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Metu Neter Book Discussion

karmashines
09-11-2005, 12:59 AM
For those interested in learning about Kemetician theology, if you would like Destee to feature a book discussion on Metu Neter, please check out this poll.

http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?p=359222#post359222

jamesfrmphilly
09-11-2005, 01:10 AM
shouldn't you read it first before you set up a discussion?
how would it work? logistically?

I'm not sure if this matériel is supposed to be "discussed", it ain't Oprah.

karmashines
09-11-2005, 01:19 AM
shouldn't you read it first before you set up a discussion?
how would it work? logistically?

I'm not sure if this matériel is supposed to be "discussed", it ain't Oprah.

Most book discussions would discuss the book chapter by chapter, which is how I would think one could go about discussing this.

If the Bible, a religious work, is discussed, why can't this be? Or does that go against the philosphy? If it does then this is a moot issue.

But to answer your question, no, I haven't read it... I am ordering the book next week when I can deposit my money and will read it as soon as it's delivered to my door. If the book is that complex, I would like to be able to get help with the interpretations from those experienced with Kemetician theology WHILE I am reading it.

I also hope that maybe if people participated in such a discussion, that more could see that there is life beyond a religious mindset.

jamesfrmphilly
09-11-2005, 11:04 AM
from what i am getting, the work is spiritual rather than religious.
i don't do religion and i barely tolerate spiritual.
i also think that kemetians are reluctant to share information.
some kind of secret society stuff.

i don't know why as i haven't read that far yet. :read:

karmashines
09-11-2005, 11:23 AM
from what i am getting, the work is spiritual rather than religious.
i don't do religion and i barely tolerate spiritual.
i also think that kemetians are reluctant to share information.
some kind of secret society stuff.

i don't know why as i haven't read that far yet. :read:

Hmm... well, if not sharing the information is part of the philsophy then there cannot be a book discussion on it. Perhaps the intent in this would be to ensure that the person would use the information to embark on their own unique spiritual journey? If this is the reasoning, I guess I can understand that... but I don't know as I haven't read it yet either. Maybe the Kemeticians on the board can give more insight.

But anyway, and this is off the topic a little bit, but I think its commendable you are steping out of the comfort zone of your beliefs and exploring other religious paths. I would also say this to river too, who seems to be making an incredible spiritual transformation right before this community's eyes. The spirituality section of this board has encouraged a lot of growth, and is one of my favorite sections here on Destee.

Sekhemu
09-11-2005, 01:18 PM
Hmm... well, if not sharing the information is part of the philsophy then there cannot be a book discussion on it. Perhaps the intent in this would be to ensure that the person would use the information to embark on their own unique spiritual journey? If this is the reasoning, I guess I can understand that... but I don't know as I haven't read it yet either. Maybe the Kemeticians on the board can give more insight.

But anyway, and this is off the topic a little bit, but I think its commendable you are steping out of the comfort zone of your beliefs and exploring other religious paths. I would also say this to river too, who seems to be making an incredible spiritual transformation right before this community's eyes. The spirituality section of this board has encouraged a lot of growth, and is one of my favorite sections here on Destee.


Read the first volume and many of the "maybes" will probably be answered. :bball:

jamesfrmphilly
09-11-2005, 01:30 PM
Read the first volume and many of the "maybes" will probably be answered. :bball:
see what i mean? always cryptic.

Sekhemu
09-11-2005, 03:07 PM
see what i mean? always cryptic.


Not at all, somethings are better answered by learning on your own.

river
09-11-2005, 10:45 PM
Hmm... well, if not sharing the information is part of the philsophy then there cannot be a book discussion on it. Perhaps the intent in this would be to ensure that the person would use the information to embark on their own unique spiritual journey? If this is the reasoning, I guess I can understand that... but I don't know as I haven't read it yet either. Maybe the Kemeticians on the board can give more insight.

But anyway, and this is off the topic a little bit, but I think its commendable you are steping out of the comfort zone of your beliefs and exploring other religious paths. I would also say this to river too, who seems to be making an incredible spiritual transformation right before this community's eyes. The spirituality section of this board has encouraged a lot of growth, and is one of my favorite sections here on Destee.
Karma and James,

You guys can relax. Think about it--if it was that much a secret why would they write a book about it and puit it on Amazon.com for god's sake?

The author writes in plain English that is very understandable. When he does use words in a special way he explains exactly how he will use them in the book.

I haven't gotten to the spooky part yet but I'm sure even if there is a spooky part it will be in just as clear language as at the beginning.

What's that?
Some book. S'posed to be good for you.
You read it?
I'm not gonna read it. You read it
I'm not gonna read it.
Hey lets get River
Naw she won't read it. She hates everything
Hey River! She likes it

Just read the book y'all

SAMURAI36
09-12-2005, 11:59 AM
I would agree that at leat owning and having read some of the book should definitely serve as a prerequisite to starting and participating in such a discussion such as this.

Some aspects of METU NETER will be made self-explanatory after some reading investment has been made, and some won't.

For the aspects that won't, that's when such a discussion would be ideal.

However, to ask questions about a body of material with which you are not even remotely familiar, is an exercise in futility.

It's akin to asking for someone to hold a discussion on a book about NUCLEAR PHYSICS; there is a host of info that must be covered, in order for any and everyone to be expected to sufficiently follow along.

That is how misinformation is spread, and very well has been the case in the past, lest we would not be combating the foolish notion that "EGYPT is evil and/or pagan" .


*********

Kemetic Theology is not a secret society, nor is it intentionally presented as such. It is free for all who seek it, but the caution is made simultaneously, that you take this material, and the practices therein, with the utmost reverance.

Just because a 12-GAUGE SHOTGUN can be purchased at WAL-MART, doesn't mean that it's intended for everybody, or for everyday casual usage.

PEACE

jamesfrmphilly
09-12-2005, 01:02 PM
the sisters over at afrochat immediately desired to form up a group and read it together.
the are forming the group before some have even got the book.
apparently, once formed into a group, sisters can do anything.

i read by myself before bed.
that's when it is quiet.

i can't imagine reading in a group.

river
09-12-2005, 02:33 PM
the sisters over at afrochat immediately desired to form up a group and read it together.
the are forming the group before some have even got the book.
apparently, once formed into a group, sisters can do anything.

i read by myself before bed.
that's when it is quiet.

i can't imagine reading in a group.
I can't either. But I think the idea here at Destees will be for each of us to do our own reading then when we come together discuss what we have read and ask questions we may have.

You can ask someone what something tastes like but you can't ask them to eat for you and you can not expect to get the full benefit of understanding a book by asking someone to tell you what's in it.

river
09-12-2005, 02:46 PM
I would agree that at leat owning and having read some of the book should definitely serve as a prerequisite to starting and participating in such a discussion such as this.

Some aspects of METU NETER will be made self-explanatory after some reading investment has been made, and some won't.

For the aspects that won't, that's when such a discussion would be ideal.

However, to ask questions about a body of material with which you are not even remotely familiar, is an exercise in futility.

It's akin to asking for someone to hold a discussion on a book about NUCLEAR PHYSICS; there is a host of info that must be covered, in order for any and everyone to be expected to sufficiently follow along.

That is how misinformation is spread, and very well has been the case in the past, lest we would not be combating the foolish notion that "EGYPT is evil and/or pagan" .


*********

Kemetic Theology is not a secret society, nor is it intentionally presented as such. It is free for all who seek it, but the caution is made simultaneously, that you take this material, and the practices therein, with the utmost reverance.

Just because a 12-GAUGE SHOTGUN can be purchased at WAL-MART, doesn't mean that it's intended for everybody, or for everyday casual usage.

PEACE
You are so right, Sheqhem. It is not for everyone and different people will read it for different reasons. Still I would encourage anyone who sincerely wants to know their true spiritual heritage as a Black person to read this book.

SUN OF RA
09-12-2005, 04:51 PM
I think they key phrase in the initial post is "For those interested in learning about Kemetician theology". Surely, I don't think anyone is suggesting or trying to force those of other religious backgrounds and beliefs to come in and discuss the science of the Kamau. If one wants to take part in the discussion, it should be of their own free will.

I honestly feel that before one embarks upon the spiritual science of the Kamau, one should read and study about ancient/traditional Afurakani/Afuraitkaitnit (African) culture. For one to jump into a discussion without any prior knowledge or history of the culture (which is foreign to them) will not help them understand the concept behind the practices. It will be like trying to drive a car when the only thing you're used to is riding a bicycle. As the saying goes, you must crawl before you can walk. :baby:

Most of the time, we make the mistake of 'crawling' into something we do not understand while fooling ourselves and others that we do.

In other words, before you step into the realm of the 'unknown' (in this case, the 'Metu Neter'), do some research on ancient Kamit and try to gain an understanding of our ancient culture, the traditions, the cultural practices, the deities, the myths, the religion, etc. Once you gain that insight, reading the Metu Neter and comprehending it will become much easier than not having an understanding of the Afurakani/Afuraitkainit (African) culture.


Just my $0.02.............

:bullseye:



Htp.u

jamesfrmphilly
09-12-2005, 08:53 PM
Once you gain that insight, reading the Metu Neter and comprehending it will become much easier than not having an understanding of the Afurakani/Afuraitkainit (African) culture.

flip that. by reading, you will have a better understanding of the African culture.
chapter eight............. :read:

SAMURAI36
09-12-2005, 08:59 PM
flip that. by reading, you will have a better understanding of the African culture.
chapter eight............. :read:

Hmmm, the Brother Elder's been reading.

river
09-12-2005, 10:28 PM
Hmmm, the Brother Elder's been reading.
:lol:
I'm going to enjoy this

SUN OF RA
09-13-2005, 12:02 PM
flip that. by reading, you will have a better understanding of the African culture.
chapter eight............. :read:

Good point, brother James and thanks. But reading alone will only take you so far. You have to 'live' (experience) the culture in order to truly understand it. That is the theme behind the 'Metu Neter'. True knowledge is based on 'experience', not what you read. When you read, all you are doing is taking in information. By the time you finish reading, you will have forgotten 80-90% of what you've read.

Even Ra Un Nefer Amen states that his books are not meant to be read. The principles are meant to be put into practice in order to experience them.


:geek:


Htp.u

jamesfrmphilly
09-13-2005, 01:21 PM
Good point, brother James and thanks. But reading alone will only take you so far. You have to 'live' (experience) the culture in order to truly understand it. That is the theme behind the 'Metu Neter'. True knowledge is based on 'experience', not what you read. When you read, all you are doing is taking in information. By the time you finish reading, you will have forgotten 80-90% of what you've read.

Even Ra Un Nefer Amen states that his books are not meant to be read. The principles are meant to be put into practice in order to experience them.


:geek:


Htp.u
Peace God

i am assuming that anyone in possession of the book will be already familiar with the African culture. i been around the culture most of my life.
even if they are not, if they have an open mind, i think it will be OK.

hotep

i'm on chapter nine........ :read:

SAMURAI36
09-13-2005, 01:44 PM
WHAT??? Chapter 9, and no Q's as of yet?

PEACE

jamesfrmphilly
09-13-2005, 01:51 PM
WHAT??? Chapter 9, and no Q's as of yet?

PEACE
well, i definitely do not like the part about evolving beyond my sensual pleasures. i almost stopped reading.
i been a sensualist all my life.

when i get to Ab or ba level can i still make late night booty calls?

SAMURAI36
09-13-2005, 02:07 PM
well, i definitely do not like the part about evolving beyond my sensual pleasures. i almost stopped reading.
i been a sensualist all my life.

when i get to Ab or ba level can i still make late night booty calls?

Please understand, it's not about the suppression of sensuality, but rather the reconciliation and harmonizing of it into balance with the rest of your growth and developement.

This ties into the "TOO SPIRITUAL" thread as well.

Thus, not only will you not be losing out on pleasure, but you'll be gaining a greater appreciation for it.

PEACE

jamesfrmphilly
09-16-2005, 02:32 AM
so where is my friendly neighborhood teacher?
can i initiate my own self?

i may be one of those knuckleheads who is not a good candidate (p139)
what's the quick test for that?

should i quit reading now?

SAMURAI36
09-16-2005, 09:48 AM
so where is my friendly neighborhood teacher?

You are blessed by living in a large city; down here, spiritual resources are scarce.

The Philly Chapter rivals the one in NY, and even Africa.

I will get my Rolodex out this evening, and send you some info of who to contact. Stay tuned for that.


can i initiate my own self?

As this stage of your development, no. You have been far too detached from the realm of the Ethereal to take such self-liberties. And reading this book, as profound as it is, is not merely enough. Even AMEN states as much periodically throughout the book.

But trust, you are indeed on the right track. And please know, you do NOT have to join the SOCIETY in order to become spiritually initiated. I have danced on the peripheral of the SOCIETY for years, and have reaped the benefits of both autonomy and affiliation.

i may be one of those knuckleheads who is not a good candidate (p139)

Far from it. You are a Scorpio, and we are more spiritually inclined than any other sign in the Zodiac. Not to mention, you have been wearing spiritual symbology for a while now, even without fully knowing their divine meanings, and how they affect you.

It's just to bad that you've waited so long in this metacognitive phase of this liftetime, to start cultivating your spiritual development....... :(

Oh, well; as they say: "No time like the present!!" :D

should i quit reading now?

Why on earth would you want to do that? You should only quit if the material within the book somehow disagrees with your Spirit.

Is that the case?

what's the quick test for that?

You mean, aside from what I just stated?

You will need to get an Incarnation Objective reading from one of the Sages (preferably a woman). But that will come as soon as I put you in touch with the right people.

In the meantime, as the Kemau used to say:

"May your Spirit rise as the Sun at Midday; Today as Yesterday, Tomorrow as Today".

SHEM HOTEPU

jamesfrmphilly
09-16-2005, 11:51 AM
will anyone do anything bad to me?
my local voodum priest said the Kemtians were dangerous.
he prefers to keep a safe distance.

is there a downside?

SAMURAI36
09-16-2005, 12:01 PM
will anyone do anything bad to me?

Nope.

my local voodum priest said the Kemtians were dangerous.

Funny; I've heard the Kemetians (and others) say the same thing about the Voduns.

The sad thing is, it's all the same teachings, just slightly different variations.

Don't we have enough disunity in our community as it is? Can't we all just get along? :confused:

he prefers to keep a safe distance.

I'm sure you've heard the notorious reputations that the VODUN have. Who's to say that it's correct?

Incidently, does he give specific reasons as to what his grievances are with Kemetians?

is there a downside?

Outside of the fact that you may be asked to join? Nothing really.

Please know, that you can learn all of this stuff by yourself.

Perhaps, at this point, I would suggest that you do the following:

#1) Finish the book, at the very least. Nothing defeats a person faster, than being half-informed.

#2) See of you can incorporate the more "practical" aspects of the culture into your everyday life. Then, at the very least you can say that you separated the wheat from the chaff, and used what was/is beneficial to you, and discard the rest.

#3) Ask questions, both here, and with others that you meet. Compare notes. Take what I've said here, and match it against what others that you will potentially meet, and see if it adds up. If not, take it back to the person you got it from, and drill them with Q's. If they are sincere, they should be willing and able to withstand the inquisition.

#4) Look for the proof to be in th pudding. What I like about Neterian Theology, is that it DOES NOT take alot for it to manifest itself as Truth, unlike Islam, which I struggled to make fit for me, during my entire duration of that particular Journey.

The more in-tune you become the more your Soul will tell you what's right, and what's need for its growth.......Just the same as, once you get your body in tip-top shape, it will instantly respond one way or another to what you put into it.

PEACE

jamesfrmphilly
09-16-2005, 12:21 PM
OK, i'll finish reading.

SAMURAI36
09-16-2005, 12:51 PM
Oops!! I had to make an edit......Please re-read #4 of my previous post.

karmashines
09-16-2005, 01:28 PM
This is so exciting. I just ordered the book today... I'll revisit this topic after I read some of the chapters. :)

jamesfrmphilly
09-19-2005, 12:35 PM
the average person is not going to make it through all those initiation steps.
i know i couldn't.

Sekhemu
09-19-2005, 12:37 PM
the average person is not going to make it through all those initiation steps.
i know i couldn't.


who ever said it was for the average person?

jamesfrmphilly
09-19-2005, 12:42 PM
who ever said it was for the average person?
so you end up with a group of "above average" and the rest of us. now you have a class system.
next thing you know, you got separate bathrooms.

if the average person cannot do it, what's the point?

Sekhemu
09-19-2005, 01:37 PM
so you end up with a group of "above average" and the rest of us. now you have a class system.
next thing you know, you got separate bathrooms.

if the average person cannot do it, what's the point?


That's a terrible over-simplification brotha. The average person doesn't become a become a medicine man/woman either, does that automatically make the societies they live in one based on class?

There is nothing wrong with having secret/sacred societies, for example, rites of passage for boy and girls. Where would the youth of these respective cultures be without a carefully cadre of initiated brothas and sistahs to guide them?

karmashines
09-19-2005, 01:49 PM
so you end up with a group of "above average" and the rest of us. now you have a class system.
next thing you know, you got separate bathrooms.

if the average person cannot do it, what's the point?

Well most 'average' people want something easy and simple... something that can be spoonfed to them without much intellectual effort on their part. This is one of the reasons it's so easy to manipulate the 'average' person with traditional religion.

SAMURAI36
09-19-2005, 02:03 PM
Brother Elder, I agree with the past couple of posts, by our Brother and Sister Sek and Karma.

The classist ("separate bathroom") mentality that you speak of is western in origin and practice.

As SEK stated, initiation should not--and majorly does not create such a mentality. Were that the case, then Ancient Kemet would not have been the place that it was (even though it was far from perfect, mind you).

A true spiritual person understands the balance between him/herself and all other things within exsistence.

A person that is called a SAGE is one that has had to earn that title. It's a privilege, not a right.

And you are far more capable of (sur)passing Initiation, than you think you are.

The sad, yet beautiful reality, is that most people are capable of it as well, they just don't realize it.

PEACE

jamesfrmphilly
09-19-2005, 03:13 PM
in a structure such as you describe, all you have to do is cut off the head.
or, as in Christianity, co opt the head and the rest will follow.
i believe that for the system to be effective anyone on the street needs to be able to step up and make it work.

when you kill a leader there needs to be many others to step into his place. this will protect the leader by making it pointless to kill him.

the "lowest" member of society needs to have their own internal moral code.
otherwise you get new orleans, when the authority was absent the evil began.

SAMURAI36
09-19-2005, 03:25 PM
in a structure such as you describe, all you have to do is cut off the head.
or, as in Christianity, co opt the head and the rest will follow.
i believe that for the system to be effective anyone on the street needs to be able to step up and make it work.

when you kill a leader there needs to be many others to step into his place. this will protect the leader by making it pointless to kill him.

the "lowest" member of society needs to have their own internal moral code.
otherwise you get new orleans, when the authority was absent the evil began.

True indeed, and Kemetic Theology has this and more.

If/when you get your hands on vol #2, which is entitled "ANUK AUSAR" (meaning "I AM AUSAR") you'll see that Kemetic (and African proper) spirituality is not about adorning and needlessly praising the leader of the time, because we all have the potential to sit in that seat.

This is where Islam (which was supposed to save Blacks, but never quite reached the mark) fails us, and Christianity fails us miserably.

The "Chosen One" (MESSIAH, MAHDI, MITHRAS, etc) is not, nor never has been or never will be some exclusive position that only one person can and has filled.

In African theology, Priest/esses, Kings/Queens, ancestors (which all of the above will eventually become) are certainly respected, but not worshipped as they are in the Judeo-Christian-Islamic way.

I have the ability to become just as great as RA UN NEFER AMEN is, and even he repeatedly declares as much. He is not better than me, nor I than him. He has simply reached a plane of spirituality that I haven't yet. There are those, past and present, and undoubtedly future, who have surpassed him in their own personal development.

This applies to all of us.

HOTEP

river
09-19-2005, 09:37 PM
I can understand why we might not want to popularize Kemetic spirituality. whenever something becomes popular somebody will try to make money off of it. There is a saying if you want to hang a capitalist he'll sell you the rope. If people like it capitalist will sieze the market. But in order to make money off Kemetic spirituality they'd have to twist it around so badly it will look like the "love child" of Judeo/christianity. Just look at that Kemetic Orthodoxy cult led by that woman who has to put on her belt with a boomerang. I mean the kids at the beach run around her screaming "FREE WILLIE! FREE WILLIE!" She quitre obviosly is not underfed.

Like brotha Sam said it is accessible to the man on the street for the man on the street has all the potential to become a sage but it will only be realized by those who want it. Seek and ye shall find--don't seek and ye shall not find.

jamesfrmphilly
09-20-2005, 01:57 AM
it is important for the average man to have a correct moral base.
this is to prevent evil from breaking out whenever there is an absence of outside authority.
there must be internal morality.

morality should never be a restricted or secret thing, just the opposite.
if these principles promote correct and proper morality it is essential that they be made available to the general public.

the "lowest of the low" are those that need it the most.

karmashines
09-20-2005, 03:08 AM
it is important for the average man to have a correct moral base.
this is to prevent evil from breaking out whenever there is an absence of outside authority.
there must be internal morality.

morality should never be a restricted or secret thing, just the opposite.
if these principles promote correct and proper morality it is essential that they be made available to the general public.

the "lowest of the low" are those that need it the most.

Spirituality does not and cannot teach morality. In fact, spirituality can be used for evil purposes.

True morality comes from within the soul and is already within every person. People commit immoral acts because they have detached themselves from the guilt they would have normally had. Psychological problems play a big factor in this, particularly in sins which are extremely immoral. Often times people who victimize have psychological problems from having once been victimized themselves, whether it's through parental abuse or neglect, or abuse from another authority, such as the prison system. This is not an excuse, just an explanation for why some people go through violent psychopathic rages killing and/or raping when no one is watching (such as the Katrina diaster).

Sekhemu
09-20-2005, 09:21 AM
it is important for the average man to have a correct moral base.
this is to prevent evil from breaking out whenever there is an absence of outside authority.
there must be internal morality.

morality should never be a restricted or secret thing, just the opposite.
if these principles promote correct and proper morality it is essential that they be made available to the general public.

the "lowest of the low" are those that need it the most.

it is important for the average man to have a correct moral base This is true, and as sistah Karma alluded to, morality and spirituality are two different things.

Morality is usually taught in the home, and in the case of traditional african culture, there is the rites of passage.

There are different degrees of spirituality and most if not all are aquired by hard work and sacrifice. Secrecy has more to do with what is sacred, and as such a keen eye of discretion and discernment is key to insure potential abuse and misuse of "power" on the part of would be initiates.

jamesfrmphilly
09-20-2005, 04:41 PM
i went up and checked out the ausar auset society in philly.
no one harmed me while i was on the premises.

the hour bus ride is no joke though.

i'll take a meditation class and get a reading.

SAMURAI36
09-21-2005, 10:21 AM
i went up and checked out the ausar auset society in philly.
no one harmed me while i was on the premises.



i'll take a meditation class and get a reading.

LOL, good to hear that you weren't harmed, Brother Elder.

Tell us more about your experience, though. How were the people? Were the friendly/helpful towards you? Who specifically did you meet?

the hour bus ride is no joke though.

Just use the time to read more. That's what I always do. :fyi:



PEACE

jamesfrmphilly
09-21-2005, 12:52 PM
LOL, good to hear that you weren't harmed, Brother Elder.

Tell us more about your experience, though. How were the people? Were the friendly/helpful towards you? Who specifically did you meet?

Just use the time to read more. That's what I always do. :fyi:

PEACE
when you ride public transit as i do, you meet the true salt of the earth.
the bus ride is fatiguing due to the people who you are on there with.
every form of ignorance is on display.
then the bus blew a fan belt so we had to wait for another one to come.

by the time i got to the society i was totally run down.
i had to sit and have a juice and recover.

they have a restaurant and bookstore.
the food smelled so good and refreshing.
the sisters were very beautiful.
the one serving was exactly the type i would love to get my hands on.

they had all the books and discs that one would need and they have a program of classes.
the clerk tried to hook me up for a reading but could not locate the priest.

the only problem was that there were only a few people there.
in philly you have 99% unconscious negroes and only 1% trying to be cultural.
the vibe was so positive you would think they would be lined up to get in.
instead they are lined up to get into the ribs joint and just a few sitting quietly in the ausar auset restaurant.
i have a problem with that.

SAMURAI36
09-21-2005, 02:24 PM
when you ride public transit as i do, you meet the true salt of the earth.
the bus ride is fatiguing due to the people who you are on there with.
every form of ignorance is on display.
then the bus blew a fan belt so we had to wait for another one to come.

by the time i got to the society i was totally run down.
i had to sit and have a juice and recover.

they have a restaurant and bookstore.
the food smelled so good and refreshing.
the sisters were very beautiful.
the one serving was exactly the type i would love to get my hands on.

they had all the books and discs that one would need and they have a program of classes.
the clerk tried to hook me up for a reading but could not locate the priest.

the only problem was that there were only a few people there.
in philly you have 99% unconscious negroes and only 1% trying to be cultural.
the vibe was so positive you would think they would be lined up to get in.
instead they are lined up to get into the ribs joint and just a few sitting quietly in the ausar auset restaurant.
i have a problem with that.

OK, everything you stated here (from the carppy bus ride, to the experience in the Societty) is precisely my experiences as well......I just wanted to hear it through the eyes of someone who has never experienced it before.

Trust me, when you spend time amongst Civilized people for an extended period of time (wait till you decide to go on one of the week-long retreats), and then have to go back to dwell amongst the Savages, it's a severe degree of culture shock.

Regarding the sisters, true indeed, I would love to form something with some of them, but the only issue is that the greater most of them are taken already :bye:

But as I said, the Philly chapter is one of the best of the whole Society, rivaling NYC, CHICAGO and in Africa. You'll definitely be in the best of hands.

When I dwell amongst the society, I cannot help but imagine that this must be what it felt like to dwell amongst our people in ancient Kemet, thousands of years ago.

Keep going, Brother Elder, your experiences will only get better and better.

HOTEP

jamesfrmphilly
09-21-2005, 03:10 PM
When I dwell amongst the society, I cannot help but imagine that this must be what it felt like to dwell amongst our people in ancient Kemet, thousands of years ago.

this is a key point to me.

black people can be very good to each other and for each other.
i have experienced this before in the sixties.
during the struggles we all lived together as family.
this did include sexual relations and everyone got what they needed and was satisfied.
we had group sex and free sex which is unheard of today.
the one thing about that is no one was left out.

i repeat, no one was left out.

we had a beautiful thing going for a minute but the devil was able to move on it and destroy it.
now, there are only a few carrying on the vibe.

so ausar auset is similar to what we had in the sixties only on a much smaller scale.
i have been there before.

karmashines
09-21-2005, 03:19 PM
OK, everything you stated here (from the carppy bus ride, to the experience in the Societty) is precisely my experiences as well......I just wanted to hear it through the eyes of someone who has never experienced it before.

Trust me, when you spend time amongst Civilized people for an extended period of time (wait till you decide to go on one of the week-long retreats), and then have to go back to dwell amongst the Savages, it's a severe degree of culture shock.

Regarding the sisters, true indeed, I would love to form something with some of them, but the only issue is that the greater most of them are taken already :bye:

But as I said, the Philly chapter is one of the best of the whole Society, rivaling NYC, CHICAGO and in Africa. You'll definitely be in the best of hands.

When I dwell amongst the society, I cannot help but imagine that this must be what it felt like to dwell amongst our people in ancient Kemet, thousands of years ago.

Keep going, Brother Elder, your experiences will only get better and better.

HOTEP

Are there any chapters in the D.C./Maryland area?

SAMURAI36
09-21-2005, 03:41 PM
Are there any chapters in the D.C./Maryland area?

Yes, I'll have to ask around, and see if I can get you some info. Stay tuned.....

PEACE

SUN OF RA
09-21-2005, 05:56 PM
Are there any chapters in the D.C./Maryland area?

There is a chapter in the Baltimore branch of the DC region.

http://www.baltimoreaas.com/



Htp.u

karmashines
09-21-2005, 06:21 PM
There is a chapter in the Baltimore branch of the DC region.

http://www.baltimoreaas.com/



Htp.u

Thanks for the info. :)

jamesfrmphilly
09-21-2005, 07:00 PM
how do you pronounce it?

me do na tar?

SAMURAI36
09-21-2005, 07:11 PM
how do you pronounce it?

me do na tar?

"MEET-YOU NEAT-HAIR".

jamesfrmphilly
09-21-2005, 07:27 PM
"MEET-YOU NEAT-HAIR".
where is the accent?

SAMURAI36
09-21-2005, 08:11 PM
where is the accent?

MEET-YOU NEAT-HAIR.

jamesfrmphilly
09-21-2005, 10:02 PM
MEET-YOU NEAT-HAIR.
boy, that's hard to say.
thanks.

Chucky
09-22-2005, 12:33 AM
i went up and checked out the ausar auset society in philly.
no one harmed me while i was on the premises.

the hour bus ride is no joke though.

i'll take a meditation class and get a reading.

Where in Philly?

jamesfrmphilly
09-22-2005, 12:40 AM
Where in Philly?

ausar auset society
6008 germantown ave. (at high st)
phila, pa 19144

215 843 4976

Chucky
09-22-2005, 12:49 AM
^Thanks^

Peace!

river
09-22-2005, 10:19 AM
"MEET-YOU NEAT-HAIR".
Yes when I meet you I hope tyo have neat hair.

Ancient Proverb #362
She who has neat hair will be happy to meet you
But she whose hair is shaped like a helicopter will hide away

SAMURAI36
09-22-2005, 10:49 AM
Yes when I meet you I hope tyo have neat hair.

Ancient Proverb #362
She who has neat hair will be happy to meet you
But she whose hair is shaped like a helicopter will hide away

LMAO!!! :lol:

The helicopter reference; I'd forgotten all about that.

PEACE

jamesfrmphilly
09-22-2005, 12:05 PM
i'm getting that urge again: :kick:

river
09-22-2005, 03:43 PM
i'm getting that urge again: :kick:
And you know that urge is not you (Self) but something over which you have control to decide if carrying out that urge will be to your best interest or not.

This is where you put what you have read to application in your life.

It's good to read quickly the first time to get a basic overview but when you read it the second time you may want to slow down, take notes and think about areas in your life where you can apply stuff.

Chucky
09-23-2005, 12:48 AM
So, when does the actual discussion begin?

Peace

river
09-23-2005, 06:55 PM
So, when does the actual discussion begin?

Peace
When we have more than two students who have actually read the book.

Seriously, We could start by having people explore a question such as which sphere of the Tree of Life do you see most exhibited in your life. or what changes do you think you could make to move toward being an Ausar Man?

These questions make the contents of the book personal so that reading it is more than just an academic exercize or a bunch of stuff to believe in.

Chucky
09-23-2005, 08:41 PM
When we have more than two students who have actually read the book.



For those (outside of the two that have actually read the book) are we going to read together (degree by degree) or wait until all interested have completed the book?

Peace

river
09-23-2005, 09:46 PM
For those (outside of the two that have actually read the book) are we go to read together (degree by degree) or wait until all interested have completed the book?

Peace
Man nobody designated me to lay down the rules for this discussion. But I am a contributer. As an English teacher I can design a reading plan complete with discussion qustions and essay prompts. It will take some time to do because there's suposed to be a tornado coming through here this weekend and Ms Rita is expected to drop some rain on us and blow the lectricity for a few days. But if y'all say "flow River" I will see what I can do.

karmashines
09-23-2005, 09:50 PM
Man nobody designated me to lay down the rules for this discussion. But I am a contributer. As an English teacher I can design a reading plan complete with discussion qustions and essay prompts. It will take some time to do because there's suposed to be a tornado coming through here this weekend and Ms Rita is expected to drop some rain on us and blow the lectricity for a few days. But if y'all say "flow River" I will see what I can do.

I certainly would welcome this. :)

Sekhemu
09-24-2005, 12:18 AM
Flow River!

river
09-24-2005, 03:08 PM
Flow River!
Here are the first questions based on the Author's Preface. Please read the preface before joining the discussions. It would also be helpful if you jot down your ideas beforehand so everyone will have something to bring to the table thus reducing the occurance of "group think." During the discussion you may change your ideas but first have some ideas to change.:D

Your answers should be substantiated by what is in the book. However they can also show your own independent thoughts.


1. Why don't ideas about religion/science constitute a religion/science?
2. Why was the white race so slow/reluctant to acquire the knowledge the Black and oriental races already had?
3. How is reading this book different from going to a museum?

The structure of this discussion is open. You can discuss one question at a time (recommended) or have several going on at once. So that nothing is missed I suggest doing one question st a time then when everyone is satisfied go to the next question.

Thanks for the opportunity to flow!

karmashines
09-24-2005, 03:24 PM
Here are the first questions based on the Author's Preface. Please read the preface before joining the discussions. It would also be helpful if you jot down your ideas beforehand so everyone will have something to bring to the table thus reducing the occurance of "group think." During the discussion you may change your ideas but first have some ideas to change.:D

Your answers should be substantiated by what is in the book. However they can also show your own independent thoughts.


1. Why don't ideas about religion/science constitute a religion/science?
2. Why was the white race so slow/reluctant to acquire the knowledge the Black and oriental races already had?
3. How is reading this book different from going to a museum?

The structure of this discussion is open. You can discuss one question at a time (recommended) or have several going on at once. So that nothing is missed I suggest doing one question st a time then when everyone is satisfied go to the next question.

Thanks for the opportunity to flow!

Would it be easier to start this in a separate thread... like Metu Neter Book Discussion I: Preface?

river
09-24-2005, 04:00 PM
Would it be easier to start this in a separate thread... like Metu Neter Book Discussion I: Preface?
Yes I guess you could have a different thread for each section being discussed. That would be a good idea.

Nisa
09-24-2005, 05:03 PM
Hetepu sister river.

jamesfrmphilly
09-24-2005, 06:08 PM
all this structure is nice.
is this in lew of actually reading the book?

river
09-24-2005, 07:04 PM
Hetepu sister river.
Hey Nisa!

Where you been? What's up, Girl?

river
09-24-2005, 07:11 PM
all this structure is nice.
is this in lew of actually reading the book?
As stated in my post it is more than helpful to read the section we are discussing before joining the discussion--it is a prerequisite. Now if you want to jump ahead and read the whole book that's great.

Nisa
09-24-2005, 07:24 PM
Hey Nisa!

Where you been? What's up, Girl?


On other forums lol...Nothing Much...cooking dinner...if you have yahoo im me at diamondnrough04@yahoo.com email me at the same address

info-moetry
09-24-2005, 07:49 PM
On other forums lol...Nothing Much...cooking dinner...if you have yahoo im me at diamondnrough04@yahoo.com email me at the same address


welcome back Nisa, I have missed your presence....................!

:bowdown:

river
09-24-2005, 09:30 PM
I have been asked and agreed to structure the discussion of this book. Please know that I am acting as a trained (California State University, Los Angeles Teacher Associate) instructor, NOT BY ANY MEANS an expert on the Metu Neter. I can formulate questions and moderate the discussion; however, you guys are the teachers here. Please work with us so that we can get the most out of this.

info-moetry
09-24-2005, 09:53 PM
I have been asked and agreed to structure the discussion of this book. Please know that I am acting as a trained (California State University, Los Angeles Teacher Associate) instructor, NOT BY ANY MEANS an expert on the Metu Neter. I can formulate questions and moderate the discussion; however, you guys are the teachers here. Please work with us so that we can get the most out of this.


peace,

every teacher is a student regardless of the lesson.................

You are doing what you have been called to do............everything happens for a reason and on time!

who better than you to guide this discussion...........It was already written my queen!!

:bowdown:

SAMURAI36
09-26-2005, 09:13 AM
But of course, Sheqheti:

I think it is exceptionally good, and appropo, that a woman will lead these discussions.

Teach away!! You are more than capable.

HOTEPET

Nisa
09-26-2005, 11:16 AM
But of course, Sheqheti:

I think it is exceptionally good, and appropo, that a woman will lead these discussions.

Teach away!! You are more than capable.

HOTEPET
Hotep samurai...

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