It has been handed down to us that the first five books of the Holy Bible (called The Pentateuch by the Greeks) were written or compiled by one of the greatest men of all time - the man called Moses. He was the founder of Judaism; the greatest of all the Israelite prophets; the deliverer of the Israelite people of Africa from the tyranny of the Egyptian Pharaoh. According to Biblical data he lived about 500 years after Abraham, and about 1,400 years before Christ. He was the lawgiving prophet; the other Israelite prophets that came after him were only followers of his system.

Moses was an Israelite who was born in the North African country of Egypt in 1533 BC. He was brought up by Egyptians, and bore a typical Egyptian name. Moses is the name "Maose," which is commonly found on the Nile River. The Egyptian word "ms" stands for "mosu," which simply means "boy-son" (Egyptian hieroglyphics used no vowels). A number of Pharaohs are called "Ahmoses," "Tuthmoses," and "Ram(o)ses." The Bible says, "he was born of the priestly house of Levi," and was called "Moses" because the Pharaoh's daughter saved him from the waters of the Nile River. In the Hebrew language "Moses" becomes "Mosheh," meaning "drawn from water."

The Pharaoh Ram(o)ses II had ordered that all Israelite male children be destroyed because the Israelites had grown exceedingly strong. Moses was saved by the Pharaoh's daughter.

Here is the Biblical account:

"Now a man from the house of Levi went and took to wife a daughter of Levi. The woman conceived and bore a son; and when she saw that he was a goodly child, she hid him three months. And when she could hide him no longer she took for him a basket made of bulrushes, and daubed it with bitumen and pitch; and she put the child in it and placed it among the reeds at the river's brink...

And his (Moses) sister stood at a distance, to know what would be done to him. Now the daughter of Pharaoh came down to bathe at the river, and her maidens walked beside the river; she saw the basket among the reeds and sent her maid to fetch it. When she opened it she saw the child, and lo, the babe was crying. She took pity on him and said, 'This is one of the Israelite's children.' Then his (Moses) sister said to Pharaoh's daughter, 'Shall I go and call you a nurse from the Israelite women to nurse the child for you?' And the Pharaoh's daughter said to her, 'Go.' So the girl went and called the child's mother...

And Pharaoh's daughter said to her, 'Take this child away, and nurse him for me, and I will give you your wages.' So the woman took the child and nursed him. And the child grew, and she brought him to Pharaoh's daughter, and he became her son; and she named him Moses, for, she said, 'I drew him out of the water.' " (Exodus 2:1-10)

She adopted Moses, and he became her son. In this position, as the son of the great Pharaoh Ramses' daughter, he received the highest education that was possible in that wonderful land of Egypt. The Bible tells us "he was well-versed in all the wisdom of the the Egyptians." History tells us that he became a master of astrology; that he erected a great observatory at the Temple of Amun-Re, in the great Egyptian city of On (i.e., the Greek "Heliopolis").

When his stepmother became the Queen of Egypt, Moses became the Commander-in-Chief of her Army; as such he conquered the Ethiopians and relieved Egypt from the danger of invasion. In this moment of triumph the Queen died, and a Pharaoh came to the throne "who knew not Moses," and the Bible says that "he went unto his brethren and looked on their burdens." The "call of the blood" had come; he knew he was an Israelite, a son of the priestly tribe of Levi; "he saw an Egyptian smiting one of his brethren" (Exodus 2:11); he slew the Egyptian and took refuge in the land of Midian.

Moses was now 80 years of age (Exodus 7:7), a man of experience, great learning, and "well-versed in the wisdom of the Egyptians." Such was the man the Lord had chosen for the delivery of His people. If one could imagine the Biblical accounts of the humbling of Pharaoh by the ten plagues; the Passover night; the outward march of that multitude of men, women, children, and herds of cattle. No one but Moses, the former Commander-in-Chief of the Egyptian Army, could have organized such a march.

The first great Passover march of the Israelites took place at the time of the Full Moon after the Vernal Equinox in Nisan, the first month of the Hebraic year (equivalent to "Easter" in the Western world), circa 1486 BC. If one looks at an atlas containing old Hebrew names, it is easy to see that Moses skillfully led this great multitude of people toward the most fordable part of the Red Sea (i.e., the northern end of the Gulf of Suez), at a place called "Pi-Hahiroth," as stated in Exodus 14:2.

Moses was well-acquainted with this part of the country, having passed this way on his flight to Midian and in his return to Egypt. He had observed the influx of the tides, and by his astrological calculations he knew that the southeastern monsoon winds would arrive at a certain date to aid in his plans. This is the east wind mentioned in the English version of the Bible; in the Septuagint (the Greek version of the Old Testament) it is called a strong southern wind. But in both translations the poetic description is the same:

"And the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night and made the sea dry land and the waters were divided." (Exodus 14:21)... and the children of Israel walked upon dry land in the midst of the sea.

The Israelites had left secretly by night, and when the Pharaoh learned of their flight he pursued them with his armies and was drowned in the Red Sea. Moses led the Israelites across the dry bed very quickly, because it was the time of the ebb tide, and the sea was receding. But when Pharaoh's army reached the sea, it was the time of the high tide, and in their zeal to overtake the Israelites, they took no notice of it, and at once jumped into the sea. It seemed that being heavily equipped with huge chariots and other heavy armaments, the progress of Pharaoh's army was greatly reduced, so that while they were yet in the midst of the sea, the high tide returned and they were all drowned.

After this came that mysterious 40 years of wandering in the desert, which was planned and designed to purge the Israelites from the teachings and customs they had partook of during their 400 years of residence among the people of Egypt. If one again looks at any Old Testament map, one cannot help but to think how short the distance would have been had Moses led his people directly across the peninsula to Palestine. Instead, they were made to traverse the whole peninsula of Sinai before they were allowed to turn their faces toward "The Promised Land."

During that 40 years of wandering a generation had passed away. Wisely and by design the older generation, which had been contaminated by their long sojourn in Egypt, had been "gathered to their fathers." Their place had been taken by the fresh blood of their sons and daughters - a younger generation more fitted to understand the teachings of the Great Lawgiver; more fitted as a chosen people later on to hand down to posterity the pages of the Holy Bible, that sacred volume which was destined to illuminate and influence the entire civilized world...

I take a small exception with the title given to Moses. The patriarchs - Abraham, Isaac and Jacob preceeded Moses by more than 400-600 years. Jacob, the grandson of Abraham was given the name Israel - symbolizing the beginning of Israel, and the twelve tribes. Moses was chosen to lead the liberation of Israel from 400 years in slavery in Egypt. A paltry 70 folk were left after a famine to be rescued by Joseph - the brother sold into slavery. Moses was at the ripe age of 80 when he received his marching orders to go with his brother, Aaron, to seek the release of Israel from the Pharoah.
Chronologically, Jacob becomes the founding father of Judaism, I think. Moses was the "emancipator"

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, known as the Patriarchs, are both the physical and spiritual ancestors of Judaism. They founded the religion now known as Judaism, and their descendants are the Jewish people. Of course, technically, it is incorrect to refer to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as Jews, because the terms "Jew" and "Judaism" were not used generally to refer to this nation until hundreds of years after their time; nevertheless, for convenience I will use these terms.

The history is derived from written Torah, Talmud, Midrash and other sources. Modern scholars question the existence of the Patriarchs and the historical accuracy of this information; however, it is worth noting that scholars also questioned the existence of Babylonia... until archaeologists found it.


Moses was the greatest prophet, leader and teacher that Judaism has ever known. In fact, one of Rambam's 13 Principles of Faith is the belief that Moses's prophecies are true, and that he was the greatest of the prophets. He is called "Moshe Rabbeinu," that is, Moses, Our Teacher/Rabbi. Interestingly, the numerical value of "Moshe Rabbeinu" is 613: the number of mitzvot that Moses taught the Children of Israel! He is described as the only person who ever knew G-d face-to-face (Deut. 34:10) and mouth-to-mouth (Num. 12:8), which means that G-d spoke to Moses directly, in plain language, not through visions and dreams, as G-d communicated with other prophets.

Moses was born on 7 Adar in the year 2368 from Creation (circa 1400 BCE), the son of Amram, a member of the tribe of Levi, and Yocheved, Levi's daughter (Ex. 6:16-20). Unlike the heroes of many other ancient cultures, Moses did not have a miraculous birth. Amram married Yocheved, and she conceived, and she gave birth (Ex. 2:1-2). The only unusual thing about his birth is Yocheved's advanced age: Yocheved was born while Jacob and his family were entering Egypt, so she was 130 when Moses was born. His father named him Chaver, and his grandfather called him Avigdor, but he is known to history as Moses, a name given to him by Pharaoh's daughter.

The name "Moses" comes from a root meaning "take out," because Moses was taken out of the river (Ex. 2:10). Some modern scholars point out that the root M-S-S in Egyptian means "son of" as in the name Ramases (son of Ra), but it is worth noting that Moses's name in Hebrew is M-Sh-H, not M-S-S. According to one Jewish source, Pharaoh's daughter actually named him Minios, which means "drawn out" in Egyptian, and the name Moshe (Moses) was a Hebrew translation of that name, just as a Russian immigrant named Ivan might change his name to the English equivalent, John.

Moses was born in a very difficult time: Pharaoh had ordered that all male children born to the Hebrew slaves should be drowned in the river (Ex. 1:22). Yocheved hid Moses for three months, and when she could no longer hide him, she put him in a little ark and placed it on the river where Pharaoh's daughter bathed (Ex. 2:2-3). Pharaoh's daughter found the child and had compassion on him (Ex. 2:6). At the suggestion of Moses's sister Miriam, Pharaoh's daughter hired Yocheved to nurse Moses until he was weaned (Ex. 2:7-10). Yocheved instilled in Moses a knowledge of his heritage and a love of his people that could not be erased by the 40 years he spent in the antisemitic court of Pharaoh.

Little is known about Moses's youth. The biblical narrative skips from his adoption by Pharaoh's daughter to his killing of an Egyptian taskmaster some 40 years later. One traditional story tells that when he was a child, sitting on Pharaoh's knee, Moses took the crown off of Pharaoh's head and put it on. The court magicians took this as a bad sign and demanded that he be tested: they put a brazier full of gold and a brazier full of hot coals before him to see which he would take. If Moses took the gold, he would have to be killed. An angel guided Moses's hand to the coal, and he put it into his mouth, leaving him with a life-long speech impediment (Ex. 4:10).

Although Moses was raised by Egyptians, his compassion for his people was so great that he could not bear to see them beaten by Pharaoh's taskmasters. One day, when Moses was about 40 years old, he saw an Egyptian beating a Hebrew slave, and he was so outraged that he struck and killed the Egyptian (Ex. 2:11-12). But when both his fellow Hebrews and the Pharaoh condemned him for this action, Moses was forced to flee from Egypt (Ex. 2:14-15).

He fled to Midian, where he met and married Zipporah, the daughter of a Midianite priest (Ex. 2:16-21). They had a son, Gershom (Ex. 2:22). Moses spent 40 years in Midian tending his father-in-law's sheep. A midrash tells that Moses was chosen to lead the Children of Israel because of his kindness to animals. When he was bringing the sheep to a river for water, one lamb did not come. Moses went to the little lamb and carried it to the water so it could drink. Like G-d, Moses cared about each individual in the group, and not just about the group as a whole. This showed that he was a worthy shepherd for G-d's flock.

I'm sure everyone knows what happened next - if you haven't read the book, then you've certainly seen the movie. G-d appeared to Moses and chose him to lead the people out of Egyptian slavery and to the Promised Land (Ex. Chs. 3-4). With the help of his brother Aaron, Moses spoke to Pharaoh and triggered the plagues against Egypt (Ex. Chs. 4-12). He then led the people out of Egypt and across the sea to freedom, and brought them to Mount Sinai, where G-d gave the people the Torah and the people accepted it (Ex. Chs. 12-24).

G-d revealed the entire Torah to Moses. The entire Torah includes the first five books of the Bible (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy) that Moses himself wrote as G-d instructed him. It also includes all of the remaining prophecies and history that would later be written down in the remaining books of scripture, and the entire Oral Torah, the oral tradition for interpreting the Torah, that would later be written down in the Talmud. Moses spent the rest of his life writing the first five books, essentially taking dictation from G-d.

After Moses received instruction from God about the Law and how to interpret it, he came back down to the people and started hearing cases and judging them for the people, but this quickly became too much for one man. Upon the advice of his father-in-law, Yitro, Moses instituted a judicial system (Ex. 18:13-26).

Moses was not perfect. Like any man, he had his flaws and his moments of weakness, and the Bible faithfully records these shortcomings. In fact, Moses was not permitted to enter the Promised Land because of a transgression (Deut. 32:48-52). Moses was told to speak to a rock to get water from it, but instead he struck the rock repeatedly with a rod, showing improper anger and a lack of faith (Num. 20:7-13).

Moses died in the year 2488, just before the people crossed over into the Promised Land (Deut. 32:51). He completed writing the first five books of the Bible (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy) before he died. There is some dispute as to who physically wrote the last few verses of Deuteronomy: according to some, Moses wrote these last few verses from a vision of the future, but according to others, the last few verses were added by Joshua after Moses's death. In any case, these verses, like everything else in the Torah, were written by G-d, and the actual identity of the transcriber is not important.

Moses's position as leader of Israel was not hereditary. His son, Gershom, did not inherit the leadership of Israel. Moses's chosen successor was Joshua, son of Nun (Deut. 34:9).

Moses was 120 years old at the time that he died (Deut. 34:7). That lifespan is considered to be ideal, and has become proverbial: one way to wish a person well in Jewish tradition is to say, "May you live to be 120!"

As important as Moses was to the Children of Israel, it is always important to remember that Moses himself was not the deliverer or redeemer of Israel. It was God who redeemed Israel, not Moses. Moses was merely God's prophet, His spokesman. The traditional text of the Pesach haggadah does not even mention Moses's name. In order to prevent people from idolatrously worshipping Moses, his grave was left unmarked (Deut. 34:6).



This information is good and i enjoy the reads. Finally, someone comes in to respond other than read...

Thank you for your enlightening discourse, dnommo...

The Pharaoh's daughter adopted Moses, and he became her son. In this position, as the son of the great Pharaoh Ramses' daughter, he received the highest education that was possible in that wonderful land of Egypt. The Bible tells us "he was well-versed in all the wisdom of the the Egyptians." History tells us that he became a master of astrology; that he erected a great observatory at the Temple of Amun-Re, in the great Egyptian city of On (the Greek "Heliopolis").

Re: The Exodus:

Moses was well-acquainted with this part of the country ("Pi-Hahiroth"), having passed this way on his flight to Midian and in his return to Egypt. He had observed the influx of the tides, and by his astrological calculations he knew that the southeastern monsoon winds would arrive at a certain date to aid in his plans.

The Israelites had left Egypt secretly by night, and when the Pharaoh learned of their flight he pursued them with his armies and was drowned in the Red Sea. Moses led the Israelites across the dry bed very quickly, because it was the time of the ebb tide, and the sea was receding. But when Pharaoh's army reached the sea, it was the time of the high tide, and in their zeal to overtake the Israelites, they took no notice of it, and at once jumped into the sea. Being heavily equipped with huge chariots and other heavy armaments, the progress of Pharaoh's army was greatly reduced, so that while they were yet in the midst of the sea, the high tide returned and they were all drowned...

The Bible tells us "he was well-versed in all the wisdom of the the Egyptians." History tells us that he became a master of astrology; that he erected a great observatory at the Temple of Amun-Re, in the great Egyptian city of On (the Greek "Heliopolis").

Do people really believe that these stories are true?
Where is the evidence pointing to Moses Existence?

Of course they do...ask anybody... :) Moses ("Musa" in Arabic) is a prophet both in the Bible and the Qur'an...

eVERYTHING WRITTEN ABOUT MOSES ISN'T TRUE. tHE EGYPTIANS USED THE WORD JEW TO REFER TO THEIR MOUNTAINS THEY SHAPED LIKE PYRAMIDS THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFOR ABRAM WAS BORN.IS IT A COINCIDENCE THE JEWS FROM ISRAEL ADOPT THIS EGYPTIAN SYMBOL ON THEIR NATIONAL FLAG.

But where is the evidence of HIS EXISTENCE?

According to the Bible, the Holy Qur'an, the Torah and other holy books of the world he existed...

What makes you think he didn't?

There is no physical evidence to suggest that he even existed. The Moses is Kemetic in origin. We do see a great leader who freed his people from bondage named Ah'mose. We also see a great leader named Thut"moses"I, II and III.

However, there is absolutely no real proof of his existence outside of religious text. There is some evidence of a radical Kemetic Priest who turned on his people by aligning with foreigners however.

For the man who is considered so holy, there is absolutely nothing to show that he actually existed.

Maybe if scholars could settle on a date of birth, it would help us determine this. I've seen the following dates based on research:

2300 BCE
1700 BCE
1533 BCE
1400 BCE
1298 BCE

There is no physical evidence to suggest that he even existed. The name "Moses" is Kemetic in origin. We do see a great leader who freed his people from bondage named Ah"moses." We also see a great leader named Tuth"moses" I, II and III.Moses was brought up by Egyptians, and bore a typical Egyptian name. "Moses" is the name "Maose," which is commonly found on the Nile River. The Egyptian word "ms" stands for "mosu," which simply means "boy-son" (Egyptian hieroglyphics used no vowels). A number of Pharaohs are called "Ahmoses," "Tuthmoses," and "Ram(o)ses."

To deny or to doubt the historic personality of Moses is to undermine and render unintelligible the subsequent history of the Jewish people. Rabbinical literature teems with legends touching every event of his career. Taken singly, these popular Biblical tales are purely imaginative, yet, considered in their cumulative force, they vouch for the reality of a grand and illustrious personage of strong character and noble achievement...who continues to thrill and subdue the minds of not only the Jewish people, but the entire religious world. The Bible furnishes the chief authentic account of his luminous life...

Still, there is no evidence of his existence. Yes, a story that is interesting yet no evidence to proof his existence. Maybe we need to find out who the 'real' Moses is and where he 'really' got his story.

Hotep

Along with God, it is Moses who dominates the Jewish Torah. Acting at God's behest, it is he who leads the Jews out of slavery, unleashes the Ten Plagues against Egypt, guides the freed slaves for forty years in the wilderness, carries down the law from Mount Sinai, and prepares the Jews to enter the land of Canaan. Without Moses, there would be little apart from laws to write about in the last four books of the Torah...

To deny or to doubt the historic personality of Moses is to undermine and render unintelligible the subsequent history of the Jewish people...

Greetings Aqil,

"To deny or to doubt the historic personality of Moses is to undermine and render unintelligible the subsequent history of the Jewish people..."

However, it is not me denying this - it actual historical facts that deny the historical personality of a man named Moses.

There is absolutely nothing to show that he actually existed. The history of the "Jewish" people is a complete hoax. I am of course referring to the those from the Caucus Mountains.

Where is Moses?

There is absolutely nothing to show that he actually existed. The history of the "Jewish" people is a complete hoax. I am of course referring to the those from the Caucus Mountains.Jews did not come from the Caucasus Mountains...Caucasians did...

Where is Moses?In all the holy books of the world...

The Bible tells us that Moses was well-versed in all the wisdom of the the Egyptians. History tells us that he became a master of astrology; that he erected a great observatory at the Temple of Amun-Re, in the great Egyptian city of On...

(The Greeks renamed this great Egyptian city "Heliopolis.")

The Bible tells us that Moses was well-versed in all the wisdom of the the Egyptians. History tells us that he became a master of astrology; that he erected a great observatory at the Temple of Amun-Re, in the great Egyptian city of On...

(The Greeks renamed this great Egyptian city "Heliopolis.")


Ques; If The Devil Was On Earth Before Adam And Hawwah , And Belongs To A Group Of Being Called '' [ Kaa- Fir - Umn ] Then Wasn't This Group Of People On Earth Before Adam And Hawwah ?

Your query is not germane to the subject of this thread, which is, "Moses: The Founder of Judaism."

Your query is not germane to the subject of this thread, which is, "Moses: The Founder of Judaism."

It Was A Question Duhhhhhh If You Can Answer It Say So . It No Big Thing :nono: < Fear Is Something Isn't It > By The Way Mose Didn't Write El's Holy Torah ...
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It was a question, duhhhhhh...if you can answer it say so. It's no big thing...I am the author of this thread, IssaEl21, and I will respond to whatever I choose to respond to. It has been my experience on the Internet that in most forums people post responses and queries that are germane to the subject at hand. I suggest that you do the same if you want answers to your questions...

Fear is something isn't it?What fear???

By the way Moses didn't write El's Holy Torah.If he didn't, then who did? You quoted Exodus 31:17-18. I will quote Exodus 31:12-18, under the heading, Laws for the Sabbath:

"Moses told the Israelites that the Lord said:

'The Sabbath belongs to me. Now I command you and your descendants to always obey the laws of the Sabbath. By doing this, you will know that I have chosen you as my own. Keep the Sabbath holy. You have six days to do your work, but the Sabbath is mine, and it must remain a day of rest. If you work on the Sabbath, you will no longer be part of my people, and you will be put to death.

Every generation of Israelites must respect the Sabbath. This day will always serve as a reminder, both to me and to the Israelites, that I made the heavens and the earth in six days, then on the seventh day I rested and relaxed.'

When God had finished speaking to Moses on Mount Sinai, He gave him the two flat stones on which He had written all of His Laws with His own Hand." (Exodus 31:12-18)

(Btw, you will find that quoting the Torah and/or Talmud in this forum will be an exercise in excoriating futility. Are you Jewish?)

I am the author of this thread, IssaEl21, and I will respond to whatever I choose to respond to. It has been my experience on the Internet that in most forums people post responses and queries that are germane to the subject at hand. I suggest that you do the same if you want answers to your questions...



What fear???



If he didn't, then who did?

You quoted Exodus 31:17-18. I will quote Exodus 31:12-18, under the heading, Laws for the Sabbath:

"Moses told the Israelites that the Lord said:

'The Sabbath belongs to me. Now I command you and your descendants to always obey the laws of the Sabbath. By doing this, you will know that I have chosen you as my own. Keep the Sabbath holy. You have six days to do your work, but the Sabbath is mine, and it must remain a day of rest. If you work on the Sabbath, you will no longer be part of my people, and you will be put to death.

Every generation of Israelites must respect the Sabbath. This day will always serve as a reminder, both to me and to the Israelites, that I made the heavens and the earth in six days, then on the seventh day I rested and relaxed.'

When God had finished speaking to Moses on Mount Sinai, He gave him the two flat stones on which He had written all of His Laws with His own Hand." (Exodus 31:12-18)

(Btw, you will find that quoting the Torah and/or Talmud in this forum will be an exercise in excoriating futility. Are you Jewish?)

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Where they stole their Kalimat , Laa ilaaha illa Allah , Quraan 47 ; 19 ....
19. Know, therefore, that there is no god but Allah, and ask forgiveness for thy fault, and for the men and women who believe: for Allah knows how ye move about and how ye dwell in your homes. ;... And this was carried over to christianity Mark 12 ; 29 ;.....29 Jesus answered, "The first is, 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one; ;... Andthat's where muslims borrowed it from . They stole The concept of Fasting From The Jews Nehemiah 9 ; 1 ;.... Now in the twenty and fourth day of this month the children of Israel were assembled with fasting, and with sackclothes, and earth upon them ;.... The concept of Alms Giveing Quraan 4 ; 162 ;.... But those among them who are well-grounded in knowledge, and the believers, believe in what hath been revealed to thee and what was revealed before thee: And (especially) those who establish regular prayer and practise regular charity and believe in Allah and in the Last Day: To them shall We soon give a great reward.
Their Concept Of Making Hajj Ezta 3; 4 , 6 ; 22 ;.....They kept also the feast of tabernacles, as it is written, and offered the daily burnt offerings by number, according to the custom, as the duty of every day required; 6; 22 ;....And kept the feast of unleavened bread seven days with joy: for the LORD had made them joyful, and turned the heart of the king of Assyria unto them, to strengthen their hands in the work of the house of God, the God of Israel. ;.... What most muslims Don't even knowisthat their whole concept of The Pilgrimage to their Holy Temple , Cube Shaped Building ( Ka'aba ) In Mecca , Which they call The Hajj And The Person Who Completes The Pilgrimage Is Called A Hajji , Is A Word Duplicated From The Name Of Prophet Haggai And The Festive Khag Or Hag Exodus 12 ; 14 ;.... And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever ;.... This is when the children of Israel in the Book Of Ezra make A Pilgrimage out of Babylonian Captivity , To Return to The Holy Land Back to the Temple Of Solomon , The Holy Of Holies , The Most Sacred Building On Earth To Them . It's The Exact Same Story , Even The Same Titles ; They Stole The Concept Of Wearing The Ihraam From The Jews , Who Took It From The Ancient Egyptian Practice Of Priest Of Amun - Ra . The Concept Of The Story Of Nimrod Quraan 2 ; 258'......Hast thou not Turned thy vision to one who disputed with Abraham About his Lord, because Allah had granted him power? Abraham said: "My Lord is He Who Giveth life and death." He said: "I give life and death". Said Abraham: "But it is Allah that causeth the sun to rise from the east: Do thou then cause him to rise from the West." Thus was he confounded who (in arrogance) rejected faith. Nor doth Allah Give guidance to a people unjust.
Was Copied From The Jewish Narrative Of The Mishnah From TheMidrash Rabba Chapter 17. The Concept Of Wearing The Face Veil , Khimaar Genesis 24 ; 65;....For she had said unto the servant, What man is this that walketh in the field to meet us? And the servant had said, It is my master: therefore she took a vail, and covered herself.
And Wearing Sweet Smelling Oils , Qituwrah Meaning '' Sweet Fragrance '' From Qehtoret And Burning Incense Exodus 30 ; 7 , 23 , 34 ;...... V 7..And Aaron shall burn thereon sweet incense every morning: when he dresseth the lamps, he shall burn incense upon it. V 23 ...Take thou also unto thee principal spices, of pure myrrh five hundred shekels, and of sweet cinnamon half so much, even two hundred and fifty shekels, and of sweet calamus two hundred and fifty shekels,
V34 .....And the LORD said unto Moses, Take unto thee sweet spices, stacte, and onycha, and galbanum; these sweet spices with pure frankincense: of each shall there be a like weight:
And they also stole words like Sawkar Meaning '' Strong Drink '' From
The Hebrew , And Changed It To Sakhtamm Meaning '' Drunk '' The House '' Bayt ' Of Lord Quraan 106 ; 3 ;.....Let them adore the Lord of this House,
Stolen from the Hebrew Beth , The Word Rabb , Meaning '' Master or Sustainer '' From Rabb , The word Jannah from the Aramic / Hebrew Gan , The Word Sama'a or Samaawaati , From The Aramic / Hebrew '' Shamayim , Meaning '' The Earth , Land '' . Baab , from The Aramic / Hebrew Bawb , Meaning '' Door , '' Aba . From The Aramic / Hebrew Word Ab , Meaning Father , '' Malak From The Aramic / Hebrew Melek , Meaning '' King or Ruler '' Yad from The Aramic / HebrewWord Yawd , Meaning '' Hand ''. Amiyn , Amen , '' Mu ' minun , Mu ' minaati , El Mu'min Etc , One Of Allahs Attributes ( 6th ) Was Stolen From The Aramic / Hebrew Awmane , Meaning '' To Have Faith '' . El Bariyu , The 12th Attribute , Meaning '' The Fashioner '' From The Aramic / Hebrew '' Bara , Meaning ' To Attribute , Meaning The Fashioner '' From The Aramic / Hebrew '' Bara '' , Meaning '' To Replenish '' Al Musawwiru , The Fashioner , From The Aramic / Hebrew Tsawr Meaning To Make '' All Of The Attributes Of Arabic Was Stolen From Hebrew Including Salaam , Islaam , Muslim All Came From The Aramic / Hebrew Word Shalom Meaning '' Peace . ''

Are you Jewish?

Are you Jewish?
Being That Your Slow , In OverStanding Things You Know Nothing Of , Let Me Help You Again . < Their No Such Thing As A Jew > Your Imaan Should Have Told You This ...But Being Your Following The Teaching Of The Muslims Of The East , And Your Not Allow To Think On You Own . Just Obey Like The Slave They See You As ..
Before we go any Further I would like to make a point about the word '' Jew '' The point is that the first use of the word '' Jew '' was in the year 1514 A.D. So when you read any books that are making reference to past meaning before 1514 A.D. and you see the word '' Jew '' or Jewish '' Know that it is not the word that is really there . When you read in The Holy Bible , which were long before the year 1514 A.D. And You See The Word '' Jew '' or Jewish '' Know that you are being Deceived and that the word '' Jew or Jewish '' Is really not there , So the question is who who put , the word '' Jew '' in The Holy Bible and why ? The First Time You Read The Word '' Jew '' in The Holy Bible Is In Esther 2 ; 5 ;... Now there was a Jew in Susa the capital whose name was Mor'decai, the son of Ja'ir, son of Shim'e-i, son of Kish, a Benjaminite
They called Mordecai a '' Jew '' and a Benjamite '' But this was a mistranslation because if you LQQK up the Strong's number , O3064 for the word '' Jew '' You Get Yahudi in Modern Hebrew Yeh - Hoo - Dee ' AndIt Means '' Judah '' This is an obvious plot of deception so that you will think that theHoly Bible is Referring To The So - Called Jews You See Today That Have Infiltrated Israel And Are Now Calling Themselves Israeli Of The State Of Israel The Land And Claiming Descendancy From Judah . Ezra 2; 59 ( In Part )
... But They Could Not Shew Their Father's House , And Their Seed , Whether They Were Of Israel .''< Proves that people were always trying to claim that they are descendant of Israel . The fact always trying to claim that they are descendant of Israel . The fact is that they are Khayzar's from Russia , calling themselves Ashkenazim one of the two major groups of Jews by geographical origin and the corresponding cultural tradition . The other major group , the Spandyard calling themselves Sephardim from Spain who just wrote themselves into Our Original History . Both after conversion . they adopted the Hebraic Faith As A Religion Then In Time It Became Their Way Of Life . Ashkenazim And Sephardim Differ In Their Laws , Customs , Liturgy , And Language , Yiddish ( Judeo - German ) is the traditional vernacular of the Ashkenazim The language of the Sephardim Is Latino ( Judeo - Castilian ) . Today About 85% Of So - Called Jews , Are Ashkenazim . They Are Not The Original Judeans . But They Are Our Brothers In Faith , The Original Judean Were And Are Moorish '' Nubian / Black - Skinned '' People Who Are Now Residing In Ethiopia Called Falasha . AndFrom There , Spread All Over Africa From East To West From South To North . And New Finding , Mention The Lemba And Nubians / Blacks / Negroids And Most Lations Throughout The World And Throughout Africa Who Are From The Lost Tribe Of The House Of Israel , Which Will Be Explain Later In This Book . So there are also Pale Jews , Called Called Jebusites or Jacobites, Frauds Who Are Devils In Disguise As In All Other Faith , Religion And Beliefs As Will Be Proven In This E mail , Working For The Serpet's Seed Genesis 3 ; 15 ...... I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel." < The Tribe Of Naphillims Or Giborim , The Reptillian's Satan's Children , As Stated By Yashua , Isa , Jesus Himself In , Revelation 3 ; 9 '' Behold , I Will Make Them Of The Synagogue Of Satan Which Say They Are Jew , And Are Not But Do Lie '' Behold I Will Make Them To Come And Worship Before Thy Feet And To Know That I Have Loved Thee , ( This Is Also Mentioned In Revelation 2 ; 9 ) . So According To Yashua , Isa , Jesus , Satan The Snake Man Will Have Synagogues . They Just Change That Also To Church , As A Matter Of Fact , The Language That These Pale Jews Are Speaking Today Is No Hebrew But Yiddish , According To The American Heritage Dictionary ,
Yiddish is '' The language historically of Ashkenazic Jews of Central and Eastern Europe , resulting from a Fusion of elements derived principally from medieval German dialects andsecondarily from Hebrew and Aramaic , various Slavic languages and Old French and Old Italian , And The Pale Gentile Churches Admit To Worshipping The Image Of A Pale Jew They Call Christ Jesus So As You Can See , These People Who Saying They Are The Bloodline To The Pure Seed Of The House Of Israel , Are Not
And it was only 488 years ago when the word '' Jew '' Itself Came Into Existence . So again , WhenEver you see the word '' Jew '' Added in literature written before the year 1514 A.D. You know that the word was not really there . But are they Jews ? Yes , they are and many have Mixed Their Seed With Ours . So they are our children and we respect their beliefs. But Not The Ones Who Work For Leviathan The Lizard People , And Have Made Their Lord Baal , Which Jews Today Use For Husband And Revelation 21 ; 2 ...And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband;
Calls Yashua , Isa , Jesus The Groom '' HusbanD = Baal '' According To Online , Bible Strong 's # 01167 Ba'al Bah - al , Baal meaning '' Husband , owener . ; lord ''
Isaiah 54 ; 5 .. For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called. Proverbs 12 ; 7 ...The wicked are overthrown and are no more, but the house of the righteous will stand.
Malachi 3 ; 11 ...I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of your soil; and your vine in the field shall not fail to bear, says the LORD of hosts
Isaiah 54 ; 5 , Malachi 3 ; 11 . Proverbs12 ; 4 .... Makes it clean by using '' Married '' For Baal as us Nubians / Blacks / Negroids , Marrying Their God ( El
So They Trick You Genesis 14 ; 13 ...Then one who had escaped came, and told Abram the Hebrew, who was living by the oaks of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol and of Aner; these were allies of Abram.
And the word '' Comferatate '' is Strong's # 1167 ba'al bah . Allies '' Baal '' Amorites , So you see how they trick you who worshiped Baal . It means Allies with Canaanires , meaning you're married to Baal , not the Lamb but the Ram . So when they call you the Bride that makes their Jesus your Husband ''' Baal '' You have this Mixed Seed Of People Who Were From Shelomoh , Sulaiman , Solomon's sin of mixing his seed with Cainite Reptillians Of Nod Or Canaanite , Canine Beast . All Of This Race Mixing Almost Destroyed The Pure Or Holy Seed Of Judah , The Original Seed Jeremiah 14 ; 2 ;... "Judah mourns and her gates languish; her people lament on the ground, and the cry of Jerusalem goes up. ;... Wrongly Called Negroes / Blacks Coloreds , Should Be Called Maur , Muur , or Moor , Thisis where Saul . Shaool , Paul , Father who mixed his seed resided before becoming a resident of the city of Tarsus , Which lies in the vicinity of Rome .. Acts 22 ; 3 ... I am a Jew, born at Tarsus in Cili'cia, but brought up in this city at the feet of Gama'li-el, educated according to the strict manner of the law of our fathers, being zealous for God as you all are this day. ;...Nechemiah 13 ; 3 ;...When the people heard the law, they separated from Israel all those of foreign descent. ;...He Was Mixed . Saul , Shaool . Paul's, Father , From The Benjaminite Tribe , Became A Pharisee According To Acts 23;6 ..But when Paul perceived that one part were Sad'ducees and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, "Brethren, I am a Pharisee, a son of Pharisees; with respect to the hope and the resurrection of the dead I am on trial." ;....Pharisee were one of the many religious group of that time created in Babylon to rule thetribe in bondage under Nebuchandnezzar .
Ques ; Could You Describe The Pharisees ?
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Ans ; According to Online Bible Pharisee is described as Scripture ( Hebrew word Perahin , from Parash '' To Separate ''There were the successors of the Ascidians '' Pious ' A , Party that originated in the time of Antiochus Epiphanies in revolt against his Heathenizing Policy . The First mention Of them is in a desscription by Josephus of the three sects or schools into which the Jews were divided ( 145 B.C. ) The other Two Sect were the Essenes and the Sadducees In The Time Of Out Lord They Were The Popular Party John 7 ; 48 .....Have any of the authorities or of the Pharisees believed in him?
Saul . Shaool , Paul . When Brought Before The Council Of Jerusalem Professed Himself A Pharisees , Act 23 ; 6 ;..... But when Paul perceived that one part were Sad'ducees and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, "Brethren, I am a Pharisee, a son of Pharisees; with respect to the hope and the resurrection of the dead I am on trial."
Acts 26 ; 4 - 5 ;.....My manner of life from my youth, spent from the beginning among my own nation and at Jerusalem, is known by all the Jews. 5 They have known for a long time, if they are willing to testify, that according to the strictest party of our religion I have lived as a Pharisee.
There Was Much That Was Sound In Their Creed , Yet Their System Of Religion Was A Form And Nothing More . Their Was A Very Lax Morality .
Matthew 5 ; 20 ;....For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 15 ; 4, 8 ;.... 4 For God commanded, 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, 'He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him surely die.';.. 8 'This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me;
Matthew 23 ; 3 , 14 , 23 , 25 ;..... 3 so practice and observe whatever they tell you, but not what they do; for they preach, but do not practice. ..Woe to you, blind guides, who say, 'If any one swears by the temple, it is nothing; but if any one swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.' ;.... 23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law, justice and mercy and faith; these you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. ;...Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you cleanse the outside of the cup and of the plate, but inside they are full of extortion and rapacity.
John 8 ; 7 ;....And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her
On the first notices of them in The Holy Bible Matthew 3 ; 7 , They are ranked by John the Baptist The Forerunner Of Yashua , Isa , Jesus , With The Sadducees As A ' Generation Of Vipers ''Matthew 3 ; 7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism , he said unto them O generation of vipers . who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come ? '' They Were Noted For Their Self Righteoisness And Their Pride Matthew 9; 11 .....And when the Pharisees saw this, they said to his disciples, "Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?"
Luke 7 ; 39 .....Now when the Pharisee who had invited him saw it, he said to himself, "If this man were a prophet, he would have known who and what sort of woman this is who is touching him, for she is a sinner."
Luke 18 ; 11,12 .....11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, 'God, I thank thee that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week, I give tithes of all that I get.'
They were frequently rebuked by Yashua , Isa , Jesus in Matthew 12 ; 39 ;...
39 But he answered them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign; but no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah
Matthew 16 ;1 - 4 ;....1 And the Pharisees and Sad'ducees came, and to test him they asked him to show them a sign from heaven. 2 He answered them, "When it is evening, you say, 'It will be fair weather; for the sky is red.' 3 And in the morning, 'It will be stormy today, for the sky is red and threatening.' You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. 4 An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign shall be given to it except the sign of Jonah." So he left them and departed.
From the very beginning of his ministry the Pharisees showed Themselves bitter And persistent ememies of Yashua , Isa , Jesus , They Could Not Bear His Doctrines , And They Sought By Every Means To Destroy His Influence Among The People . Some Of The Religious Groups Of That Time Were .
1 , Sadducee 2 , Chief Priests 3 , Zealots 4 , The Essenes 5 . The Scribes
6 . The Rabbinical Council Of Levites ;... Now , because Saul , Shaool , Paul father ( originally a Benjaminite ) dwelt in the land of Judah ( due to some of the tribes of Benjamin migrating into the land of Judah ) . they inherited the name of the most prominent tribe , which is, the tribe of Judah for their own use to deceive Judean ( Jew ) in order to spy on them for Rome . This took place during the reign of King Rehoboam .. 1Kings 12 ; 21 ;...21 When Rehobo'am came to Jerusalem, he assembled all the house of Judah, and the tribe of Benjamin, a hundred and eighty thousand chosen warriors, to fight against the house of Israel, to restore the kingdom to Rehobo'am the son of Solomon.
From 967 B.C.E. 950 B.C.E . son of King David 1107 - 1007 B.C.E. son of Jesse of the House of Judah Ruth 4 ; 22 ;...Obed of Jesse, and Jesse of David.
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You didn't answer my question...

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Irrespective of the nonsensical gibberish, IssaEl21...just answer my question. Are you Jewish?

Irrespective of the nonsensical gibberish, IssaEl21...just answer my question. Are you Jewish?


You Sound Soft ,, If You Wasn't So Ignoant Your Answer Was In The Above Post . But I Guess Its Because Of You Slave Genes . You Wasn't Allow To Read .

Right, so are you Jewish?

I'll rephrase my question then, IssaEl21:

What is your ethnicity?

I'll rephrase my question then, IssaEl21:

What is your ethnicity?

Trying To Find Away To Label Me . Wont Get It Told You That Before . Are You A Races Now ? Why Do Orthodox Sunni Muslims Resort To Name Calling And Throwing Temper Tantrums Instead Of Discussing The Facts?

Are you afraid of answering the question? What are you trying to hide?

Are you afraid of answering the question? What are you trying to hide?

Again As I Have Shown You In The Post There No Such Thing As A Jew . Your Sounding Like A Woman Who Can Let Things Go . Speaking Of Hideing Things .. I Know You Can See I'm Unmasking You Water Down Sunni Islam .And They Are Seeing How Weak Your Teaching Is .

Trying To Find Away To Label Me . Wont Get It I Told You That Before . Are You A Races Now ? Why Do Orthodox Sunni Muslims Resort To Name Calling And Throwing Temper Tantrums Instead Of Discussing The Facts? :geek: :bazooka: :uzi:

You're not qualified to unmask anything...except yourself...:D

What is your ethnicity? What do you call yourself? I'm curious because you said you have no religion... :eeek:

You're not qualified to unmask anything...except yourself...:D

What is your ethnicity? What do you call yourself? I'm curious because you said you have no religion... :eeek:


That Face LQQK'S Like Bojangles Robinson .Oh Your Fake Sunni Islam Is Being Unmask . People Are Seeing Through That Water Down Islam Your Posting And Seeing What You Really Worshipping . The Best Is Yet To Come . :bazooka:

What people??? :look:

Back to the topic of the thread, which is "Moses: The Founder of Judaism":

It has been handed down to us that the first five books of the Holy Bible (called The Pentateuch by the Greeks) were written or compiled by one of the greatest men of all time - the man called Moses. He was the founder of Judaism; the greatest of all the Israelite prophets; the deliverer of the Israelite people of Africa from the tyranny of the Egyptian Pharaoh. According to Biblical data he lived about 500 years after Abraham, and about 1,400 years before Christ. He was the lawgiving prophet; the other Israelite prophets that came after him were only followers of his system.

Moses was an Israelite who was born in the North African country of Egypt in 1533 BC. He was brought up by Egyptians, and bore a typical Egyptian name. Moses is the name "Maose," which is commonly found on the Nile River. The Egyptian word "ms" stands for "mosu," which simply means "boy-son" (Egyptian hieroglyphics used no vowels). A number of Pharaohs are called "Ahmoses," "Tuthmoses," and "Ram(o)ses." The Bible says, "he was born of the priestly house of Levi," and was called "Moses" because the Pharaoh's daughter saved him from the waters of the Nile River. In the Hebrew language "Moses" becomes "Mosheh," meaning "drawn from water."

The Pharaoh Ram(o)ses II had ordered that all Israelite male children be destroyed because the Israelites had grown exceedingly strong. Moses was saved by the Pharaoh's daughter.

Here is the Biblical account:

"Now a man from the house of Levi went and took to wife a daughter of Levi. The woman conceived and bore a son; and when she saw that he was a goodly child, she hid him three months. And when she could hide him no longer she took for him a basket made of bulrushes, and daubed it with bitumen and pitch; and she put the child in it and placed it among the reeds at the river's brink...

And his (Moses) sister stood at a distance, to know what would be done to him. Now the daughter of Pharaoh came down to bathe at the river, and her maidens walked beside the river; she saw the basket among the reeds and sent her maid to fetch it. When she opened it she saw the child, and lo, the babe was crying. She took pity on him and said, 'This is one of the Israelite's children.' Then his (Moses) sister said to Pharaoh's daughter, 'Shall I go and call you a nurse from the Israelite women to nurse the child for you?' And the Pharaoh's daughter said to her, 'Go.' So the girl went and called the child's mother...

And Pharaoh's daughter said to her, 'Take this child away, and nurse him for me, and I will give you your wages.' So the woman took the child and nursed him. And the child grew, and she brought him to Pharaoh's daughter, and he became her son; and she named him Moses, for, she said, 'I drew him out of the water.' " (Exodus 2:1-10)

She adopted Moses, and he became her son. In this position, as the son of the great Pharaoh Ramses' daughter, he received the highest education that was possible in that wonderful land of Egypt. The Bible tells us "he was well-versed in all the wisdom of the the Egyptians." History tells us that he became a master of astrology; that he erected a great observatory at the Temple of Amun-Re, in the great Egyptian city of On (i.e., the Greek "Heliopolis").

When his stepmother became the Queen of Egypt, Moses became the Commander-in-Chief of her Army; as such he conquered the Ethiopians and relieved Egypt from the danger of invasion. In this moment of triumph the Queen died, and a Pharaoh came to the throne "who knew not Moses," and the Bible says that "he went unto his brethren and looked on their burdens." The "call of the blood" had come; he knew he was an Israelite, a son of the priestly tribe of Levi; "he saw an Egyptian smiting one of his brethren" (Exodus 2:11); he slew the Egyptian and took refuge in the land of Midian.

Moses was now 80 years of age (Exodus 7:7), a man of experience, great learning, and "well-versed in the wisdom of the Egyptians." Such was the man the Lord had chosen for the delivery of His people. If one could imagine the Biblical accounts of the humbling of Pharaoh by the ten plagues; the Passover night; the outward march of that multitude of men, women, children, and herds of cattle. No one but Moses, the former Commander-in-Chief of the Egyptian Army, could have organized such a march.

The first great Passover march of the Israelites took place at the time of the Full Moon after the Vernal Equinox in Nisan, the first month of the Hebraic year (equivalent to "Easter" in the Western world), circa 1486 BC. If one looks at an atlas containing old Hebrew names, it is easy to see that Moses skillfully led this great multitude of people toward the most fordable part of the Red Sea (i.e., the northern end of the Gulf of Suez), at a place called "Pi-Hahiroth," as stated in Exodus 14:2.

Moses was well-acquainted with this part of the country, having passed this way on his flight to Midian and in his return to Egypt. He had observed the influx of the tides, and by his astrological calculations he knew that the southeastern monsoon winds would arrive at a certain date to aid in his plans. This is the east wind mentioned in the English version of the Bible; in the Septuagint (the Greek version of the Old Testament) it is called a strong southern wind. But in both translations the poetic description is the same:

"And the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night and made the sea dry land and the waters were divided." (Exodus 14:21)... and the children of Israel walked upon dry land in the midst of the sea.

The Israelites had left secretly by night, and when the Pharaoh learned of their flight he pursued them with his armies and was drowned in the Red Sea. Moses led the Israelites across the dry bed very quickly, because it was the time of the ebb tide, and the sea was receding. But when Pharaoh's army reached the sea, it was the time of the high tide, and in their zeal to overtake the Israelites, they took no notice of it, and at once jumped into the sea. It seemed that being heavily equipped with huge chariots and other heavy armaments, the progress of Pharaoh's army was greatly reduced, so that while they were yet in the midst of the sea, the high tide returned and they were all drowned.

After this came that mysterious 40 years of wandering in the desert, which was planned and designed to purge the Israelites from the teachings and customs they had partook of during their 400 years of residence among the people of Egypt. If one again looks at any Old Testament map, one cannot help but to think how short the distance would have been had Moses led his people directly across the peninsula to Palestine. Instead, they were made to traverse the whole peninsula of Sinai before they were allowed to turn their faces toward "The Promised Land."

During that 40 years of wandering a generation had passed away. Wisely and by design the older generation, which had been contaminated by their long sojourn in Egypt, had been "gathered to their fathers." Their place had been taken by the fresh blood of their sons and daughters - a younger generation more fitted to understand the teachings of the Great Lawgiver; more fitted as a chosen people later on to hand down to posterity the pages of the Holy Bible, that sacred volume which was destined to illuminate and influence the entire civilized world...

]I ain't no Jew, but guess what? I'm going to straighten all this Moses/Moshe/Musa bulls*** out too! If you knew his actual name you could find his history...but since he was helping out crackers anyway, it's not like he was really important. Be that as it is...he will be dealt with.

The issue of his history is still up for grabs, but what history there is of him don't look pretty...not considering that he was supposed to be a black man. He may have been one of the first historical Colon Powells we had, but don't quote me on that.

The point is that, Moses, for those who take him to be real, wasn't no better than the brother who caught Nat Turner or the sister who saved George washington's life when the British were going to kill him !! that is word to the Muther !!![/COLOR] :hulk:

peace & luv

........but before we debate over Moses, Musa, or any of the many other attributes.......let's look & study his birth and where the bible gets that story from.........

Could it possibly be from King Sargon of Mesopotamia who has the exact same story of birth being hid in the water and found by nobilty and becomes leader of the Military YEARS before Moses is said to have been born around 1525 B.C.E. (Before the Christian Era).....

The same is true of Jesus' supposed birth, but actually it is a copy of the story of Sampson in Judges 13:7............

Moses did not exist, as previously stated at least not under this name.........on top of that he couldn't have compiled all 5 books because he died before the end of the Pentatauch!

Someone did go to the caves and civilize the beast, but not under this name.....

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I leave in peace

The issue I take with all of this, outside of the fact that MOSES most likely did not exsist, is the fact that none of JEWISH/HEBREW history can be reconciled with actual KEMETIC historical accounts.

There is not to be found a single account of the so-called HEBREW people living within KEMET at all, especially during the times in question--let alone this famous Prophet Moses.

One should always look to history first, to tell the tale, and then work one's way down from there.

The Kemau kept excellent records. They knew all the foreign peoples that dwelled within their borders at all times. Why is there no record of these supposed HEBREWS? Or Moses for that matter?

The factual account tells the tale; during the time MOSES is said to have lived and opposed RAMSES II, Moses would have actually missed the RAMA-SUSEN dynasty be more than 200 years. However, Moses was right on time for the HYKSOS invasion, in which they were forced out of KEMET, and forced to perform an "EXODUS" out of that divine land.

Not to mention the so-called "Great Plagues", and how they were a fallacy as well.....

Turning the river into blood? Swarms of Locusts?

And how's about "killing the first-born son"? Sounds like HYKSOS murder to me.

HOTEPU

"Moses" simply means "born of." The name normally required another name prefixed to it, such as Thuthmoses (born of Thoth), Ram(o)ses (born of Ra) or Amenmoses (born of Amen). Whilst the 'moses' element is spelt slightly differently when rendered in English, they all mean the same thing and it seems very likely to us that either Moses himself or some later scribe dropped the name of an Egyptian god from the front of his name."

The birth narrative of Sargon I, who ruled over Babylon and Sumer hundred of years before Moses states his mother "set me in a basket of rushes; with bitumen she sealed my lid. She cast me into the river, which rose not over me." The birth story is almost certainly a fiction created in the 6th century BC, echoing - for the birth of the Jewish nation - the ancient theme of creation emerging from the waters."
Christopher Knight & Robert Lomas, The Hiram Key: Pharaohs, Freemasons and the Discovery of the Secret Scrolls of Jesus

"And Moses became learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and was mighty in words and in deeds." (Acts 7:22)

"Moses was a skilled performer of magical rituals and was deeply learned in the knowledge of the accompanying spells, incantations, and magical formulas of every description. Moreover, the miracles which he wrought suggest that he was not only a priest, but a magician of the highest order and perhaps even a Ker Heb [Egyptian High Priest]."
Sir E. A. Wallis Budge, From Fetish to God in Ancient Egypt

"At the top of the hierarchy of priests was the High Priest, the sem priest, or 'First Prophet of the God.' He would have been an extrmely learned man, an elder of the temple, a man with considerable administrative ability and political sense. He would have been in charge of seeing that the temple and all its hodings ran smoothly, and officiating at the most important ceremonies. While normally such a man would have risen to his position through the ranks, it was the pharaoh's perogative to place whomever he wanted in that office."
Bob Brier, Ancient Egyptian Magic

"Moses, a son of the tribe of Levi, educated in Egypt and initiated at Heliopolis, became a High Priest of the Brotherhood under the reign of Pharaoh Amenhotep [Akhnaton]. He was elected by the Israelites as their chief, and he adapted to the ideas of his people - the science and philosophy that he had obtained in the Egyptian Mysteries. Proofs of this are to be found in the symbols, in the Initiations, and in his precepts and commandments. The dogma of an 'only god' which he taught was the Egyptian Brotherhood interpretation and teaching of the Pharaoh who established the first monotheistic religion known to man."
(Manetho, Egyptian High Priest, 3rd century BC)

"If Moses was a High Priest of the Brotherhood under Akhnaton, as Manetho states, but did not lead the exodus until the reign of Rameses II, as many historians believe, then Moses must have been an extremely old man at the time of the Exodus. (Rameses II did not rule until almost 100 years after Akhnaton.) The Bible, in Deuteronomy 34:7, states that Moses was 120 years old when he died."
William Bramley, The Gods of Eden

"Moses was frequently compared to Thoth (indeed, in the 2nd century BC an entire work was filled with such comparisons by the Judeo-Greek philosopher Artapanus, who credited the prophet with a range of remarkable and clearly 'scientific' inventions)." Sir Isaac Newton believed that "Moses understood that matter consisted of atoms, and that these atoms were hard, solid and immutable: 'gravity accrued to both atoms and to the bodies they composed; gravity was proportional to the quantity of matter in every body'."
Graham Hancock, The Sign and the Seal

"Moses - that ancient theologue, describing and expressing the most wonderful architecture of this great world - tells us that the spirit of God moved upon the waters, which was an indigested chaos, or mass created before by God." (Sir Isaac Newton)

"After killing an Egyptian hitting an Israelite, Moses "went on the run, heading east into the Sinai where he was taken in by the Midianites, and where he married the king's daughter, Zipporah. It was here that Moses was introduced to the god of the Midianite tribes, a god of storms and of war whose symbol was a crucifix - like the motif worn on their foreheads. It later became known as the 'Yahweh Mark.' This god, who lived in the mountains, provided the inspiration and central theme for the God of the Jews following Moses' conversations with Him on Mount Horeb."
Christopher Knight & Robert Lomas, The Hiram Key: Pharaohs, Freemasons and the Discovery of the Secret Scrolls of Jesus

Notice:

Manetho states that "Moses" was a High Priest.

This does not indicate that he and Pharaoh Akhenaten are one and the same..

Excellent thread ahk.


People make the mistake of assuming Moses founded Judaism.

Moses never founded a religion called Judaism.
He received the Torah and taught the same religion all the other prophets taught which was a strict moral code and the belief in one God.

The religion of Judaism as we know it was actually formulated in Babylon under the Persian empire and is actually an amalgamaion of SOME of the original laws of Moses along with many Persian and Chaldean traditions.

It was called "Judaism" because most of the Israelite who were taken captive in Babylon were of the tribe of Judah and was maintained centuries later by the Pharisee-Farsi-Persian priestly sect.


Just like Moses was usually a prefix or suffix to another name.

YHWH (Yaweh) was also a prefix to another name.

Yaweh simply means I am....but I am who?

Yawah Elah = I am Allah.