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kemetkind
10-03-2006, 09:15 AM
From what I have read thus far, It seems the ultimate goal of metu neter is to unite completely with the internal divine intelligence and to thus return to oneness with the creator.

On a few occassions the metu neter implies this ascension is beyond race, which it may be, but also that at higher levels of spiritual ascension one rises above being involved in the conflicts of man.

This reminds me of christian doctrine, as well as the actual mention in the Metu Neter of the phrase "turn the other cheek."

If the ultimate goal of the Metu Neter is a peaceful state of becoming divine, what practical changes could this system produce in our current position in the hierarchy of races?

Does the ultimate purpose of the metu neter produce any different outcome than doctrines which advocate our spiritual rewards will exist in another life and on another plane, and not the physical one?

jamesfrmphilly
10-03-2006, 10:12 AM
from my understanding it teaches that you may change and control your emotional reactions.
this is not the same as "turn the other cheek".

SAMURAI36
10-03-2006, 11:29 AM
In addition to what the Brother Elder stated, I'd like to add my own perspective:

From what I have read thus far, It seems the ultimate goal of metu neter is to unite completely with the internal divine intelligence and to thus return to oneness with the creator.

True indeed.

On a few occassions the metu neter implies this ascension is beyond race, which it may be, but also that at higher levels of spiritual ascension one rises above being involved in the conflicts of man.

While this is partially true, the distinction between race still exsists--especially as it pertains to spirituality.

Remember, as previously stated, heirarchy plays a part in this, as it does in all things.

The Sheqhem Ur Sheqhem has stated before in various lectures (the info of which has been alluded to in Metu Neter), that the White man resonates on a completely different frequency than other human families of the planet.

We also learn, that one's KHA (Spirit) is essential a frequency of energy. Just as we know that not all frequencies can reach the same peak of vibration, the same applies to white people in their so-called "quests" for ascension.

This limiation on their part has ben evidenced all throughout history, and it's something that not only should be kept in consideration, but also never underestimated.

This reminds me of christian doctrine, as well as the actual mention in the Metu Neter of the phrase "turn the other cheek."

Not at all.

I don't think that you have read far enough into the theology, as demonstrated within the book, in order to come to this as an absolute conclusion.

The Society as a whole is taught the age-old addage in the same vein of SUN TZU:

"Come in Peace, but be prepared for War".

This is evinced in the fact that, not only within the theology--where HERUKHUTI is the Neteru of War, Combat, Aggression, etc, but also within the structure of the Society, where martial arts classes are held (in a similar fashion to the FOI in the Nation Of Islam).


If the ultimate goal of the Metu Neter is a peaceful state of becoming divine, what practical changes could this system produce in our current position in the hierarchy of races?

The misnomer, amongst many, lies in the misinterpretation of "PEACE".

PEACE is the absence of confusion. It does not mean a passive or submissive state.

A Rabbit eating steak, and a Lion eating carrots, is not a state of PEACE. Nor were you meant to walk on your hands, or eat food with your toes.

PEACE is all things working in unison, based on their function, to achieve the Universal goal.

Does the ultimate purpose of the metu neter produce any different outcome than doctrines which advocate our spiritual rewards will exist in another life and on another plane, and not the physical one?

Yes, the difference is gargantuan.

Spiritual ascension is all about what takes place on this earth, in this realm.

The goal is to improve this exsistence. All others, while significant, are still subsequent. It is this realm where the ground work is laid, and the initiation begins.

HOTEPU

emanuel goodman
10-03-2006, 07:12 PM
From what I have read thus far, It seems the ultimate goal of metu neter is to unite completely with the internal divine intelligence and to thus return to oneness with the creator.

On a few occassions the metu neter implies this ascension is beyond race, which it may be, but also that at higher levels of spiritual ascension one rises above being involved in the conflicts of man.

This reminds me of christian doctrine, as well as the actual mention in the Metu Neter of the phrase "turn the other cheek."

If the ultimate goal of the Metu Neter is a peaceful state of becoming divine, what practical changes could this system produce in our current position in the hierarchy of races?

Does the ultimate purpose of the metu neter produce any different outcome than doctrines which advocate our spiritual rewards will exist in another life and on another plane, and not the physical one?


my take on the metu neter and it's uni versal amplications are as such. The metu provides one pathway(not the only pathway) to taking over control of your animalistic part of your being in short. if one can be pro active regarding energy in motion and not reactive thus he is control of what will happen. The average hu man does not full overstand what being in the image and likeness of the creator means. They tend to think this has some thing to do with physical appearances. The image and likeness has to do with the hidden intelligence (amen) . This is the key component once our hu or amen is fully developed (ie the other 93 percent of the brain that modern science claims that is not being used) is fully developed we become an ausar" such as anuk ausar meaning i am ausar meaning the divine intelligence has been joined to the animalistic portion. ntr, neters, nature did not operate based on emotion, they controlled thier energy in motion to speed up or slow down thier vibrations causing thier atomic structure to go threw a chemical change. These are the things about our spritual system ( that was physical mind u) that those of west coined my steries. The metu neter is the manifestation of the thought process of mister ra un nefer amen. please brother read it until it is overstood and apply it to your truth system-maat-. What does not work for u disregrad! that is what i do. The ultimate goal my brother is to become
an independent thinker. There is much to learn and digest regarding the order of things. AS i inform a lot of my brothers and sisters coming from the karastian faith. do not be surpise by some simalarites u find(and u will find a lot of them) starting with the supposed 10 commandments found in the torah which means the law. This law was loosely based on the law of the neteru with a little elumaish (for flava). Starting with the first book gen isis or the the genelogy(geb=earth) of isis. peace is the altimate goal hotep my brother u should be at peace at all time no matter what is going on around u. This in no means turn the other cheek. It means do not get let your emotions control u control your emotions are u in the image of the creator or not?

SAMURAI36
10-04-2006, 07:51 AM
True indeed.

HOTEP

Sami_RaMaati
10-05-2006, 12:53 AM
From what I have read thus far, It seems the ultimate goal of metu neter is to unite completely with the internal divine intelligence and to thus return to oneness with the creator.
That’s one way to look at it. Technically speaking though, the goal is to resurrect the indwelling intelligence in order to share in the attributes of God which are Omnipotence, Omnipresence, and Omniscience. Along the way, you will learn to exert complete control of your emotional reaction to any adverse situation you encounter and be able to respond more intelligently.

On a few occassions the metu neter implies this ascension is beyond race, which it may be, but also that at higher levels of spiritual ascension one rises above being involved in the conflicts of man.
This is a little tricky to answer but I’ll give it a try.

First of all, the demelaninated ones, probably for biological reasons (my own speculation), can’t go all the way to the top in this system.

Addressing the issue of conflict, in the ideal society, the upper echelon leaders would be people who have undergone a prolonged period of rigorous spiritual training--Afrikan style--rather than lying, crooked politicians. Such people would be able to fashion laws and create a culture that would be able to anticipate (using the faculty of Omniscience) and thus avoid conflicts, or, should such a conflict occur, be able to achieve a just and lasting peace among the disputants. The Maat, Herukhuti & Heru people would be the administrators of this society, and the Herukhuti people, the enforcers of divine law, would be the ones to get their hands dirty if need be. It has been stated in one of the volumes of “Metu Neter” that Herukhuti comes not to start wars, but to end them.

[Note: Herukhuti is the deity that governs the police & military]

In our ideal society, the Maat, Herukhuti and Heru people would also have to undergo a prolonged course of spiritual training. Thus, no spiritually immature people (i.e., slick talking politicians) would be allowed to occupy any position of authority. This is how our ancestors used to roll before the white man gave us democracy, that system of government where 3 wolves & a sheep get together and vote on what's for dinner.
This reminds me of christian doctrine, as well as the actual mention in the Metu Neter of the phrase "turn the other cheek."This is far from turn the other cheek. In one of his lectures, the author recently said that if someone is attacking you and you know kung fu, then kung fu ‘em.
If the ultimate goal of the Metu Neter is a peaceful state of becoming divine, what practical changes could this system produce in our current position in the hierarchy of races?
If used as directed, it can produce profound changes in every aspect of our lives, both individually and collectively. For example, 99.99% of us are in the Sahu stage (spheres 7, 8, & 9) and hence spiritually immature. Thus, using meditations and rituals, we work on developing a more balanced Het-Heru (7), Sebek (8), and Auset (9) faculties. This makes us more “intelligent” (Sebek sphere 8), more able to use the "e-motion" of joy as the engine of our success (Het-Heru, sphere 7) and instills in us a devotion to resurrect the indwelling divinity Ausar (using Auset, sphere 9, which also governs learning and memory). We also work on Geb (sphere 10) by proper dietary practices, herbs, Yoga, Qi Gong, and other fitness regimes. (In our tradition, good physical health is a prerequisite to optimum spiritual growth).

We also work on other faculties such as Heru (6th sphere). A well developed and balanced Heru enables us make decisions based on input from the divine wisdom faculty (Tehuti-the 2nd sphere) rather that on emotions. If you’ve read the story of Ausar, Auset, and Heru, you’ll notice that no matter how mighty a warrior Heru was, he was not able to defeat his evil uncle Set (which represent the animal part of the spirit–the devil that makes us “do it”) until he received guidance from Tehuti, the wisdom faculty. Heru also enables us to see thru b.s. that euroman throws our way on a daily basis (hence the significance of the Eye of Heru–do you SEE what I’m saying?), as well as governing our leadership and administrative abilities.

Now, can you imagine how much further along we would be as a people if say, 10% of us were to fully develop our Heru faculties? Imagine 1 in 10 black people fully awakened and functioning at a very high level with stellar leadership qualities and the wisdom of God. (Think of how profoundly our collective consciousness was transformed in the 60's & 70's when less than 1% of our leadership had only partially developed Heru faculties)
Does the ultimate purpose of the metu neter produce any different outcome than doctrines which advocate our spiritual rewards will exist in another life and on another plane, and not the physical one?Yes it does. See my answer to the question preceding this one.

kemetkind
10-05-2006, 04:35 AM
Much appreciation to Samurai, Emanuel Goodman and Sami_RaMaati for the thorough responses...they are well received.

Peace

MenNefer
02-03-2007, 01:23 AM
From what I have read thus far, It seems the ultimate goal of metu neter is to unite completely with the internal divine intelligence and to thus return to oneness with the creator.

On a few occassions the metu neter implies this ascension is beyond race, which it may be, but also that at higher levels of spiritual ascension one rises above being involved in the conflicts of man.

This reminds me of christian doctrine, as well as the actual mention in the Metu Neter of the phrase "turn the other cheek."

If the ultimate goal of the Metu Neter is a peaceful state of becoming divine, what practical changes could this system produce in our current position in the hierarchy of races?

Does the ultimate purpose of the metu neter produce any different outcome than doctrines which advocate our spiritual rewards will exist in another life and on another plane, and not the physical one?

If one were to align themselves with the process; performing the exercises and querying the oracles (establishing communication). If one were to begin to create an environment that animates the abstract correspondences (scent, colors, neumonic devices) which inturn allow for the intimate experience of Neter as a *Reality* It will liberate.

I'm not that thorough with the *exercises* myself and have changed dramatically.

hiphopolx
02-04-2007, 10:00 AM
If one were to align themselves with the process; performing the exercises and querying the oracles (establishing communication). If one were to begin to create an environment that animates the abstract correspondences (scent, colors, neumonic devices) which inturn allow for the intimate experience of Neter as a *Reality* It will liberate.

I'm not that thorough with the *exercises* myself and have changed dramatically.

I'd also like to add that the tree of life is also a guide to your spritual elavation. And being that I have exprerienced some of the steps that he described, I am gonna take him as his word that the rest of the steps will happen once you continue to elevate yourself. I have to say 'as his word' because RUNA actually pointed out that his books are gonna be like any other self taught book,
(and other infomational books not just his)
if you just read it and not experience it. (unless you go thru his steps to produce the desired effect) So for me to say I know what he says is true and not experience it would make me a blind follower. I must see past the fact that the steps in 'Tree of Life' just totally make sense to me. Applying this wisdom also can protect you from being duped. We all know of some slick talking ppl out there. The best of them will make their words sound good and make sense to most ppl and so we take what he/she will say as truth. This goes on more than who ever is reading this knows.
(Government, Religion,Money,relationships)

For the record all the words in his books seem to be on point, but if anyone does find some fault in his books please let me know :)

peace

hiphopolx
02-04-2007, 10:20 AM
Does the ultimate purpose of the metu neter produce any different outcome than doctrines which advocate our spiritual rewards will exist in another life and on another plane, and not the physical one?

If the ultimate purpose of which you speak is to achieve peace within yourself(Hotep,Nirvana) then no matter what happen or what was said that ultimate goal is the same.
(From a mathematcal view). But I believe RUNA has said something to this affect as well

peace

Goddess Kalifa
02-04-2007, 11:05 AM
From what I have read thus far, It seems the ultimate goal of metu neter is to unite completely with the internal divine intelligence and to thus return to oneness with the creator.

[QUOTE]Both books, Metu Neter and The Tree of Life are both excellent books for a starting point in raising the divine being within you.
It is great in showing you how to view the world, the effects of the world upon us and how to view what is real and what isn't real

On a few occassions the metu neter implies this ascension is beyond race, which it may be, but also that at higher levels of spiritual ascension one rises above being involved in the conflicts of man.

once upon a time the African Man/Woman knew of only this way of existance unlike other races. It wasn't until other races evolved into existance andAfricans exposure to those other races that they lost this way of existance therefore setting the African race in a downward spiral. What you have here in these books are bits and parts of African Theology.The ways of our Ancient African Ancestors

This reminds me of christian doctrine, as well as the actual mention in the Metu Neter of the phrase "turn the other cheek."

These books are only the Author's inerpetation of divine teachings which is being interpedted and transcribed by a mind that is not divine therefore you are going to get imperpections, ungenuine interpetaions but he has done a wonderful job considering the facts

If the ultimate goal of the Metu Neter is a peaceful state of becoming divine, what practical changes could this system produce in our current position in the hierarchy of races?

There are some races whoms culture or spirit that is not of a peacful nor devine state of being would they ever desire to be so because there nature and culture is what it is. Just because that is so with those races doesnt make it so with the african race. We were sought after because of our divine minds, and captured and our divine minds were replaced with that of the captors. So when ever we here words such as the words in these books and from other great minds it sounds natural and common to us

Does the ultimate purpose of the metu neter produce any different outcome than doctrines which advocate our spiritual rewards will exist in another life and on another plane, and not the physical one?

No, the christian doctrine teaches such but the Metu Netur has been used and lived from our beginning right here on this planet (and others), and by applying these methods you can achieve it right here, right now. These Methods are not new this is African Theoloy and our ancient African ancestors natural way of being)

pdiane
02-24-2007, 02:21 PM
First and foremost,

Destee, I miss this site. I have been beyond busy traveling back and forth to Afraka. I will make my donation again soon and thank you for your steadfastness and sincere love and commitment to our people. YOu are a beautiful sister. Peace and love.

Wow, it so encouraging to see our people delving into the study of the Metu Neter. Finally we are taking back our spiritual system. I am currently taking classes from Dr. Terri Nelson, Right Relationships Right Knowledge, along with her husband Lester here in Boston.

The Tree of Life is a journey in which we should take and learn from in order to establish the ultimate peace and love for ourselves and others. The laws of Ma'at, the wisdom of Tehuti, and the several other spiritual forces that we learn from as we reascend up the Tree of Life are powerful and meaningful to us in our everyday life.

It is time for us to Look toward the East for our true salvation. Part of that salvation is to build our true Karacter by recognizing our Ka RA ter flaws. It starts with us first.

I encourage all people, particularly Black people to devle into this precious, beautiful teachings, that our ancestors left behind for us to grasp. They used astrology, math, science, astronomy, numerology, and spirtuality to gain the ultimate everlasting peaceful way of life, that does not end upon our leaving this earthly place.

We are living in the Age of Aquarius now, the age of change. This means that the dark days are over and everything is coming into the light.

It is time to approach the upper vibration the highest spiritual plane of Amen, Amun, the true and Living God.

It comes to no surprise to me that our people, our Beautiful spiritual Black people developed a spiritual system that was superior, creative, loving, all encompassing, and as usual, other people stole bits and peices of it to elevate themselves as they left others behind. (Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Judism and the like have diretives of AFrakan Spirituality) Let's commit ourselves to learn about the Metu Neter and teach our people what that which will bring them phenominal joy, peace, balance, and love.

Hotep.

Peace and love.

Ra Un Nefer Amen's brillaint book "Metu Neter" is a wonderful starting point to start on your journey in learning about Ancient Afrakan Spirituality.

Ikoro
02-25-2007, 08:02 AM
Hotep.

I have read the 11 Laws of God recently. Before starting on that one I received from the Universe "The Glorious Light Meditation" by Muata Ashby, who has a very different approach than Ra Un Nefer Amen. This transition between the two Elders teachings were a bit tedious to internalize, anyone else had this issue?

But if one has the courage and strength to make up ones own mind, together they will create a stronger constitution in what Creation and this life is about.

I will soon be moving on to "Tree of Life Meditation", looking foward to it. Am reading Ashby's "Wisdom of Maati" and "Serpent Power" also.

Great books with powerful information for the powerful.

Knowledge is power, family.

Smai Tawi.

One.

~Ikoro

hiphopolx
02-25-2007, 03:18 PM
Hotep.

I have read the 11 Laws of God recently. Before starting on that one I received from the Universe "The Glorious Light Meditation" by Muata Ashby, who has a very different approach than Ra Un Nefer Amen. This transition between the two Elders teachings were a bit tedious to internalize, anyone else had this issue?

But if one has the courage and strength to make up ones own mind, together they will create a stronger constitution in what Creation and this life is about.

I will soon be moving on to "Tree of Life Meditation", looking foward to it. Am reading Ashby's "Wisdom of Maati" and "Serpent Power" also.

Great books with powerful information for the powerful.

Knowledge is power, family.

Smai Tawi.

One.

~Ikoro

Peace
You once responded to a reply I made about 1+1. So if you havn't forgotten I'd still like to hear what you meant by that.

:peace:

Destee
02-25-2007, 06:47 PM
First and foremost,

Destee, I miss this site. I have been beyond busy traveling back and forth to Afraka. I will make my donation again soon and thank you for your steadfastness and sincere love and commitment to our people. YOu are a beautiful sister. Peace and love.

Sister PDiane ... Peace and Blessings ... :love:

Thank you for your continued love and support! We miss you too Sister! Such a sweet pleasure to have you back sharing your wisdom, knowledge, and experiences with us! It is such a blessing to be moving back and forth between Afraka! Please put in an extra measure for me Sister! Think on me as you go, so that i may go with you! Please share some pictures! Continue to be blessed with safe travels ... and we will be here when you return ... so long as God and our Ancestors say the same.

Much Love and Peace.

:heart:

Destee

omowalejabali
09-11-2008, 12:47 PM
That’s one way to look at it. Technically speaking though, the goal is to resurrect the indwelling intelligence in order to share in the attributes of God which are Omnipotence, Omnipresence, and Omniscience. Along the way, you will learn to exert complete control of your emotional reaction to any adverse situation you encounter and be able to respond more intelligently.


This is a little tricky to answer but I’ll give it a try.

First of all, the demelaninated ones, probably for biological reasons (my own speculation), can’t go all the way to the top in this system.

Addressing the issue of conflict, in the ideal society, the upper echelon leaders would be people who have undergone a prolonged period of rigorous spiritual training--Afrikan style--rather than lying, crooked politicians. Such people would be able to fashion laws and create a culture that would be able to anticipate (using the faculty of Omniscience) and thus avoid conflicts, or, should such a conflict occur, be able to achieve a just and lasting peace among the disputants. The Maat, Herukhuti & Heru people would be the administrators of this society, and the Herukhuti people, the enforcers of divine law, would be the ones to get their hands dirty if need be. It has been stated in one of the volumes of “Metu Neter” that Herukhuti comes not to start wars, but to end them.

[Note: Herukhuti is the deity that governs the police & military]

In our ideal society, the Maat, Herukhuti and Heru people would also have to undergo a prolonged course of spiritual training. Thus, no spiritually immature people (i.e., slick talking politicians) would be allowed to occupy any position of authority. This is how our ancestors used to roll before the white man gave us democracy, that system of government where 3 wolves & a sheep get together and vote on what's for dinner.
This is far from turn the other cheek. In one of his lectures, the author recently said that if someone is attacking you and you know kung fu, then kung fu ‘em.

If used as directed, it can produce profound changes in every aspect of our lives, both individually and collectively. For example, 99.99% of us are in the Sahu stage (spheres 7, 8, & 9) and hence spiritually immature. Thus, using meditations and rituals, we work on developing a more balanced Het-Heru (7), Sebek (8), and Auset (9) faculties. This makes us more “intelligent” (Sebek sphere 8), more able to use the "e-motion" of joy as the engine of our success (Het-Heru, sphere 7) and instills in us a devotion to resurrect the indwelling divinity Ausar (using Auset, sphere 9, which also governs learning and memory). We also work on Geb (sphere 10) by proper dietary practices, herbs, Yoga, Qi Gong, and other fitness regimes. (In our tradition, good physical health is a prerequisite to optimum spiritual growth).

We also work on other faculties such as Heru (6th sphere). A well developed and balanced Heru enables us make decisions based on input from the divine wisdom faculty (Tehuti-the 2nd sphere) rather that on emotions. If you’ve read the story of Ausar, Auset, and Heru, you’ll notice that no matter how mighty a warrior Heru was, he was not able to defeat his evil uncle Set (which represent the animal part of the spirit–the devil that makes us “do it”) until he received guidance from Tehuti, the wisdom faculty. Heru also enables us to see thru b.s. that euroman throws our way on a daily basis (hence the significance of the Eye of Heru–do you SEE what I’m saying?), as well as governing our leadership and administrative abilities.

Now, can you imagine how much further along we would be as a people if say, 10% of us were to fully develop our Heru faculties? Imagine 1 in 10 black people fully awakened and functioning at a very high level with stellar leadership qualities and the wisdom of God. (Think of how profoundly our collective consciousness was transformed in the 60's & 70's when less than 1% of our leadership had only partially developed Heru faculties)
Yes it does. See my answer to the question preceding this one.

Bringing this up for the obvious.

Jahari Kavi
09-18-2008, 11:48 PM
after reading some of the metu neter, I will say there are a lot of good ideas/knowledge presented, but complete liberation is a process with various components. I think I've mentioned this before, but I've gotten to the point where I don't think a person's religious beliefs matter that much, as long as those beliefs aren't handicapping them mentally, spiritually, financially, etc. I'm down with various schools of thought, such as James Cone and black liberation theology, Nation of Islam, Gods and Earths, Ausar-Auset Society, etc. The key to your personal beliefs as an African, is that your experience should relate to your viewpoint "specifically." As long as your spiritual/religious beliefs do that, then I have no complaints.......

Bootzey
09-19-2008, 09:51 AM
Can the Metu Neter liberate Black People?

Alone? No. That means everyone who has already read it would be liberated. The only person that can save self is self.

soulosophy
09-19-2008, 01:52 PM
Can the Metu Neter liberate Black People?

Alone? No. That means everyone who has already read it would be liberated.

Reading does not liberate. Applying the information they read does assist in liberating oneself (which is not an overnight process).

The only person that can save self is self.

That's right. But what is the self? The metu neter helps one to have a deeper standing of just what that self is by breaking down the self (god consciousness/true higher self) and the non-self (ego/perceived false identity/lower self). In this sense then, the self saves one from the non-self.

Peace…

jamesfrmphilly
09-19-2008, 04:16 PM
Can the Metu Neter liberate Black People?
:SuN020: yes...

MenNefer
09-19-2008, 10:40 PM
Now as I'm building on ...cosmic scriptures spawn..Verbal SELF BORN since Ra sparked the Morn" Dark Sun Riders *Time to Build*

Tehuti via Apuat/Anpu give it to you at the gate per SUS Ra UN Nefer Amen. "The Book" Metu Neter corresponds to an opening or closing of the way.Some read it and get it some don't. *It is a THING* that is presented in a manner unique to the author but similar to the rules that abound millions of self help books or books period. The reality, "Metu Neter" corresponds to the alkhemical matrix of sounds (sphere1- 9) that crystalized into physical phenomena (sphere 10). The Metu Neter "IS" Black People. Can the Ausarian religio/rites of passage assist /facilitate what is already happening (The Urge towards 0)? YES indeed. It would do Africans a great deal good if they started identifying themselves as "The word of God" as well as the Primum mobile:sand:. No thing can liberate Black People.

anAfrican
09-19-2008, 10:57 PM
No thing can liberate Black People.i gotta wonder if Africans called ourselves "black people" before we were driven south of the sahara?

truetothecause
09-20-2008, 04:03 PM
i gotta wonder if Africans called ourselves "black people" before we were driven south of the sahara?

I have a strong and sneaky suspicion that whatever word, sound or symbol they used, referenced the presence of Melanin present in the Pineal Glands of the 'people' (physical bodies) that houses the Spirit.
I began to wonder....how will "knowing" this aid me/us in my/our goal of liberation via unification utilizing the tool of healthy and effective communication...how will it help me/us achieve that?

As I worked to express those thoughts....I happened upon a potential 'answer'....

By Knowing IF they/we/us, in our ancienty, RE~spected the FACT that the shell our Spirit embodies is noted based on the FACT that, "Dark" Color is present (brown/dark brown, black) ...varying shades of particular color(s) (brown/dark brown, black) ...and/or blend that has a certain specific colors (brown/dark brown, black).....THEN....WE have 'ALWAYS' given referrence BASED ON SKIN COLOR as a driving factor for decisions made and whom those decisions impact....and how they are impacted....

Also, I recently heard a Brother break down some real Science Regarding the reference of "black" ...name of Dr. Aseer Allah El (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/truth2power/2008/09/20/Dr-Aseer-Allah-El-)

So...Thanks for Sharing and as always.....


M.E.
:hearts2:

anAfrican
09-20-2008, 04:25 PM
how will "knowing" this aid me/us in my/our goal of liberation via unification utilizing the tool of healthy and effective communication...how will it help me/us achieve that?

So...Thanks for Sharing and as always....

M.E.
:hearts2:how do we get to "unification" if it is us(black americans)/them(Africans)? or is unification to be limited to black america?

i'm thinking that it would help if "we" stop with phrases like "Africans and us" or looking across the atlantic whenever someone says "African".

as well there is the thought that, perhaps, it should be considered that this mess brought upon "us" with this american version of slavery is not the first time that we have gone through this.

further, perhaps we, here in america, might be exhibiting some of this very western arrogance that drives this supreme lunacy by imposing/"exporting" this term rather than it having been something that we have been using for a very much longer time than our "visit" here?

but, then, there is always someone willing to tell me that i think too much ...

yahkhemy
09-20-2008, 04:59 PM
I've read the tree of life book. Must I read Metu Neter Vols I - II - III to fully comprehend the discussion at hand ? and to enact change here on earth (should) the motion be set in Washington D.C. First ?

anAfrican
09-20-2008, 05:27 PM
Welcome to the Family!

and to enact change here on earth (should) the motion be set in Washington D.C. First ?well, now given that that is the current bastion of those that had/have to ask "What is Life?" and such questions, i truly don't think that would work.

truly i figure that to set that particular change in motion is gonna have to begin with the least "industrialized" of us, i.e., those of us that are still much much closer to the Natural Divinity of Mother Earth. or those of us that have fought back through this socalled "civilization" that has been terrorized into humanity.

unless you are only speaking of changing the methodology of desecration rather than actually repairing any of the damage to the ecosphere ...

Clyde Coger
09-20-2008, 05:56 PM
Wheat bread "Taste the Jam"

Now as I'm building on ...cosmic scriptures spawn..Verbal SELF BORN since Ra sparked the Morn" Dark Sun Riders *Time to Build*

Tehuti via Apuat/Anpu give it to you at the gate per SUS Ra UN Nefer Amen. "The Book" Metu Neter corresponds to an opening or closing of the way.Some read it and get it some don't. *It is a THING* that is presented in a manner unique to the author but similar to the rules that abound millions of self help books or books period. The reality, "Metu Neter" corresponds to the alkhemical matrix of sounds (sphere1- 9) that crystalized into physical phenomena (sphere 10). The Metu Neter "IS" Black People. Can the Ausarian religio/rites of passage assist /facilitate what is already happening (The Urge towards 0)? YES indeed. It would do Africans a great deal good if they started identifying themselves as "The word of God" as well as the Primum mobile:sand:. No thing can liberate Black People.




MenNefer,
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Clyde Coger
09-20-2008, 07:19 PM
I have a strong and sneaky suspicion that whatever word, sound or symbol they used, referenced the presence of Melanin present in the Pineal Glands of the 'people' (physical bodies) that houses the Spirit.
I began to wonder....how will "knowing" this aid me/us in my/our goal of liberation via unification utilizing the tool of healthy and effective communication...how will it help me/us achieve that?

As I worked to express those thoughts....I happened upon a potential 'answer'....

By Knowing IF they/we/us, in our ancienty, RE~spected the FACT that the shell our Spirit embodies is noted based on the FACT that, "Dark" Color is present (brown/dark brown, black) ...varying shades of particular color(s) (brown/dark brown, black) ...and/or blend that has a certain specific colors (brown/dark brown, black).....THEN....WE have 'ALWAYS' given referrence BASED ON SKIN COLOR as a driving factor for decisions made and whom those decisions impact....and how they are impacted....

Also, I recently heard a Brother break down some real Science Regarding the reference of "black" ...name of Dr. Aseer Allah El (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/truth2power/2008/09/20/Dr-Aseer-Allah-El-)

So...Thanks for Sharing and as always.....


M.E.
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Abena,

After listening to Dr. Aseer, there is this interjection into the discussion. Aseer indicates our people are under a “form of spell,” we call it a curse, biblically. If fact, Aseer properly claims all world religions have Black Gods, however, his interest is not to remove the white-out, as you say, from Christianity, and that is understandable as he is working on his part/portion of the black stew.


Everything talked about by Aseer, can also be learned and is available right here at Destee.com. I find that to be extremely interesting, and evidences that black people are coming together in thought processes.

When Aseer was asked about the origin of white people by a caller, the Dr. drew this conclusion after giving various historical talking points; “it will be reveal,” that the importance now is to remove the pit bull from the room, first. Again, Edward and others have this same thought process. In other words, Aseer never committed to any particular theory, but leaned toward the Yacob doctrine insisting the importance of removing the danger of the pit bull, before determining how he got into the room.

My particular interest lies in his: it will be reveal comment. Whether know or unknown by the likes of Aseer and others, God, identified by Aseer as the Creator, or the It, has revealed the origin of white people, the most significant missing piece of the puzzle.

Which brings me to Aseer’s position that the importance of knowing their origin comes after we contain the pit bull, and prevent harm from occurring to those in the room, so to speak. All this is understandable when we see each of us as pursuing our own expertise in a vacuum, and still separated from one another, and not all entering the pot, as you and I have talked about cooking the stew. So thank you for that piece, Dr. Aseer, another ingredient to be put in the pot of black stew.....the dog is still in the room, and we still don’t know how he (the dog) got there.

jamesfrmphilly
09-20-2008, 09:39 PM
I've read the tree of life book. Must I read Metu Neter Vols I - II - III to fully comprehend the discussion at hand ? ?

try vol III

jamesfrmphilly
09-20-2008, 09:41 PM
Welcome to the Family!

well, now given that that is the current bastion of those that had/have to ask "What is Life?" and such questions, i truly don't think that would work.

truly i figure that to set that particular change in motion is gonna have to begin with the least "industrialized" of us, i.e., those of us that are still much much closer to the Natural Divinity of Mother Earth. or those of us that have fought back through this socalled "civilization" that has been terrorized into humanity.

unless you are only speaking of changing the methodology of desecration rather than actually repairing any of the damage to the ecosphere ...

are you a student of the metu neter?

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