Whites overcounted in prison - Racefile - Brief Article - Statistical Data Included (http://www.looksmartreggae.com/p/articles/mi_m0KAY/is_1_5/ai_83457939)

Nearly all the growth in the nation's prison population over the past 12 years comes from black and Latino communities, according to a recent study from the National Center on Institutions and Alternatives (NCIA). The study is the first to simultaneously separate prisoners along the lines of race and ethnicity.

The study shows that between 1985 and 1997, when the prison population almost tripled, 70 percent of new inmates were African American, Latino, or other nonwhite minorities. This fact had gone unnoticed because previous official prison population statistics categorized Latinos as white prisoners.

The report finds that whites in prison are considerably overcounted in many states. In 1997, New Mexico reported its prison population as 83 percent white, when the actual percentage was 29 percent. In the same year, Arizona reported that 80 percent of its inmates were white when the figure was actually only 30 percent. In New York, whose prison population doubled between 1985 and 1997--with people of color accounting for over 90 percent of the growth--only 18 percent, not the reported 43 percent, of its inmates were white.

"Counting Hispanic/Latinos as whites hides the magnitude of incarceration of people of color," said Barry Holman, director of public policy at NCIA. "What has been rather antiseptically referred to as a 'racial disparity' is really a gaping divide between whites and nonwhites that far outstrips minority levels in the population or in committing crime.

The study also showed that in three-fourths of the states and the federal system, more than half the prison expansion in that time period came from communities of color, and in no state does the increase in prison reflect the racial and ethnic composition of the overall population. In seven jurisdictions with at least a two-thirds white statewide population, nonwhites accounted for more than 80 percent of the prison growth.

Samantha Chanse, "RaceFile." Samantha is a part-time researcher at the Applied Research Center. She has worked at Californians For Justice during the campaigns to defeat Propositions 209, 227, and 226.

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Destee

I can't understand why on earth Whites will overrepresents themselves in confinement. Perhaps this a ploy to take our minds off the seemingly staggering rate in which Blacks are being incarcerated. Good way to catch us slippin', IMO:thinking:

sister Destee...thanks for this information...staggering!

Whites overcounted in prison - Racefile - Brief Article - Statistical Data Included (http://www.looksmartreggae.com/p/articles/mi_m0KAY/is_1_5/ai_83457939)

Nearly all the growth in the nation's prison population over the past 12 years comes from black and Latino communities, according to a recent study from the National Center on Institutions and Alternatives (NCIA). The study is the first to simultaneously separate prisoners along the lines of race and ethnicity.

The study shows that between 1985 and 1997, when the prison population almost tripled, 70 percent of new inmates were African American, Latino, or other nonwhite minorities. This fact had gone unnoticed because previous official prison population statistics categorized Latinos as white prisoners.

The report finds that whites in prison are considerably overcounted in many states. In 1997, New Mexico reported its prison population as 83 percent white, when the actual percentage was 29 percent. In the same year, Arizona reported that 80 percent of its inmates were white when the figure was actually only 30 percent. In New York, whose prison population doubled between 1985 and 1997--with people of color accounting for over 90 percent of the growth--only 18 percent, not the reported 43 percent, of its inmates were white.

"Counting Hispanic/Latinos as whites hides the magnitude of incarceration of people of color," said Barry Holman, director of public policy at NCIA. "What has been rather antiseptically referred to as a 'racial disparity' is really a gaping divide between whites and nonwhites that far outstrips minority levels in the population or in committing crime.

The study also showed that in three-fourths of the states and the federal system, more than half the prison expansion in that time period came from communities of color, and in no state does the increase in prison reflect the racial and ethnic composition of the overall population. In seven jurisdictions with at least a two-thirds white statewide population, nonwhites accounted for more than 80 percent of the prison growth.

Samantha Chanse, "RaceFile." Samantha is a part-time researcher at the Applied Research Center. She has worked at Californians For Justice during the campaigns to defeat Propositions 209, 227, and 226.

http://www.looksmartreggae.com/p/articles/mi_m0KAY/is_1_5/ai_83457939

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Destee

Arent the spanish europeans and therefore white?

Kemestry: "Arent the spanish europeans and therefore white?"

No, that represents the HIS-panic population: Mexicans, Puerto-Ricans, south/central americans, and carribeans. Yes Spanish are white/anglo, yet some Mexicans and visibly white Latinos are counted as white on the census.

The only social programs for Black men and men of color is Prison. we are the primary beneficiaries of this prison social program then its Sports. Where are the:

Health programs
Educational programs
Employment programs

Kemestry: "Arent the spanish europeans and therefore white?"

No, that represents the HIS-panic population: Mexicans, Puerto-Ricans, south/central americans, and carribeans. Yes Spanish are white/anglo, yet some Mexicans and visibly white Latinos are counted as white on the census.

.o0( They look kinda white to me )

Yeah they pretty much do look white, because Most of them are half Spanish, some more, some less. Genetically speaking, w+nw=nw. To be white means to have miniscule to no pigmentation throughout the body-hair, eyes, skin. In high school, they attest to this with the Skinners Rats table of genetics/heredity(red, white, and pink rat). When you have a glass of water, and drop dye in it even as light as yellow or orange, the water is considered colored to an extent, no longer clear. Many minorities may appear white, but somewhere in their DNA/genetic coding lies the ability to produce a substantial amount of Melanin/color. If they want to be white, go for it, good luck not getting "figured out". :hi:

Yeah they pretty much do look white, because Most of them are half Spanish, some more, some less. Genetically speaking, w+nw=nw. To be white means to have miniscule to no pigmentation throughout the body-hair, eyes, skin. In high school, they attest to this with the Skinners Rats table of genetics/heredity(red, white, and pink rat). When you have a glass of water, and drop dye in it even as light as yellow or orange, the water is considered colored to an extent, no longer clear. Many minorities may appear white, but somewhere in their DNA/genetic coding lies the ability to produce a substantial amount of Melanin/color. If they want to be white, go for it, good luck not getting "figured out". :hi:

Hispanics/South Americans in general are not white. In most cases, they aren't even half white. The overwhelming majority of Hispanics/South Americans are a mix of Spanish, Native American, and African (the percentage of this mixture might vary by family, but that basic mixture is present in almost all of them). There are probably more Hispanics of pure African origin, than those with pure European origin. As I stated before, and one who encounters someone from Spain would definately see the difference between them and Hispanics.

Hispanics/South Americans in general are not white. In most cases, they aren't even half white. The overwhelming majority of Hispanics/South Americans are a mix of Spanish, Native American, and African (the percentage of this mixture might vary by family, but that basic mixture is present in almost all of them). There are probably more Hispanics of pure African origin, than those with pure European origin. As I stated before, and one who encounters someone from Spain would definately see the difference between them and Hispanics.

I don't know Pan. If you look at Antonio Bandarez (sp) or Penelope Cruz who are both from Spain and then at Ricky Martin who's Puerto Rico, at least to me they don't look any different.

I was in Mexico a few years ago and saw quite a few white Mexicans.

If they look white and consider themselves white, to me they're white. Many white people in the US are a mixture of European and Indian also, but they still look white after so many white ancestors.

I don't know Pan. If you look at Antonio Bandarez (sp) or Penelope Cruz who are both from Spain and then at Ricky Martin who's Puerto Rico, at least to me they don't look any different.

I was in Mexico a few years ago and saw quite a few white Mexicans.

If they look white and consider themselves white, to me they're white. Many white people in the US are a mixture of European and Indian also, but they still look white after so many white ancestors.

You think the average Puerto Rican looks like Ricky Martin? I can assure you that they don't. Whites are overrepresented in South American media, it does not represent the majority of the population. I never there are no white Hispanics, I stated the majority aren't. You don't have to take my word for that, look at statistics...also leave the hotel resort when you visit another country.

You think the average Puerto Rican looks like Ricky Martin? I can assure you that they don't. Whites are overrepresented in South American media, it does not represent the majority of the population. I never there are no white Hispanics, I stated the majority aren't. You don't have to take my word for that, look at statistics...also leave the hotel resort when you visit another country.

Pan said:"As I stated before, and one who encounters someone from Spain would definately see the difference between them and Hispanics."

I made that reference because of the above statement. Ya, I do know there are many more average Puerto Ricans that look like him, I don't happen to think he's a fluke. There are many countries in South America that have a large European population. So, it's wrong to say that hispanics, in general, aren't white. That's like saying Americans, in general, aren't black since we make up a small percentage of the population here.

Statistics say that 1/2 of the hispanics in the US are white on the census. So, I don't look at statistics.

Also, you might not believe this, but your not the only one who knows people in other countries and tours around when visiting.

Arent the spanish europeans and therefore white?

Many Latinos are not considered "white" except for those who choose to be identified as such.

There are many Black "spanish speaking" people from numerous central and south american countries. Many "Latinos" identify with native american heritage. Most "Chicanos" vehemently deny being classified as white and advocate "Brown Power".

I made that reference because of the above statement. Ya, I do know there are many more average Puerto Ricans that look like him, I don't happen to think he's a fluke. There are many countries in South America that have a large European population. So, it's wrong to say that hispanics, in general, aren't white. That's like saying Americans, in general, aren't black since we make up a small percentage of the population here.


It is not incorrect to say Hispanics in general aren't white. It would be incorrect to say that no Hispanics are white; however, that isn't what I stated. If the majority of Hispanics aren't white (which they aren't), then like I said Hispanics in general aren't white. The only South American countries with a significant European population are Argentina and Paraguay. The other South American and Central American countries are composed mostly of individuals with mixed heritage (Spanish, Indian, and in many cases African). This I don't even have to argue with you, the CIA factbook will support what I say.

Well, you can look at it two ways. You can say that minorities are incarcerated even more than we thought, or you can say white people commit even fewer crimes than do minorities.
Pick one.