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anAfrican 09-01-2005, 06:11 PM (begging RA Wisdom7's pardon for this use of her post. she presented this pointer to knowledge so i'm thought it only proper to attribute her in this post? but this thing just hit me and i just had to ask the house if it might be worthy of some sort of consideration? 'scuse! ..."excuseRA==excuseMe" ???)
ON IDENTITY: (maybe develop some sort of key for those ideas that could percolate into a possible "FAQForum"? thought #2)
She breaks up Af(flesh) Ka(soul) Ra (sun) Meaning flesh and soul of the hidden sun.
Wait. That resonates! HARD!
Yo, RA; could I put forth the suggestion that we adopt this? and adopt the honorific "RA" when speaking of/to/with/for/about selfRA/otherRA/allRA?
At the core of Our Being burns the Sun! and, come to think of it; no matter what is going down, that is what we are feeling inside. whatever it is down in us that comes to the fore when needed, could only be the size and strength of the Sun, couldn't it? don't y'all feel that when push come on down to shove?! rrRA!
That's Who We Are: a People who's Flesh and Soul are Powered, Driven, Supported, Nurtured and Justified by the Sun! RA
That is the Inner Peace. Find "Me" and Be RA!
Please do keep us (i wanna know, anyway!) updated on the progress of RA Evelyn's site!! hey! given how much there is of any sort of real, "raw" "truth", i'm willing to fall into some "kid's" books! Learnin is everywhere!
I came across a black author for children's books. I'm going to post her link once she updates her site, but it's books teaching black children about our kings, queens, the meaning of Afraka (how it was spelled before "Africa)
She breaks up Af(flesh) Ka(soul) Ra (sun) Meaning flesh and soul of the hidden sun.
I love the two books I saw of hers, because she has poems of kings and kings and mentions who they were, what they did and thows in titles like "Bling Bling" as in the true bling blingers.
She tells us/the children, not to view ourselves as slaves, but as people who were "enslaved".
She mentions how it took 36,000 vogages to get us here and how meany people were killed and how 10 million survived. In her eyes we were 10 million strong and as decendants we are New Beings - Nubians, surviors and the "flesh and soul of the hidden sun."
She has question and answer pages, crossword puzzles etc., Her books are beautiful and deep enough for children to understand.
Basically, she talks about our history with slavery, kings and queens in Africa, the pyramides etc., and implements that with today and a new mindset.
Wisdom7 09-02-2005, 12:38 AM Hi anAfrican.
I can't take credit for any of that, that was Ms. Evelyn's words, I just shared the information, but I'm glad you value it. I spoke with Ms. Evelyn today. She said her website should be updated hopefully by the 14th of this month. She said they have gotten so busy. My friend who has 2 of the books for her kids said they spoke of Ms. Evelyn on the Tom Polk show.
In what you pointed out in your post on her saying of Afraka, iit reminded me of hearing before that we were called "Children of the Sun" or that we were borne in the sun cycle? I had heard that part, but not in the sense that she broke it down.
She also really drums it home on the importance of words and the power they have and what we call ourselves. And also as "flesh and soul of the hidden sun" she states we MUST CREATE
But, I'll let you know when her site is ready. Instead of having 2 Nubian slatelets she now has 12. I'm thirsty to drink from that fountain of knowledge!
I like the insights you are sharing about RA. Making me think some more. :thinking: Please continue sharing
Wisdom7 09-02-2005, 12:56 AM Also, thinking about how in "biblical terms
The world is supposed to find salvation through "The Children of Israel"
Even breaking up Israel it's a question --IS-RA-EL? (El is another name they used for God
or
They can't get to the Father (universial conscious that only people of the dark race have admittance to on the highest level having to do with their penial glan) except through the son (SUN)
Hmmmn >.again The Light shines in the Darkness (our people), but the Darkness know it not. (or do not comprehend -as stated in other bibles)
Are we God manifested in the flesh (I know we aren't now, but if we were to attain that higher level. That gift wasn't given to us for nothing)
No weapon they have formed against us shall prevail. (I can see that if we were on that other level)
Do we have a bigger job here to do than just help our own once we attain this higher level of consciousness?
Just tossing around some thoughts :thinking:
What do u think?
anAfrican 09-02-2005, 02:07 PM RA! (={hello, peace, hotep, power, strength, blessings, acknowledgement of the Hidden Sun in me, you, all of us!})
Hi anAfrican.
I can't take credit for any of that, that was Ms. Evelyn's words, I just shared the information, but I'm glad you value it. I spoke with Ms. Evelyn today. She said her website should be updated hopefully by the 14th of this month. She said they have gotten so busy. My friend who has 2 of the books for her kids said they spoke of Ms. Evelyn on the Tom Polk show.
But, I'll let you know when her site is ready. Instead of having 2 Nubian slatelets she now has 12. I'm thirsty to drink from that fountain of knowledge!I Agree, RA (={mrs., ms., mr., sister, brother, uncle, father, mother, ...}) Wisdom7; absolutely parched! Looking forward to that site coming online!! Thanks for the update.
In what you pointed out in your post on her saying of Afraka, iit reminded me of hearing before that we were called "Children of the Sun" or that we were borne in the sun cycle? I had heard that part, but not in the sense that she broke it down.
She also really drums it home on the importance of words and the power they have and what we call ourselves. And also as "flesh and soul of the hidden sun" she states we MUST CREATE
I like the insights you are sharing about RA. Making me think some more. :thinking: Please continue sharingRA! The Hidden Sun that is the Fount of INNER PEACE!
RA! The Hidden Sun that drives all of us!
RA! The Hidden Sun that keeps us standing tall in spite of all the crap that is dumped on our backs!
RA! The Hidden Sun that keeps us putting one foot in front of the other when the going looks like forever!
RA! The Hidden Sun that keeps us striving and driving for Justice in an environment that knows not "Justice".
RA! The Hidden Sun that Drives, Infuses and Powers the Unquenchable Fire at the Heart of Black Folk(RA)!
RA! The Hidden Sun that keeps us going in the face of all strife, whether man made or natural!
RA! The Hidden Sun that IS the Soul of Afrakans!
Wisdom7 09-03-2005, 12:22 AM Hello Ra-anAfrican, I think it is definately time we ascend into the heavens of our higher consciousness and move away from the lower conscious thinking of AmerikKKa in order to move forward.
They tried to beat our brains in and replace our mindset with theirs, but as flesh and soul of the hidden sun RA we always rise. Time for an eclipse of their moon which is only reflected light, with our sun.
I'm with you in the ascension! :grouphug: .
Deepvoice 09-03-2005, 12:38 AM Is=living, Ra=sun/son, El=God. So the people of Israel are the children of the sun/son.
Wisdom7 09-03-2005, 12:49 AM Is=living, Ra=sun/son, El=God. So the people of Israel are the children of the sun/son.
Yes!! We ARE the LIVING GOD once we ascend into the higher consciousness God-mind. That's what I believe. Otherwise, why are we such a threat to everyone if we own the least of everyone. Goes deeper that that really, but u know But again, people are free to believe what they want and I am not an authority at all.
Peace and Love
anAfrican 09-03-2005, 12:54 AM Is=living, Ra=sun/son, El=God. So the people of Israel are the children of the sun/son.
Af(Flesh) Ra(Sun) Ka(Soul). I'm talking about Afrakans. And that is all I am talking about. You are perfectly welcome to bring "the living son of god" to ANOTHER THREAD, please. Would love to hear and learn about that viewpoint IN ANOTHER THREAD. Please
My thought for this thread in "Reclaiming OUR Stolen Culture" is another attempt to bring the Fire of the Hidden Sun that burns in OUR Flesh and Soul to someplace near the forefront of OUR collective consciousness. I'm not, IN THIS THREAD, interested, at this time, in the culture of other peoples. Any other time, any other thread, fine. Please; this thread is about Afrakans!
I hope that was respectful enough to clarify my feelings on this? or is this about to turn into something else.
Your comment is all well and good, and quite probably valid. But, please; in another thread!
Wisdom7 09-03-2005, 12:57 AM Af(Flesh) Ra(Sun) Ka(Soul). I'm talking about Afrakans. And that is all I am talking about. You are perfectly welcome to bring "the living son of god" to ANOTHER THREAD, please. Would love to hear and learn about that viewpoint IN ANOTHER THREAD. Please
My thought for this thread in "Reclaiming OUR Stolen Culture" is another attempt to bring the Fire of the Hidden Sun that burns in OUR Flesh and Soul to someplace near the forefront of OUR collective consciousness. I'm not, IN THIS THREAD, interested, at this time, in the culture of other peoples. Any other time, any other thread, fine. Please; this thread is about Afrakans!
I hope that was respectful enough to clarify my feelings on this? or is this about to turn into something else.
Your comment is all well and good, and quite probably valid. But, please; in another thread!
Ra-anAfrican,
He is speaking of us Afrakans. I thought we were on the same page, Maybe u might disagree. Please read the previous post.
anAfrican 09-03-2005, 01:04 AM Yes!! We ARE the LIVING GOD once we ascend into the higher consciousness God-mind. That's what I believe. Otherwise, why are we such a threat to everyone if we own the least of everyone. Goes deeper that that really, but u know But again, people are free to believe what they want and I am not an authority at all.
Peace and Lovei take it, then, that y'all are referring to the biblical "children of israel"? why?
i hadn't intended for this to have any "religious" overtones at all. it was, and is, purely Spiritual. and yes, one can have Spirituality very very well without "religion". sometimes it appears that the reverse is a requirement.
(it's too hard to "think" through what i am trying to write doing this in a text only browser. i get about 60 characters of each sentence and it scrolls off the screen. i'll "clean" this up when i can see what i am saying. once i get FreeBSD installed and configured.)
Afraka - Af(Flesh) Ra(Sun) Ka(Soul) - The Fire that Drives our Heart and Soul!
RA!
anAfrican 09-03-2005, 01:19 AM Ra-anAfrican,
He is speaking of us Afrakans. I thought we were on the same page, Maybe u might disagree. Please read the previous post.
i've pretty much come to the conclusion that i am going to toss out everything that i have ever learned and heard through the given "his-stories". too many questions; too many opportunities for someone to have "changed" some bit of it to suit someone else's agenda.
right now!, i feel that it is time for Afraka to pull itself together and develop some NOW-story. "ancient wisdoms" are all well and good; but those folks were living their NOW-stories. future historians are gonna look at us and go "they weren't living; they were looking for living in the past?" ancient wisdoms were all well and good and there is undeniably something of use there. but we need to use OUR "NOW-cient wisdom" to create OUR NOW-story.
were we actually still affiliated that deeply with Israel, i could go with that ... maybe. but, today; Israel is them, Afraka is US.
i'm talking about US. NOW.
Wisdom7 09-03-2005, 01:38 AM i take it, then, that y'all are referring to the biblical "children of israel"? why?
i hadn't intended for this to have any "religious" overtones at all. it was, and is, purely Spiritual. and yes, one can have Spirituality very very well without "religion". sometimes it appears that the reverse is a requirement.
(it's too hard to "think" through what i am trying to write doing this in a text only browser. i get about 60 characters of each sentence and it scrolls off the screen. i'll "clean" this up when i can see what i am saying. once i get FreeBSD installed and configured.)
Afraka - Af(Flesh) Ra(Sun) Ka(Soul) - The Fire that Drives our Heart and Soul!
RA!
All religions stem from the original spiritual foundation in Afraka. There is truth hidden everywhere. I was trying to pull it out of biblical terms and show how the use of their words were twisted from the original truth. Sometimes u have to delve into religion to bring out more understanding. But this is your thread and I don't want to divert from what you are saying or trying to get across, so I'll leave that one alone
Deepvoice 09-03-2005, 01:38 AM I don't believe in the Immaculate Conception, Holy Trinity, the Jesus of the New Testament, and many other things in the bible. I'm not religious, but thank you anyways. Reuniting the Africans, huh? If we ***-u-me the way in which you have done, then we must understand that whether we are the are the majority of the world population or minority, we'll never get anywhere if we are not on the same page.
I look at unity as a closed fist and the lack thereof as an open hand. No matter how big that open hand is, it will never inflict the same amount of damage the closed fist will. Whether we are 34 million or 3.4 million. Don't call the man down the street your brother because you see your reflection when you look in his face, a man can only be so Narcissistic. We black people must not claim all, but those willing to embrace us, among us.
Brotherhood is spiritual, not physical. I'm not going to forsake my one good brother for the prospect of 9 others.
anAfrican 09-03-2005, 01:49 AM All religions stem from the original spiritual foundation in Afraka. There is truth hidden everywhere. I was trying to pull it out of biblical terms and show how the use of their words were twisted from the original truth. Sometimes u have to delve into religion to bring out more understanding. But this is your thread and I don't want to divert from what you are saying or trying to get across, so I'll leave that one alone
but once "religion" enters anything, things start getting muddy with folks jumping in and trying to justify some particular sect of some particular religion.
i'm sorry that i undoutedly sound snittish. we don't need any more religious discussions. we need to pull OurSelves together around OurSelves. yeah; time for Black Folk to get a LOT "selfish" - and do for US. Period. NOW.
i do beg y'all's pardon for the tone of those posts. honestly, i have to admit that "it bugged me". a religious "discussion" is all well and good. i'm after a "Reclamation" here. and that reclamation is only gonna come from within each and every Afrakan. don't need no deities; no supernatural; no afterlife; no fallen angels or none of that! life can be done without it. and, please, not "but God is All" bit, either; i'm okay with that viewpoint, but <sigh> "me thinks me doth protest too much" - enough said? 'scuse!
RA!
anAfrican 10-22-2005, 09:43 PM just wondering if you've heard any more from Ms. Evelyn?
Hi anAfrican.
I can't take credit for any of that, that was Ms. Evelyn's words, I just shared the information, but I'm glad you value it. I spoke with Ms. Evelyn today. She said her website should be updated hopefully by the 14th of this month. She said they have gotten so busy. My friend who has 2 of the books for her kids said they spoke of Ms. Evelyn on the Tom Polk show.
In what you pointed out in your post on her saying of Afraka, iit reminded me of hearing before that we were called "Children of the Sun" or that we were borne in the sun cycle? I had heard that part, but not in the sense that she broke it down.
She also really drums it home on the importance of words and the power they have and what we call ourselves. And also as "flesh and soul of the hidden sun" she states we MUST CREATE
But, I'll let you know when her site is ready. Instead of having 2 Nubian slatelets she now has 12. I'm thirsty to drink from that fountain of knowledge!
I like the insights you are sharing about RA. Making me think some more. :thinking: Please continue sharing
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