beyonce too black and too Ghetto for sports Illustrated readers

"Outraged Sports Illustrated readers are flooding the SI offices with angry phone calls and emails demanding subscription cancellations. The furor erupted after Sports Illustrated's celebrated annual "Swimsuit Issue" hit the stands with Beyonce on the cover and an inside shot of a smug Kanye West gripping a models derriere.

Angry comments have been posted on this site as well as other blogs and message boards. "Is this the Swimsuit Issue or the Ghetto issue?" read one post. A source inside the SI mail room emailed me to say longtime subscribers are angry. "The calls are nonstop," she wrote. "Some of these guys have been subscribing to Sports Illustrated for years just so they can get the Swimsuit Issue before it hits the stands. This is like blasphemy to most of them who don't know who Beyonce or Kanye are."

A local newspaper reporter who asked not to be identified said, "So many women grew up identifying with the models in the Swimsuit Issue. They don't see themselves in Beyonce. SI has made a mockery of their core demographic with this issue."

So far, SI hasn't commented publicly on the complaints. But insiders say SI is discreetly emailing members of the mainstream media emphasizing the point that the Swimsuit Issue is a "Music Issue". But critics are asking how can it be both? "They should make up their minds," wrote one angry poster on a sports-related board. "Either it's the Swimsuit Issue or the Rap Issue. SI can cancel my subscription!"


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The question is do we know any of them women on the cover...half the time no...most sports illustrated readers wouldnt mind seeing jessica simpson or paris hilton on there..but they have a problem with beyonce....pathetic...

What did folks say when Tyra appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated? Some think she's just as ghetto. I guess Bey is too "stacked" for some men's tastes.

What did folks say when Tyra appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated? Some think she's just as ghetto. I guess Bey is too "stacked" for some men's tastes.

Believe me SI did there research. They know Beyonce is the ish with most men across the color spectrum. And all these new sport mags are popping up which is catering to what cats are really feeling 'The Brown Sugar' SI was just sticking to its ppl and taking a lost. SI was for those men who like women who bodies are shaped like under aged girls. As long as they are a certain age no matter how young they look(and most of those models have bodies that barely look like they reached pubity) They can cater to their unhealthy fantasies of being with under aged girls. Plus the pecentage of that core auduience they have is shrinking as we all know. If I was in that core audience I'd be real upset too. I'd feel like the other side is taking over. I could go on but it gets real ugly after that. :lol:

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alot of white mature men like tyra banks and beyonce....but yea most SI readers want them skinny 70lbs white girls with no butt or breast...

Just some people scared their favorite pure white magazine is going to be taken over with black faces. I had a feeling someone was going to complain. :great:

White boys love Beyonce, she's one of the few Black female celebrities that they will openly lust over. On the contrary, I thought Beyonce was considered 'safe'. I'm surprised

So now they can stop with the crap about racism being a thing of the past. After this outburst no I'm not going to forget slavery.

Plus, it's really no big deal to me if white men like my body. Polly don't want no cracker anyway.

Beyonce Ghetto??? I thought they chose her cause of her blond hair......

Beyonce Ghetto??? I thought they chose her cause of her blond hair......

Ghetto to the WM who buy the mag, probably.

Believe me SI did there research. They know Beyonce is the ish with most men across the color spectrum. And all these new sport mags are popping up which is catering to what cats are really feeling 'The Brown Sugar' SI was just sticking to its ppl and taking a lost. SI was for those men who like women who bodies are shaped like under aged girls. As long as they are a certain age no matter how young they look(and most of those models have bodies that barely look like they reached pubity) They can cater to their unhealthy fantasies of being with under aged girls. Plus the pecentage of that core auduience they have is shrinking as we all know. If I was in that core audience I'd be real upset too. I'd feel like the other side is taking over. I could go on but it gets real ugly after that. :lol:

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What kills me is the fact that they were barely complaining about Tyra gracing the cover back in 96-97, who has the same "urban" around the way 'divatude' as Bey. IMO, Bey looks better than Tyra, so the disdain for Bey MUST be because she is "stacked" unlike the typical Sports Illustrated models. Maybe her affiliation with Jay-Z has something to do with it.

Believe me SI did there research. They know Beyonce is the ish with most men across the color spectrum. And all these new sport mags are popping up which is catering to what cats are really feeling 'The Brown Sugar' SI was just sticking to its ppl and taking a lost. SI was for those men who like women who bodies are shaped like under aged girls. As long as they are a certain age no matter how young they look(and most of those models have bodies that barely look like they reached pubity) They can cater to their unhealthy fantasies of being with under aged girls. Plus the pecentage of that core auduience they have is shrinking as we all know. If I was in that core audience I'd be real upset too. I'd feel like the other side is taking over. I could go on but it gets real ugly after that. :lol:

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Hmmmmmm! Did you just hit the nail on the head?
The representation of what a real women looks like (curvy and all) hits the front cover, and men are in a uproar? Sounds like some old funky Ancient Greek lusting going on with SI readers. The lusting for women who look like little boys, silhouettes their real desires. I bet the readers of SI , loved that movie "Brokeback Mountain.":confused:

Couple questions.

1. Why should we (black folk) care if a few weak euros can't dig the obvious beauty of one of our queens?

2. Isn't it hypocritical for us to want Beyonce embraced on the cover of a white man's mag while getting ticked that a latina chick is embraced on the cover a black man's mag?

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Why should we (black folk) care if a few weak euros can't dig the obvious beauty of one of our queens?

Good question. Personally, I could care less either way.

Isn't it hypocritical for us to want Beyonce embraced on the cover of a white man's mag while getting ticked that a latina chick is embraced on the cover a black man's mag?


Bey is a gorgeous, hands down.

Although Euro men may be the bulk subscribers of Sports Illustrated, the mag isn't meant to cater to ONLY Euro men; it's for sports lovers- no designated race; therefore, there shouldn't be any uproar over ANY race woman gracing the cover.

On the other hand we have a magazine entitled: "Black Men"... in which a Latina was voted "Sexiest of the Year"; it's the general concept, mainly, IMO.

Peace

Good question. Personally, I could care less either way.



Bey is a gorgeous, hands down.

Although Euro men may be the bulk subscribers of Sports Illustrated, the mag isn't meant to cater to ONLY Euro men; it's for sports lovers- no designated race; therefore, there shouldn't be any uproar over ANY race woman gracing the cover.

On the other hand we have a magazine entitled: "Black Men"... in which a Latina was voted "Sexiest of the Year"; it's the general concept, mainly, IMO.

Peace



I dunno spicy, percentage-wise, I'd be surprised if there were any less euros who read Black men magazine than Black folks who read sports illustrated.

Sports illustrated is to me like major college football, the subject matter is mostly the black athlete but the audience is mainly euro (try tailgating at a SEC football game and see how many black faces you find). The swimsuit issue is its crown jewel, and the woman they put on the cover is supposed to define euro beauty (i.e. emaciated pre-pubescent blondes).

My point is I see nothing wrong with euros getting alarmed about beyonce on their cover, and if Black men magazine was actually a credible publication, I'd see nothing wrong with black folks getting alarmed about a latina being celebrated on its cover.

I mean shouldn't we be consistent? Is it ok for us to have black pride and exhibit loyalty but not ok for other races?

If anything the euro SI subscribers raising commotion is one lesson on spontaneous collective action we could learn from.

Just My .02 on it.

I dunno spicy, percentage-wise, I'd be surprised if there were any less euros who read Black men magazine than Black folks who read sports illustrated.

Sports illustrated is to me like major college football, the subject matter is mostly the black athlete but the audience is mainly euro (try tailgating at a SEC football game and see how many black faces you find). The swimsuit issue is its crown jewel, and the woman they put on the cover is supposed to define euro beauty (i.e. emaciated pre-pubescent blondes).

My point is I see nothing wrong with euros getting alarmed about beyonce on their cover, and if Black men magazine was actually a credible publication, I'd see nothing wrong with black folks getting alarmed about a latina being celebrated on its cover.

I mean shouldn't we be consistent? Is it ok for us to have black pride and exhibit loyalty but not ok for other races?

If anything the euro SI subscribers raising commotion is one lesson on spontaneous collective action we could learn from.

Just My .02 on it.


Excellent analysis Bro Kemetkind....i personally think the article is a fabrication.

I dunno spicy, percentage-wise, I'd be surprised if there were any less euros who read Black men magazine than Black folks who read sports illustrated. Hmmm.. you'd never know. Seemingly everything Black.. non-Blacks bumrush to get to.

Sports illustrated is to me like major college football, the subject matter is mostly the black athlete but the audience is mainly euro (try tailgating at a SEC football game and see how many black faces you find). The swimsuit issue is its crown jewel, and the woman they put on the cover is supposed to define euro beauty (i.e. emaciated pre-pubescent blondes).
LOL@ snowfall tailgate party. True, minus Bey's curves, she practically embodies the Euro image. We all know we won't see Buffy the body on the front of SI, in this lifetime. Like another poster mentioned... Bey is "safe" and "easy on the eye".

My point is I see nothing wrong with euros getting alarmed about beyonce on their cover, and if Black men magazine was actually a credible publication, I'd see nothing wrong with black folks getting alarmed about a latina being celebrated on its cover.
Although WM may be the primary subscribers, I do believe more BM read it than reported. Isn't the consensus based on info the subscriber remits anyways, as far as age; race; income, etc?

You know how SOME of us do: we go to the store and skim through mags without purchasing, and/or, we share with peers. LOL. Maybe that's why the BM preference isn't taken into consideration in these publications. Bey would be the perfect median, aesthetically; appealing to all men in some way or another. Ya think?

Well, I guess YOU can call it "their" cover since they do have a "patent" on it *shrugs*.


I mean shouldn't we be consistent? Is it ok for us to have black pride and exhibit loyalty but not ok for other races?
How other races pride themselves is not my concern. I knew somehow the comparison with BM magazine incident would surface somewhere in this discussion. Relevancy at its finest :read:

If anything the euro SI subscribers raising commotion is one lesson on spontaneous collective action we could learn from.

Good point! I'm certain the motives differ, however.

Just My .02 on it.
You've actually raised some valid points

Peace

Excellent analysis Bro Kemetkind....i personally think the article is a fabrication.

Do you have any commentary to add as far as Bey gracing the cover of a "WM" mag?

:)

So now they can stop with the crap about racism being a thing of the past. After this outburst no I'm not going to forget slavery.

Plus, it's really no big deal to me if white men like my body. Polly don't want no cracker anyway.

Thats what I have been saying...whites will ALWAYS be racists of blacks because of there sub-concious inferior complex of there ancestors who lived in caves in europe while our ancestors flurished in egypt/kemet and cush/nubia/ethiopia...thats what the whites want us to do..forget 500 years of slavery...not 400...our friend cristo colon/christopher columbus had that brilliant idea of our ancestors..why do you think when europeans conquer lands they call it "colonizing" more and more cover-ups and lies by the white HIS-story how can they sit there with arrogance to tell us to forget or get over what they did to our ancestors then turn around and tell EVERYONE to morn fake khazarian jews for a 10 year holocaust....500 compared to 10 is a not even close...

Do you have any commentary to add as far as Bey gracing the cover of a "WM" mag?

:)


My comment would be, why as a black woman:

1) would you want to almost bare it all in front of the whole world, but you cannot wear your own hair?

2) would want to go naked or almost naked in a magazine geared towards white men.

why are we as black people getting upset, because whites do not want to accept a black woman posing in a magazine that is geared towards whites?

My comment would be, why as a black woman:

1) would you want to almost bare it all in front of the whole world, but you cannot wear your own hair?

2) would want to go naked or almost naked in a magazine geared towards white men.

why are we as black people getting upset, because whites do not want to accept a black woman posing in a magazine that is geared towards whites?

Exactly! That's what I was thinking. It IS their mag and it IS geared towards whites, so they can complain until they're blue in the face I don't care. I'm sure Beyonce sees this as a milestone in her career which is sad to me. One reason we're stuck as we are is for us looking eagerly at whites begging for a piece of their pie. If we want some pie we need to bake our own and quit worrying about theirs.

My comment would be, why as a black woman:

1) would you want to almost bare it all in front of the whole world, but you cannot wear your own hair?

IMO, Bey's image overshadows her talent. All you have to do is show some skin for notoriety and rave reviews these days. I don't know of many Black female entertainers who wear their own hair. This is the closest to natural I've ever seen Bey:
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l32/spicybrown/naturalBey.jpg

2) would want to go naked or almost naked in a magazine geared towards white men.

Shock value and/or to boost her career since Jennifer Hudson stepped into the limelight. I'm not the one to gossip, but hey...

why are we as black people getting upset, because whites do not want to accept a black woman posing in a magazine that is geared towards whites?

Personally, I'm not upset, and it's hard to make sense out of a worldy issue such as this one. I guess it's just shocking that although Bey is a household name, even in white America, she wasn't embraced by the fellas as most figured she would be. I guess they'd rather see her strutting half-naked onstage, than in "their" mags in which they have to read day in & out. It's rumored her father paid SI to have bey on the front; that's pitiful. Oh well. LOL

What funny is the inside shots look better than her cover shot:book:

Peace

When beyonce first started out..she had hair naturally curly....she looked alot better naturally than now....I like tyra banks more as in the looks....jennifer hudson is gorgous too...white people are just taken notice to the beauty of the black woman...


As I said its that sub-consious thing with white men....they love the black woman....even the thicker ones like tyra or jennifer....but they instead bow to male looking white female models who have no intelligence...

The question is do we know any of them women on the cover...half the time no...most sports illustrated readers wouldnt mind seeing jessica simpson or paris hilton on there..but they have a problem with beyonce....pathetic...

no its not pathetic, if whiteys want to see one of their neanderthal kind on the front of a magazine that they've payed for whats pathetic about that?

so a whitey is better then a dark face i think not Beyonce fits and looks
good as any on the cover of any magazine......

When beyonce first started out..she had hair naturally curly....she looked alot better naturally than now....I like tyra banks more as in the looks....jennifer hudson is gorgous too...white people are just taken notice to the beauty of the black woman...


As I said its that sub-consious thing with white men....they love the black woman....even the thicker ones like tyra or jennifer....but they instead bow to male looking white female models who have no intelligence...


ive read a few of your replies and i dont like what im reading, i can tell you love white people, and you get a kick out of a "white man loving black woman", you have an inferority complex and i can see it from a mile away, you feel inferioer to a people who are part animal DNA, your a pathetic person COWARD

ive read a few of your replies and i dont like what im reading, i can tell you love white people, and you get a kick out of a "white man loving black woman", you have an inferority complex and i can see it from a mile away, you feel inferioer to a people who are part animal DNA, your a pathetic person COWARD

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