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'Da Vinci Code' author Dan Brown takes stand in copyright-infringement lawsuit

By Jill Lawless
ASSOCIATED PRESS

10:32 a.m. March 13, 2006

LONDON – In a rare and undesired public appearance, “The Da Vinci Code” novelist Dan Brown dismissed as “completely fanciful” the claims by two authors that he had stolen their ideas.
He said he did not read their book until the structure of his theological thriller was in place.

On Monday – three years to the week after “The Da Vinci Code” was first published – the multimillionaire writer found himself on the witness stand in courtroom 61 of London's High Court, denying accusations of copyright infringement from authors Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh.

In a witness statement made public by lawyers as he took the stand, Brown said was “shocked at their reaction” to his book. But under questioning by the plaintiffs' lawyer, Brown acknowledged that he could not always recall exact dates of milestones in the creation of his novel. Both books explore theories – dismissed by theologians – that Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute but Jesus' wife, the couple had a child and the bloodline survives.

“I cannot possibly tell you the precise date I learned that Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute,” Brown told attorney Jonathan Rayner James in front of a courtroom packed with journalists, religious skeptics and fans.

The author, a New Hampshire resident who has given few interviews as his novel became an international sensation, was dressed in a dark suit and yellow tie and appeared composed during testimony. Only occasionally did he show traces of impatience with Rayner James' forensic questioning about documents and dates.

“It's as if you've asked me to go back five years or 10 years and asked me not only what I got for Christmas, but what order I opened the presents,” he said at one point.

Baigent and Leigh are suing “Da Vinci Code” publisher Random House for copyright infringement, claiming Brown “appropriated the architecture” of their 1982 nonfiction book “The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail.”

If Baigent and Leigh succeed in securing an injunction to bar the use of their material, they could hold up the scheduled May 19 release of “The Da Vinci Code” film, starring Tom Hanks and Audrey Tautou.

Random House lawyers argue the ideas in dispute are so general they are not protected by copyright. They also say many of the ideas in “The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail” do not feature in Brown's novel, which follows fictional professor Robert Langdon as he investigates the murder of an elderly member of an ancient society that guards dark secrets about the story of Jesus and the quest for the Holy Grail.

In his 69-page witness statement, Brown acknowledged reading Baigent and Leigh's book while he was writing “The Da Vinci Code” – along with 38 other books and more than 300 documents submitted as evidence to the court.

He said Baigent and Leigh's work “was not a crucial or important text in the creation of the framework of 'The Da Vinci Code.'

“I'd never heard of it until I'd seen it mentioned in some of our other research books,” he said.

Brown said he had fully acknowledged his debt to the two authors by having a character in “The Da Vinci Code” refer to the earlier book and its theories.

He even named a character Sir Leigh Teabing – an anagram of Baigent and Leigh.

“Over the past 10 years I have placed in my novels the names of more than two dozen close friends and family,” Brown said. “The names I chose are always those of people I care for or respect.”

Other authors whose works he mentioned had sent letters of thanks, Brown said. But the plaintiffs had made allegations which contain “numerous sweeping statements which seem to me to be completely fanciful.”

The author's statement and testimony provided tantalizing glimpses of his pre-“Da Vinci” life – from pupil at exclusive New England prep school Phillips Exeter Academy to semi-successful Los Angeles songwriter. Brown has also written the thrillers “Deception Point” and “Angels and Demons,” both million sellers thanks to the ongoing fascination with his most recent novel. He has been working on a new book, again featuring protagonist Robert Langdon.

Brown's court appearance also revealed a complex and wide-ranging research process undertaken with wife Blythe Brown, whose interest in “the sacred feminine,” Brown said, led to one of “The Da Vinci Code'“s key themes.

Brown is due to continue his testimony on Tuesday.

The third author of “The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail,” Henry Lincoln, is not involved in the case. A lawyer for the plaintiffs, Paul Sutton, refused to say why he was not participating. Lincoln, who is in his 70s and reportedly in poor health, could not be reached for comment.



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If there is a record of the events of Jesus' trial outside the bible one might could answer that question. However, the bible itself offers conflicting narrations of what went down in the Garden of Gethsemane.

One gospel gives us the well known story of Judas kissing Jesus. In another gospel Jesus confronts Judas and no kiss is given. In yet another gospel Judas hangs in the background while Jesus attempts twice to convince the soldiers he is the man they are looking for. Anyone interested can read these things for themselves or anyone who wants to hold on to ignorant faith won't read it.

To ask what happened in the bible is an impossible question.

If there is a record of the events of Jesus' trial outside the bible one might could answer that question. However, the bible itself offers conflicting narrations of what went down in the Garden of Gethsemane.

One gospel gives us the well known story of Judas kissing Jesus. In another gospel Jesus confronts Judas and no kiss is given. In yet another gospel Judas hangs in the background while Jesus attempts twice to convince the soldiers he is the man they are looking for. Anyone interested can read these things for themselves or anyone who wants to hold on to ignorant faith won't read it.

To ask what happened in the bible is an impossible question.


I do believe you were ask the name of your God He / she , And don't say you don't label your God because He / She have to have a name in order for you to be able to talk to Him / Her True . As you said in one of your post He / she does speak to you true . You were also ask about your teaching of said God , She / He . You know like where did these teaching come from .

Date / Time etc etc . When did these teaching come into existence Date / Time Please . Are their class held on these teaching being you say it the true history of the nubian people , What the name of your teacher , Are their any website where this information can be found . What sect / denomination or whatever you call it , Do you belong to . being they're more then one sect / denomination true .

Does your belief / culture by whatever name you call it , Tell you to insult / disrepect others belief / cultures such as Christianity / Islam Etc etc . Please don't say because you were christian you have that right , Because you can't speak for all christians , Nor can you speak for Islam Etc . etc . When answering the above question please don't come with that white man Religion B.S. Because I already known the nature of beast ok .

I do not insult or disrespect anything. When a religion has been as vicious and coercive as christianity it is an insult to its victims not to speak out against it once the truth is known. Why should I speak out against the slavery of the body but not against the slavery of the mind?

I made the mistake of responding to your thread as if it were a sincere contribution to the family. I will not make that mistake again.

I made the mistake of responding to your thread as if it were a sincere contribution to the family. I will not make that mistake again.

Thank the stars :star: :spinstar:

I do not insult or disrespect anything. When a religion has been as vicious and coercive as christianity it is an insult to its victims not to speak out against it once the truth is known. Why should I speak out against the slavery of the body but not against the slavery of the mind?

I made the mistake of responding to your thread as if it were a sincere contribution to the family. I will not make that mistake again.



Wrong your first mistake was thinking I Would ASSOCIATE myself with any part of your family . And if you wish I can post some of your post where you have disrespected Muslims & Christians here . And expose who the liar here .
Or I can wait until you do it again because it part of your nature to do these thing to push your belief on other here . Take your pick ...

River Writes:I do not insult or disrespect anything
Yet River said: anyone who wants to hold on to ignorant faith......
Humm, Did you just contradict yourself? Saying someone has ignorant faith IS an insult River.

As an attorney, I would like to present this to the court if I may.
Rivers Opening Testimony......

"One gospel gives us the well known story of Judas kissing Jesus. In another gospel Jesus confronts Judas and no kiss is given. In yet another gospel Judas hangs in the background while Jesus attempts twice to convince the soldiers he is the man they are looking for. Anyone interested can read these things for themselves or anyone who wants to hold on to ignorant faith won't read it."

River, let us look at the diversity of the accounts.
Closely connected is a related evidence, one that may seem strange at first, however,when you compare the narratives of the three men who wrote them,yes, you will immediately find differences in the details.
I submit that the divergences amongue the three accounts are, in fact, a powerful evidence FOR, rather than AGAINST, the truthfulness of the records.
How can that be????
Although the three accounts differ from one another, they do not contradict each other.
Matthew 26:47-56
While he was still speaking, Judas, one of the Twelve, arrived. With him was a large crowd armed with swords and clubs, sent from the chief priests and the elders of the people. Now the betrayer had arranged a signal with them: "The one I kiss is the man; arrest him." Going at once to Jesus, Judas said, "Greetings, Rabbi!" and kissed him.

Jesus replied, "Friend, do what you came for."

Then the men stepped forward, seized Jesus and arrested him. With that, one of Jesus' companions reached for his sword, drew it out and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear.

"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?"

At that time Jesus said to the crowd, "Am I leading a rebellion, that you have come out with swords and clubs to capture me? Every day I sat in the temple courts teaching, and you did not arrest me. But this has all taken place that the writings of the prophets might be fulfilled." Then all the disciples deserted him and fled.


Mark 14:43-49

Just as he was speaking, Judas, one of the Twelve, appeared. With him was a crowd armed with swords and clubs, sent from the chief priests, the teachers of the law, and the elders.

Now the betrayer had arranged a signal with them: "The one I kiss is the man; arrest him and lead him away under guard." Going at once to Jesus, Judas said, "Rabbi!" and kissed him. The men seized Jesus and arrested him. Then one of those standing near drew his sword and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear.

"Am I leading a rebellion," said Jesus, "that you have come out with swords and clubs to capture me? Every day I was with you, teaching in the temple courts, and you did not arrest me. But the Scriptures must be fulfilled."


Luke 22:47-53

While he was still speaking a crowd came up, and the man who was called Judas, one of the Twelve, was leading them. He approached Jesus to kiss him, but Jesus asked him, "Judas, are you betraying the Son of Man with a kiss?"

When Jesus' followers saw what was going to happen, they said, "Lord, should we strike with our swords?" And one of them struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his right ear.

But Jesus answered, "No more of this!" And he touched the man's ear and healed him.

Then Jesus said to the chief priests, the officers of the temple guard, and the elders, who had come for him, "Am I leading a rebellion, that you have come with swords and clubs? Every day I was with you in the temple courts, and you did not lay a hand on me. But this is your hour - when darkness reigns."


John 18:1-11

When he had finished praying, Jesus left with his disciples and crossed the Kidron Valley. On the other side there was an olive grove, and he and his disciples went into it.

Now Judas, who betrayed him, knew the place, because Jesus had often met there with his disciples. So Judas came to the grove, guiding a detachment of soldiers and some officials from the chief priests and Pharisees. They were carrying torches, lanterns and weapons.

Jesus, knowing all that was going to happen to him, went out and asked them, "Who is it you want?"

"Jesus of Nazareth," they replied.

"I am he," Jesus said. (And Judas the traitor was standing there with them.) When Jesus said, "I am he," they drew back and fell to the ground.

Again he asked them, "Who is it you want?"

And they said, "Jesus of Nazareth."

"I told you that I am he," Jesus answered. "If you are looking for me, then let these men go." This happened so that the words he had spoken would be fulfilled: "I have not lost one of those you gave me."

Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest's servant, cutting off his right ear. (The servant's name was Malchus.)

Jesus commanded Peter, "Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?"

We can safely say that we now have another witness who came forward, :) 4 men have now given an account of what happened between Jesus and Judas.

Is this a contradiction?No! It is just a differance, and a differances are not necessarily contradictions. For example, suppose you arrived on this forum one evening to find a visiting moderator. :) You asked one person in the thread,"Wheres Moderator X?"They write back that He's on vacation. Then you went to another thread and asked,Wheres Moderator X ?" And another person write back, He went on vacation with his wife".Would you exclaim, "There's a contradiction here! Someones telling a lie!Someones fabricating a myth? Of course not. You would easily realize that the ones in two different threads were not making up false stories independent of one another. Neither, obviously, were they in collusion. They were just realting the same fact from two different but noncontradictory perspectives.

Diversities in the stories are not necessarily contradictions in the history. On the contrary, these minor divergences provide powerful evidence that the accounts are true. In a court of law, when you have two or three witnesses whose stories are all presented exactaly alike, you begin to suspect that they have gotton together ahead of time to rehearse their accounts. You strongly suspect collusion. But if each person tells the story from his or her perspective, each adding differant details and yet not contradicting the testimony of the others, you can more easily assume you are getting a genuine story.

The mere fact that there does appear on the surface to be numerious superficial discrepancies and omissions in the account is CLEAR PROOF that the writters were not engaged in some kind of collusion. It is a well known rule of evidence that the testimonies of several differant witnesses, each reportinng from his own particular vantage point, provide the strongest possible evidence on matters of fact when the testimonies contain superficial contradactions which resolve themselves upon close and careful examination. This is exactally the situation with the various witness to the Jesus and Judas account.

In closing.........

Judas led the crowd to the garden, then approached Jesus by himself, saying, "Greetings, Rabbi!"

As he drew near to kiss Jesus, Jesus asked, "Judas, are you betraying the Son of Man with a kiss?" Judas kissed him anyway, and Jesus responded, "Friend, do what you came for."

Jesus then approached the crowd and asked them, "Who is it you want?" The interaction described in John followed. The men then arrested Jesus.

I rest my case.


As an attorney you need to speak with me about this. Your defence vs. mines. I understand that as an attorney you must be very good in two things; symantics and lying. No way around that. So when you think you are ready, come see me about Jesus, Yesua, Emmanuel or whatever name you choose.

After having reviewed your arguments, it has come to this courts attention that your claim has no merit. This is a hearing based upon facts and not suppositions. If you have any, please present them...if not, we will have to delay this hearing to give the defence time to get her facts together. However, in making this claim...I am willing to take this a step further. I invite you to get anyone from anywhere to aid you in presenting your case based upon the facts you intend to present.

I'm that good and that sure !!

Exhibit A Judas kissed Jesus - Matthew and Mark
Exhibit B Jesus prevented Judas from kissing him - Luke
Exhibit C Judas never came near Jesus but Jesus approached the mob himself - John

These are not mior divergencies or differences in perspective. Either Judas kissed Jesus or he did not.

The human mind can remember a story and even after a few decades get some of the details straight while others will be misremembered. But to claim divine indpiration every detail must be precise and all witnesses must be in perfect agreement about all details. As a myth it wouldn't matter if the writers agree or not because the esoteric message would still be there. But don't try to pawn this off as a divinely inspired historical record.

I was not talking about you when I referred to ignorant faith. Ignorance is when a person doesn't know something. If you can read these passages and not see a contradiction that is not ignorance. That is blindness.

So the Christians / Muslims etc . Are not ...
Main Entry: ig·no·rant
Function: adjective
Pronunciation: 'ig-n(&-)r&nt
1 a : destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society> ; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>
2 : UNAWARE , UNINFORMED
- ig·no·rant·ly adverb
- ig·no·rant·ness noun
synonyms IGNORANT , ILLITERATE , UNLETTERED , UNTUTORED , UNLEARNED mean not having knowledge. IGNORANT may imply a general condition or it may apply to lack of knowledge or awareness of a particular thing <an ignorant fool> <ignorant of nuclear physics>. ILLITERATE applies to either an absolute or a relative inability to read and write <much of the population is still illiterate>. UNLETTERED implies ignorance of the knowledge gained by reading <an allusion meaningless to the unlettered>. UNTUTORED may imply lack of schooling in the arts and ways of civilization <strange monuments built by an untutored people>. UNLEARNED suggests ignorance of advanced subjects <poetry not for academics but for the unlearned masses>.

But the Christian / Muslims are Blind . Hummmmmmm

Pronunciation: 'blīnd
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English; akin to Old High German blint blind, Old English blandan to mix -- more at BLEND
1 a (1) : SIGHTLESS (2) : having less than -uf,1- of normal vision in the more efficient eye when refractive defects are fully corrected by lenses b : of or relating to sightless persons

Let's look up the word
In-sult [ in sult ] --- verb insulted , insulting To speak to or treat in a way that is rude or not polite ; offend
Noun [ in ' sult ] , plural .. insults An action or remark that is mean to insult .


Hummmm

Hotep

Every ones talking about the "'Da Vinci Code'". The question should be asked...who was Da`Vinci? What extra privilage allows him or her to have soo much education to know such a secret "Code"??? Most of all why does this code have to come like every thing else in this white superimist world...only from "Europe" and not Africa??? If it is not from Africa then one thing is for absolute certain..."It has nothing to do with your Black Butt"!! The so-called 'Da Vinci Code' is nothing more than a sinsational attempt of the psychotic, pathologic white racist Religios Elite...to grab the worlds attention to their false illusions of white superimacy...who cares!?? What ever this so called 'Da Vinci Code' has to say we will never know because we will only ever see them putting together fragments that they of course will have to translate and tell you what it says. How convient that only white folk have it and only white folks know what it says?!! The 'Da Vinci Code' is not the word of G-d unles it is a left over fragment of a papiris that was stolen from one of the Kemetic temples during one of the eurpean invations. Remember: If white folks knew the truth...why would they tell you?

Ase`

Hotep

Every ones talking about the "'Da Vinci Code'". The question should be asked...who was Da`Vinci? What extra privilage allows him or her to have soo much education to know such a secret "Code"??? Most of all why does this code have to come like every thing else in this white superimist world...only from "Europe" and not Africa??? If it is not from Africa then one thing is for absolute certain..."It has nothing to do with your Black Butt"!! The so-called 'Da Vinci Code' is nothing more than a sinsational attempt of the psychotic, pathologic white racist Religios Elite...to grab the worlds attention to their false illusions of white superimacy...who cares!?? What ever this so called 'Da Vinci Code' has to say we will never know because we will only ever see them putting together fragments that they of course will have to translate and tell you what it says. How convient that only white folk have it and only white folks know what it says?!! The 'Da Vinci Code' is not the word of G-d unles it is a left over fragment of a papiris that was stolen from one of the Kemetic temples during one of the eurpean invations. Remember: If white folks knew the truth...why would they tell you?

Ase`


My my your up set ... You know some say when you show hate towards another , Your know better then they are . You know what I found funny those who clam to be spiritual teach hate . So that mean their God by whatever name you give him / her is the God of hate .

My my your up set ... You know some say when you show hate towards another , Your know better then they are . You know what I found funny those who clam to be spiritual teach hate . So that mean their God by whatever name you give him / her is the God of hate .






Hotep

On the contrary we are most overjoyed to expose the absolute truth concerning the stolen legacy from the so-called African to the possesion of the "Thief" who stole it...the "indoeuropean"...known by different names but is not a mystery today. One does not have to be the least bit "up-set" to call it like it is even though there will alway be those who will still act like they are innocent but are not by any strech of the imagination. We know our self and will cintinue to expose the "Truth" to those who are "Ready". We know of your historical figures and images that are noting more than illusions of grandure and hype to control the minds with your "False" system of white superimacy. With all of the distruction, distortions, falsifications, dis-ease, polution, suffering, shame and "Slavery"...now!..all of a sudden you have the odosity to use the word "Ignorant" as if you are remotely a expert when it comes to telling the "Truth" about any thing!? No...the time is over for even your most sophisticated "Tricks" and we know that "Exposure" is your biggest "Fear"...and we are more than happy to prove every word here as the absoute truth to the (world) so-called African who has called forth the "Ancestors" who know you well.

Ase`