View Full Version : Black People : Refugee's or Brothers & Sisters?
AACOOLDRE 09-02-2005, 01:16 PM A refugee is one fleeing for safety in a foreign country. When did New Orleans become a foreign country? Once again, it's the media behind it all. They are residents who are stranded.
Why Fox news keep on calling american citizens refugee's
info-moetry 09-02-2005, 01:52 PM A refugee is one fleeing for safety in a foreign country. When did New Orleans become a foreign country? Once again, it's the media behind it all. They are residents who are stranded.
Why Fox news keep on calling american citizens refugee's
PEACE AC,
this is a mind control tactic used by these demons to make the listener not view the so-called "refugee's" as one of their own. THerefore, support for them is slow to come if at all causing the suffering to intensify!!
- the only one's not suffering in those areas are the media............how dare they talk to starving and suffering people while their own bellies are full and they are clean and refreshed!! The media is in their faces everyday, why have they not brought any food or supplies in with them if only for a few people at a time. It would still help, but that is not what they are there for, they are their soley to divert or mis-direct us as usual to the reality of the whole situation...............
- they have brought the war home to us now knowing that we have been programmed to only think that this could happen abroad to others while we watch places like Bosnia, or the suffering in Afghanistan and Iraq like we were watching a movie............but I've always maintained that what we were seeing abroad would soon be in our backyard!
- what is the TRUE definition of a CITIZEN of the US OF A?? then you will have your answer........
watzinaname 09-02-2005, 07:52 PM I agree Info moetry, this is yet another method of mind control. Constantly talking about these citizens as if they are foreigners, so that the masses will think of them as outsiders even more so than they already do. Shameful.
Destee 09-02-2005, 11:44 PM Oh My Gosh Brother AACOOLDRE !!!!!!!
OH MY GOSH !!!!!
I cannot believe they are referring to Sisters and Brothers as refugees !!!
What the hell is a refugee ??!!! and when exactly did we become one ??!!!
I am just now getting power back, and listening to the news and oh my gosh !!!!
Ohhhhh ... just one of the many travesties i'm seeing on television !!!!
a refugee ??!!!
is this the new N word something ... ???
how long have i been without power ... ???
did yall sign something i don't know about ... and we're now classified as refugees ??!!!
Oh My Gosh !!!!
I hope we here at destee are not the only ones speaking on this!
:heart:
Destee
Moorfius 09-03-2005, 05:54 AM Hotep
The Europians will always think of (YOU) Afrikans as a stranger, because they know the truth about them self and about you, and we are lacking in knowing exactly what is going on, (because they mis-educated us), even when it is shoved in our face, we act surprized. So-called white people know that they and "We" are truely, Refugees fleeing for safety from a foreign country. Did not we see the looks on there faces, unconcerned is a understatment, when it come to Black people suffering. Faith in White folks is nothing less than Devil worship.
Ase`
http://www.actioncdc.org/
Wisdom7 09-03-2005, 02:47 PM Last night on the news they even downgraded from "refugees" and said the people were being loaded on trucks like "HUMAN CARGO." What did they call it when white folks were being loaded previously? I think its all subliminal and they are loving to exploit the image of suffering black people and just had to take it there!
Kamau~ 09-03-2005, 03:04 PM like sadax x said...
yo that's that bullsh_t...
yo that's that bullsh_t...
this whole situation is a total nightmare...
but it's also commonplace for those who were truly aware....
peace
Steve69 09-03-2005, 03:43 PM A refugee is one fleeing for safety in a foreign country. When did New Orleans become a foreign country? Once again, it's the media behind it all. They are residents who are stranded.
Why Fox news keep on calling american citizens refugee's
I think there would be more outrage if they were called just stranded citizens. A stranded citizen would be like if your car broke down on a highway then you are just a stranded citizen. Do you think it is the same as when you see stranded citizens at the airport during bad weather at the holiday season?
The definition I found for refugee is
“One who flees in search of refuge, AS in times of war, political oppression, or religious persecution?”
Come on people, these people are suffering just as much as those in a war zone. And I think the media this time did right by trying to make it as dramatic as possible by calling them refugees white and black. I don’t care for the media in general, but where would we be if they had not called the needed attention to this disaster and kept it on TV.
My problem is that they were just treated as simple stranded citizens instead of refugees that have been thru a disaster or war.
Wisdom7 09-03-2005, 04:20 PM My problem is that they were just treated as simple stranded citizens instead of refugees that have been thru a disaster or war.
I have to disagree with you Steve69. If they were treated as "stranded citizens" they would have received the same timely response as the hurrican victims in Florida.
The media and the government are having a field day in my opinion of exploiting the suffering and measures of desparation that our people are experiencing.
cocobutterskyn 09-04-2005, 01:47 AM The media regarding Katrina Hurricane victims as, “Refugees” instead of victims, adds insult to injury. When there are floods, earthquakes or other natural disasters that mostly affect Whites, who become displaced and receive shelter and necessities from Red Cross and other help organizations they are RESPECTFULLY referred to as, “victims”.
Steve69,
the media didn’t need to use the word “Refugees” to dramatize the ordeal of the Katrina victims. The heart-wenching images and fact it took FOUR DAYS before help arrived speaks volume. I’m sure with their tragic circumstances FOUR DAYS felt like FOUR WEEKS.
They are human-beings who deserve better treatment. animals/pets in America are treated with more compassion. When Bush returned from VACATION, he emerged in the doorway of his plane... LOVINGLY holding his pooch in his arms... carried him down the stairs and LOVINGLY placed him on the ground.
Coco
Sekhemu 09-04-2005, 09:23 AM Last night on the news they even downgraded from "refugees" and said the people were being loaded on trucks like "HUMAN CARGO." What did they call it when white folks were being loaded previously? I think its all subliminal and they are loving to exploit the image of suffering black people and just had to take it there!
Human Cargo? isn't that what we were called on the way over here in the bottom of slave ships?
Steve69 09-04-2005, 02:50 PM My response was really to the original post that these people were way more than just stranded citizens. And you are right; victims would also have been a good definition. But I don’t think there was time to take a poll and find a word that would be less offensive to us. I would be willing to bet that you won’t find the white victims complaining about this name being used for them. And if the word victims had been used there would have still been an issue with that word. A refugee in a war is like a victim or stranded citizen that has been displaced or partially abandoned by their countries government that has been unable to protect and provide for them, forcing them to seek refugee.. We have always had victims of natural disasters before, does this seem like those times, and is it the same as those victims?
Because of the way we sometimes look at things I think we would have had a problem with any word used.
Destee 09-14-2005, 07:03 PM Hey Family,
Anyone else notice that they STOPPED referring to these "Americans" as refugees?
I wonder why.
If they were refugees yesterday, why aren't they today?
If we didn't hear it for ourselves, we'd probably not believe it even happened.
No mention of refugees today.
:heart:
Destee
Deepvoice 09-15-2005, 02:10 PM During the time they were saying refugees they were also using the word evacuee interchangebly. I thought the two words were synonymous
HODEE 09-15-2005, 03:40 PM Florida got the help because his brother has to keep his job and look good. Now today Bush has accepted some responsibility, the governor has accepted some responsibility and the mayor has too. Now all three should resign for lack of preparedness.
M - mind control ( make them all believe )
E- Everything we write and say
D- despite the truth, which is ours to present
I - Instill this into everyone into will see and believe
A -As much of our truth as they can swallow.
M - mind control must be practiced on
E - everyone
D - Destroying
I- Individual
A - Achievements
Everything your trying to get, achieve, realize and create.
Their main job is to get us to accept violence, war, hardship and mistreatment as everyday common things. That I will never accept, the convert in me will never accept the media. My eyes see, my ears hear, and I feel the presense of GOD. He has spoken and only he has told the truth.
HODEE 09-15-2005, 04:36 PM On the news last night this brother in Atlanta had his relatives nine of them come live with him a while so they could gather themselves and wait on funds to get a place to live. The landlord is evicting him for overcrowding his apartment with guest. I would challenge the eviction on these grounds. It would buy him a few months before the eviction and that is all he needs.
Everyone of them said they had jobs, were productive, and the news media showed the kids getting ready for school, packing school bags, sharing in chores around the crowded apartment, making schedules for bathroom time and everything. They all said they had something to wake up to every morning in New orleans this has just placed them in a situation the mayor and governor asked them to do. Evacuate.. the city. Now what? That would be my argument.
The news media asked the landlord if he could make an acception. He came up with some valid reasons but the heart and mind was disconnected in his response.
The lease does say, that guest can stay three days no more. So If I was him I would go sign them all up on the lease and settle that one. How you live and Chinese do this, Mexicans do this and Vietnamese do it.
Crowded in a two bedroom duplex is your own business. As long as they do not tear up the property. There should be no problem in this tactic.
The land lord gave him 30 days. Wrong. Its sixty from him to tenant.
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http://www.rentlist.net/LTevict.htm
State of Georgia Landlord Tenant Law - Eviction Law
44-7-7.
Sixty days' notice from the landlord or 30 days' notice from the
tenant is necessary to terminate a tenancy at will.
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Some other view points around the country on this situation.
http://www.ajc.com/lving/content/custom/blogs/dating/entries/2005/09/07/a_place_to_call.html
By Ignatius
September 7, 2005 10:05 AM | Link to this
Jeff I think the some of the best news I have seen concerning the relief effort is one of the local metro areas throwing up a sign that says “Welcome Guests”. There has been some discussion about labels such as evacuees or refugees, but I like guests the best. They are our guests, they are our brothers and sisters, and they have been through a hell not of their own making. What if they are low-income (i.e. “poor”), aren’t they the ones who need our help most desperately? The secret to charity is to allow the recipient to retain their dignity, and to help someone who desperately needs it is our highest calling.
By Wise Diva
September 7, 2005 10:13 AM | Link to this
I would have an attitude as well, and I wouldn’t give a rat’s a*s if people didn’t like that I wasn’t pollyanna so that THEY feel better about MY devestation. They aren’t upset @ the volunteers, they are frustrated with the entire ordeal. I don’t knock them at ALL for the emotions they feel because I have NO effin idea what the hell they are going through, what they witnessed, or what their future looks like. SO I am SURE, the dry, safe, people with money in their BANK ACCOUNTS can forgive a lil testy attitude from folks who have NOTHING.
By Wil-Son
September 7, 2005 10:14 AM | Link to this
Ignatius I think you missed the issue that Jeff was talking about. It is not a matter of being called refugee, evacuee or guest. He is stating that some of them are becoming demanding and ungrateful. On the news this morning some of them were ranting and raving about not getting a gas card. The lady kept telling them that they were out but more were on the way. They were not satisfied with her answer. People are trying to help but we can only do so much at a time. They don’t seem to understand that money is not being shaken off of a tree, the organizations and people providing these funds have to make a living themselves and they are taking part of their living and sharing it. They are going to have to be more patient.
By BlackIce
September 7, 2005 10:17 AM | Link to this
Ig I agree with you but I don’t think that equates to putting people up in mansions or buying cars when they lived in a two bedroom and relied on public transportation before. I am all for helping but not to the extent that it will hinder a person from doing things for themselves.
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