too! It's been a Family Affair, all because of her! It was like a spiritual experience, going to get my hair done, having her in my head. She doesn't do any natural hair styles, but she did start me on this journey, cutting my hair for me, even though she didn't wanna do it ... I Love Her !!! I Love You Ms. Moore !!! :love:

But i wanna find someone. My Sister could braid my hair, but she doesn't wanna be bothered with me. But you know what Sister Purple. It's really krazee how they came in wanting to regulate braiding (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42751) our hair. All brand new, like we just started doing this or something. Our Mommas been braiding our hair all the time. Braiding is like Bathing, when your hair is natural. This is our culture, and we are being required to pay to do it. You know there are a lot of Sisters that know how to braid, but can't even take advantage of their talent, easily.

I don't really know what box braids are Sister. If you can find a picture and post it here, that would be great! :wink:

I do want some braids though, just plain ol' regular braids ... hair parted with tiny little squares, all individual braids ... or maybe some twists ... iono.

Did you see this post (http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=476640&postcount=13) about Locs, from Brother IrayOne? He shared a lot of good information about Locs.

Thanks again for sharing!

Love You! :love:

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Destee

I was under 10, maybe around 8 or so. But a former friend put a kiddie relaxer in her daughter's hair at 2 years old because it took her too long to comb it. Smh.
And when I think about the toxic ingredients in those things it is definitely child abuse and self-abuse if you willingly do it to yourself. The skin absorbs all of that junk.

Me I was getting the hot comb at like 6 and 7, that was bcuz my granmomma didn't know how ta do no hair...... but my sister has had a perm and she is only 5
Her momma gon' say...she said that she wanted straight curls.
any way I put under Fifteen because I can't remember what age I was at
I think Middle school so maybe around 6th grade...I was 11
But it could have been Elemantary

And now I have cut it all off...well about a year ago
and when I say all...whooooo lol
But I am happy w/ the results
Hey MoM....NO MORE.....Just For Meeeeeeeee(in JFM Tune)