Meaning of second coming of Jesus

The names like Rama, Krishna, Jesus etc., belong to the external human body, which has taken birth. Such names are generated only after the birth of these human bodies. Therefore, such names are certainly the names of the external human bodies only, which are like the shirts. When the human bodies perish, these names also must perish. But these names exist as eternal names even after the disappearance of these human bodies due to death. The reason is that these names were directed towards the inner Lord even during the time of existence these human bodies. A person is carrying vegetables for selling. You call him by the name “ Vegetables”. The person is not vegetable and the vegetables are not the person also. But the possessor of the vegetables is called by the name of the possessed material. Similarly, when the name “ Krishna or Jesus” was called, this name was directed towards the internal Lord also. Therefore, even if the human body perished, since the Lord is eternal, Krishna or Jesus is also eternal. When Krishna said that He will come again and again, whenever necessary ( Yada Yada hi….Gita), it means the eternal Lord present in the human body will come again and again through different human forms. Similarly, when it is told that Jesus will come again, it means the Lord present in that human body will come again. Here the names Krishna and Jesus indicate the Lord and not the human body.

When some body says that He will come again after 20 years, it does not mean that he will come in the same shirt. Even in the case of the ordinary human beings the name indicates the inner eternal soul also. When people say that Subba Rao died, it means that the name indicates the external human body. People say that Subba Rao’s last journey is today. It means that the name indicates only the external body, which is going to be cremated in the burial ground on that day. In these sayings the name indicates the external human body. But after one-year people say that today is the yearly ceremony of Subba Rao. When you have stated that Subba Rao finished his last journey one year back, how can you bring Subba Rao again after one year? Here the name indicates the inner soul. Therefore, even in the worldly terminology the name indicates both the external body and inner soul according to the context.

Therefore, when you say that Jesus was crucified and killed, the name indicates the external human body. When you say that Jesus will come again on final day of destruction of this world, the name indicates the inner Lord. Thus, the same name indicates the external or internal item according to the context. When you say that Krishna danced in Brundavanam, the name indicates the external human body. When you say that Krishna will come again and again whenever necessary, the name indicates the inner Lord. If you realise this discrimination, you have no quarrel with any religion. When you say that Jesus or Krishna will come again, it means that the inner Lord is going to come in different human bodies again. When you are drawing the picture of Jesus or Krishna, the picture represents the external human body only and not the inner Lord. You can never draw the picture of the inner Lord because He is beyond the realm of imagination. You cannot say about the existence of two unimaginable Lords. When the Lord is unimaginable, He can be only one. If you say that there are two entities, it means that both the entities are imaginable. Therefore, you have to accept that there is only one unimaginable Lord or God. The external human bodies are different and cannot be one. When I say that Krishna is Jesus, it means that the Lord in the body of Krishna and in the body of Jesus is one and the same. It does not mean that the two different bodies are one and the same.

At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

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YUSUFALI: All that is on earth will perish:
PICKTHAL: Everyone that is thereon will pass away;
SHAKIR: Everyone on it must pass away.

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YUSUFALI: But will abide (for ever) the Face of thy Lord,- full of Majesty, Bounty and Honour.
PICKTHAL: There remaineth but the Countenance of thy Lord of Might and Glory.
SHAKIR: And there will endure for ever the person of your Lord, the Lord of glory and honor.

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YUSUFALI: Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
PICKTHAL: Which is it, of the favours of your Lord, that ye deny?
SHAKIR: Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?

Quick definitions (countenance)



noun: the appearance conveyed by a person's face (Example: "A pleasant countenance")
noun: the human face (`kisser' and `smiler' and `mug' are informal terms for `face' and `phiz' is British)

Jesus is Lucifer and he said he is.

Jesus is Lucifer and he said he is.
Where did He say this?

Where did He say this?
Actually GOD told you when HE introduced Jesus as HIS Son. If you read and study the Old Testament you will see it was the Sons of GOD that became the Fallen.

Music Producer please stop polluting thread about Jesus that you have not authored with the same unsubstantiate rhetoric. We all know what you think about Jesus and Christians. The "Jesus is Lucifer" thread has been closed and shall not be revisited vicariously through other threads. I suggest if this is all you have to bring to thread in which Jesus is the topic don't post your comments. You are now officially being disruptive. You know my throught on this, I don't have to explain myself...


Good Day Brother...

Music Producer please stop polluting thread about Jesus that you have not authored with the same unsubstantiate rhetoric. We all know what you think about Jesus and Christians. The "Jesus is Lucifer" thread has been closed and shall not be revisited vicariously through other threads. I suggest if this is all you have to bring to thread in which Jesus is the topic don't post your comments. You are now officially being disruptive. You know my throught on this, I don't have to explain myself...


Good Day Brother...
Why is one allowed to teach, minister, gloat and shove Jesus in our face but yet when one challenges that position they are reprimanded?

I though this forum was not opinionated and controlled.

Why is one allowed to teach, minister, gloat and shove Jesus in our face but yet when one challenges that position they are reprimanded?

I though this forum was not opinionated and controlled.


This forum welcomes many faiths, even your. Everyone is afforded the same opportunity to share their faith or even discuss scriptures and writing of inspiration from an intellectual perspective. However the repeated attempt to tear down someones faith and ridicule it's members will not be tolerated. This is the Religious and Spirituality Forum meaning it is not exclusive to one faith. Part of sharing is having consideration. This is not The Matrix and you are Morphius the bringer of truth. Furthermore I have not seen any thread shoving Jesus or Christianity down anyones throat. Show me a thread in the last six months shoving Jesus or Christianity down someones throat. Let's be clear shoving a faith down someone's throat amounts to giving someone a life or death ultimatum. Such as saying "Accept Christ today or continue on a path to hell." You won't find any. If you do I guarantee that person was reprimanded as well. Have SOME respect for Christians brother. If you can't keep your comment to yourself. That's all...


Good Evening Brother....

This forum welcomes many faiths, even your. Everyone is afforded the same opportunity to share their faith or even discuss scriptures and writing of inspiration from an intellectual perspective. However the repeated attempt to tear down someones faith and ridicule it's members will not be tolerated. This is the Religious and Spirituality Forum meaning it is not exclusive to one faith. Part of sharing is having consideration. This is not The Matrix and you are Morphius the bringer of truth. Furthermore I have not seen any thread shoving Jesus or Christianity down anyones throat. Show me a thread in the last six months shoving Jesus or Christianity down someones throat. Let's be clear shoving a faith down someone's throat amounts to giving someone a life or death ultimatum. Such as saying "Accept Christ today or continue on a path to hell." You won't find any. If you do I guarantee that person was reprimanded as well. Have SOME respect for Christians brother. If you can't keep your comment to yourself. That's all...


Good Evening Brother....I use the term Servants of Jesus which is not a specific sect. Why would you even care as to what I do, say, express or aske as long as I am not cursing someone out or yelling profanities or attacking someone directly as you have done me in times of heated debate?

Meaning of second coming of Jesus

The names like Rama, Krishna, Jesus etc., belong to the external human body, which has taken birth. Such names are generated only after the birth of these human bodies. Therefore, such names are certainly the names of the external human bodies only, which are like the shirts. When the human bodies perish, these names also must perish. But these names exist as eternal names even after the disappearance of these human bodies due to death. The reason is that these names were directed towards the inner Lord even during the time of existence these human bodies. A person is carrying vegetables for selling. You call him by the name “ Vegetables”. The person is not vegetable and the vegetables are not the person also. But the possessor of the vegetables is called by the name of the possessed material. Similarly, when the name “ Krishna or Jesus” was called, this name was directed towards the internal Lord also. Therefore, even if the human body perished, since the Lord is eternal, Krishna or Jesus is also eternal. When Krishna said that He will come again and again, whenever necessary ( Yada Yada hi….Gita), it means the eternal Lord present in the human body will come again and again through different human forms. Similarly, when it is told that Jesus will come again, it means the Lord present in that human body will come again. Here the names Krishna and Jesus indicate the Lord and not the human body.

When some body says that He will come again after 20 years, it does not mean that he will come in the same shirt. Even in the case of the ordinary human beings the name indicates the inner eternal soul also. When people say that Subba Rao died, it means that the name indicates the external human body. People say that Subba Rao’s last journey is today. It means that the name indicates only the external body, which is going to be cremated in the burial ground on that day. In these sayings the name indicates the external human body. But after one-year people say that today is the yearly ceremony of Subba Rao. When you have stated that Subba Rao finished his last journey one year back, how can you bring Subba Rao again after one year? Here the name indicates the inner soul. Therefore, even in the worldly terminology the name indicates both the external body and inner soul according to the context.

Therefore, when you say that Jesus was crucified and killed, the name indicates the external human body. When you say that Jesus will come again on final day of destruction of this world, the name indicates the inner Lord. Thus, the same name indicates the external or internal item according to the context. When you say that Krishna danced in Brundavanam, the name indicates the external human body. When you say that Krishna will come again and again whenever necessary, the name indicates the inner Lord. If you realise this discrimination, you have no quarrel with any religion. When you say that Jesus or Krishna will come again, it means that the inner Lord is going to come in different human bodies again. When you are drawing the picture of Jesus or Krishna, the picture represents the external human body only and not the inner Lord. You can never draw the picture of the inner Lord because He is beyond the realm of imagination. You cannot say about the existence of two unimaginable Lords. When the Lord is unimaginable, He can be only one. If you say that there are two entities, it means that both the entities are imaginable. Therefore, you have to accept that there is only one unimaginable Lord or God. The external human bodies are different and cannot be one. When I say that Krishna is Jesus, it means that the Lord in the body of Krishna and in the body of Jesus is one and the same. It does not mean that the two different bodies are one and the same.

At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

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Good post!

I use the term Servants of Jesus which is not a specific sect. Why would you even care as to what I do, say, express or aske as long as I am not cursing someone out or yelling profanities or attacking someone directly as you have done me in times of heated debate?


Brother you don't have to yell or curse to be a disruption or a distraction. If members of a faith are have a peaceful discussion about THEIR faith or if someone has a question about a particular faith without being disrespectful and someone enters the thread with derrogatory comments about the faith and it's deities that is being disruptive. Brother I have never called you out of your name. I have said you don't have a patent on God. I will say that about everyone including myself. How I feel about your doctrine is irrevelant. You have had plenty of opportunity to share what you believe. Bottom line this forum has been peaceful for a while and we rather enjoy our peace. We communicate with each other respectfully and if we can not then we don't communicate. Brother in your attempt to witness and evangelize to our members you are going a bit over board. I suggest at this point that if you truly desire for our people to understand the truth as you see it you may need to seek assistance from a higher authority through prayer.


Good Morning Brother

Brother you don't have to yell or curse to be a disruption or a distraction. If members of a faith are have a peaceful discussion about THEIR faith or if someone has a question about a particular faith without being disrespectful and someone enters the thread with derrogatory comments about the faith and it's deities that is being disruptive. Brother I have never called you out of your name. I have said you don't have a patent on God. I will say that about everyone including myself. How I feel about your doctrine is irrevelant. You have had plenty of opportunity to share what you believe. Bottom line this forum has been peaceful for a while and we rather enjoy our peace. We communicate with each other respectfully and if we can not then we don't communicate. Brother in your attempt to witness and evangelize to our members you are going a bit over board. I suggest at this point that if you truly desire for our people to understand the truth as you see it you may need to seek assistance from a higher authority through prayer.


Good Morning Brother


Tell him again, Brother. As usual, he never seems inclined to listen. :hearthis:

YUSUFALI: All that is on earth will perish:
PICKTHAL: Everyone that is thereon will pass away;
SHAKIR: Everyone on it must pass away.
LOL, :lol: sorry this is off topic, but how could anyone be fooled into thinking chriz was not solomon7 when he posted the exact same info in the exact same manner? He could have given us a little more credit than that if he wanted us to believe chriz was a new member of the community. :lol:

LOL, sorry this is off topic, but how could anyone be fooled into thinking chriz was not solomon7 when he posted the exact same info in the exact same manner? He could have given us a little more credit than that if he wanted us to believe chriz was a new member of the community.


Right. At least some of the other "new members" are smart enough to change their M.O., and make a small attempt at reinventing themselves when they try to sneak back on here.

PEACE

This forum welcomes many faiths, even your. Everyone is afforded the same opportunity to share their faith or even discuss scriptures and writing of inspiration from an intellectual perspective. However the repeated attempt to tear down someones faith and ridicule it's members will not be tolerated. This is the Religious and Spirituality Forum meaning it is not exclusive to one faith. Part of sharing is having consideration. This is not The Matrix and you are Morphius the bringer of truth. Furthermore I have not seen any thread shoving Jesus or Christianity down anyones throat. Show me a thread in the last six months shoving Jesus or Christianity down someones throat. Let's be clear shoving a faith down someone's throat amounts to giving someone a life or death ultimatum. Such as saying "Accept Christ today or continue on a path to hell." You won't find any. If you do I guarantee that person was reprimanded as well. Have SOME respect for Christians brother. If you can't keep your comment to yourself. That's all...


Good Evening Brother....

You said a mouthful, Brother Rad!










"The more things change, the more they stay the same."

Meaning of second coming of Jesus

The names like Rama, Krishna, Jesus etc., belong to the external human body, which has taken birth. Such names are generated only after the birth of these human bodies. Therefore, such names are certainly the names of the external human bodies only, which are like the shirts. When the human bodies perish, these names also must perish. But these names exist as eternal names even after the disappearance of these human bodies due to death. The reason is that these names were directed towards the inner Lord even during the time of existence these human bodies. A person is carrying vegetables for selling. You call him by the name “ Vegetables”. The person is not vegetable and the vegetables are not the person also. But the possessor of the vegetables is called by the name of the possessed material. Similarly, when the name “ Krishna or Jesus” was called, this name was directed towards the internal Lord also. Therefore, even if the human body perished, since the Lord is eternal, Krishna or Jesus is also eternal. When Krishna said that He will come again and again, whenever necessary ( Yada Yada hi….Gita), it means the eternal Lord present in the human body will come again and again through different human forms. Similarly, when it is told that Jesus will come again, it means the Lord present in that human body will come again. Here the names Krishna and Jesus indicate the Lord and not the human body.

When some body says that He will come again after 20 years, it does not mean that he will come in the same shirt. Even in the case of the ordinary human beings the name indicates the inner eternal soul also. When people say that Subba Rao died, it means that the name indicates the external human body. People say that Subba Rao’s last journey is today. It means that the name indicates only the external body, which is going to be cremated in the burial ground on that day. In these sayings the name indicates the external human body. But after one-year people say that today is the yearly ceremony of Subba Rao. When you have stated that Subba Rao finished his last journey one year back, how can you bring Subba Rao again after one year? Here the name indicates the inner soul. Therefore, even in the worldly terminology the name indicates both the external body and inner soul according to the context.

Therefore, when you say that Jesus was crucified and killed, the name indicates the external human body. When you say that Jesus will come again on final day of destruction of this world, the name indicates the inner Lord. Thus, the same name indicates the external or internal item according to the context. When you say that Krishna danced in Brundavanam, the name indicates the external human body. When you say that Krishna will come again and again whenever necessary, the name indicates the inner Lord. If you realise this discrimination, you have no quarrel with any religion. When you say that Jesus or Krishna will come again, it means that the inner Lord is going to come in different human bodies again. When you are drawing the picture of Jesus or Krishna, the picture represents the external human body only and not the inner Lord. You can never draw the picture of the inner Lord because He is beyond the realm of imagination. You cannot say about the existence of two unimaginable Lords. When the Lord is unimaginable, He can be only one. If you say that there are two entities, it means that both the entities are imaginable. Therefore, you have to accept that there is only one unimaginable Lord or God. The external human bodies are different and cannot be one. When I say that Krishna is Jesus, it means that the Lord in the body of Krishna and in the body of Jesus is one and the same. It does not mean that the two different bodies are one and the same.

At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

Interesting viewpoint.

I can agree with some of this. Good post!

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