My first look:

When I start reading books of the caliber of “Book of the Dead” I like to read about it’s origin and how it was created. Basically background information gives a better understanding as to the nature of what you are reading. My basic first impression comes from R.O. Faulkner’s introduction from his “Book of the Dead”. It will be my own personal summation and what I saw in reading his intro.

The “Book of the Dead” can be more understood today as being prayer cards that are mostly published by Servants of Jesus; I get these small cards in the mail all the time. The cards are small excerpts from the Bible, mainly the New Testament that concentrate on prayer or wisdom verses. In today’s times if we made a “Book of the Dead” all that would be required is to collect these prayer cards and randomly place them in a book. This is the same manner in which the Egyptian Book of the Dead was created.

It is a cut and paste from multiple Egyptian sources mainly Coffin Text and Pyramid Text along with excerpts from Egyptian stories of the gods. Thus the Egyptian Book of the Dead is not a complete book or theology that can be summed up into a coalescent knowledge base. The only way to read the Egyptian Book of the Dead is as it was created, one spell at a time.

The text that makes up the Egyptian Book of the Dead starts to appear after about the Fifth Dynasty and is first found in the Tomb of King Wenis, last ruler of the Fifth Dynasty. Before Wenis the people of Kemet had no doubt about going to the Field Of Reeds (Egyptian Heaven) in the after life but as the population grew so did that old evil act known as crime, murder and robbery.

Now the old concept of all people go to Heaven was being challenged and the people had no clear way to distinguish themselves from those that commit evil acts. Spells and Utterances and Coffin text was starting to become the solution for people to believe in a guaranteed acceptance into Heaven. Basically it became text in which the deceased could use in the after life to describe their good deeds and life on earth to the gods for admittance into Heaven.

A bit of information that I found disturbing but expected can be found on page 12, second paragraph of Faulkner’s book. He states that a new development in Kemet theology can be found in the Coffin Text that the Sun God is no longer Supreme. As we all know this would have been the God Atum, which Akhenaten later tried to redevelop as Aten.

Osiris became the king / god under whom the blessed dead hope to spend eternity. In looking at this we can see a repetition in relating to our time today as Jesus / Osiris replacing the Supreme Being.

Now that I have a grasp on the origin, purpose and perception of the Egyptian Book of the Dead I will start sharing my personal thoughts about the spells and utterances, if any.

Spell 30B page 27.

The Judgment of the Dead:
In this spell I began to see the same theology of the Dogon in referring to the perception that humans have two souls and upon death these souls become reversed in stature. Today this is called the conscious and sub-conscious. As we see the deceased as the conscious pleading with their own heart (sub-conscious / Nummo soul) we see the concept of the sub-conscious (Nummo soul) being used to place and determine the judgment as if the sub-conscious is considered more pure and unable to lie in way of the gods.

When I stand back and look at this from a social point of view it begins to look like reasoning for moral behavior within the community that takes it beyond the written law of the magistrate. It gives a greater stature for following the written law in that it promotes a judgment in the after life. It suggest that even though you might escape some laws in the living world, you will not escape the laws and judgment of the Ennead.

In reading the rest of the Spells I began to get an overall view of the Egyptian perspective of the after life. They believed that they actually became the god, or they became a solder in the army of god in the fight against evil, or they lived an after life as a king or queen living in sanctimony bliss doing no work and could come and go between the realm of the living and the realm of the dead as they pleased.

This is about all I gleamed from the Egyptian Book of the Dead because there was no focus on one god or deity and anything about the gods or deities appeared flat because they are only references to larger stories and information. Without pre-knowledge of these stories or larger stories of information, the bits and peaces of the Egyptian book of the Dead have no correlation for the reader.

Time Period:
The reason I bring this up is because if you would notice in this thread http://destee.com/forums/showpost.ph...18&postcount=1
The papery of Ani dates to a period soon after the Hyksos expulsion and during the governmental take over by the Amun Priesthood that placed Queen Hatshepsut on the throne as Pharaoh. It dates to the period of Egyptian History as to when religion became commoditiesed and hustled in the streets of Egypt which explains the nature of the Egyptian Book of the Dead, which also explains why there are some misrepresentations within the spells themselves as pertaining to the gods, which also explains why several of the books were made as to Fill in the Blank. They were basically massed produced to sell to the public. The rich could get theirs customized but the poor had to settle for the pre-produced books available in the local store or temple for a small fee of course.

This is why it becomes extremely important to understand the time period of Egyptian Doctrines before trying to jump into the Spirituality of it. Just as religion is being pedaled today, so did Egypt resort to the same.

Can you imagine the frenzy that must have been created when the Amun Priesthood published that one had to have a Book of the Dead in order to be accepted into the Field of Reeds (Heaven)? Can you imagine the wealth that was made off the people in taking an advantage of their belief system?

Peace & Blessing to you.

My first look:

When I start reading books of the caliber of “Book of the Dead” I like to read about it’s origin and how it was created. Basically background information gives a better understanding as to the nature of what you are reading. My basic first impression comes from R.O. Faulkner’s introduction from his “Book of the Dead”. It will be my own personal summation and what I saw in reading his intro.

The “Book of the Dead” can be more understood today as being prayer cards that are mostly published by Servants of Jesus; I get these small cards in the mail all the time. The cards are small excerpts from the Bible, mainly the New Testament that concentrate on prayer or wisdom verses. In today’s times if we made a “Book of the Dead” all that would be required is to collect these prayer cards and randomly place them in a book. This is the same manner in which the Egyptian Book of the Dead was created.

It is a cut and paste from multiple Egyptian sources mainly Coffin Text and Pyramid Text along with excerpts from Egyptian stories of the gods. Thus the Egyptian Book of the Dead is not a complete book or theology that can be summed up into a coalescent knowledge base. The only way to read the Egyptian Book of the Dead is as it was created, one spell at a time.

The text that makes up the Egyptian Book of the Dead starts to appear after about the Fifth Dynasty and is first found in the Tomb of King Wenis, last ruler of the Fifth Dynasty. Before Wenis the people of Kemet had no doubt about going to the Field Of Reeds (Egyptian Heaven) in the after life but as the population grew so did that old evil act known as crime, murder and robbery.

Now the old concept of all people go to Heaven was being challenged and the people had no clear way to distinguish themselves from those that commit evil acts. Spells and Utterances and Coffin text was starting to become the solution for people to believe in a guaranteed acceptance into Heaven. Basically it became text in which the deceased could use in the after life to describe their good deeds and life on earth to the gods for admittance into Heaven.

A bit of information that I found disturbing but expected can be found on page 12, second paragraph of Faulkner’s book. He states that a new development in Kemet theology can be found in the Coffin Text that the Sun God is no longer Supreme. As we all know this would have been the God Atum, which Akhenaten later tried to redevelop as Aten.

Osiris became the king / god under whom the blessed dead hope to spend eternity. In looking at this we can see a repetition in relating to our time today as Jesus / Osiris replacing the Supreme Being.

Now that I have a grasp on the origin, purpose and perception of the Egyptian Book of the Dead I will start sharing my personal thoughts about the spells and utterances, if any.

Quote:
"He states that a new development in Kemet theology can be found in the Coffin Text that the Sun God is no longer Supreme."

This is why I have stated that what Akhenaten did was attempt to RESTORE what was the ancient form of worship, nothing "revolutionary" in that, but his opposition came basically from a group based in Thebes that had "reformed" the ancient Theology, and their success in doing so is why "Kemetic Theology" today, under the guise of "Afrocentrism" is so far from the ORIGINAL THEOLOGY that what is passed off as "Metu Neter" is actually a "system" based on a multitude of sources (as is the Bible) but perhaps the most credible source are the PYRAMID TEXTS PRE-DATING THE FIFTH DYNASTY.

The problem I am having is when the "reformed" System (based upon the Theban Recension) is passed off as the "original" system rather than the System PRIOR to even the Heliopolitan Recension!

It has been suggested that I "am done" and need to check my sources. What I "am done with" is arguing with an dogmatic set of ideas being propagated as authentic when if fact these propagators themselves ARE DONE FOOLING ME into believing they are "credible".

For example, the B.O.D. are a collection or compilation of "funerary texts". However, from what time period according to most "historians". were the "new chapters" included? What about "ceremonial" texts that were used in the Temples or in rites of initiation PRECEEDING the VIth Dynasty?

Let me ask a question, and check the response:

FACT: The name AMEN does not appear in the Heliopolitan Recension Texts..

Can anyone refute this with EVIDENCE and cite the exact source as PROOF?

Let me ask a question, and check the response:

FACT: The name AMEN does not appear in the Heliopolitan Recension Texts..

Can anyone refute this with EVIDENCE and cite the exact source as PROOF?

Amen as a deity is not mentioned, but it is as a state of exsistence: AMENTET.

PEACE

In reading the rest of the Spells I began to get an overall view of the Egyptian perspective of the after life. They believed that they actually became the god, or they became a solder in the army of god in the fight against evil, or they lived an after life as a king or queen living in sanctimony bliss doing no work and could come and go between the realm of the living and the realm of the dead as they pleased.

This is about all I gleamed from the Egyptian Book of the Dead because there was no focus on one god or deity and anything about the gods or deities appeared flat because they are only references to larger stories and information. Without pre-knowledge of these stories or larger stories of information, the bits and peaces of the Egyptian book of the Dead have no correlation for the reader.


Quote:

"Without pre-knowledge of these stories or larger stories of information, the bits and peaces of the Egyptian book of the Dead have no correlation for the reader."

And how is this "pre-knowledge" attainable when,

"that which was edited by the priests of the college of Anu and which was based upon a series of texts now lost."

Key words: SERIES OF TEXTS.

This means there was no one, no SINGLE TEXT!

FACT: Certainly, there is no mention of a SYSTEM or TEXT predating the Vth Dynasty referred as the "Metu Neter".

This is not to say that a SYSTEM did not exist, and let me be clear on this.

However....FACT: "it was based upon a series of texts now lost".

What I "am done with" (and have placed on "ignore") are those who seek to deny the FACT but can provide nothing more than condescending, personal "diatribes" in refutation without providing WRITTEN, PRIMARY SOURCE MATERIAL as "proof", or stating that "what is in the past is nothing more than illusion".

Peace...

Quote:
"He states that a new development in Kemet theology can be found in the Coffin Text that the Sun God is no longer Supreme."

This is why I have stated that what Akhenaten did was attempt to RESTORE what was the ancient form of worship, nothing "revolutionary" in that, but his opposition came basically from a group based in Thebes that had "reformed" the ancient Theology, and their success in doing so is why "Kemetic Theology" today, under the guise of "Afrocentrism" is so far from the ORIGINAL THEOLOGY that what is passed off as "Metu Neter" is actually a "system" based on a multitude of sources (as is the Bible) but perhaps the most credible source are the PYRAMID TEXTS PRE-DATING THE FIFTH DYNASTY.

The problem I am having is when the "reformed" System (based upon the Theban Recension) is passed off as the "original" system rather than the System PRIOR to even the Heliopolitan Recension!

It has been suggested that I "am done" and need to check my sources. What I "am done with" is arguing with an dogmatic set of ideas being propagated as authentic when if fact these propagators themselves ARE DONE FOOLING ME into believing they are "credible".

For example, the B.O.D. are a collection or compilation of "funerary texts". However, from what time period according to most "historians". were the "new chapters" included? What about "ceremonial" texts that were used in the Temples or in rites of initiation PRECEEDING the VIth Dynasty?

Let me ask a question, and check the response:

FACT: The name AMEN does not appear in the Heliopolitan Recension Texts..

Can anyone refute this with EVIDENCE and cite the exact source as PROOF?

I repeat the question,

"Can anyone refute this with EVIDENCE and cite the exact source as PROOF?

And to be clear, I am speaking of "exact source" PREDATING THE VTH DYNASTY!

Time Period:
The reason I bring this up is because if you would notice in this thread http://destee.com/forums/showpost.ph...18&postcount=1
The papery of Ani dates to a period soon after the Hyksos expulsion and during the governmental take over by the Amun Priesthood that placed Queen Hatshepsut on the throne as Pharaoh. It dates to the period of Egyptian History as to when religion became commoditiesed and hustled in the streets of Egypt which explains the nature of the Egyptian Book of the Dead, which also explains why there are some misrepresentations within the spells themselves as pertaining to the gods, which also explains why several of the books were made as to Fill in the Blank. They were basically massed produced to sell to the public. The rich could get theirs customized but the poor had to settle for the pre-produced books available in the local store or temple for a small fee of course.

This is why it becomes extremely important to understand the time period of Egyptian Doctrines before trying to jump into the Spirituality of it. Just as religion is being pedaled today, so did Egypt resort to the same.

Can you imagine the frenzy that must have been created when the Amun Priesthood published that one had to have a Book of the Dead in order to be accepted into the Field of Reeds (Heaven)? Can you imagine the wealth that was made off the people in taking an advantage of their belief system?

Peace & Blessing to you.

Do you recognize the correlation here to what has been written in books such as Osman's "Moses and Akhenaten"?

Not to present any of this as FACT, there are some who equate Akhenaten with "Moses" and there are those who present him as "Aaron".

"Aaron" representing one priesthood. "Moses" representing another.

This is similar to the "Sons of Horus" vs the "Sons of Set(h)"

Aaronic priesthood or "Levite"

"Theban" or "Memphite"

This is why the Biblical O.T. and different Gospels in the N.T. have differing "geneaologies", because they represent DIFFERENT accounts from RIVAL SOURCES and , RIVAL PRIESTHOODS, and...

What survives as "Kemetic" was compiled AFTER the USURPATION of the Royal Bloodline vis a vis Ai, Horemheb, etc.

What survives as "Hebrew" was compiled DURING the USURPATION of the Royal Bloodline vis a vis Ai, Horemheb, etc.

Peace...

Time Period:
The reason I bring this up is because if you would notice in this thread http://destee.com/forums/showpost.ph...18&postcount=1
The papery of Ani dates to a period soon after the Hyksos expulsion and during the governmental take over by the Amun Priesthood that placed Queen Hatshepsut on the throne as Pharaoh. It dates to the period of Egyptian History as to when religion became commoditiesed and hustled in the streets of Egypt which explains the nature of the Egyptian Book of the Dead, which also explains why there are some misrepresentations within the spells themselves as pertaining to the gods, which also explains why several of the books were made as to Fill in the Blank. They were basically massed produced to sell to the public. The rich could get theirs customized but the poor had to settle for the pre-produced books available in the local store or temple for a small fee of course.

This is why it becomes extremely important to understand the time period of Egyptian Doctrines before trying to jump into the Spirituality of it. Just as religion is being pedaled today, so did Egypt resort to the same.

Can you imagine the frenzy that must have been created when the Amun Priesthood published that one had to have a Book of the Dead in order to be accepted into the Field of Reeds (Heaven)? Can you imagine the wealth that was made off the people in taking an advantage of their belief system?

Peace & Blessing to you.


Quote:

"This is why it becomes extremely important to understand the time period of Egyptian Doctrines before trying to jump into the Spirituality of it."

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In reading the rest of the Spells I began to get an overall view of the Egyptian perspective of the after life. They believed that they actually became the god, or they became a solder in the army of god in the fight against evil, or they lived an after life as a king or queen living in sanctimony bliss doing no work and could come and go between the realm of the living and the realm of the dead as they pleased.

This is about all I gleamed from the Egyptian Book of the Dead because there was no focus on one god or deity and anything about the gods or deities appeared flat because they are only references to larger stories and information. Without pre-knowledge of these stories or larger stories of information, the bits and peaces of the Egyptian book of the Dead have no correlation for the reader.


On my own final note, let me quote what has been written in the information provided concerning Ashby's version of the "Pert em Heru",

"The Pert em Heru is in every way comparable to the Indian Upanishads or the Theban Book of the Dead."

Brother I-khan raised a point concerning the validity of discussing and sharing information outside of the context of "Kemetic".

IF one views Asby's version as more credible that Budge's then what I sugggest examining how

THE PERT EM HERU IS COMPARABLE IN EVERY WAY to the Indian UPANISHADS and THEBAN "Book of the Dead"

Accomplishment of this task of course requires a thorough knowledge of the Pert em Heru, not as a RELIGION but as a "mystical tradition"...which of course means that one mustalso change the tendency to refer to this "mystical tradition" as MYTHOLOGY and that the Indian Vedic literature, particularly the Upanishads, also be treated with the same or COMPARABLE respect.

I have long begun upon this task which is why in the thread on African Cosmo-Genesis I asked regarding the "Indian" account of "ancient aircraft" (Vimanas)

Yes, Omo, people seem to not realize that Egypt existed as being run by Africans for more then 9000 years and out of all that time people that try to return to the religion of Kemet seem to only grab or be attracted to the last 2000 or so years. This is a terrible error because the last 2000 or so years of the Empire of Kemet shows that even the religion of Kemet became corrupted.

It is the corrupted portion of the Kemet religion that the white man publishes the most of. When you look at the information that is available about Kemet it becomes difficult to find religious information and writings from Kemet that predate the 5th Dynasty or even the Hyksos Period.

I tried to find a book on Coffin Text and found they want $200 and more for any books of the Coffin Text.

Are they controlling information?

I think they are trying to hide the fact that Kemet started out as Monotheist that mostly praised and worshiped themselves.

Yes, Omo, people seem to not realize that Egypt existed as being run by Africans for more then 9000 years and out of all that time people that try to return to the religion of Kemet seem to only grab or be attracted to the last 2000 or so years. This is a terrible error because the last 2000 or so years of the Empire of Kemet shows that even the religion of Kemet became corrupted.

It is the corrupted portion of the Kemet religion that the white man publishes the most of. When you look at the information that is available about Kemet it becomes difficult to find religious information and writings from Kemet that predate the 5th Dynasty or even the Hyksos Period.

I tried to find a book on Coffin Text and found they want $200 and more for any books of the Coffin Text.

Are they controlling information?

I think they are trying to hide the fact that Kemet started out as Monotheist that mostly praised and worshiped themselves.

Quote:

"I think they are trying to hide the fact that Kemet started out as Monotheist that mostly praised and worshipped themselves."

I'm not sure if the correct term is "Monotheist" but in another thread I mentioned the Akan belief in the 'Seven Original Families" and this is SIMILAR to the following (According to Budge):

"A group of Seven Gods, who, according to some authorities, formed the Seven Spirits, and, acording to others, the Seven Gods who watched over the Tomb of Osiris.

Again, these "Seven Gods" are "WATCHERS", similar to the Anu.N.Ki or "Ennead".

Another Seven are the Four "Sons of Horus" (i.e. Biblical "Sons of God") along with 3 more,

MAA ATEF
KHERI-BEQ-F
HERU-KHENTI-AREF

There is one thing I have been noticing the past 2 days when comparing the Akan names and the "Egyptian" hieroglyph, and the vowel structure.

This leads me to ask, when did the vowel "O" enter into the WRITTEN "Kemetic language" or into "speech"?

I do not see it in any written form prior to the "Theban Recension".

One more thing.

According to Hieratic script which dates back at least to the 1st Dynasty there are no glyps representing the vowels "e" or "u",

as in HERU...

Therfore, what I have CONCLUDED from all this is that things were "lost in translation" or purposely "mis-translated" when the script for PUBLIC records was changed from Hieratic to Demotic.

For example, there is no "Metu Neter" but mdw-ntr, which I think was suggested by someone earlier, or mdr-ndr, if the "d" is substituted for the "t".

The error I find here is what some folks have attempted to explain according to SPOKEN language while the argument I believe was asked regarding the WRITTEN form, which was "Hieratic", at least as far as written, religious texts are concerned.

And in this respect, changing a "t" and substituting with a "d" could make a major diiferent in the LITERAL MEANING of a word, especially in respect to the symbols or glypsh that are used.

A SNAKE and a HAND have "major" symbolic meanings which are quite different!

For example, there is no "Metu Neter" but mdw-ntr, which I think was suggested by someone earlier, or mdr-ndr, if the "d" is substituted for the "t".

So if the author understood all of this why did he title his book with “Metu” instead of the correct correlation of, “Medw”?

This is so funny....cause my husband's book of the dead is older than the ones you probably have, and in his book it states that the text of the book of the dead reveals that they show signs that they were "edited even before the first dynasty". His is by Wallis Budge also.

So if the author understood all of this why did he title his book with “Metu” instead of the correct correlation of, “Medw”?


Brother Music Producer, with all due respect, what does it matter?

We have plenty of time to explore seriously the CONTENT of the metu neter, but in this thread you started out discussing your thoughts on the Pert Em Heru, so let's try to deal with that.

A few of your observations struck a chord with me and I was hoping they could be explored here, namely the notion that the Pert was a scroll that had to be purchased and was available in different forms for the wealthy vs. the poor.

I don't know if I'm jaded by western egalitarian principles, but automatically that puts me in a mindset of believing the pert to be a text which I'll seek to find truth within, while being sure to discard the rest.

So if the author understood all of this why did he title his book with “Metu” instead of the correct correlation of, “Medw”?

Brother, I can not explain because I dont know for sure. All I can do is speculate by saying perhaps he did not fully study and/or understand HIERATIC script.

This is why I do not take Budge's word as gospel and constantly do cross-referencing with a multitude of sources.

The more I study in this area the more I find that the so-called Egytologists, especially Budge, Massey and Brestead, tended to rely heavily upon the works of Manetho. Perhaps Manetho himself did not understand most of what survived that was written in HIERATIC and may have access only to that written in DEMOTIC, which would have included usage of the vowels "O", "E" and "U" where as Hieratic only utilized the vowels "A" and "I".

This is why I have asked for references predating the Vth dynasty and/or the Pyramid texts, to study fully the etymology.

The thing is if the Akan actually later settled in Egypt then that would possibly explain the later usage of especially the vowel "O" but if the opposite occured it is impossible for Akan names of the "Original Seven Families" to have vowel characters which did not exist in Kemet at the time.

Furthermore,even the names "Akan" and "Twi" both consist of alphabetic characters which can translate exactly from Hieratic.

A few of your observations struck a chord with me and I was hoping they could be explored here, namely the notion that the Pert was a scroll that had to be purchased and was available in different forms for the wealthy vs. the poor.

Yes, the Pert of Ani dates to a time period in Egypt when charlatans that were only interested in power, wealth and control of the government were overrunning the Amun Priesthood while causing the true Amun Priesthood to take a back seat to leader-ship. I suspect most of these original text in the Pert that were not copied from Coffin Text and Pyramid Text was written by non-True priests of Amun, fakers of faith.

In Egypt there was only about 3 ways to gain authority, wealth and control and that was Bloodline / Mary into, Military or Priesthood. Other then that and you were simply a worker, servant or peasant and it was extremely difficult to change your status within the social structure, especially for an un-skilled person.

As the charlatan sect of the Amun Priesthood gained power to the point of contending with the pharaoh, religion in Egypt became commoditiezed. The making and selling of amulets, spells, Hymns and gods became the business of Egypt.

If your child was sick and you could not afford medical care you could go to the local store or temple and purchase a small manufactured image of Sekhmet along with some concoctions and magical words to treat your child with. The person selling the goods did not care about the authenticity of the goods just so as long as the people believed in it enough to give their money or wages for it. Of course with the certification and seal of the Amun Priesthood these packages probably sold like hotcakes.

The same manufacturing of a commodity called Pert Em Heru can also be seen and of course this product would have the seal of the Amun Priesthood, which once again made it sell like hotcakes. All of these products with the seal of the Amun Priesthood were methods of taxation and splitting profit with the Priesthood, religion became a business of petty trinkets, gods, spells, potions and amulets and the authenticity of these products did not matter. This business was doing extremely well even to the point of foreigners coming to Egypt to buy things and as this occurred Egypt also began adapting our own religious gods to fit gods of the foreigners.

As the charlatan sect of the Amun Priesthood became more and more powerful and gained the confidence of the government through Hatshepsut they made their move to rule Egypt from the Throne of the Pharaoh. Hatshepsut took over the government when her husband died an untimely death and while Tuthmosis III was too young to take the Throne. The Amun Priesthood had absolute control of Egypt during 1498-1483BC.

I would like to add that this period was one of the most profitable but corrupt periods for the whole of Egypt.

Yes, the Pert of Ani dates to a time period in Egypt when charlatans that were only interested in power, wealth and control of the government were overrunning the Amun Priesthood while causing the true Amun Priesthood to take a back seat to leader-ship. I suspect most of these original text in the Pert that were not copied from Coffin Text and Pyramid Text was written by non-True priests of Amun, fakers of faith.

In Egypt there was only about 3 ways to gain authority, wealth and control and that was Bloodline / Mary into, Military or Priesthood. Other then that and you were simply a worker, servant or peasant and it was extremely difficult to change your status within the social structure, especially for an un-skilled person.

As the charlatan sect of the Amun Priesthood gained power to the point of contending with the pharaoh, religion in Egypt became commoditiezed. The making and selling of amulets, spells, Hymns and gods became the business of Egypt.

If your child was sick and you could not afford medical care you could go to the local store or temple and purchase a small manufactured image of Sekhmet along with some concoctions and magical words to treat your child with. The person selling the goods did not care about the authenticity of the goods just so as long as the people believed in it enough to give their money or wages for it. Of course with the certification and seal of the Amun Priesthood these packages probably sold like hotcakes.

The same manufacturing of a commodity called Pert Em Heru can also be seen and of course this product would have the seal of the Amun Priesthood, which once again made it sell like hotcakes. All of these products with the seal of the Amun Priesthood were methods of taxation and splitting profit with the Priesthood, religion became a business of petty trinkets, gods, spells, potions and amulets and the authenticity of these products did not matter. This business was doing extremely well even to the point of foreigners coming to Egypt to buy things and as this occurred Egypt also began adapting our own religious gods to fit gods of the foreigners.

As the charlatan sect of the Amun Priesthood became more and more powerful and gained the confidence of the government through Hatshepsut they made their move to rule Egypt from the Throne of the Pharaoh. Hatshepsut took over the government when her husband died an untimely death and while Tuthmosis III was too young to take the Throne. The Amun Priesthood had absolute control of Egypt during 1498-1483BC.

I would like to add that this period was one of the most profitable but corrupt periods for the whole of Egypt.

Reading over this thread again has me re-thinking some things. In the early Dystaic era, the High Priests such as Imhotep and "Pth" were skilled tradesmen, master builders, the true nature and occupation of a Mason. I find it amazing that today when folks look to "Masons" and "Priests" these are people who are not usually associated with being skilled tradesmen, surely not Master Builders.

In analyzing the Amarna Period, regardless of what degrees of Initiation Pharaoh Akhenaten may have or may not have posessed, one thing for certain is he WAS a Master Builder, Engineer and Chief Architect.

Perhaps the greatest tragedy was the manner in which even the Temple of Amenhotep III was decimated and ruined.

It makes me wonder how skilled these 'internet initiates' are in Engineering, Architecture, Masonry, Metalworking, etc.

What are these adepts and High Priests actually BUILDING in the interests of Black people.

What are these adepts and High Priests actually BUILDING in the interests of Black people.

I would prefer to not address them in the Book Club forum. You can see my debates with them in the Spirituality and Religion forum.