On September 17, 2006, Destee Asked The Family: "How Do We Overcome White Supremacy?"

When you consider the plight and condition of Black people both here and abroad... and the Social Tsunami you sense lurking about our cities and shorelines:
Destee's question demands an answer. However, before you do... consider this:


A) Our ancestors possessed arguably the greatest body of sacred, spiritual, and empirical knowledge on earth. Yet, the record will show, the end of an era.

B) One can argue that today we face the most sophisticated warfare system ever devised. In which case, family... we have unfinished business. So


Let me rephrase the question for You: How Do We Return to Power?


This question Not Only demands more thought and serious consideration...
this question demands an answer! Now


Take the Challenge!!!

Lokman

It boils down to 3 things: 1) Faith; 2) Aesthetics; 3) Self Sufficiency/Determination.

We must expunge foreign faiths (i.e. Islam, Christianity, etc.). We must expunge foreign aesthetics or ideals of beauty (i.e. hair straightening, light-skin preference or bleaching, etc.). We must expunge our dependency on Whites by creating our own businesses/industries (technology, agriculture, etc.), African-centered schools and institutions of higher learning, and owning our own land to develop.

Without expunging key elements, then we will continue to tell the world that we are inferior; hence perpetuating the system of White Supremacy.

By over coming African or Black Inferiority. This can only be accomplished by a knowledge of who we are, what we did, what our worth is and by once again waking up to the realization that we are the Parents of this world and all people in it. In recognizing it, we will have to claim it...if we claim it, we must be responsible for it. If we are responsible for it, we must rebuild it according to divine or ankh (life) principles. First comes knowledege, then comes the wisdom to use the knowldege, then comes action.

It boils down to 3 things: 1) Faith; 2) Aesthetics; 3) Self Sufficiency/Determination.

We must expunge foreign faiths (i.e. Islam, Christianity, etc.). We must expunge foreign aesthetics or ideals of beauty (i.e. hair straightening, light-skin preference or bleaching, etc.). We must expunge our dependency on Whites by creating our own businesses/industries (technology, agriculture, etc.), African-centered schools and institutions of higher learning, and owning our own land to develop.

Without expunging key elements, then we will continue to tell the world that we are inferior; hence perpetuating the system of White Supremacy.

True indeed.

The 4 things that I have been working on, that serve as the foundation of overcoming White Supremacy, and will work to put our people back on the path as (re)Inheritors of the earth are:

*Intellect

*Health

*Ethics

*Economics.

These things, when placed within proper perspective can and will work.

PEACE

talk is cheap; actions speak louder than words

get out go to a grassroots organization and do something

and yes i practice what i preach

Greetings ShemsiEnTehuti. A Powerful Set of Keys. Can you take this powerful key “we must expunge our dependency on Whites by creating our own businesses/industries” and turn it into
a few powerful action steps for the readers here?

Greetings Keita. A Powerful Synopsis Indeed. By way of example, can you take this power point “First comes knowledge, then comes the wisdom to use the knowledge, then comes action...”
and translate it into a powerful, real-life action scenario for the readers here?


Greetings Samurai36. Excellent Pillars of Power upon which to build. Can you give us an example of an intellectual exercise (or a series of economic action steps) readers here can apply
en route to power?

Greetings Philomath. Interesting observations. Can you give readers here the names of a few “grassroots organizations” you feel will return our people to power?


Appeciate your time, talent, insights and observations.

Lokman

P.S. Thank you all for stepping up...

This question has already been answered.

It has been answered by the many Afrikan warrior-scholars generation after generation. Afrikan Men and women like Dr. Neely Fulller, Dr. John Henrike Clarke, Kwame Ture, Dr. Wade Nobles, kwk (just to name a few) have written and lectured on How/When/Will We Return to Power.

I'm not interested in a bulleted list of solutions. We have them. I'm not interested in how eloquent you are we it comes to identifying the problems. I am, however, very interested to hear what steps we have taken to implement them.

Let us draw inspiration and ideas from each other's actions. "-What's your plan?" "-How can I help?" "-Perhaps that would work in my community!" I'm interested how we've applied our diverse talents and resources toward our freedom. "-What are the challenges you've faced?", "-What are some of the lessons you've learned?", "-What's your short-term/long-term goals?", "-Share your successes and your failures."

It is a mistake to remain locked in discussions such as this which we attempt to re-create solutions or re-state ideas. Although, I agree with replies in this thread to this point, I'd have to say that many of us heard these ideas before. Wouldn't you agree?

There is no doubt that a thorough examination must happen. (I'd assert that it has happened already). They must be identified, dissected and examined before we can even begin to apply a solution. Once the analysis is complete the solution must be applied by empowered Warrior-class.

For example, the reason books like The Mis-Education of the Negro and Black Bourgeoisie are as relevant today as they were when the where first published (in 1933 and 1957, respectfully) is that we have yet to deploy solutions.

It is time to move out of the Discovery phase and into the Development phase of the plan to develop secure Afrikan institutions capable of handling the many problems that plague our communities.

Warrior-scholars must not allow themselves to continue to indulge in circular conversations. It's a trap.


Peace.

This question have already been answered.

It has been answered by the many Afrikan warrior-scholars generation after generation. Afrikan Men and women like Dr. Neely Fulller, Dr. John Henrike Clarke, Kwame Ture, Dr. Wade Nobles, kwk (just to name a few) have written and lectured on How/When/Will We Return to Power.

I'm not interested in a bulleted list of solutions. We have them. I'm not interested in how eloquent you are we it comes to identifying the problems. I am, however, very interested to hear what steps we have taken to implement them.

Let us draw inspiration and ideas from each other's actions. "-What's your plan?" "-How can I help?" "-Perhaps that would work in my community!" I'm interested how we've applied our diverse talents and resources toward our freedom. "-What are the challenges you've faced?", "-What are some of the lessons you've learned?", "-What's your short-term/long-term goals?", "-Share your successes and your failures."

It is a mistake to remain locked in discussions such as this which we attempt to re-create solutions or re-state ideas. Although, I agree with replies in this thread to this point, I'd have to say that many of us heard these ideas before. Wouldn't you agree?

There is no doubt that a thorough examination must happen. (I'd assert that it has happened already). They must be identified, dissected and examined before we can even begin to apply a solution. Once the analysis is complete the solution must be applied by empowered Warrior-class.

For example, the reason books like The Mis-Education of the Negro and Black Bourgeoisie are as relevant today as they were when the where first published (in 1933 and 1957, respectfully) is that we have yet to deploy solutions.

It is time to move out of the Discovery phase and into the Development phase of the plan to develop secure Afrikan institutions capable of handling the many problems that plague our communities.

Warrior-scholars must not allow themselves to continue to indulge in circular conversations. It's a trap.


Peace.

Quote: "Warrior-scholars must not allow themselves to continue to indulge in corcular conversations. I'ts a trap."

True. It is a trap, in Deed.

Months ago I created a thread asking for SOLUTIONS. It was diverted into deflection. In turn I started focusing on developing my OWN "intellectual property".

Many of us come here daily, argue 24/7, yet do not financially support Destee.com. Yet, some of the same people commemorate Kwanzaa!

So much for cooperative Economics (Ujamaa").

How many are really focusing on Black Economic Empowerment? Many are good "Wordsmiths" engaging in Kemetic Sophistry but where are the Builders Constructing megolithic stuctures (i.e. Corporate Empires) employing and benefitting the African masses (i.e. working and underclass)??

Quite frankly, I am done entertaining the thoughts of folks on this site who do not put their money where their mouths are yet have a tendency to give advisement and/or chastisement to others.

On September 17, 2006, Destee Asked The Family: "How Do We Overcome White Supremacy?"

When you consider the plight and condition of Black people both here and abroad... and the Social Tsunami you sense lurking about our cities and shorelines:
Destee's question demands an answer. However, before you do... consider this:


A) Our ancestors possessed arguably the greatest body of sacred, spiritual, and empirical knowledge on earth. Yet, the record will show, the end of an era.

B) One can argue that today we face the most sophisticated warfare system ever devised. In which case, family... we have unfinished business. So


Let me rephrase the question for You: How Do We Return to Power?


This question Not Only demands more thought and serious consideration...
this question demands an answer! Now


Take the Challenge!!!

Lokman

Interestingly, you are NEW to this site and are putting others "on front street".

Let me suggest to you Brother Lokman....

Become a Premium Member and support Destee.com FINANCIALLY...

then ask what others can and/or must Do after you have done so your Self.

Until then, you are intellectually !*@^&rbating...

Greetings Lazarus. Let me hit on the highlights of your critique.


Lazarus: "Let us draw inspiration and ideas from each other's actions."

On this, we agree.


Lazarus: "It is a mistake to remain locked in discussions such as this which we attempt to re-create solutions or re-state ideas."


You presume to know where this discussion may lead? Then you are either omniscient or a prophet.

“Treatment without diagnosis is malpractice.” - (The House Of Lokman)


Lazarus: "This question have already been answered."


You may be right. However, let us examine your conclusion to be sure - okay?

Exhibit (A) The Federal Reserve has developed a number of money and credit measures that unavoidably represent a compromise among various
alternative concepts that take into account the availability of the necessary raw data, and the not always clear empirical evidence from statistical
tests relating various money and credit measures to other economic variables.

This is but one of the philosophical pillars in the economic framework of the power elite. It is one of the chief causes of our enslavement and
suffering both here and abroad. The power elite have used (and use) this philosophy to blow up entire economies and bankrupt
countless African nations.

To my knowledge, not a single author you mentioned has ever addressed it, and not one in one million people understand it let alone,
know how to counter it!



Exhibit (B) i=1 to infinity of x^i is x/(1-x)


Here we have arguably among the most destructive economic formulas ever designed by the power elite. Its impact on people of Black descent has, is,
and continues to be economically devastating! Our death toll as a result, is immeasurable.

To my knowledge, not a single author you mentioned has ever addressed it, and not one in one million people understand it let alone,
know how to counter it!


Exhibit (C) The UC Default Swap Market

In this case you have among the most deadly economic viruses and Wall Street schemes ever unleashed on Black America. It is, for all intent and purposes
currently bankrupting entire Black enclaves across this country! Even as we speak, this virus leaves in its wake, financial desperation and social despair.

To my knowledge, not a single author you mentioned has ever addressed this plague, and not one in one million people understand it let alone, know how to counter it!


We have here only 3 of the most lethal weapons ever in the arsenal of the power elite. They are not discussed on stage, screen, radio or Rap Videos.

And NOT ONE in one million know they exist; NOT ONE in one million understand how they actually work; NOT ONE in one million know how to counter them.


So really, has the question already been answered?


Nothing Further,

Lokman

To Omowalejabali,

Omowalejabali: ''Interestingly, you are NEW to this site and are putting others "on front street".


a) Has Lokman taken a wrong turn in cyberspace?
The sign read Destee Discussion Forums.

b) Is there a waiting period before one can reset a topic
or wax on a discussion of one's choosing? Please inform.

c) Has Lokman run afoul of any rules or regulations
here @ Destee.com? Owner &/or Moderators please advise.


Omowalejabali: ''Let me suggest to you Brother Lokman....

Become a Premium Member and support Destee.com FINANCIALLY...

then ask what others can and/or must Do after you have done so your Self.''


d) Do you make it a habit of corrupting threads with
commercial messages to all non- premium members?


Omowalejabali: ''Until then, you are intellectually !*@^&rbating...''


e) And yet, you choose to watch...why? No wait!!! Don't answer that.


Now, let me suggest something to you. Don't ever confuse me with one of your ''cyber playmate's in cosmic wonderland,''
and unless you have a positive contribution to make towards this thread, our discussion here... is over.


Above the Fray,

Lokman

Here we go again with creating another list of (Exhibits A-C) problems.

Also, I find it interesting that the problems you've listed have similiar theme, Economics. Do you think that is route to Freedom?
Perhaps Exhibits D-Z point out our physical, mental, spiritual and cultural enslavement.


You presume to know where this discussion may lead? Then you are either omniscient or a prophet.
I have no idea where there discussion will lead. (if I knew it was going here, I probably would have abstained from commenting.)

The question I was referring to was the original question you posed at the top of the thread. "How Do We Return to Power?" I maintain that is has already been answered. (And if you do not think the authors I've mentioned have answer that question. I invite you to dig deeper.)

Is you job only to make us aware?

"The sky is falling!" - (The House of Chicken Little)

If not, then I challenge you to take each of these items you've listed and develop a strategy or and action plan. Bring you thoughts and ideas back here and perhaps you'll find advice, assistance, and support with implementation of the plan.

To Omowalejabali,

Omowalejabali: ''Interestingly, you are NEW to this site and are putting others "on front street".


a) Has Lokman taken a wrong turn in cyberspace?
The sign read Destee Discussion Forums.

b) Is there a waiting period before one can reset a topic
or wax on a discussion of one's choosing? Please inform.

c) Has Lokman run afoul of any rules or regulations
here @ Destee.com? Owner &/or Moderators please advise.


Omowalejabali: ''Let me suggest to you Brother Lokman....

Become a Premium Member and support Destee.com FINANCIALLY...

then ask what others can and/or must Do after you have done so your Self.''


d) Do you make it a habit of corrupting threads with
commercial messages to all non- premium members?


Omowalejabali: ''Until then, you are intellectually !*@^&rbating...''


e) And yet, you choose to watch...why? No wait!!! Don't answer that.


Now, let me suggest something to you. Don't ever confuse me with one of your ''cyber playmate's in cosmic wonderland,''
and unless you have a positive contribution to make towards this thread, our discussion here... is over.


Above the Fray,

Lokman


Above the Fray??!

I'm not corrupting anything. The FACT is you are johnny cumming late to a discussion, taking it out of it's context and attempting to create your own laundry list, missing the point of Sister Destee in the first place.....Which was asked in reference to People NOT supporting Destee.com FINANCIALLY!

How can you take the Essence, throw it out and then serve us with a Form devoid of substance?

By the awy, I am not waiting, or watching for anything.

I answered the question....let me reiterate....PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS!

Originally Posted by Destee
Peace and Blessings Family,

I'm looking for any suggestions, ideas, etc., regarding what we can do to overcome this world-wide system of white supremacy.

Please share. Thanks.



Destee

Peace and Blessings Family,

Brother Lokman ... i'm glad you brought this question back to the forefront, because even though it's been written about, talked about, argued over, etc., no solution that we've successfully implemented has yet to produce itself. While i do think that many have presented viable concepts, for whatever reason, we fail to follow through. In addition, if there are any Sisters and Brothers like i used to be, totally unaware of the pervasiveness of white supremacy, or that it even exists, they too may be enlightened by our keeping the topic on the table.

Brother Omowale ... i just love you ... i appreciate your diligence in helping to remind the Family that this community won't survive without financial support. Even though we spend lots of time discussing unity, supporting ourselves, etc., and how that is an integral part of any hope for overcoming white supremacy ... many come here day after day ... talking that talk ... and never being moved in their Spirit to help keep the lights on. Some who are here regularly, acting as though they are down for our people, do nothing financially to help, while using our resources, taking part in the feast found here. Simply taking advantage of what a few (http://destee.com/forums/memberlist.php) other Sisters and Brothers help to provide. This is a very sad commentary for us, and no one can be sadder about it than me. Brother O ... i really do appreciate your effort. I get tired of always being the one to have to ask the Family to help, only to be ignored in most cases. It kinda breaks my heart a little, but i know what motivates this self-destructive behavior, and i can only hope that with more exposure to the positive energy created by our communing together in such a peaceful and respectful manner, we will overcome it. Thanks Brother O.

But Brother O ... let's not beat up on Brother Lokman. He may decide to become a Premium Member. Premium Membership is not required, as i want and believe that our helping each other must come from our heart. It must be what one wants to do. I want to do what i'm doing here, making the sacrifices i have over all these years, and that's my hope for others as well. While we can fuss at Brother Lokman, or any new Member coming here, there are a whole bunch of old Members here, that have never been moved inside themselves to help ... some even fixing their mouth to say they will never help, yet they continue to come ... so let's not be too hard on the new folk.

Brother Lazarus ... i love you and am really really really glad to see you taking part in the discussions again! :love:

Much Love and Peace Yall.

:heart:

Destee

Peace and Blessings Family,

Brother Lokman ... i'm glad you brought this question back to the forefront, because even though it's been written about, talked about, argued over, etc., no solution that we've successfully implemented has yet to produce itself. While i do think that many have presented viable concepts, for whatever reason, we fail to follow through. In addition, if there are any Sisters and Brothers like i used to be, totally unaware of the pervasiveness of white supremacy, or that it even exists, they too may be enlightened by our keeping the topic on the table.

Brother Omowale ... i just love you ... i appreciate your diligence in helping to remind the Family that this community won't survive without financial support. Even though we spend lots of time discussing unity, supporting ourselves, etc., and how that is an integral part of any hope for overcoming white supremacy ... many come here day after day ... talking that talk ... and never being moved in their Spirit to help keep the lights on. Some who are here regularly, acting as though they are down for our people, do nothing financially to help, while using our resources, taking part in the feast found here. Simply taking advantage of what a few (http://destee.com/forums/memberlist.php) other Sisters and Brothers help to provide. This is a very sad commentary for us, and no one can be sadder about it than me. Brother O ... i really do appreciate your effort. I get tired of always being the one to have to ask the Family to help, only to be ignored in most cases. It kinda breaks my heart a little, but i know what motivates this self-destructive behavior, and i can only hope that with more exposure to the positive energy created by our communing together in such a peaceful and respectful manner, we will overcome it. Thanks Brother O.

But Brother O ... let's not beat up on Brother Lokman. He may decide to become a Premium Member. Premium Membership is not required, as i want and believe that our helping each other must come from our heart. It must be what one wants to do. I want to do what i'm doing here, making the sacrifices i have over all these years, and that's my hope for others as well. While we can fuss at Brother Lokman, or any new Member coming here, there are a whole bunch of old Members here, that have never been moved inside themselves to help ... some even fixing their mouth to say they will never help, yet they continue to come ... so let's not be too hard on the new folk.

Brother Lazarus ... i love you and am really really really glad to see you taking part in the discussions again! :love:

Much Love and Peace Yall.

:heart:

Destee

Please excuse me family, no offense intended. (i hear you Queen-Mother Destee :shades: )

Let me answer the question directly so that my point is not lost.

We can defeat white supremacy by promoting Black Business Development. At the root of white supremacy (i.e. Racism) is economic inequality and class oppression. In a practical manner, what I have done over the years (in addition to teaching and mentoring youth) is focusing on Black Business Development.

That may not be the answer for some people but for me it's a start.

Peace.

Synthesize the heart of what Lazarus, Lokman and philomath are saying...and the essence is the same.

They're all talking about action or strategies for action.

Is this the start of Destee.com growing into a community organization as opposed to an "organized community?"

Larazus: "Here we go again with creating another list of (Exhibits A-C) problems."

On the contrary, how can we do twice what we have never done once?
To my knowledge, exhibits A-C are serious firsts which we have never
addressed as Black people.

Lazarus: "Also, I find it interesting that the problems you've listed have similiar theme, Economics. Do you think that is route to Freedom?"

What are 4 things Black nations have in common?

1. Weak and anemic economies.
2. Abject poverty and economic vulnerability which opens us up too blackmail.
3. Natural resources that are owned and controlled by agents of the power elite.
4. Assets that serve as collateral for loans we can never repay the power elite.


Lazarus: "Perhaps Exhibits D-Z point out our physical, mental, spiritual and cultural enslavement."

Perhaps you are right.


Lazarus: I have no idea where there discussion will lead.

Join the club (smile).


Lazarus: '"How Do We Return to Power?" I maintain that is has already been answered."

Maybe you underestimate the adversary. The endgame of the power elite is the
most sophisticated game on the board. Ever evolving... it is the most advanced
of any game too date. Thus, in some cases

What you may have are answers that prepare us for hand to hand combat,
when the power elite have the economic, political, and psychological
warfare equivalents of: stealth warplanes, trident submarines, and surface to
air missiles. Trust you understand the analogy.


Lazarus: "(And if you do not think the authors I've mentioned have answer that question.
I invite you to dig deeper.)"

You can count on it.

Lazarus: "Is you job only to make us aware?"

My task is to identify, prioritize, and neutralize real existing and incoming threats and design stealth offensive innovations.


To Be Continued...


Lokman

To Destee,

Appreciate your clarity, commitment, veracity and vision.
Indeed, You are a jewel among gems. (Smile)

Baskets Of Blessings to You & Yours,

Lokman

Greetings Samurai36. Excellent Pillars of Power upon which to build. Can you give us an example of an intellectual exercise (or a series of economic action steps) readers here can apply
en route to power?
Appeciate your time, talent, insights and observations.

Lokman



PEACE BROTHER LOKMAN:

Please pardon my delayed response; I had not noticed prior to now, the development of this thread (such as it were).

First, let me say, I like you screen name!! Especially the deeper meaning behind it....How did you come to choose it?

As to your question:

Can you give us an example of an intellectual exercise...... {truncated} readers here can apply en route to power?

Sure.

Many actions that people in general--especially our people--endeavor in, are done so without any level of intellectual resource fueling it.

Many of the driving factors behind our lives, and the "struggles" that we engage in particular, are based on rhetoric and propoganda, rather than unabated information.

Everything from politics, religion, education, jobs, economics, health, entertainment, on down to how we choose a mate, is performed based on our lower reasoning faculties, rather than our higher ones.

Poet JAMES ALLEN once wrote in his book AS A MAN THINKETH:

Mind is the Master power that moulds and makes,
And Man is Mind, and evermore he takes
The tool of Thought, and, shaping what he wills,
Brings forth a thousand joys, a thousand ills:—
He thinks in secret, and it comes to pass:
Environment is but his looking-glass.

Thus, if we think on a "lower level", thus will be the fruits of all of our thoughts--lower level.

Firstly, we must examine the pathos that brought us to the point where we are.....How did the writers of spiritual texts, the performers of Brain Surgery, and the builders of complex monuments, become barely-thinking peoples?

We learn in the study of our struggle in this society, that we have barely had less than a century of proper academic development.

http://www.legacymuseum.org/Struggle/slavery/slavery.htm

Far fewer slaves than free blacks were educated. Some owners saw education as a way of increasing the efficiency of the labor force. Others wanted both enslaved and free African Americans to learn to read so that they could understand the principles of Christianity. The Bible was often a slave’s only book.

In 1831, a Virginia law made it illegal for African Americans, whether enslaved or free, to learn to read. The fear of an uprising prompted whites to discourage all activities, including literacy, that might enable blacks to organize. Literacy among slaves threatened the institution of slavery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_education#Illiteracy

African Americans were once denied equal educations. Even as late as 1947, about one third of African Americans over 65 were considered to lack the literacy to read and write their own names. However, by 1969, illiteracy as it had been traditionally defined had been largely eradicated among African Americans the number of among young adults was less than one percent, though African Americans still lag in more stringent definitions of document literacy. Inability to read, write or speak english in America today is largely an issue for immigrants, mostly from Asia and Latin America.

This lack of development continues to hurt us on many levels, and I'm not merely speaking of schooling and education.

There is a difference between being able to intellectualize and idea, and being force to rehearse and regurgitate one. The latter is what we learn to do in school--and even then, many of our people are barely even good at doing that.

Our people are programmed to be anti-intellectual; enemies of intellect. Most of our decisions in life are based on sensationalism (how we feel about things) rather than intellectualism or perception (what we know about things).

We know very little about the world, yet we are prepared to believe any and everything about it.

Some things we can do to spark and enhance our intellectual growth and development:

*Do not make any decisions (ranging from the simple to the complex) without first gaining as much info on the subject as possible.

*Spend a year learning about a new subject, and only for the sake of learning it and for no other reason, and dedicating a reasonable amount of resources to this end.

*Appyling the above steps to your efforts as a Black person.

These are but a few things that can begin to awake up the higher reasoning faculties within our dormant minds.

PEACE

"Greetings Brother SAMURAI36, Trust You Are Well
and Glad you could make it. Definitely Want to Hit
on a few of the Highlights Here, So Lets Get to It!"


SAM: Many actions that people in general--especially our people--endeavor in, are done so without any level of intellectual resource fueling it.

SAM: Many of the driving factors behind our lives, and the "struggles" that we engage in particular, are based on rhetoric and propoganda, rather than unabated information.


Good Stuff! Let me underscore your candid observations with the following:


''When overwhelmed (by what appears to be rapidly unfolding events), most of us slip into the film room of our minds and scramble to
download a series of mental images from which is born our sense of reality. Post haste, our opinions crystallize regarding events of
which we admittedly have but a smidgen of truth, little knowledge, and undoubtedly, few facts. In which case

Behavior, then, is not stimulated by the actual reality, but by the pseudo-environment and/or psychological implants inside our heads.
Thus the continuum of images and feelings we manufacture in our quasi-reality serve as 'conduits' for irrational thought and action.

Consequently a pseudo-reality and twisted logic, by-in-large, are what eventually form the basis of and passes as, public opinion.'' - (House Of Lokman)


SAM: "Thus, if we think on a "lower level", thus will be the fruits of all of our thoughts--lower level."

Co-sign. And will put up the down payment on top of it!


SAM: "Firstly, we must examine the pathos that brought us to the point where we are.....How did the writers of spiritual texts, the performers of Brain Surgery, and the builders of complex monuments, become barely-thinking peoples?"


Stop! The Power of Proper Pathos and The Right Question. Yes Sir.


SAM: "Our people are programmed to be anti-intellectual; enemies of intellect. Most of our decisions in life are based on sensationalism (how we feel about things) rather than intellectualism or perception (what we know about things)."

Extremely salient and powerful points! Family, Take a Look....

“Intellect as Adversary of The Soul” - (Ludwig Klages)

“We must cultivate a hatred of intelligence” - (Futurist Filippo Marinetti, John the Baptist of Fascism)

Before you can torment, terrorize and control a people, you must first intellectually lobotomize them. Case in point,
as classic works and philosophers like the above found their genesis in Germany, the world stage was set for this man:

“The intellect has grown autocratic, and has become a disease of life. You must distrust intelligence and conscience, ...
trust your feelings or whatever you call them....'' (Adolf Hitler)


SAM: "We know very little about the world, yet we are prepared to believe any and everything about it."

Your astute observation here is brilliantly illustrated in: ''Plato's Cave.''


Appreciate all of those minerals for the mind Brother SAMURAI36. A very nutritious offering. Our thinking should improve immediately!
Well Done, Well Done Indeed. Peace&Benefits.


Who Got Next?

Lokman

P.S. About the name Lokman, well, it has been in our family for generations. And we continue to pass it along (like we have a choice - smile).

"Greetings Brother SAMURAI36, Trust You Are Well
and Glad you could make it. Definitely Want to Hit
on a few of the Highlights Here, So Lets Get to It!"

Indeed I am well, and I was looking forward to your response....Without a doubt, you did not disappoint, on both points of delivery and content.

''When overwhelmed (by what appears to be rapidly unfolding events), most of us slip into the film room of our minds and scramble to
download a series of mental images from which is born our sense of reality. Post haste, our opinions crystallize regarding events of
which we admittedly have but a smidgen of truth, little knowledge, and undoubtedly, few facts. In which case

Behavior, then, is not stimulated by the actual reality, but by the pseudo-environment and/or psychological implants inside our heads.
Thus the continuum of images and feelings we manufacture in our quasi-reality serve as 'conduits' for irrational thought and action.

Consequently a pseudo-reality and twisted logic, by-in-large, are what eventually form the basis of and passes as, public opinion.'' - (House Of Lokman)

This is your elucidation? Brilliant.

This moves along the very same parallel of my ideas....

One phrase that I have coined, is "language facilitates intellect", and that is a concept that I see aspects of within your statements (emboldened above).

In most ancient cultures (see my mini-thesis here: http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45264), native peoples (Africans and other people of Color) used iconagraphy as their means of written communication.

This was extremely important in the development not only of human intellect, but also spiritual aspirations.

A brief understanding of how this works:

I am going to type a word, and I want any who read this to close their eyes, and conjure an image:































BOLONGA SANDWICH.



































Now, what came to mind?

Most likely, the image of a piece of meat, between 2 pieces of bread came into your mind.

Most unlikely, did the word "B-O-L-O-G-N-A-S-A-N-D-W-I-C-H" manifest, on a blank white canvas (not dissimilar to the one you are reading from now) appear in your mind.

That is because the human mind envisions reality based on imagery, not phoenetic symbology.

In Japanese, the icon for "house" is an actual house, or at least a picture of one.

We can go all day with this one point, but I'm sure you are able to fathom my meaning.




Stop! The Power of Proper Pathos and The Right Question. Yes Sir.


Extremely salient and powerful points! Family, Take a Look....

“Intellect as Adversary of The Soul” - (Ludwig Klages)

“We must cultivate a hatred of intelligence” - (Futurist Filippo Marinetti, John the Baptist of Fascism)

Before you can torment, terrorize and control a people, you must first intellectually lobotomize them. Case in point,
as classic works and philosophers like the above found their genesis in Germany, the world stage was set for this man:

“The intellect has grown autocratic, and has become a disease of life. You must distrust intelligence and conscience, ...
trust your feelings or whatever you call them....'' (Adolf Hitler)

Indeed, I am quite familiar with these works, as well as the authors of them.

This is how you know that you are dealing with a BEAST of the worst sort; these same men who venerate themselves as "philosophers", would urge the masses to divorce themselves from the premise of intellect.

Why? What is their motive? Well, that is easily seen, in the product of the masses.

DONALD TRUMP and BILL GATES would never want an overly significant amount of the public to become rich, because that would alter their "pseudo-environment" (to borrow your phrase, ;) )--one that insists that they are rich......If others are as "rich" as they are, what then becomes of the concept of "wealth"?

The concept of intellect is no different.

White people hoarde all the intellect, much in the same way that they hoarde wealth.


Your astute observation here is brilliantly illustrated in: ''Plato's Cave.''

Indeed, this is one of my favorite parables.

Appreciate all of those minerals for the mind Brother SAMURAI36. A very nutritious offering. Our thinking should improve immediately!

Any time, looking forward to the next round. :)

Lokman

P.S. About the name Lokman, well, it has been in our family for generations. And we continue to pass it along (like we have a choice - smile).

I figured as much. I'd like to know how the passing of this name has impacted you, as well as your family.

PEACE

Greetings of Peace Destee Family- this is a very important question:
“How Do We Return To Power.”

If I can add to this conversation. Let’s look closer at the question. How Do “We” return to power, implies our people, our different minds, our different perspectives. What we are failing to realizing is that some of these solutions can’t be comprehend by a large portion of our people. Sure, some of these solutions will work for the conscious, the spiritual, the intellectual African thinkers, but what about the Brotha or Sista who is programmed otherwise?

How Do “We” Return To Power? First we must recognize who this “We” is, not everyone who has a black skin is interested in this Return to Power. Unless someone creates a proposal for a re-programming machine that we can strap our degenerates down into, and give them back their African minds- then we can have a broader collective interest in Returning to Power. It seems the Enemy already has his machine called Mass Media.

A real world solution would be to create and control a mass media system that helps Africans to re-program themselves, to educate themselves about their power. To service these Africans with visual and audio information that repairs their broken self-image and cultural bondage to Earth.

Keep in mind also there are several different brain patterns among our people, and we must learn how to assess and arrest them all. There are even those in the conscious Black movements who are there solely to distract and delay the majority of our people from this return to power for the wealth of their own egos.

There is Esoteric power that we all can attain. Its begins with learning how to turn the body off, and shutting down the mind. This should be part of the collective curriculum for our people. The truth is, this is what controls our people as we speak. We need the power of mass media to intercept these energies that dominant them. The physical world is a projected illusion of the micro/spirit world. We can’t return to power if our majority don’t understand this. So in order for the rest of us to understand it, there has to be a safe and effective method of transferring this information.

I say “safe” because the internet is not a safe place for these conversations if we really wanted to go deeper into what we should really do. I am speaking mainly of dark magiks that have successfully altered space/time on this level of reality. This is not power some of us are ready for. I am speaking about our natural ability to harness electro magnetic energy and disable the forces around matter. The only safe way to transfer this information, is perhaps if we had our own language. We do have our own language. The drum. If we learned how to access the language of the drum again we would have a profound way to transfer our knowledge without the enemy decoding or reading it.

solution: Our very own mass media system using the talking drum so the elite powers those who can teach the others how to manipulate reality can educate the common African who is lost.

On September 17, 2006, Destee Asked The Family: "How Do We Overcome White Supremacy?"

When you consider the plight and condition of Black people both here and abroad... and the Social Tsunami you sense lurking about our cities and shorelines:
Destee's question demands an answer. However, before you do... consider this:


A) Our ancestors possessed arguably the greatest body of sacred, spiritual, and empirical knowledge on earth. Yet, the record will show, the end of an era.

B) One can argue that today we face the most sophisticated warfare system ever devised. In which case, family... we have unfinished business. So


Let me rephrase the question for You: How Do We Return to Power?


This question Not Only demands more thought and serious consideration...
this question demands an answer! Now


Take the Challenge!!!

Lokman

Jer:3:21: A voice was heard upon the high places, weeping and supplications of the children of Israel: for they have perverted their way, and they have forgotten the LORD their God.

We will always be subservient to the white man until we start to undo what GOD has Spoken.

And please do not get this confused with Jesus. Our GOD is the GOD manifested in the Old Testament and Holy Scriptures, the One temptation has taught us to hate, reject, despise and turn away from.

It is GOD that crushes us and nothing else because we reject HIM and curse HIM everyday.

Greetings Philomath. Interesting observations. Can you give readers here the names of a few “grassroots organizations” you feel will return our people to power?



haven't read the whole thread, but grassroots organization are generally community based. the ones in my area probably aren't tailored for your community.

find an issue important to you. spread the idea and your solution. garner support. contact news stations. attempt to enact legislation or change legislation to suit you situation. this is very often more effective than waiting for the government to change it for you.

education is important. revitalize the role of education in the community. encourage people to own property and take pride in where they live. eradicate drug dealers and gangs; stop treating them like heroes or necessary evils.

power must be earned. no one is going to give 5 million dollars to someone who mismanages 50 dollars. one must demonstrate their ability rather than assume the position. it's bette to take small steps and fumble at the early stage then to take great leaps into the abyss

what are your solutions?

Jer:3:21: A voice was heard upon the high places, weeping and supplications of the children of Israel: for they have perverted their way, and they have forgotten the LORD their God.

We will always be subservient to the white man until we start to undo what GOD has Spoken.

And please do not get this confused with Jesus. Our GOD is the GOD manifested in the Old Testament and Holy Scriptures, the One temptation has taught us to hate, reject, despise and turn away from.

It is GOD that crushes us and nothing else because we reject HIM and curse HIM everyday.

lol that sounds very defeatist and is a great way to avoid dealing with the situation.

blacks were very religious and were still enslaved and abused during slavery and jim crow and to a different extent these days. the same religion was used to justify all sorts of things and yet again it used to justify why things aren't going the "right" way

lack of knowledge of the Bible and misinterpretation of the Scripture has hurt blacks far more than many other things.

lol that sounds very defeatist and is a great way to avoid dealing with the situation.

blacks were very religious and were still enslaved and abused during slavery and jim crow and to a different extent these days. the same religion was used to justify all sorts of things and yet again it used to justify why things aren't going the "right" way

lack of knowledge of the Bible and misinterpretation of the Scripture has hurt blacks far more than many other things.
But we had turned our backs on the Supreme Being and started worshiping lesser gods, demigods and derivatives of the Supreme Being, all the gods of Egypt attest to that fact. That is why we were enslaved. Once the white man learned what makes us weak as a people he shoved Jesus down our throats which keeps us worshipping a lesser god, which keeps us weak and even weaker because Jesus can be directly linked to Sons of GOD. Sons of GOD can be directly linked to the dark forces of Temptation (Lucifer, Satan Osiris, Ogo, The Jackal, Nefilim, the Fallen and the Morning Star) that causes us to reject GOD.

GOD clearly manifests the thought that once we turn back to HIM and serve HIM as we did in ancient, ancient Africa as being the first people of the earth that we will rise above our conquers.

If I can read the Old Testament and see this, so can the white man.

The white man did not come to us with the Old Testament he came to us with the New Testament and told us the Old Testament was old news and the ways of uncivilized people or the ways of another people called Jews. In reality the Old Testament reveals the black mans GOD, religion and history.

As long as you reject your past you will have no future and exist as subservient.

But we had turned our backs on the Supreme Being and started worshiping lesser gods, demigods and derivatives of the Supreme Being, all the gods of Egypt attest to that fact. That is why we were enslaved. Once the white man learned what makes us weak as a people he shoved Jesus down our throats which keeps us worshipping a lesser god, which keeps us weak and even weaker because Jesus can be directly linked to Sons of GOD. Sons of GOD can be directly linked to the dark forces of Temptation (Lucifer, Satan Osiris, Ogo, The Jackal, Nefilim, the Fallen and the Morning Star) that causes us to reject GOD.

GOD clearly manifests the thought that once we turn back to HIM and serve HIM as we did in ancient, ancient Africa as being the first people of the earth that we will rise above our conquers.

If I can read the Old Testament and see this, so can the white man.

The white man did not come to us with the Old Testament he came to us with the New Testament and told us the Old Testament was old news and the ways of uncivilized people or the ways of another people called Jews. In reality the Old Testament reveals the black mans GOD, religion and history.

As long as you reject your past you will have no future and exist as subservient.


like i said this is just a handy way to avoid responsibility. whites weren't any more religious than blacks if anything they were more pagan and were often the ones destroying knowledge and memory of the original god

so why were they the masters?

blacks can believe in any religious structure that betters them and their people but to say that everything is the result of God's distaste makes no sense. it also has slightly racist undertones, as if you are somewhat implying that whites are holier, thus living up to their id of white, ie pure,

psuedoreligion and false religiosity has done more to hurt blacks than any master. many blacks are ostracized for being gay because the religious text speak ill of it, yet many seem to miss the text regarding fornication, adultery, murder, etc.

blacks must take the power and stop seeing their situation as some sort of unfortunate circumstance caused by fate gone awry or something. depending on God to do it is great but I doubt if God wants them to sit by the side and wait.

I notice in other cultures there doesn't seem to be this lag between desire and action especially in regards to safeguarding future generations.

noone is going to give you anything. it must be taken by force. did you get knowledge of self freely or did you have to search for it?

so why were they the masters?


Deut:28:48: Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

Deut:32:21: They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.

Our struggle is with GOD, not the white man. The white man is nothing more than a ghost, an illusion a tool of the Great GOD to teach us.


blacks can believe in any religious structure that betters them and their people but to say that everything is the result of God's distaste makes no sense.

It makes sense to me because I study what has been Spoken, what has been Prophesied.


noone is going to give you anything. it must be taken by force. did you get knowledge of self freely or did you have to search for it?

I searched it out.

"How Do We Overcome White Supremacy?"

Good question. Very good question. Unfortunately there isn't one simple answer to such a complex problem.

For Black people in Amerikkka to overcome white supremacy an event catastrophic several times the magnitude of Katrina (whether it be man made or by nature) may occur before we decide to wake up. I pray that I'm wrong. And I'm not trying to be pesstimistic. But the reality of the matter is we as a people are far too comfortable with white folk and co-dependent on white folk for our survival.

When Black people cease to be co-dependent no longer can we be held hostage to an evil system of values which is white supremacy. Self-sufficiency, self-sustaining and nationalism is the answer. Once we achieve our self-imposed independence white supremacy will be nothing more than a relic.

History says people generally overcome psychological and social adversity imposed on them at the hands of another after suffering under conditions which threatens their culture, right of passage, way of life and in some instances their survival. You would think we would have learned this valuable lesson with four hundred years of brutal slavery and one hundred years of jim crow (semi-slavery) but unfortunatley this is not the case. Only when Black realize white people are not our God do we sever ourselves from those who have no interest in economic nor social justice - which of course would threaten their percieved notion of supremacy. However if we remain with the status quo white supremacy will remain with us.

I can't wait on white folk to destroy white supremacy - because it gonna happen. And I'm not intersted in racial relations. Those who seek racial relations are those who can't provide for themselves. So, it's entirely up to us to get our collective minds together and shut the door on those who want to relegate our existence if we truly desire to overcome white supremacy.