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Radical Faith
03-06-2006, 04:09 AM
Is there any legitimate reason for grown men to fist fight? We see this a lot in sports but is it really necessary? Is there a purpose? I say this because I have adopted the philosophy that men don't fight men, men kill. I say this because I have never had a fist fight with a men as an adult and I have not had a fist fight with a black person since the 6th grade. This in no way means that I am soft or a pushover. It means if it's not worth dying for it's not worth fighting for. I feel if I rise my hand to strike a man I intend to kill him. In the same respect if a man raises his hand to me I view it as a threat on my life. Therefore in my defense I must kill my enemy so he doesn't return. Suprizingly this philosophy has kept be out of fights because no one has given me a reason to kill them. How about you family? Is there any reason to kick someones butt?


Peace...

karmashines
03-06-2006, 06:53 AM
There is no reason to get physical as an adult unless someone does it against you first. And unfortunately, there are people out there that aren't mature enough to follow this philosophy, so it may be more necessary than it seems even going by this reasoning.

cursed heart
03-06-2006, 08:37 AM
I know you should turn the other cheek but sometimes a muthfu make you want to beat them down!:hammer:
I haven't had a fight since grammer school!

roarin1
03-06-2006, 08:48 AM
Is there any legitimate reason for grown men to fist fight? We see this a lot in sports but is it really necessary? Is there a purpose? I say this because I have adopted the philosophy that men don't fight men, men kill. I say this because I have never had a fist fight with a men as an adult and I have not had a fist fight with a black person since the 6th grade. This in no way means that I am soft or a pushover. It means if it's not worth dying for it's not worth fighting for. I feel if I rise my hand to strike a man I intend to kill him. In the same respect if a man raises his hand to me I view it as a threat on my life. Therefore in my defense I must kill my enemy so he doesn't return. Suprizingly this philosophy has kept be out of fights because no one has given me a reason to kill them. How about you family? Is there any reason to kick someones butt?


Peace...


NO.

Extremely WISE words.

YOU'VE echoed/mirrored MY philosopy perfectly.

All MEN do live by this code of LIFE, cause that's

what it is....a code of LIFE.

HETEPU

ROARIN......

Coach707
03-06-2006, 08:56 AM
I feel the same way. Men should not have to reslove conflicts with each other by fighting. I myself have not been involved in a fight since grammar school, but I think that it is important to understand the behavior, especially of those that feel they are socially and economically deprived.

I have had the privledge of having close associates and family memebers that were the "violent" type to talk with me about their feelings. Of course we know that everyone isnt equipped to battle intellectually or anaylize situations logically, so there is a certain comfort zone in handling a person's business the most comfortable way that they know how. Of course there's not excuse for a grown man to act like a child, but there are people who dont know any other way to channel that energy.

If you notice, there are people that actually "need" to fight or start a conflict every now and then. These people are emotionally unstable, and they attempt to get others to feel a third of the pain that they are feeling. The sad part about it is that it never makes the situation better, so they constantly look for that "high" to ease what they go through.

In my opinion violence is addictive, and there are many people that use it as their drug of choice.

oldiesman
03-06-2006, 09:17 AM
fistfighting has become a lost art among blackmen[no i'm not gloryfyin it just makin a point]back in the day when two black guys wanted to beef they would roll up their sleeves and duke it out[in most cases it was over with by the next day]you were considered a punk if you pulled out a knife[almost no one pulled a gun back then]but with the advent of[gangster this and gangster that]these youngsters have no concept of[put up your dukes].

Radical Faith
03-06-2006, 12:35 PM
fistfighting has become a lost art among blackmen[no i'm not gloryfyin it just makin a point]back in the day when two black guys wanted to beef they would roll up their sleeves and duke it out[in most cases it was over with by the next day]you were considered a punk if you pulled out a knife[almost no one pulled a gun back then]but with the advent of[gangster this and gangster that]these youngsters have no concept of[put up your dukes].


I hear you Brother. The gentlemens way of resolving disputes over disrespect is a lost art. I also believe drugs had a lot to do with that as well. The competition for drug profits became so fierce that it wasn't enough to beat up a rival gang or drug dealer. One had to competely eliminate the competition. This brings us back to point of saving face in the eyes of their peers. To what length will one go to avoid the embarassing shame of being defeated? Again if it isn't worth dying for it isn't worth fighting for....



Peace....

MississippiRed
03-06-2006, 01:09 PM
Of course there are good reasons to kick a cat's *****.........I have to agree with Oldiesman on this one..........when I was coming up cats would knuckle up and some of them boys had hand skills these days though a lot of these boys just don't have the skills or mindset to get after it that's why the guns and knives come into it cuz them cats don't have the heart or skills to do it with their hands and need that weaponry...........I was raised in an environment however where I was taught to respect grown men and their manhood and as such just couldn't talk any way I wanted to when speaking to a cat that was older than me........now if you did get out of line then you got handled......My Daddy raised me that way......and I firmly believe that if I speak to you respectfully you'll do the same to me if not then we can handle it ..........(and to all those wondering yeah I'll fight another man for what a lot might consider stupid ish)......yelling at me ,calling me out my name, putting his hands on me, yelling at my kids or their mother, among other things I would consider open disrespect.....
That attitude though is a throwback from days long gone today young cats talk to older cats any old way , men address men any old way, talk to other dudes kids any old way folk say some really disrespectful things to people these days handling folk any way they see fit ....not with me you aint' just gon handle me any old way especially if I'm not doing that to you.......and if you do want to show your ***** with me then I'll show my ***** with you .....I'm an Old Schooler folk, Old School Country Mississippi as unpopular as that may be .........



MississippiRed

PoeticManifesta
03-06-2006, 01:28 PM
Absoutely not!
Grown men have no reason to fight unless they are violently attacked by a man of lesser brain... or are defending family which has been attacked by so.
When someones wackiness empedes on anothers in a violent way.. which defense is needed... then a blk man by instinct will fight. But.. there is no sense in fighting.. drop the mofo.. and leave.. use as little engergy as possible.. to defeat your victim.. so the even womnt be made a spectacle of. The last thing we need is the public to observe blk men fighting.

Isaiah
03-06-2006, 04:29 PM
Of course there are good reasons to kick a cat's *****.........I have to agree with Oldiesman on this one..........when I was coming up cats would knuckle up and some of them boys had hand skills these days though a lot of these boys just don't have the skills or mindset to get after it that's why the guns and knives come into it cuz them cats don't have the heart or skills to do it with their hands and need that weaponry...........I was raised in an environment however where I was taught to respect grown men and their manhood and as such just couldn't talk any way I wanted to when speaking to a cat that was older than me........now if you did get out of line then you got handled......My Daddy raised me that way......and I firmly believe that if I speak to you respectfully you'll do the same to me if not then we can handle it ..........(and to all those wondering yeah I'll fight another man for what a lot might consider stupid ish)......yelling at me ,calling me out my name, putting his hands on me, yelling at my kids or their mother, among other things I would consider open disrespect.....
That attitude though is a throwback from days long gone today young cats talk to older cats any old way , men address men any old way, talk to other dudes kids any old way folk say some really disrespectful things to people these days handling folk any way they see fit ....not with me you aint' just gon handle me any old way especially if I'm not doing that to you.......and if you do want to show your ***** with me then I'll show my ***** with you .....I'm an Old Schooler folk, Old School Country Mississippi as unpopular as that may be .........



MississippiRed

Hahaaaa, Mississppi Red, Mah BoyYYYeee! LOL!

Radical, I do see your point, and agree, brother... Whenever I get that angry at a man to strike him, my intentions will be deadly - believe it! I guess when you get long in the tooth like me, the energy expended really has to be worth it... I aint fighting nobody for no black eyes... Been there done that, and it aint no thrill no more either way...

Peace!
Isaiah

ibrahim
03-06-2006, 04:40 PM
Is there any legitimate reason for grown men to fist fight? We see this a lot in sports but is it really necessary? Is there a purpose? I say this because I have adopted the philosophy that men don't fight men, men kill. I say this because I have never had a fist fight with a men as an adult and I have not had a fist fight with a black person since the 6th grade. This in no way means that I am soft or a pushover. It means if it's not worth dying for it's not worth fighting for. I feel if I rise my hand to strike a man I intend to kill him. In the same respect if a man raises his hand to me I view it as a threat on my life. Therefore in my defense I must kill my enemy so he doesn't return. Suprizingly this philosophy has kept be out of fights because no one has given me a reason to kill them. How about you family? Is there any reason to kick someones butt?


Peace...

I remember my daddy had to fist fight someone. He was pushed into doing it.
This man who lives behind our house harrased my kid brother and when my mother complain he harrased her too. Then my daddy reported this to the elders for a solution and it was agreed that the man should stay out of our business, but he continue doing that until he went too far by harrasing my mother with cutlass, my dad just went crazy.
We never saw the man in the neighbourhood again.

I-khan
03-06-2006, 05:53 PM
I say this because I have adopted the philosophy that men don't fight men, men kill. I say this because I have never had a fist fight with a men as an adult and I have not had a fist fight with a black person since the 6th grade. This in no way means that I am soft or a pushover. It means if it's not worth dying for it's not worth fighting for. I feel if I rise my hand to strike a man I intend to kill him. In the same respect if a man raises his hand to me I view it as a threat on my life. Therefore in my defense I must kill my enemy so he doesn't return. Suprizingly this philosophy has kept be out of fights because no one has given me a reason to kill them. How about you family? Is there any reason to kick someones butt?

I have the same philosophy

MississippiRed
03-06-2006, 07:34 PM
Hahaaaa, Mississppi Red, Mah BoyYYYeee! LOL!

Radical, I do see your point, and agree, brother... Whenever I get that angry at a man to strike him, my intentions will be deadly - believe it! I guess when you get long in the tooth like me, the energy expended really has to be worth it... I aint fighting nobody for no black eyes... Been there done that, and it aint no thrill no more either way...

Peace!
Isaiah



Isaiah you know how I go bruh....lol

Maybe the difference is that I love to fight.....I get a kick (excuse the pun) out of fighting......I honestly truly deep down in my soul love to fight and seeing this my Daddy started me in the gym at a young age and I've continued to get in the gym and get after it...that's what has kept me from fighting folks in bars, clubs and other spots where they tend to act up though I have been known to get into it in spots as such........man I even work my kids out and have them in different combat arts....my oldest and middle daughter have taken a break....my oldest from wrestling and American Kenpo and my daughter from Kenpo, but even my 7 year old is training and shows the most promise of the three...Yeah Panafrica if you're reading this promise with the gloves on ......ummm hmmmmm....anyway.........

I dont' go into a fight (outside the gym )thinking I'm going to try to kill this dude but I do go into it trying to inflict as much damage as possible so either you don't want to continue fighting or you can't .....I think everyone that goes into a fight is trying to cripple or kill the person they're fighting with the only thing stopping them being other people around......I mean nobody pulls punches is careful about where they hit trying to not hurt their opponent to badly..........I know I don't if I'm going to fight you I'm trying to shut down the show .........anyway just my perspective........


MississippiRed

I-khan
03-06-2006, 07:51 PM
I would hate to fight this guy,his name is Kimbo and he is a legend in florida.


http://www.mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?FID=1&a=26&TID=765777

MississippiRed
03-06-2006, 08:08 PM
I would hate to fight this guy,his name is Kimbo and he is a legend in florida.


http://www.mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?FID=1&a=26&TID=765777


Yeah I saw that clip before dude is a monster.....for true.......he aint NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO joke bruh......you run up on somebody like that bring ya A game baby ......




MississippiRed

Radical Faith
03-06-2006, 09:22 PM
Isaiah you know how I go bruh....lol

Maybe the difference is that I love to fight.....I get a kick (excuse the pun) out of fighting......I honestly truly deep down in my soul love to fight and seeing this my Daddy started me in the gym at a young age and I've continued to get in the gym and get after it...that's what has kept me from fighting folks in bars, clubs and other spots where they tend to act up though I have been known to get into it in spots as such........man I even work my kids out and have them in different combat arts....my oldest and middle daughter have taken a break....my oldest from wrestling and American Kenpo and my daughter from Kenpo, but even my 7 year old is training and shows the most promise of the three...Yeah Panafrica if you're reading this promise with the gloves on ......ummm hmmmmm....anyway.........

I dont' go into a fight (outside the gym )thinking I'm going to try to kill this dude but I do go into it trying to inflict as much damage as possible so either you don't want to continue fighting or you can't .....I think everyone that goes into a fight is trying to cripple or kill the person they're fighting with the only thing stopping them being other people around......I mean nobody pulls punches is careful about where they hit trying to not hurt their opponent to badly..........I know I don't if I'm going to fight you I'm trying to shut down the show .........anyway just my perspective........


MississippiRed


I think it's about knowing yourself and your opponent. I know myself and I can say I have a terrible temper. In the heat of a fight I will become consumed with rage. It happened before with my cousin. He was playing around with me when I didn't feel like it and kicked me in the groin. As I rolled on the ground writhing in pain and all I could hear was him laughing at me while I was hurting. If I could have turned into the Hulk I would have. When I recuperated I went after him with pure bad intentions in mind. I couldn't quite get my hands on him but if I could have there would not have been too many things I could have done to him. I was a child then and had enough malice in my heart to kill my first cousin with my bare hands. Had my other cousins, aunts and uncles not been around I would have killed him. I saw something in me I never wanted to see again. I realized I can't control my anger in a fight therefore there is no grey area with me it's either kill or be killed. However I do enjoy contact sports. I played football. My father taught me Boxing and Karate when I was younger. We often sparred. I used to get my licks in on the old man which was an accomplishment since he was 3rd degree black belt. He knocked me out a few times so I had no fear of being hit. Growing up my friends couldn't deal with me when it came to sparring or slap boxing. But if it ever got serious I would lose my mind...So like Eddie Murphy said "Play time is over". I don't want to kill anyone or be killed so I stay away from fighting....



Peace....

Radical Faith
03-06-2006, 09:28 PM
I would hate to fight this guy,his name is Kimbo and he is a legend in florida.


http://www.mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?FID=1&a=26&TID=765777



Man what type of Mandingo mess is this? Why don't he become a professional tough guy?


:hammer: :playball: :skillet: :bam: :fight: :kick:

Khasm13
03-07-2006, 12:17 AM
hahahaha....dude with the locs must be on crack out there...try'n to street fight with a pot belly...:lol:

:weights:

one love
khasm

oh and by the way...when defending what is yours...u must be willing to knuckle up...otherwise it serves no purpose


I would hate to fight this guy,his name is Kimbo and he is a legend in florida.


http://www.mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?FID=1&a=26&TID=765777

GmoneyP2010
03-07-2006, 12:48 AM
Black men shouldnt be fighting nor killing each other

Agent_Jack
03-07-2006, 04:50 PM
I gotta roll with Sip and Isaih on this. I'm from Bama, and sometimes the only thing people gonna understand is a closed fist to the temple or bridge of the nose.I don't endorse fighting by any means so don't get it twisted. I appreciate the sisters saying that a grown man should not engage in fistercuffs against one another.It makes me feel good that there are beautiful black women out there who feel that way. Hopefully you will never encounter or even worse put yourself in a situation where your man has to defend the both of you. I pray that never happens for anyone. I agree with Brother Radical as well, because in these days and times, if you raise a fist at someone or vice versa, be prepared for the worst possible outcome. Its a reason why alpha males dominate society.


Peace

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