Here are the questions to facilitate the discussion of chapter one. Again let me remind you that this thread will be dedicated to the first chapter. To avoid confucion and keep the integrity of the structure of thos discuss please do not discuss and other section of the bood in this thread unless you're making a brief mention as it relates to this section.

Please read the chapter before joining the discussions. It would also be helpful if you jot down your ideas beforehand so everyone will have something to bring to the table thus reducing the occurance of "group think." During the discussion you may change your ideas but first have some ideas to change.

Your answers should be substantiated by what is in the book. However they can also show your own independent thoughts.

1. What are some characteristics of religions created by left brain societies?

2. Can a left brain society develop itself spiritually?

3. What are the characteristics of religions created by a right brain society?

4. Does a right brain society need religion based on Amen's definition of the word?

5. What are your initial feelings or conceptions about trance? Ancestors?

1. What are some characteristics of religions created by left brain societies?

One important characteristic of religions created by left-brain societies is the separation of the feminine aspect of the Creator. By denying the feminine principle in left-brained culture (i.e. western), it stemmed over into their religious doctrines. As a result, instead of having a dual aspect of the one "God", you only have one, the masculine principle. An example is shown in Christianity, where you have a supreme being (god) who is ALWAYS referred to as a man.

Another characteristic is the lack of a "cultivation system" within the religion that enhances the moral behavior of a person's being. Western religions are big on sermons and singing hymns, which is good. But hearing sermons and singing hymns will do nothing to correct the behavior of a person who is influenced by his/her emotions. There must be some meditation techniques implemented in that religion that helps to cultivate one's spirit.

2. Can a left brain society develop itself spiritually?

There must be a balancement with the "right-brain" in order for this to occur. We currently live in a left-brain society and have been for centuries. A left-brained society segregates, separates and ultimately annihilates. A left-brain society is also one that does not know about creating and maintaining order because it is focused on the "external part of being". It is directed outside of itself for guidance on morality and spirituality. The major religions in left-brained societies rely heavily on holy books, scriptures and holy men (ministers, bishops, popes, Imams, etc.) for guidance. How can a "left-brained" society become spiritual when it's hypocritical acts in the world goes against the moral values it preaches?

3. What are the characteristics of religions created by a right brain society?

In right-brained societies, the Supreme Being was always revered as a balancement between male and female. The Supreme Being was seen as two halves of the Divine whole, or the great "God" and great "Goddess". In ancient Kamit, all throughout the temples and sacred writings(eg. Mdw Ntr), you will find the names of Amen and Amenet, which signifies "God and Goddess" as one Divine entity.

It was widely known that the Great mother and Great father was ONE divine entity. It was the European biasness, chauvanism, and misunderstanding which led to the one God being a "he". God represents both masculine and feminine energy. In the subjective realm, there is "nothingness" or "consciousness aware of being conscious". This divine energy has experience in the objective realm as plants, animals, people, rocks, air, etc.

The religions of the "right-brained" cultures share in common the relationship to the whole and unification. Intuition and trance was/is used as a means for spiritual guidance instead of relying solely on scriptures and sermons. For example, in Africa, all of our ancestral traditions are rooted in the ritual incorporation of 'Divine Law' and the ritual restoration of 'Divine Balance'. This is the essence of African ancestral religion. All of our cultural expressions reflect this: the nature of our clothing, our names, our languages, the designs of our homes, shrines, temples, villages, our food selections and preparations, observances of taboos, our ceremonies, songs, dances, use of oils, incense, stones, gems, plants, animals, etc.


4. Does a right brain society need religion based on Amen's definition of the word?

The word religion is composed of the prefix "re" (again, back) and legion (ligare, legein), which means to "tie back, reconnect, yoke, etc". Just by the prefix "re", there is an implication of unifying people back to something they originally had. Being that one of the functions of the right-brain is unification, there is no need to "tie back" or "reconnect" to something that has been lost. Religions in western societies are efforts made by left-brained cultures to mimic the spirituality of right-brained cultures.

5. What are your initial feelings or conceptions about trance? Ancestors?

By being proficient in trance, it gives one the ability to communicate into the subjective realm with the ancestors. We built rituals and shrines in order to establish communication with them as a means of obtaining direction in our lives. Communicating with our ancestors through trance has helped Africans truly understand the nature of wo/man. They are the living proof that there is life after death. Some cultures have falsely classified our communication with the ancestors as "ancestor worship". For the record, we (Africans) have never worshipped our ancestors. The concept of so-called "ancesor worship" was conceived by westerners and not by Africans.





Htp.u

i have been reading and trying to learn how to meditate.
i do not consider it religious.
i do not think of myself as being a religious person.

to me religion means believing in something that you cannot see.

i expect to see something.
if i do not then i will have to reject it.
i am exploring to see if there is a practical energy that will work.

i have been reading and trying to learn how to meditate.
i do not consider it religious.
i do not think of myself as being a religious person.

to me religion means believing in something that you cannot see.

i expect to see something.
if i do not then i will have to reject it.
i am exploring to see if there is a practical energy that will work.

That's deep. I agree 100%.

1. What are some characteristics of religions created by left brain societies?

Christianity.

2. Can a left brain society develop itself spiritually?

Not without a prerequisite of understandings that cater mainly to the right side.

3. What are the characteristics of religions created by a right brain society?

Buddhism, Hinduism, Metu Neter, Ifa, Yoruba.........Most native spiritual systems are right-side substantiated.

4. Does a right brain society need religion based on Amen's definition of the word?

Baded keenly on that definition, not at all. We have to always remember what religion is, where it came from, and who perpetuates it.

5. What are your initial feelings or conceptions about trance? Ancestors?

Initiatially (re: prior to having an in-depth knowledge), these things were to be respected, if not equally feared.

Now, I understand that these things are intrinsic to spiritual development.

HOTEPET

Hello Family,

I'm here at this school and a lady finally showed me how to disable the program that was making it impossible for me to log on and post here. My time will be limited because of my classes and stuff but I'm glad to see y'all working on the Metu Neter here.

1. What are some characteristics of religions created by left brain societies?

As Sun of Ra indicates the major characteristic is separation. As Jesus said he did not come to bring peace but a sword of separation. In this separation is a false valuation and judgement of the one thing that is separated from the other--light from darkness, Jews from Gentiles, Christians from everybody else, Whites from everybody else. In a world supposedly created by one God only a small number of things actually have God's approval.

Samura answerted question 2 succinctly.

3. The religions of right brain societies I would say are basically designed to prepare the sahu to move towards the spiritual Ba understanding and experience. Unlike in western societies religion in Africa is a starting place--a doorway rather than something to die with.

4.
I would have to say that according to Amen's definition of religion and based on what I just said above a right brained society does still need that starting place since people aren't born with a natural inclination to pursue truly spiritual endeavors (denying the desires of the flesh, intuitive learning etc.). As Amen says humans remain in the Sahu stage until around age 28. If there is no means to tie people back until they reach that age much damage can be done to themselves and to society.

Brother Sam, I feel ya on trance and ancestors. My curiosity is getting the best of my fear which is turning into a healthy resect for the serousness and consequences of these entities. Amen affirms my apprehension in a later chapter when he admonishes readers not to try these things without a teacher. To me a teacher means someone who has been there and done that. At the same time I am eager to attain the understanding and spirutal depth that trannce and ancestor communication bring.

Here are the questions to facilitate the discussion of chapter one. Again let me remind you that this thread will be dedicated to the first chapter. To avoid confucion and keep the integrity of the structure of thos discuss please do not discuss and other section of the bood in this thread unless you're making a brief mention as it relates to this section.

Please read the chapter before joining the discussions. It would also be helpful if you jot down your ideas beforehand so everyone will have something to bring to the table thus reducing the occurance of "group think." During the discussion you may change your ideas but first have some ideas to change.

Your answers should be substantiated by what is in the book. However they can also show your own independent thoughts.

1. What are some characteristics of religions created by left brain societies?

2. Can a left brain society develop itself spiritually?

3. What are the characteristics of religions created by a right brain society?

4. Does a right brain society need religion based on Amen's definition of the word?

5. What are your initial feelings or conceptions about trance? Ancestors?

1. What are some characteristics of religions created by left brain societies?

According to the book, the left side of our brains appeals to the analytical and logical aspect of our psyche. It helps us operate more on the primal/physical level. In small doses this is good... it helps us concentrate on a problem at hand and tends to help foster technological development. In large doeses, however, it is detrimental because it hinders growth of the right more spiritual side of our brains.

Thus, religions created left-brained societies are void of individual spirituality. Their vision of God and the astral plane while somewhat 'logical' are rigid and do not take into account the' gray' area of life. They stifle spiritual progress because a person is not allowed to think for themselves. People influenced by a left-brained religion are doomed to be trapped in a delusion unless something phenemonal gets them to see the light.

2. Can a left brain society develop itself spiritually?

Yes, if there is an appropriate balance of right-brained thought.

It is interesting how for most of God's living, animalistic creation the feminine (right-brain) and masculine (left-brain), must unite to continue a species existence. So, if one wants to use nature as the basis of philosophy, then one can surmise that being left-brained is not bad, nor is being right-brained. It's the absence of unity with the opposite half that is the problem.

However, being solely left-brain shuts off the possibility of accepting right-brained thought. So essentially such a society is closing itself off to learning how it can grow spiritually, since you need the right-brain to maintain healthy spirituality. This is not the case with a solely right-brained society who would be able to consider left-brained thoughts if they felt it would improve their existence.

3. What are the characteristics of religions created by a right brain society?

The right brain is responsible for our spiritual side. It helps foster creative thought along with emotional expression. Women, (perhaps because of our responsibility in bearing children), tend to be more right-brained then men. This is why religions in right-brained societies honor women through worship of various goddesses.

Right-brained religions also encourage individual spirituality. This includes meditation and trance states, where a person can either get more of their own thoughts to solve a problem or even visit the astral realm and get a revelation from an ancestor.

Right-brained religions also tend to promote harmony with the earth and nature.

4. Does a right brain society need religion based on Amen's definition of the word?

No, they don't. Religion is a set of principles established by someone else on how you should express your spirituality. Religion based on right-brained societies encourage individual expression. So what they teach is not their philosophy on how you should live but rather, instructions on how to achieve a deeper level of spirituality. A true right-brain religion would not advocate the message that one MUST do or not do a certain thing to achieve spiritual peace.

5. What are your initial feelings or conceptions about trance? Ancestors?

These elements of spirituality are even more important to explore for independent spiritualists stuck in a left-brained culture. They are interesting in that though they are spiritual in nature, they appeal enough to our left-brain 'logical' side that we feel it is real. Like James was saying, it helps you actually see 'something'.

The downside is that it could be dangerous only because there are evil spirits in the astral plane that want to leech on our energy. Our exposure to these spirits is probably worse due to the fact that we have been poisoned by a left-brained culture.... trance and ancestors are of the devil. And unfortunately, if a beginner tries these things and experiences something bad, they may revert back to the harmful left-brained religions that caused them to be more suspectible to such experiences in the first place. So, if one does embark in this, they should be grounded in their beliefs and realize that just because something bad happens in their spiritual experience doesn't mean their spiritual system, (in this case Kemetician theology) is evil.

as people do not reach a spiritual maturity until 28 is it wise to marry before then?
should courtship and procreation be based on the sahu?

as people do not reach a spiritual maturity until 28 is it wise to marry before then?
should courtship and procreation be based on the sahu?

Most people in American culture nowadays are marrying later than that because they want to get their career established.

Now whether it should be this way... who knows. Culturally it is not likely for many societies because the desire for sex/procreation comes before maturity.

the desire for sex/procreation comes before maturity.
yes, think about that.
is that the root of a lot of trouble? it sure was in my life.
i was out humping before i had a clue. not a clue!

yes, think about that.
is that the root of a lot of trouble? it sure was in my life.
i was out humping before i had a clue. not a clue!

Well, there has always been ways to limit pregnancies and so forth... and today we have a whole bunch of things at our disposal. So if one can't abstain, (which is the case for many if not most people), the next course of action would be to use protection and learn how to manage the desire for love with the desire to establish your place in life. Keep in mind though, that for some people having children makes them mature quickly, compelling them to achieve more in their life. So having kids young doesn't always mean putting your dreams on hold.

The idea of delaying life experiences until one is mature doesn't really stick since it is through experiences that we become mature.

That is something that Amen emphasizes and I would also like to bring up. Kemetian theology is not a painless route to spiritual growth and spiritual growth does not occur in a vaccuum. We cannot become disciplined by meditating on the thought "I am disciplined. I am disciplined." We can not obtain wisdom by passively receiving informationg from our ancestors in the astral plane. In fact the astral plane is in the lower Sahu division of the spirit. Wisdom and all the good things we obtain through spiritual growth are much higher.

What we get out of meditating and trance is power. . True spiritual growth is not the power itself but the way we use that power. In wicca the practitioneer is stuck in the Sahu division of the spirit. Their philosophy is "As long as it harms no one do what you like." They mistake travelling in the astral plane and having metaphysical poweer as spirituality. But you cannot live anyway you like and expect to grow spiritually. This is why their experience is often marked by attack and posession by evil spirits. Having metaphysical powers without true spiritual growth is like picking up a hot coal with the intention of throwing it. You will be burned long before you can make any use of it.

The marks of true spiritual growth Amen discribes when an oracle tells you you will succeed at your planned endeavor but at the expense of someone else. At that point you are at what he calls a crossroads. At that point you can truly make a choice. You have the power to do what you want. The purpose of this power is to give us an opportunity to grow spiritually. Spiritual growth cannot happen unless we make a choice and it is not a true cloice if we don't have the power to go either way. As C. S. Lewis says there's no point saying we choose to lie down when it is impossible to stand up. So when we have the power to seek our own interest but we choose to consider the well being of others that's where we grow spiritually. That's where we achieve oneness with the universe and we can truly call ourselves gods and goddesses.

This is also where Christianity fails so miserably. They teach us to fear the very power that we need to live according to God's law so all we can do is agree with that law then ask forgiveness when we violate it. Then they twist God's law around giving us the clergy's likes and dislikes in its place so we don't even know what we aere violatiing (the blind leading the blind). Kemetian spirituality gives us both the wisdom to intuit what God's true will is and the power to live by it.

Hotep

When one wants to know what is the Origenal way for the so-called Afrikan, who is with out a boupt The closes Descendant of the Origenal (Mind) man on Earth. All so-called Religions are not from the Natural Order of things, they are what mostly the Indo-Europians have been given by Afrika to govern them for less than 6,000 years, and mostly should be obvious to the wise and those who know. In other words, all of the so-called Major World Religions are in the Control of Powerful Europians,..."The so-called Afrikan has from Creation the Natural Order of Things called Spirituality and more commonly called Ancient Mystries today".
Before contact (Pre-Historic) with the Indo-Europian types, the Origenal Man did not need what is called Religion or Croud Control systems, this is a relitively "New" invention to Civilize the Uncivilized Indo-Europians, Cacaisan types who needed to have High Prist, Shamin or Prophets sent to them "From" the Mystries Schools or Lodges in KMT, to give them a form of croud control system from the Origenal Spirituality or Mystries that could be used to govern them for a time. That time is up.
History is,...say for the lack of better western words: Writtin every 25 thousand years by the High Prist or Elders who are alluded to in so-called scripts or scriptures. The coming events will make it clear to those who are seeking the light and catistropic to those who don't know. The best thing for the present day so-called black man and black woman, who are the direct descendants of the Origenal People of the Earth,...to do is to empty out "All" of the so-called "Religions of this world", because "None" of them were "Made" for "You", but was "Made" and given to the (Indo-Europian) one whos "Time" is "Over", and "Your" time has just begun. Spirituality is not Religion, the "Records" kept by the High Prist in KMT are observations of un-spoiled, Absolute Self-Determening so-called Afrikans whos "Harmonious" Natural Way of Life or KMT teashings, Ancient Mystries and Afrikan Spirituality is the method used to "Construct" all that is Kemet or commonly called Egypt today.
You did it Black Man and Black Woman, but not with any so-call Re-ligion that are all limited to only 33 degrees. The Natural Order that your Ancient Ancestors internalized in their Souls is 360 Degrees, it can't be done any other way, it is Impossible and put away as a "Secret" for "You" to find today. Note: The keys to those secrets are locked away in "Your Genitic Bank", the answers are with-in your Universe.
From birth to the end that is only the begining of a new life, we are to seek the light, there is "No" end to it, "We" are never done Becoming.
People Know Thy Self

Ase`

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Now that more of you have the book and are able to discuss it I thought I'd bring this up again.

Hi all,

Where does the author of the Metu Neter claim to have gotten his information from?
Please give page number that reveals this information?
If it is from some African tribes of today please name that or those tribes.

Thanks

We will remain on topic. The questions that I asked were specifically designed to help us do just that. Please do not be discouraged from participatin by the presence of the sehu.

We will remain on topic. The questions that I asked were specifically designed to help us do just that. Please do not be discouraged from participatin by the presence of the sehu.

Not at all.

Perhaps you might want to re-spark the last pertinent question asked, Sheqheti?

HOTEPET

Where does the author of the Metu Neter claim to have gotten his information from?

Auset......i think

Auset......i think
Isis? Is that in chapter 1?

5. What are your initial feelings or conceptions about trance? Ancestors?

My initial feelings were that trance was not accessible to me because of all the distractive (is that a word? Oh welk, it is now) thoughts flowing through my mline all the time. I read about people having spooky experiences but felt that I could not let go of control enough to experience true trance.

Samurai has taught me that it doesn't come right waway and I should not let my initial failings discourage me. So I continue to practice it. Hopefully, one day soon I will have a trainer to help me.

As for ancestors I have had to detox from the fear the church has taught me to have about such things. I just consciously refuse to be afraid then the peace settles down into my subconscious and the feeling of fear dissipates.

5. What are your initial feelings or conceptions about trance? Ancestors?

What is “Trance” from the Metu Neter point of view from Chapter 1?

River,

I don’t mean to be negative but you are going about conducting a book discussion in the wrong way. Asking specific questions is not the way to debate or explore a book, it is high schoolish because by asking the questions you have already directed the direction, you can’t learn from something you can simply lookup.

The best way to do this would have been to ask your audience to re-read chapter one to “The Hemispheres of the Brain” then ask them to give their opinion. In this you would only be dealing with about 9 pages where the author makes some strong suggestions as to the collapse of civilization. To me this would be a very good place to began getting opinions of thought as to what the author reveals and allows one to be more expressive but yet focused on 9 pages. After that then do the same thing with chapter 1 starting from “The Hemispheres of the Brain” to “A Brief definition of religion”.

This allows your participants to break it down into more detail as to what the author truly reveals. One of our main problems is we think we are superman or superwoman and try to take in too much information at once.

Just a suggestion.:book:

Just a suggestion.:book:
in the past you have vented intense criticism of the metu neter.
you have proven that you do not respect the work.
why would anyone want to hear your views or take your suggestions?

In the past you have vented intense criticism of the Old Testament.
you have proven that you don’t respect the work.
But, I continue to want to hear your suggestions, ideas and points of views so that I can continue learning from you.

OOoooh but wait, hold up, the author of the Metu Neter suggests that learning from others, reading books and scripture is the wrong way to perceive self awareness.

But yet I had to read his book and learn that bit of information from him.

What a conundrum?
I’m so confused?

The guy wants me to read his book but then tells me in the first chapter in the Introduction that reading books and scripture to discover self is wrong.

The guy has something he wants to teach me but then tells me listening to preachers to discover self is wrong.

See how much we need to focus on first in just those 9 little pages? The author is laying down his foundation and reasoning in chapter 1. If you miss what he expresses in chapter one you might as well put the book down.

I personally don’t turn people or books away just because I have a different point of view. This is one of the MAIN problems with black people getting together. If all of this was in person and all of us where talking face to face I bet the police and life squad would already have to be on the seen trying to save someone’s life from gunshot wounds.
One of the first signs of Self Awareness is anger control.

Are you sure the Metu Neter is working for you?

in the past you have vented intense criticism of the metu neter.
you have proven that you do not respect the work.
why would anyone want to hear your views or take your suggestions?

Brother Elder, is something going to be done about this disruption?

None of this is relevant to THIS topic. There are plenty of other threads (most of which he himself has created), in which he can speak ridiculously about a book, premise, notion, and system that he has clearly not even fully read, nor does he understand, nor does he want to.

HOTEP

5. What are your initial feelings or conceptions about trance? Ancestors?

My initial feelings were that trance was not accessible to me because of all the distractive (is that a word? Oh welk, it is now) thoughts flowing through my mline all the time. I read about people having spooky experiences but felt that I could not let go of control enough to experience true trance.

The DISTRACTIVE (http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/distractive.html) thoughts, feelings, etc are never going to go away. Never. The human body acts as the Spirit's antenna, just like a radio. An antenna is always attractive signals.

The key if you want to do away with the signals, is to shut off the radio temporarily.

Samurai has taught me that it doesn't come right waway and I should not let my initial failings discourage me. So I continue to practice it. Hopefully, one day soon I will have a trainer to help me.

It's not easy, but you are more in-tune than you think that you are. You have the raw ability (most Black women do, which is why they make such good ASHETI's and SEBAHETI's). The key is to refine this gift; harnessing it doesn't seem to be a problem.

But I do agree, that you will fare so much better, with having people in your immediate vicinity who can assist you.

As for ancestors I have had to detox from the fear the church has taught me to have about such things. I just consciously refuse to be afraid then the peace settles down into my subconscious and the feeling of fear dissipates.

Fear is the main enemy of man's Spiritual ascension. It's a natural Sahu inclination to fear that which is not fully understood. The key is to know that understanding comes with fear is destroyed.

That is the science behind the allegory of SHU and TEFNUT (as discussed in Volume 2 of Metu Neter).

HOTEPET.

River,

I don’t mean to be negative but you are going about conducting a book discussion in the wrong way. Asking specific questions is not the way to debate or explore a book, it is high schoolish because by asking the questions you have already directed the direction, you can’t learn from something you can simply lookup.

The best way to do this would have been to ask your audience to re-read chapter one to “The Hemispheres of the Brain” then ask them to give their opinion. In this you would only be dealing with about 9 pages where the author makes some strong suggestions as to the collapse of civilization. To me this would be a very good place to began getting opinions of thought as to what the author reveals and allows one to be more expressive but yet focused on 9 pages. After that then do the same thing with chapter 1 starting from “The Hemispheres of the Brain” to “A Brief definition of religion”.

This allows your participants to break it down into more detail as to what the author truly reveals. One of our main problems is we think we are superman or superwoman and try to take in too much information at once.

Just a suggestion.:book:


These things are set-up where they are the only one who has the answer to [ Their Guestion ]. This way they will judge who right and who wrong . If they truely have the knowldge as the clam , Why don't they share it without all these head games . meaning their laws their rules . It call control .

Brother Elder, is something going to be done about this disruption?


as a premium member you can now put people on your ignore list.

These things are set-up where they are the only one who has the answer to [ Their Guestion ]. This way they will judge who right and who wrong . If they truely have the knowldge as the clam , Why don't they share it without all these head games . meaning their laws their rules . It call control .
this thread is an attempt to discuss the metu neter.
it is a book discussion.

if you want to critique the book, please set up your own thread else where.

In the past you have vented intense criticism of the Old Testament.
you have proven that you don’t respect the work.
But, I continue to want to hear your suggestions, ideas and points of views so that I can continue learning from you.

OOoooh but wait, hold up, the author of the Metu Neter suggests that learning from others, reading books and scripture is the wrong way to perceive self awareness.

But yet I had to read his book and learn that bit of information from him.

What a conundrum?
I’m so confused?

The guy wants me to read his book but then tells me in the first chapter in the Introduction that reading books and scripture to discover self is wrong.

The guy has something he wants to teach me but then tells me listening to preachers to discover self is wrong.

See how much we need to focus on first in just those 9 little pages? The author is laying down his foundation and reasoning in chapter 1. If you miss what he expresses in chapter one you might as well put the book down.

I personally don’t turn people or books away just because I have a different point of view. This is one of the MAIN problems with black people getting together. If all of this was in person and all of us where talking face to face I bet the police and life squad would already have to be on the seen trying to save someone’s life from gunshot wounds.
One of the first signs of Self Awareness is anger control.

Are you sure the Metu Neter is working for you?
please exit this thread.
this is a book discussion for those who follow the word.
set up your criticism some where else please.

If you are not ready to confidently discus your book and religion with others then you need to stop having discussions on a PUBLIC discussion board. But you will not do that because you use the public to promote and draw other unbeknownst souls into the game.

Now, lets stop this foolishness and let us descuse the Metu Neter because as the Thread is titled Metu Neter Book Descussion - Chapter One , it says nothing about having to be a person that follows the Metu Neter.

How are you just going to step in Rivers thread and rename it or make guidelines for who and who can not speak or make suggestions?

If you are not ready to confidently discus your book and religion with others then you need to stop having discussions on a PUBLIC discussion board. But you will not do that because you use the public to promote and draw other unbeknownst souls into the game.

Now, lets stop this foolishness and let us descuse the Metu Neter because as the Thread is titled Metu Neter Book Descussion - Chapter One , it says nothing about having to be a person that follows the Metu Neter.

How are you just going to step in Rivers thread and rename it or make guidelines for who and who can not speak or make suggestions?
i ask you again, please exit this thread.

The DISTRACTIVE (http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/distractive.html) thoughts, feelings, etc are never going to go away. Never. The human body acts as the Spirit's antenna, just like a radio. An antenna is always attractive signals.

The key if you want to do away with the signals, is to shut off the radio temporarily.
"Shut off the radio?" How? Even when I am asleep I have at least three vivid dreams a night with stereophonic surround sound in full RGB color.

Amen differentiates between mediumistic and waking trance but I am still not sure I understand. I suspect that I have experienced both without realizing it/ He says we can learn to do it at will so the ones I do without knowing it don't count--they just prove that I can do it. [QUOTE]It's not easy, but you are more in-tune than you think that you are. You have the raw ability (most Black women do, which is why they make such good ASHETI's and SEBAHETI's). The key is to refine this gift; harnessing it doesn't seem to be a problem.

But I do agree, that you will fare so much better, with having people in your immediate vicinity who can assist you.I am out of here as soon as it is feasible. I have read that the priestesses of Ifa can draw out a person's inner conflicts just by dancing in their presence. I wasnt to be in an environment where the powers of the spirit are in full operation.Fear is the main enemy of man's Spiritual ascension. It's a natural Sahu inclination to fear that which is not fully understood. The key is to know that understanding comes with fear is destroyed.

That is the science behind the allegory of SHU and TEFNUT (as discussed in Volume 2 of Metu Neter).

HOTEPET.
And we will get to volume 2. Hey, stay tuned. I have an idea for a new thread.

Is this the God ( metu neter ) of A.T.R. member here , Do you worship him ?
How have the ( metu neter ) help you . Do you pray to him like the christian do Jesus ? If not what the diffrent between the two .

Did this ( metu neter ) Write the A.T.R. holy Book .
Did it have chapter and verse .
What made ( metu neter ) writeing holy-er then the by - bill .
How many ( metu neter ) are they .

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But yet I had to read his book and learn that bit of information from him.

What a conundrum?
I’m so confused?
It is not wrong,it is simply not enough.