Isaiah 02-08-2006, 12:31 PM The fact that you, brother Infomoetry would open a thread to chastise me long after the thread and the matter was closed is bad enough, but then to LIE, and say you didn't know the thread was closed is disgraceful...
You say that I should NEVER address you again???? Well, my beloved brother, I didn't address you in the first place, nor did I have any intention to... It was YOU who decided in your "wisdom" to reopen a closed thread to admonish me, to front and bash me publicly... That's alright, I can handle that.... But You brother lost every ounce of respect I ever had for you when you flat out LIED, and said you didn't know the thread was CLOSED already when you had to open it up to post in it again!!!
Now, I go back to the same thread, and you've opened the thing up, and erased your post!!! You are the disgrace, and I would hope that you are called to task by your fellow moderators... You weren't doing no moderating, brother, you were instigating, pure and simple.... I will honor your request as well, to never have a damned thing to say to you if tha is what you wish... Me and LIARS don't hang no way!
Peace!
Isaiah
Destee 02-08-2006, 04:43 PM The fact that you, brother Infomoetry would open a thread to chastise me long after the thread and the matter was closed is bad enough, but then to LIE, and say you didn't know the thread was closed is disgraceful...
You say that I should NEVER address you again???? Well, my beloved brother, I didn't address you in the first place, nor did I have any intention to... It was YOU who decided in your "wisdom" to reopen a closed thread to admonish me, to front and bash me publicly... That's alright, I can handle that.... But You brother lost every ounce of respect I ever had for you when you flat out LIED, and said you didn't know the thread was CLOSED already when you had to open it up to post in it again!!!
Now, I go back to the same thread, and you've opened the thing up, and erased your post!!! You are the disgrace, and I would hope that you are called to task by your fellow moderators... You weren't doing no moderating, brother, you were instigating, pure and simple.... I will honor your request as well, to never have a damned thing to say to you if tha is what you wish... Me and LIARS don't hang no way!
Peace!
Isaiah
Brother Isaiah ... i don't know what thread or post your referencing. I know you won't mind giving me a link to it. I'll check it out and try to see if i can see anything.
For the record though ... Moderators can post to closed threads. When threads are closed, Moderators can still post to them. They have to notice that it's been closed, and then choose to pass it by. It's happened quite a few times over the years, where a Moderator didn't know it had been closed, and went ahead and responded. Generally though, once a thread is closed, it's closed to all of us ... Mods just have to notice that.
Give me the link though Brother, let me take a peek.
Thanks.
:heart:
Destee
info-moetry 02-08-2006, 04:48 PM The fact that you, brother Infomoetry would open a thread to chastise me long after the thread and the matter was closed is bad enough, but then to LIE, and say you didn't know the thread was closed is disgraceful...
You say that I should NEVER address you again???? Well, my beloved brother, I didn't address you in the first place, nor did I have any intention to... It was YOU who decided in your "wisdom" to reopen a closed thread to admonish me, to front and bash me publicly... That's alright, I can handle that.... But You brother lost every ounce of respect I ever had for you when you flat out LIED, and said you didn't know the thread was CLOSED already when you had to open it up to post in it again!!!
Now, I go back to the same thread, and you've opened the thing up, and erased your post!!! You are the disgrace, and I would hope that you are called to task by your fellow moderators... You weren't doing no moderating, brother, you were instigating, pure and simple.... I will honor your request as well, to never have a damned thing to say to you if tha is what you wish... Me and LIARS don't hang no way!
Peace!
Isaiah
pardon me if I may.................
We already discussed this in PM if you recall sir! I explained that I did not realize that it was closed and afterwards was called several names by YOU as you did not believe me and continued your rantings.........
I also explained that I went and deleted MY POST after realizing that it was closed around 10 AM this MORNING.......NOW YOU COME AND ACCUSE ME OF SOME MORE FOOLISHNESS WHEN i ALREADY EXPLAINED THIS TOO YOU!!!! Now you falsely accuse me ONCE AGAIN for what?????
what is it you are trying too achieve here with this childishness............when I went too the thread I clicked on the last page as I always do and saw where you were STILL calling names....I did not see the LOCK on the thread until after receiving your first PM (ONCE AGAIN)!!!!
just in case you still have convienient amnesia here are your violent PM's you sent me Brutha!!
http://destee.com/forums/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=50471
http://destee.com/forums/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=50447
check the times of the PM's and the time ISAIAH started this THREAD and you will see it was already discussed and that this is just his vain attempt to dusuade others which is unruly and wicked!!
How did I bash you, do you even know what I typed in that thread before realizing it was closed or did someone PM you as if it was closed how could you get in too see what I typed............................is there a snitch running around here we should know about??
I did not "BASH" you, I simply reiterated what "JAMESFROM PHILLY" had already asked/warned you of that you broke a rule and apologized then you continued too call names so I reminded you of your previous response too "JAMESFROMPHILLY"........that all!! If someone told you, they should have explained fully and not try too set you up too get into a foolish argument with me!!!
It took you over 2 hours too realize you wanted too make a complaint........smh at this nonsense!
you can't be Sirius brutha!!!
info-moetry 02-08-2006, 05:01 PM here is the link...........to the thread in question!!
http://www.destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39813
Brother Info said:
Brother Isaiah, James has already warned you and you apologized and said you would leave the discussion alone......surely all of this is not called for brother!!
someone has misinformed you Isaiah, so if you would please give us or me his name in private if you like because as you can see I did not chastise or disrespect you in any way!!! JAMES, asked the same of you and you had no problem with it........so I don't suspect NOW THAT YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I SAID and not from a secret source that you would have a problem with what I asked of you!!
peace
info-moetry 02-09-2006, 05:23 PM sorry, I am not that intelligent.....didn't realize you could not open the links too the PM's I was sent by Isaih.........
so here is the text:
The First PM read:
Yesterday, 09:41 AM
Isaiah
$$ PREMIUM MEMBER $$ Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,501
Rep Power: 32
Brother What is Up With the Public Chastisement???
Brother Info, the thread was closed, man, and you opened it back up to PUBLICLY chastise me, brother???? What is THAT all about??? You frontin', or something??? Tryna gain some points with someone??? Brother THAT **** was what was unnecessary! Now you go somewhere and THINK about what YOU DID!
If you REALLY were about dealing with me respectfully you'd have done what I am doing now, and talked to me privately, brother... You didn't do that, which tells me that there is a lack of respect on YOUR part, Black Man...
Peace!
Isaiah
Info-Moetry responded:
First of all Isaiah, I did not realize it was closed....or I would not have responded at all!!
THere is NO lack of respect anywhere and I don't have too go anywhere too think about it. As I said I did not realize it was closed...........
The 2nd PM read
Yesterday, 12:00 PM
Isaiah
$$ PREMIUM MEMBER $$ Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,501
Rep Power: 32
Re: Brother What is Up With the Public Chastisement???
Brother, that is goddam lie!!!! You knew damned well that thread was closed because you had to open the mother up to post! You are lying deceitful bastard!!! Don't freekin address me if you cannot even be truthful and honest... You freekin lying assed bum!
Peace!
Isaiah
:cool:
omowalejabali 02-09-2006, 05:36 PM sorry, I am not that intelligent.....didn't realize you could not open the links too the PM's I was sent by Isaih.........
so here is the text:
The First PM read:
Yesterday, 09:41 AM
Isaiah
$$ PREMIUM MEMBER $$ Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,501
Rep Power: 32
Brother What is Up With the Public Chastisement???
Brother Info, the thread was closed, man, and you opened it back up to PUBLICLY chastise me, brother???? What is THAT all about??? You frontin', or something??? Tryna gain some points with someone??? Brother THAT **** was what was unnecessary! Now you go somewhere and THINK about what YOU DID!
If you REALLY were about dealing with me respectfully you'd have done what I am doing now, and talked to me privately, brother... You didn't do that, which tells me that there is a lack of respect on YOUR part, Black Man...
Peace!
Isaiah
Info-Moetry responded:
First of all Isaiah, I did not realize it was closed....or I would not have responded at all!!
THere is NO lack of respect anywhere and I don't have too go anywhere too think about it. As I said I did not realize it was closed...........
The 2nd PM read
Yesterday, 12:00 PM
Isaiah
$$ PREMIUM MEMBER $$ Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,501
Rep Power: 32
Re: Brother What is Up With the Public Chastisement???
Brother, that is goddam lie!!!! You knew damned well that thread was closed because you had to open the mother up to post! You are lying deceitful bastard!!! Don't freekin address me if you cannot even be truthful and honest... You freekin lying assed bum!
Peace!
Isaiah
:cool:
Whoa!
Why is this being aired out in public?
:argue:
Destee 02-09-2006, 06:25 PM Whoa!
Why is this being aired out in public?
:argue:
Brother Omowale ... this forum is specifically for airing one's complaints.
I encourage everyone to do exactly as Brother Isaiah has done.
Present your complaint, evidence, name names, etc., giving the accused an opportunity to respond.
This allows for the entire Family to review the evidence and determine who's at fault, if anyone.
This is beautiful. I love it. Everything out in the open.
:heart:
Destee
info-moetry 02-09-2006, 06:53 PM Whoa!
Why is this being aired out in public?
:argue:
(Info scratches head).........:thinking:
omowalejabali 02-09-2006, 08:48 PM Brother Omowale ... this forum is specifically for airing one's complaints.
I encourage everyone to do exactly as Brother Isaiah has done.
Present your complaint, evidence, name names, etc., giving the accused an opportunity to respond.
This allows for the entire Family to review the evidence and determine who's at fault, if anyone.
This is beautiful. I love it. Everything out in the open.
:heart:
Destee
I'm not talking about the thread itself. I'm talking about folks posting PM's which are private..
But I guess this is how folks show how they are about loving, encouraging, embracing, etc...
Ok...
:yesno:
Destee 02-09-2006, 08:54 PM I'm not talking about the thread itself. I'm talking about folks posting PM's which are private..
But I guess this is how folks show how they are about loving, encouraging, embracing, etc...
Ok...
:yesno:
Brother Omowale ... yes, i think it is a form of loving, encouraging, embracing, etc.
Rather than holding on to some negative thoughts, based on assumptions and misunderstandings ... the whole truth, as we know it ... can be presented for review.
This allows everyone to know what's going on.
I commend Brother Isaiah for presenting his concern, and i commend Brother Info for responding.
This is constructive interaction, resolving issues in the best of manners.
While one doesn't expect to see their private messages posted for all to see, it just goes to show, if you're gonna accuse someone of something ... be prepared to review whatever evidence is presented in their defense.
Yeah, i think that's love ... getting to the bottom of a situation, and being able to move beyond it.
Yep ... looks like love to me ! :love:
:heart:
Destee
Kemetstry 02-10-2006, 08:06 AM .o0( Ok, now I am beginning to see why it was necessary to start a certain thread about male egos )
*smh*
Yall, it aint dat serious!!!!!!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
info-moetry 02-10-2006, 09:08 AM Brother Omowale ... yes, i think it is a form of loving, encouraging, embracing, etc.
Rather than holding on to some negative thoughts, based on assumptions and misunderstandings ... the whole truth, as we know it ... can be presented for review.
This allows everyone to know what's going on.
I commend Brother Isaiah for presenting his concern, and i commend Brother Info for responding.
This is constructive interaction, resolving issues in the best of manners.
While one doesn't expect to see their private messages posted for all to see, it just goes to show, if you're gonna accuse someone of something ... be prepared to review whatever evidence is presented in their defense.
Yeah, i think that's love ... getting to the bottom of a situation, and being able to move beyond it.
Yep ... looks like love to me ! :love:
:heart:
Destee
if you're gonna accuse someone of something ... be prepared to review whatever evidence is presented in their defense.-EXACTLY, as I would and have never revealed a PM that was sent too me..But if I am being accused of something I did not do, or a complaint is forged against me AFTER already discussing the issue then I think the PM's are my proof that it was discussed already as the party in the first part was trying too deny too make me look bad.....
I wonder why everyone, but the party of the first part is adding their 2 cents!!
Isaiah 02-10-2006, 02:49 PM Brother Omowale ... yes, i think it is a form of loving, encouraging, embracing, etc.
Rather than holding on to some negative thoughts, based on assumptions and misunderstandings ... the whole truth, as we know it ... can be presented for review.
This allows everyone to know what's going on.
I commend Brother Isaiah for presenting his concern, and i commend Brother Info for responding.
This is constructive interaction, resolving issues in the best of manners.
While one doesn't expect to see their private messages posted for all to see, it just goes to show, if you're gonna accuse someone of something ... be prepared to review whatever evidence is presented in their defense.
Yeah, i think that's love ... getting to the bottom of a situation, and being able to move beyond it.
Yep ... looks like love to me ! :love:
:heart:
Destee
Destee, here's the problem....
I CANNOT present the "evidence" because it has been removed by Info-moetry... So do we have all of the evidence, out in the open, as you say???
Fact is, the thread was closed... The matter was closed... Infomoetry OPENED the matter up again, and for no good damned reason...
You damned right I spanked his ***, but I did it privately... I got his private messages to me, and I didn't present them here for all to see... If the brother had apologized like a man, I would not have presented this complaint... Instead, he chose to do what he's continuing to do, which is justify his unjustifiable actions - period... If this is all cool and wonderful, sister, fine...I will move on, but none of you can ever again present yourselves as paragons of virtue to me, or anyone else...
Peace!
Isaiah
Destee 02-10-2006, 03:19 PM Destee, here's the problem....
I CANNOT present the "evidence" because it has been removed by Info-moetry... So do we have all of the evidence, out in the open, as you say???
Brother Isaiah ... i have restored Brother Info's post in that thread ... you can find it here (http://www.destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=396747&postcount=123). It says the following:
Brother Isaiah, James has already warned you and you apologized and said you would leave the discussion alone......surely all of this is not called for brother!!
Fact is, the thread was closed... The matter was closed... Infomoetry OPENED the matter up again, and for no good damned reason...
I've told you that this is not true. Brother Info doesn't have to "open" a closed thread. It automatically lets him respond unhindered, even though others can't do this.
You damned right I spanked his ***, but I did it privately... I got his private messages to me, and I didn't present them here for all to see... If the brother had apologized like a man, I would not have presented this complaint... Instead, he chose to do what he's continuing to do, which is justify his unjustifiable actions - period... If this is all cool and wonderful, sister, fine...I will move on, but none of you can ever again present yourselves as paragons of virtue to me, or anyone else...
I don't believe Brother Info's actions were "unjustifiable." You admitted yourself, that you were breaking the rules. Brother Info is a Moderator, it is his job to encourage all the Members to move on, let stuff go, maintain the peace. That's all he was trying to do. He posted in a closed thread, okay, that was a mistake ... he didn't mean to ... he said that to you in PM ... and he deleted the post.
What more do you want? An apology, after you spoke to him like you did in private? Please. Now if you have some private messages, more evidence for us to consider, please share it now or rest your case.
In regard to paragons of virtue, who's trying to present themselves as that?
If you'll simply continue considering me a Sister, treating me accordingly, i'll be happy.
:heart:
Destee
info-moetry 02-10-2006, 04:29 PM This is how I responded to brother Isaiah 2nd hostile PM....
I suggest you sit in a corner and regain your composer brother........all I did was click on the thread too read it like I would any other thread, I did not have too reopen anything which is why I did not realize it was CLOSED.........
If you took a minute too clean your hostile mouth out , you could have seen that since you told me it was closed I DELETED my response.....
who are you, or who do you think you are that I would have too lie too you???
Quote:
You are lying deceitful bastard!!!
brother Isaiah, never address ME again period!!
you apparantly have some issues you need too work on as this is the same foolishness you were addressing brother Samurai with!!
Quote:Isaiah
You freekin lying assed bum
INFO:
! - spoken like a TRUE brother....................
You see this is why ISAIAH could not present my PM response too him as evidence because it would show more of his hostile attitude........!! He has no case and never had, which is why he has only responded ONCE in THREE days....people who have nothing too do with this matter have responded more than he has!
You damned right I spanked his ***, but I did it privatelysmh, how do you spank someone over the Internet? Don't let the Matrix fool you brother..The rabbit hole is Deep Alice!!
Destee 02-11-2006, 11:40 AM Hello Family ... Brother Isaiah ... Brother Info,
In an effort to put this behind us, and in Brother Isaiah's defense, i do see that we, the Management Team, could have handled this better. We are learning how to manage a community of thousands. None of us have ever been here before, where we are right now. We're learning, so please bear with us.
Brother James had already spoke to Brother Isaiah in that thread, in an attempt to moderate him. It was not absolutely necessary for Brother Info to join in that effort.
Again, we're learning and we need your help.
If you have a complaint against us, please be specific as possible.
We are certainly willing to incorporate any changes that will make this community better than it already is. Moderators will try to refrain from becoming involved in situations that another Moderator is already dealing with.
How about that Brother Isaiah?
:heart:
Destee
Isaiah 02-16-2006, 04:28 PM Hello Family ... Brother Isaiah ... Brother Info,
In an effort to put this behind us, and in Brother Isaiah's defense, i do see that we, the Management Team, could have handled this better. We are learning how to manage a community of thousands. None of us have ever been here before, where we are right now. We're learning, so please bear with us.
Brother James had already spoke to Brother Isaiah in that thread, in an attempt to moderate him. It was not absolutely necessary for Brother Info to join in that effort.
Again, we're learning and we need your help.
If you have a complaint against us, please be specific as possible.
We are certainly willing to incorporate any changes that will make this community better than it already is. Moderators will try to refrain from becoming involved in situations that another Moderator is already dealing with.
How about that Brother Isaiah?
:heart:
Destee
Destee, I am fine with whatever is the solution... If there was a problem I had it was trying to understand why a closed can of worms was re-opened... If I had been given an adequate explanation, we coulda long ago moved on... Whatever you feel in is best sister, I support it, and you know that...
Peace!
Isaiah
Destee 02-16-2006, 07:14 PM If I had been given an adequate explanation, we coulda long ago moved on
Brother Isaiah ... at this point, do you feel you've received an adequate explanation, regarding "why a closed can of worms was re-opened (http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=396925&postcount=2)"? If not, i'll try to explain it better, because i want you satisfied.
:heart:
Destee
Kemetstry 02-28-2006, 08:06 AM Brother Isaiah ... at this point, do you feel you've received an adequate explanation, regarding "why a closed can of worms was re-opened (http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=396925&postcount=2)"? If not, i'll try to explain it better, because i want you satisfied.
:heart:
Destee
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