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spicybrown 10-26-2005, 01:02 AM I was fishing through some very old threads on this forum. I ran across one that mentioned Tiger Woods as being only 1/8 Black. His father is reportedly 1/4 Black:rolleyes: What percentage of "other" blood does one need to be considered mixed? I always thought you need one non-Black grandparent. I don't believe it. I am only 1/4 Amerindian, and at least it shows some. People need to be who they are, as though a lil other blood will loosen the noose from their neck. I don't care if someone has 1 Black parent, and the other is Persian, French, Amerindian, German, Dutch, Mexican, Arab.......you're still 50% Black. People act like mixtures like this will make them only 10% Black. Someone please enlighten me on this genetic selectivity. Hate to bring up racial baggage:number1:
PoeticManifesta 10-26-2005, 01:20 AM LOL.. TRUE.. CAUSE ALL RACES GOT SOME BLACK IN EM.. EXCEPT FOR TRUE ARYANS.. THEY BLK MAN CRYPTONITE. i MEMBA READIN A STORY ABOUT A LADY WHO GOT A COPY OF HER BIRTH CERTIFICATED AT THE AGE OF 80 AND HAD HER LISTED AS COLORED.. CAUSE HER GREAT GREAT GRANDMA WAS MIXED.. SHE WAS DARN NEAR SUICIDAL.. LOL.. NAH IM JOKIN.. BUT SHE WAS FURIOUS.. AND PETITIONED TO HAVE IT CHANGED.. BUT HEY AT LEAST SHE IDENTIFIED WITH WHAT IT MEANT TO BE CONSIDERED BLK THIS DAY N AGE.. .AND SHE WASNT HAVIN IT!
I was fishing through some very old threads on this forum. I ran across one that mentioned Tiger Woods as being only 1/8 Black. His father is reportedly 1/4 Black:rolleyes: What percentage of "other" blood does one need to be considered mixed? I always thought you need one non-Black grandparent. I don't believe it. I am only 1/4 Amerindian, and at least it shows some. People need to be who they are, as though a lil other blood will loosen the noose from their neck. I don't care if someone has 1 Black parent, and the other is Persian, French, Amerindian, German, Dutch, Mexican, Arab.......you're still 50% Black. People act like mixtures like this will make them only 10% Black. Someone please enlighten me on this genetic selectivity. Hate to bring up racial baggage:number1:
panafrica 10-26-2005, 03:39 AM The desire to "cleanse" themselves of black blood is strong in some people. It is known as the "pass" mentality!
HODEE 10-26-2005, 04:16 AM So true Pan
" The desire to "cleanse" themselves of black blood is strong in some people. It is known as the "pass" mentality! "
Some folks wish they were white. They hate being any portion black. If one could prove they were 1/8 Native American they could receive benefits from certain tribes.
Cauafricasian isn't on the equal employment opportunity data sheet when looking for a job. They are changing this form to include many new choices. But one drop, keeps you from totally reaching the top.
panafrica 10-26-2005, 05:21 AM So true Pan
" The desire to "cleanse" themselves of black blood is strong in some people. It is known as the "pass" mentality! "
Some folks wish they were white. They hate being any portion black. If one could prove they were 1/8 Native American they could receive benefits from certain tribes.
Cauafricasian isn't on the equal employment opportunity data sheet when looking for a job. They are changing this form to include many new choices. But one drop, keeps you from totally reaching the top.
Imagine the frustration for people who's appearance doesn't match their claims of racial diversity like Tiger Woods....oh what a quagmire!
African_Prince 10-26-2005, 07:04 PM If I'm not mistaken, Tiger Woods is 1/4th Black, his father's 50/50.
Akilles 10-26-2005, 07:40 PM Who care what Tiger Woods claims and people who give him a hard time are being foolish.
In all actuality there is no such thing as race scientically.
The Cherokee teach if all people dont stop racial and religous hating we will all suffer badly and soon.
Everyone has been mixed no matter how dark you might think you are you have some other race in your genes.
People of mixed race don't get fully accepted by blacks who sometimes believe being darker makes one purer.
They dont get fully accepted by whites who believe if you got an ounce of black in you then you're not pure white.
Mixed people can go back and forth easier than someone darker but they don't have a home.
Racial groups like Arabs and Asians came about just because of this reasons and that meant more kinds of humans creating another division onto black and white.
It's not what you are but who you are that's important.
Tiger Woods has done more to help blacks get into the game of Golf than anybody ever has. He quietly teaches the secrets to young blacks.
Some blacks take being black for granted and have nothing else better to do than talk about who is pure but have never shown any material help to liberation other than that.
Don't blow wind become it.
panafrica 10-26-2005, 08:12 PM Tiger Woods has done more to help blacks get into the game of Golf than anybody ever has. He quietly teaches the secrets to young blacks.
I beg to differ Akiles. Scientifically there most definately are different races. There are also millions of people who do not have mixed blood, I don't know why you think they're aren't. I do agree with you that Tiger Woods heritage is of little importance. However, the future of the black race does not depend on us learning golf. Therefore I'm not impressed with his supposedly teaching young blacks the sport "in secret".
P.S. We aren't Cherokee so what they say is of little consequence to us. If the Cherokee taught each other to beware of the white man, they'd still have control of this country!
P.S.S Aren't you the same person who was trying to overblow a rivarly between African Americans and West Indians? Where does that match up in your Cherokee inspired message of racial harmony?
Akilles 10-26-2005, 09:46 PM I beg to differ Akiles. Scientifically there most definately are different races. There are also millions of people who do not have mixed blood, I don't know why you think they're aren't. I do agree with you that Tiger Woods heritage is of little importance. However, the future of the black race does not depend on us learning golf. Therefore I'm not impressed with his supposedly teaching young blacks the sport "in secret".
P.S. We aren't Cherokee so what they say is of little consequence to us. If the Cherokee taught each other to beware of the white man, they'd still have control of this country!
P.S.S Aren't you the same person who was trying to overblow a rivarly between African Americans and West Indians? Where does that match up in your Cherokee inspired message of racial harmony?
You are entitled to disagree with me but not antagonize me I did not overblow the problem between AA's and African immigrants only spelled in out from my perspective!
And why are you so mean towards Cherokee peoples Africans made the same mistakes so did alot of cultures who thought the whites were impressive and became overwhelmed with their odd behavior and looks.
The future does not depend upon Golf but a lot of people haven't taught poor blacks anything other than preaching a message that has been over preached before about who is being black and who ain't.
And last but not least I shall be merciful for your ignorance of not knowing that races dont exist except in the mind of those who want to prepueate it for their own reasons.
I will give you the theory once then you can do with it what you want.
Every person has two parents 2
Then four grandparents 4
Then eight great grandparents 8
Then 16 great grandparents 16
Then 32 great-great grandparents 32
The 64 great-great-great grandparents 64
This is the 2 to the power of n systems that was discovered in Egypt that is the basis for most of our formula mathematics
Sir Isaac Newton discovered it using ancient Egyptian text given to him and he supposely invented calculas. Most history don't mention this text from Egypt.
A Russian Mathematican used the I-Ching and claimed the discovery at the same time that Isaac Newton did of calculas.
The I-Ching which is an oracle is based upon the 2 to the power of n system. And it said to hold the mystery of life.
The original I-Ching is not written in Chinese but in a Western Asian dialect of Akkadian.
The Sons of Ham of Kam short for Kemet are Cush, Akkadia and another one I forget at the moment. (I write this off the top all the time)
Well anyway the I-Ching is based on the Ife a Western African Oracle.
The 2 to the power of n is the basis of this computer I am writing on and the one you can see my writing.
The computer uses 1's and 0's in a linear pattern following 2,4,8,16,64,128 and so forth.
That's why you can't get ram which is random access memory in no format but 2,4,8,16,64,128 etc.
Last but not least the human code of DNA is found to contain acid patterns based on 2,4,8,64 and so forth.
I laid out 6 generations for you to see that if you go back to six generations you have 64 grandparents and you are telling me that all of them are of the same race?
If anyone tells me they know all those people who are long gone then there is no reason for me to keep this discussion going only report you to the nearest man in the white coat.
Peace.
indya 10-26-2005, 09:52 PM I tend to give Tiger Woods the benefit of the doubt on this subject. I don't think he's hating on his black side by saying he's a mix. He can't very well ignore the Asian side of himself since that would be hating on his Asian side.
His kids, if he has any, and he is 1/8 black and 1/2 asian, will be 1/2 white, 1/16 black, and 1/4 asian. In other words a huge mix.
African_Prince 10-26-2005, 09:55 PM I beg to differ Akiles. Scientifically there most definately are different races.
I agree with you. Race is a very real and genetic reality ( yea, I said it ), as real as the physical differences that constitute race and these physical differences aren't random in the same family w/ out mixture like eye color or hair color.
"I laid out 6 generations for you to see that if you go back to six generations you have 64 grandparents and you are telling me that all of them are of the same race?"
Yes, yes of course, in many cases. Either way there are people who are predominatly Black ,White,Asian etc.
Akilles 10-26-2005, 10:08 PM I tend to give Tiger Woods the benefit of the doubt on this subject. I don't think he's hating on his black side by saying he's a mix. He can't very well ignore the Asian side of himself since that would be hating on his Asian side.
His kids, if he has any, and he is 1/8 black and 1/2 asian, will be 1/2 white, 1/16 black, and 1/4 asian. In other words a huge mix.
You cant judge him.
Never judge a man by what he claims he is only what he does.
African_Prince 10-26-2005, 10:13 PM You cant judge him.
Never judge a man by what he claims he is only what he does.
Tiger Woods has a right to acknowledge his multi racial heritage, he's only 1/4th Black.
Akilles 10-26-2005, 10:27 PM I agree with you. Race is a very real and genetic reality ( yea, I said it ), as real as the physical differences that constitute race and these physical differences aren't random in the same family w/ out mixture like eye color or hair color.
"I laid out 6 generations for you to see that if you go back to six generations you have 64 grandparents and you are telling me that all of them are of the same race?"
Yes, yes of course, in many cases. Either way there are people who are predominatly Black ,White,Asian etc.
Surface differences can be decieving and most racist philosophies are rooted in surface differences only.
Blacks are racists.
Blacks in Rhowanda fought over dark and light complexions. Which are only surface differences.
My sister and brother are dark like Micheal Jordan. I am light like Will Smith.
I look mixed they look so-called pure African but our mother is my complexion.
Our great great grand mother is Cherokee.
If I'm mixed then so are my brothers and sisters are too. But they don't look it.
The surface is decieving.
Tiger Woods is darker than me but he is mother is Asian but my mother and father and grandmother and grandfather and great grandmother and great grandfather were all black.
The genes selects the hair and eye color all the surfaces and leaves other characteristics laid dormant.
Some characteristics become dominant and others resessive.
Proganda doesn't make this determination but necessity.
Darkskin is good for hot climate.
Pale or white skin is good for cold climate.
Brown or light brown skin is good for warm climates.
Long stringy hair is selected for cold enviroments to protect the skull.
Short hair is selected for hot enviroments to allow moisture to cool the skull.
All human features can be shown to have a purpose in the nature selection process.
Climate and Geographical location such as Latitude, mountain and hilly areas. Sandy and windy areas cause human features to vary over time.
But it doesn't change us into different species only mating selection can do that over millions of years not thousands.
People take racists views from their parents and cultures they come from.
They are passed on as ignorance never given deep thought except to valid some racists propaganda that makes the insecure feel secure and allows the immoral and strong to oppressed the weak.
You can not be racial and spiritual it doesn't work like that!
You can't be spiritual and ignorant either!
panafrica 10-26-2005, 10:34 PM My sister and brother are dark like Micheal Jordan. I am light like Will Smith.I look mixed they look so-called pure African but our mother is my complexion.Our great great grand mother is Cherokee. If I'm mixed then so are my brothers and sisters are too. But they don't look it.
All you've proven with this statement is that your family is mixed, not that every person on the face of this earth is mixed. As far as blacks being racist...what about whites? I wonder why so called "black" people come to a black website complaining about black racism. If you want all people to get along, go to an intergrationist internet forum....this isn't it! This is a website dedicated to Loving, Encouraging, Embracing, Teaching and Building With Black People. We don't make differences about nationality or skin tone. We also don't put other people's concerns and needs above our own.
Akilles 10-26-2005, 10:55 PM Your using intergrationist as a political term as opposed Pro Black or Black Supremecy?
I am Pro Black like the Panthers were like Malcolm when he came back from Mecca.
But I am a lover and compassionate person like Martin Luther King jr.
I am helping out those of my community who have fallen to oppression but I am not for advocating nonsense no matter what it is.
Every one on Earth is mixed. And so are you? And you look mixed from your picture!
But I didn't need to see you to confirm that.
Black racism exists and racism is a human condition not a white one. The whites are better at it and more prolific with it.
But nevertheless it is a human problem and we are not exempt because we lost the race war?
But we can build for the future a different world. Africans can be the example like Halle Salliasse intended.
We can end the race war!
How long do you think the human race can go on with the idea that there are different races?
And what if Africans rule the world one day what will we do with other races?
Do you even get my point.
In Christ there are no bond or free.
No small or great.
No rich or poor.
No Greek nor Jew.
For all are one with Christ.
If you hate others how can you claim to love your own?
Some of them you have never meet.
Akilles 10-26-2005, 11:24 PM Beware some are pretending to be Pro Black and are agents for the Gov't.
Their job is to infiltrate and confuse the movement.
Their motivation?
Money, women, drugs, the Gov't got a hold over them, cowardice, success and the worst the same immoral and evil values of the enemy!
spicybrown 10-26-2005, 11:58 PM If I'm not mistaken, Tiger Woods is 1/4th Black, his father's 50/50.
No, an older thread stated that his Father was 1/4 Black, thus making him 1/8 Black, you know the thin line between being Black, and being non-black. I would like to see some pictures of Tigers paternal grandparents to prove it. Tigers' dad is dark-skinned with Black features!!!! Being half Indian is not the same as 2%. I see nothing Indian about his father, except for his eyes:uhoh:
spicybrown 10-27-2005, 12:05 AM "Tiger Woods has done more to help blacks get into the game of Golf than anybody ever has. He quietly teaches the secrets to young blacks."
SOOOOOO...... he's helping young Black/mixed boys believe it's o.k. to deny obvious Black mixture? Why sell out, he's at the pinnacle of his career. If they were to terminate him from this sport, him, and his next 4-5 successive generations would live in hogs heaven. Sure he makes the Black race look good, but not when he disowns his Blackness. Has he ever denied his other portions? He obviously looks more Black than anything else.
spicybrown 10-27-2005, 12:29 AM All I was trying to find out was if Tiger really is the admixture that he is. Since A PREVIOUS THREAD mentioned him as being only12% Black, I was questioning his loyalty to Black, as he clings to his Caublanasian title. The law says if you have less than 1/8 Black, you're removed from the category. It's ironic, looking at his choice of mate, his statement that I'm not Black I'm Cabl*&^%^&%$. I bet he would never say "I'm not Thai, I'm caublinasian".This is more like a slave mentality. I don't see why he is so successful, and denying who he truly is. Most people do it to get ahead why him? If he weren't famous people wouldn't regard him as such. Other races just feel more at ease of a bi-racial person making his acheivments, rater than a full-blown negro. A whiteman once asked me if my family were Persian or from India. I told him no, but he refused to believe me, and insisted I was a pro-Black freak, WTF:happens:
Deepvoice 10-27-2005, 01:46 AM We need to stop breaking ourselves into percentages, ge'ez! I read somewhere that there is just as much genetic difference between one "black" African ethnic group and another as there is between them("black" Africans) and Europeans. I think when we do this to our people that we are objectifying ourselves. When we start using numbers, percentages and ratios as if there are no intangibles that make a people a people, it makes me feel like we have no culture or real identity.
So what if Panafrica looks mixed, who cares if my grandfather was a jet-black man with straight hair? Every other group of people I've ever seen look to values, culture, language, and many other things to unite themselves. Mariah Carey is my people(what, homie?), Spike Lee is my people, and all those in between that may feel some kind of relation to me and mine.
Why do we have to do this? Cause whites do it? Can we get our own style or our own way of classification?
Until we stop looking at people and writing them off as or not our people, we will always be a disillusioned people.
panafrica 10-27-2005, 05:41 AM I am Pro Black like the Panthers were like Malcolm when he came back from Mecca.
I highly doubt that! Pro-black people don't proudly dillute their African heritage by breaking it down into percentages (promoting every other race that is, or is believed to be in their blood). That isn't pro-blackness, it is trying to disappear into the American melting pot! Indeed, that isn't pro-blackness it is pro-confusion.
panafrica 10-27-2005, 05:44 AM Beware some are pretending to be Pro Black and are agents for the Gov't.
Their job is to infiltrate and confuse the movement.
Their motivation?
Money, women, drugs, the Gov't got a hold over them, cowardice, success and the worst the same immoral and evil values of the enemy!
You mean like people coming on black owned and operated internet forums claiming to be problack. Then start promoting tribalism against blacks and interracial unity? Is this a confession Akilles?
Sekhemu 10-27-2005, 07:37 AM Your using intergrationist as a political term as opposed Pro Black or Black Supremecy?
I am Pro Black like the Panthers were like Malcolm when he came back from Mecca.
But I am a lover and compassionate person like Martin Luther King jr.
I am helping out those of my community who have fallen to oppression but I am not for advocating nonsense no matter what it is.
Every one on Earth is mixed. And so are you? And you look mixed from your picture!
But I didn't need to see you to confirm that.
Black racism exists and racism is a human condition not a white one. The whites are better at it and more prolific with it.
But nevertheless it is a human problem and we are not exempt because we lost the race war?
But we can build for the future a different world. Africans can be the example like Halle Salliasse intended.
We can end the race war!
How long do you think the human race can go on with the idea that there are different races?
And what if Africans rule the world one day what will we do with other races?
Do you even get my point.
In Christ there are no bond or free.
No small or great.
No rich or poor.
No Greek nor Jew.
For all are one with Christ.
If you hate others how can you claim to love your own?
Some of them you have never meet.
First of all, what proof do you have that ALL people are mixed? Moreover why do you care if blacks are mixed with other groups?
Secondly, the issue of whether or not a black person can be a racist has been rehashed in another thread to the point of exhaustion. You think black people can be racist, most of the members here do not.
Mad Skillz 10-27-2005, 09:13 AM 1) Tiger would grudgingly embrace his Blackness even if his life depended on it.
2) Men like Tiger would be the first to complain about the lack of quality, professional Black women available. Yet men like Tiger are quick to marry a Becky nobody who's done nothing meaningful in their life except baby sit kids.
3) Given this notion I can't understand why some of our people patronize this guy.
4) The only instances for people like Tiger to embrace their Blackness is when it's convenient, such as when white folks at Stanford were giving Tiger a hard time. Suddenly Tiger becomes Black and runs to the NAACP for help.
A I stated before some multiracials are Black only when it's convenient or fasionable.
panafrica 10-27-2005, 09:45 AM A I stated before some multiracials are Black only when it's convenient or fasionable.
That is correct, and those who come among black people promoting the benefits of having mixed blood are suspect!
African_Prince 10-27-2005, 10:35 AM Surface differences can be decieving and most racist philosophies are rooted in surface differences only.
Blacks are racists.
Blacks in Rhowanda fought over dark and light complexions. Which are only surface differences.
My sister and brother are dark like Micheal Jordan. I am light like Will Smith.
I look mixed they look so-called pure African but our mother is my complexion.
Our great great grand mother is Cherokee.
If I'm mixed then so are my brothers and sisters are too. But they don't look it.
The surface is decieving.
Tiger Woods is darker than me but he is mother is Asian but my mother and father and grandmother and grandfather and great grandmother and great grandfather were all black.
The genes selects the hair and eye color all the surfaces and leaves other characteristics laid dormant.
Some characteristics become dominant and others resessive.
Proganda doesn't make this determination but necessity.
Darkskin is good for hot climate.
Pale or white skin is good for cold climate.
Brown or light brown skin is good for warm climates.
Long stringy hair is selected for cold enviroments to protect the skull.
Short hair is selected for hot enviroments to allow moisture to cool the skull.
All human features can be shown to have a purpose in the nature selection process.
Climate and Geographical location such as Latitude, mountain and hilly areas. Sandy and windy areas cause human features to vary over time.
But it doesn't change us into different species only mating selection can do that over millions of years not thousands.
People take racists views from their parents and cultures they come from.
They are passed on as ignorance never given deep thought except to valid some racists propaganda that makes the insecure feel secure and allows the immoral and strong to oppressed the weak.
You can not be racial and spiritual it doesn't work like that!
You can't be spiritual and ignorant either!
How does ANY of this prove race doesn't exist? The fact humans fight over things that aren't race related? The fact that many people are mixed or have mixed ancestors ( just because you're light skinned doesn't mean you're "mixed", someone is mixed if they are 50/50 or multi racial, not predominatly Black with some nob-Black ancestry)? How these physical differences we use to classify race came about? The fact that racial groups vary physicallly among themselves? Race is as real as the physical differences we use to determine them, you find light and dark skinned Black people in the same family, you don't find blonde haired blue eyed, pale skinned White people and dark skinned Black people who are full brothers and sisters.These physical differences aren't random, they are transmitted genetically. These physical differences usually help identify what region in the world somebody's ancestors originated from ( within modern times ).Nobody can deny we all belong to the same human species. I agree spirituality is universal and not racial but you say you are pro-Black and spiritual, but not racial and spiritual?
African_Prince 10-27-2005, 10:49 AM [QUOTE=African_Prince]If I'm not mistaken, Tiger Woods is 1/4th Black, his father's 50/50.[/QUOTE
No, an older thread stated that his Father was 1/4 Black, thus making him 1/8 Black, you know the thin line between being Black, and being non-black. I would like to see some pictures of Tigers paternal grandparents to prove it. Tigers' dad is dark-skinned with Black features!!!! Being half Indian is not the same as 2%. I see nothing Indian about his father, except for his eyes:uhoh:
"All I was trying to find out was if Tiger really is the admixture that he is. Since A PREVIOUS THREAD mentioned him as being only12% Black, I was questioning his loyalty to Black, as he clings to his Caublanasian title. The law says if you have less than 1/8 Black, you're removed from the category. It's ironic, looking at his choice of mate, his statement that I'm not Black I'm Cabl*&^%^&%$. I bet he would never say "I'm not Thai, I'm caublinasian".This is more like a slave mentality. I don't see why he is so successful, and denying who he truly is. Most people do it to get ahead why him? If he weren't famous people wouldn't regard him as such. Other races just feel more at ease of a bi-racial person making his acheivments, rater than a full-blown negro. A whiteman once asked me if my family were Persian or from India. I told him no, but he refused to believe me, and insisted I was a pro-Black freak, WTF"
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According to http://www.mixedfolks.com/athletes.htm, his father is 1/2 Black, 1/4th Chinese and 1/4th Native American and his mother is 1/2 Thai, 1/4th Caucasian and 1/4th Chinese. No matter what he looks like he has a right to acknowledge all of his heritage. You don't know that he wouldn't say 'I'm not Thai, I'm CaBlAsian" because nobody pins any Thai one drop rule on him. 'Cablasian' may sound weird to you but he acknowledges he's Black in that. He is what he is. If I were him if anything I'd take away the "Ca", imagine somebody who was 1/8th White and 7/8th Black calling themselves 'CaBlack', but if my calculations are correct in total he is 50% east Asian ( 12.5% Chinese from his dad,25% Thai from his mom and 12.5% Chinese from his mom/ also 12.5% Native American, 12.5% Caucasian and 25% Black) he has a right to acknowledge that.
spicybrown 10-27-2005, 11:27 PM [QUOTE=spicybrown]
"All I was trying to find out was if Tiger really is the admixture that he is. Since A PREVIOUS THREAD mentioned him as being only12% Black, I was questioning his loyalty to Black, as he clings to his Caublanasian title. The law says if you have less than 1/8 Black, you're removed from the category. It's ironic, looking at his choice of mate, his statement that I'm not Black I'm Cabl*&^%^&%$. I bet he would never say "I'm not Thai, I'm caublinasian".This is more like a slave mentality. I don't see why he is so successful, and denying who he truly is. Most people do it to get ahead why him? If he weren't famous people wouldn't regard him as such. Other races just feel more at ease of a bi-racial person making his acheivments, rater than a full-blown negro. A whiteman once asked me if my family were Persian or from India. I told him no, but he refused to believe me, and insisted I was a pro-Black freak, WTF"
According to http://www.mixedfolks.com/athletes.htm, his father is 1/2 Black, 1/4th Chinese and 1/4th Native American and his mother is 1/2 Thai, 1/4th Caucasian and 1/4th Chinese. No matter what he looks like he has a right to acknowledge all of his heritage. You don't know that he wouldn't say 'I'm not Thai, I'm CaBlAsian" because nobody pins any Thai one drop rule on him. 'Cablasian' may sound weird to you but he acknowledges he's Black in that. He is what he is. If I were him if anything I'd take away the "Ca", imagine somebody who was 1/8th White and 7/8th Black calling themselves 'CaBlack', but if my calculations are correct in total he is 50% east Asian ( 12.5% Chinese from his dad,25% Thai from his mom and 12.5% Chinese from his mom/ also 12.5% Native American, 12.5% Caucasian and 25% Black) he has a right to acknowledge that.
My main problem is that people think mixing will blurr racial lines, when in reality it adds to it. If the main beef is Black vs. White, then pretty soon, there'll be petty uprisings between Blindians and Blaxicans, and so forth. The parents of these children always say color played no role in their mating, but nowadays, they are pushing several identities on their children that they "claim" didn't make a difference when these same children were concieved. I smell self hate, while most of these parents may be happy to see "something else" in the little version of them. I can say my father is mixed, but not with his open enemy's blood, and it was not done through rape, plus with a minority whom Blacks can truly relate to. Most multiracial people cannot trace the culture they claim, and don't even celebrate it. They just lay claim to the fame in the name.:geek
Monetary 10-28-2005, 02:16 PM I tend to give Tiger Woods the benefit of the doubt on this subject. I don't think he's hating on his black side by saying he's a mix. He can't very well ignore the Asian side of himself since that would be hating on his Asian side.
His kids, if he has any, and he is 1/8 black and 1/2 asian, will be 1/2 white, 1/16 black, and 1/4 asian. In other words a huge mix.I know you posted this awhile back. But those numbers don't add up to me.
karmashines 10-28-2005, 03:51 PM It's sad when blacks do this... and it's not just bi/multi-racials like Tiger Woods. There are 'regular' blacks who have no immediate interracial mixture that put other bloodlines over the main one, their African heritage.
For example... when I was in middle school the teacher asked the class what race we were. Oh boy... there were ethnicities I hardly ever heard before such as Czechoslavikian... but how many kids in this mostly black school just put black on their paper? Not very many.
jamesfrmphilly 10-28-2005, 04:02 PM Beware some are pretending to be Pro Black and are agents for the Gov't.
Their job is to infiltrate and confuse the movement.
Their motivation?
Money, women, drugs, the Gov't got a hold over them, cowardice, success and the worst the same immoral and evil values of the enemy!
is this a confession?
HODEE 10-28-2005, 04:04 PM Surface differences can be decieving and most racist philosophies are rooted in surface differences only.
Blacks are racists.
Blacks in Rhowanda fought over dark and light complexions. Which are only surface differences.
My sister and brother are dark like Micheal Jordan. I am light like Will Smith.
I look mixed they look so-called pure African but our mother is my complexion.
Our great great grand mother is Cherokee.
If I'm mixed then so are my brothers and sisters are too. But they don't look it.
The surface is decieving.
Tiger Woods is darker than me but he is mother is Asian but my mother and father and grandmother and grandfather and great grandmother and great grandfather were all black.
The genes selects the hair and eye color all the surfaces and leaves other characteristics laid dormant.
Some characteristics become dominant and others resessive.
Proganda doesn't make this determination but necessity.
Darkskin is good for hot climate.
Pale or white skin is good for cold climate.
Brown or light brown skin is good for warm climates.
Long stringy hair is selected for cold enviroments to protect the skull.
Short hair is selected for hot enviroments to allow moisture to cool the skull.
All human features can be shown to have a purpose in the nature selection process.
Climate and Geographical location such as Latitude, mountain and hilly areas. Sandy and windy areas cause human features to vary over time.
But it doesn't change us into different species only mating selection can do that over millions of years not thousands.
People take racists views from their parents and cultures they come from.
They are passed on as ignorance never given deep thought except to valid some racists propaganda that makes the insecure feel secure and allows the immoral and strong to oppressed the weak.
You can not be racial and spiritual it doesn't work like that!
You can't be spiritual and ignorant either!
Blacks are racists. Whats this?
How can blacks be racist?
We don't profess that our race is superior to another.
To maintain that ( personally like the whites claim they ( racist ) never owned slaves ) Blacks in america hasn't enslaved another.. even in the slavery. all reported to happen in Africa.. those servants were not abused based on their skin color.
You got this right.
" Darkskin is good for hot climate." This is why we were out in the hot sun picking cotton.
" Pale or white skin is good for cold climate." And they were inside under the fans ( slaves waved feathers and big paper fans over their heads and cranked gears on the walls that turned big fans. ) While the Pale face.. was Drinking a tall glass of southern Lemonade.
You think they gave the Native American a even chance.. they killed them when they refused to pick cotton. As they killed us.. native and black in their higher schools of learning they used the bodies to further understand the differences and measured the nose, brain weight and skull size of those they killed. So specs are out on Asians, Blacks, and Native Americans.. the blood is different, the skin is different.
Accept after whites die they do revert back to black. Never last three days or your looking at a closed casket. To a racist being black would make them cry. So blacks aren't racist.
And you know what they are perplexed and are severely baffled because thru all they did. We still survived.
You can not be racial and spiritual it doesn't work like that!
Tell that to whitey.
" Climate and Geographical location such as Latitude, mountain and hilly areas. Sandy and windy areas cause human features to vary over time. "
So like water shapes a rock. Do you think we are better shaped to survive since racist dragged us here, decided to crush all human interaction with us, denied us education and then have the gall to call us ignorant today or not educated and as advanced as he. Denying another human being all the good will that can be expressed towards men. Shaped us ( causing us to get blacker, hair nappier, and made our nose and other human features more defined over time ) like the winds shaped those latitudes.
Latitude and Attitude is the issue.
Racist here must change their attitude cause there is no other latitude to travel. Where one can escape him.
jamesfrmphilly 10-28-2005, 04:05 PM We can end the race war!
actually, i would rather win it!
HODEE 10-28-2005, 04:15 PM " But nevertheless it is a human problem and we are not exempt because we lost the race war? "
Was there a rce war and I missed it?
The only race that truly took place I can find. Was the race to divide up Africa.
HODEE 10-28-2005, 04:22 PM Beware some are pretending to be Pro Black and are agents for the Gov't.
Their job is to infiltrate and confuse the movement.
Their motivation?
These are Communist practices. They used propagada, drugs, murder and when that don't work they ruin your rep. So no one listens and they term you solved.
We will be heard. Listened to or no one speaks. The Government is going down... Roll call on the names. Scotter you go first.
Tantrum 11-24-2005, 08:50 AM Tiger can suck a crabby patty this fool is black
He can keep that 1/8 crap and shove it
No matter what percent he is black in the white mans eyes
None black marrying fool
Dude is a joke too me
I am not a tiger woods fan!!!
Tiger Woods On Race
MEDIA STATEMENT:
The purpose of this statement is to explain my heritage for the benefit of members of the media who may be seeing me play for the first time. It is the final and only comment I will make regarding the issue.
My parents have taught me to always be proud of my ethnic background. Please rest assured that is, and always will be, the case - past, present, and future.
The media has portrayed me as African-American; sometimes, Asian. In fact, I am both.
Yes, I am the product of two great cultures, one African-American and the other Asian.
On my father's side, I am African-American. On my mother's side, I am Thai. Truthfully, I feel very fortunate, and EQUALLY PROUD, to be both African-American and Asian!
The critical and fundamental point is that ethnic background and/or composition should NOT make a difference. It does NOT make a difference to me. The bottom line is that I am an American...and proud of it!
That is who I am and what I am. Now, with your cooperation, I hope I can just be a golfer and a human being.
Signed,
TIGER WOODS
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/2396/tigerrace.html
Keita Kenyatta 11-25-2005, 12:07 AM It seems as if I always have to re-post this for those of us who incorrectly THINK THAT BLACK PEOPLE CAN BE RACIST !!
Okay people, lets be rational and objective about this. I say, based upon history that the answer is NO ! A black person can not be racist. However, before stating why this is so, let us turn to "The Oxford Companion To The English Language" for a better definition of this word so that we have some clarity. Mind you, this is not the definition of black people, but of the highest authority of White people. It is as follows:
1. The word Racism is of European origin. French.
2. Although often presented as scientific, especially in the wake of Darwinism, such a theory serves to buttress the assumption that one's own race is superior to all others. It may follow from this that one's own race therefore has, among other things, the right to control (and, when deemed necessary, enslave and even exterminate) people of races that are taken to be inferior or undesirable. It was used to justify European expansion and taken to extremes by the Nazis during world war two and continues to underpin the concept of white supremacy.
Okay, time for class to begin ! Based upon their own definition above, no black person can be a racist. Based upon the definition,which is theirs, it is a system of control. Therefore racisim is a system of white people, by white people, that is used to control, enslave, and exterminate anyone not classified as white.
The key words to understand is that it's a system of control. What do black people control ? We don't control our education, they do. We don't control the economics of this country, they do. We don't control the health care, the entertainment industry, the produce, the laws, the religions, the banking system or anything else as it relates to anyone...including ourselves. We know who controls all of this, and based upon their own definition of their own word, the only racist in the world are white people !!!
The only thing that black people can be is prejudice, because we clearly do not have the system, the control or the power to be racist. How we may ask does this affect anyone on a personal level ? Well lets face it, if you don't like someone because they are white, it means absolutely nothing at all.
If on the other hand a white person don't like you...whether it be on the job, at the realestate office, the bank, the police, the judge, the hospital or anyplace at all...it carries a lot of weight and can affect your life on a personal level. THAT IS POWER, THAT IS CONTROL, THAT IS RACISM !! So would someone in their infinite wisdom please clarify to me how a black person can be racist ?
soulsearcher 11-25-2005, 09:55 AM It seems as if I always have to re-post this for those of us who incorrectly THINK THAT BLACK PEOPLE CAN BE RACIST !!
Okay people, lets be rational and objective about this. I say, based upon history that the answer is NO ! A black person can not be racist. However, before stating why this is so, let us turn to "The Oxford Companion To The English Language" for a better definition of this word so that we have some clarity. Mind you, this is not the definition of black people, but of the highest authority of White people. It is as follows:
1. The word Racism is of European origin. French.
2. Although often presented as scientific, especially in the wake of Darwinism, such a theory serves to buttress the assumption that one's own race is superior to all others. It may follow from this that one's own race therefore has, among other things, the right to control (and, when deemed necessary, enslave and even exterminate) people of races that are taken to be inferior or undesirable. It was used to justify European expansion and taken to extremes by the Nazis during world war two and continues to underpin the concept of white supremacy.
Okay, time for class to begin ! Based upon their own definition above, no black person can be a racist. Based upon the definition,which is theirs, it is a system of control. Therefore racisim is a system of white people, by white people, that is used to control, enslave, and exterminate anyone not classified as white.
The key words to understand is that it's a system of control. What do black people control ? We don't control our education, they do. We don't control the economics of this country, they do. We don't control the health care, the entertainment industry, the produce, the laws, the religions, the banking system or anything else as it relates to anyone...including ourselves. We know who controls all of this, and based upon their own definition of their own word, the only racist in the world are white people !!!
The only thing that black people can be is prejudice, because we clearly do not have the system, the control or the power to be racist. How we may ask does this affect anyone on a personal level ? Well lets face it, if you don't like someone because they are white, it means absolutely nothing at all.
If on the other hand a white person don't like you...whether it be on the job, at the realestate office, the bank, the police, the judge, the hospital or anyplace at all...it carries a lot of weight and can affect your life on a personal level. THAT IS POWER, THAT IS CONTROL, THAT IS RACISM !! So would someone in their infinite wisdom please clarify to me how a black person can be racist ?
Black people can't be 'racist', I agree with that.
However, extreme levels of PREJUDICE will not help our situation either. There is a difference between being realistic about what other cultures have done and are doing against us (recognzing the REALITY of their RACISM) and inherently hating individuals of whatever race because they are a certain race. People can't help who and what they are, that's a fact of nature.
Anyway, we need to spend more time trying to be in a position of CONTROL so that we worry less what others are going to be doing to us.
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