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karmashines
08-28-2005, 12:16 AM
Why does American culture condone children/teenagers looking at violence, but gets in an uproar if they see something sexual? Aren't both of these things bad for the young psyche? In fact, some would argue violence is worse because it ALWAYS results in death an destruction.

$$RICH$$
08-28-2005, 02:21 AM
sexual behavior can do just as much , it can kill and be destructional
i truely don't allow my children to view sexual contents and try to shade
them from as much violence as i can but they see violence on the streets
no matter how i cut into the acts of T.V

I say both is harmful to the mindz of our youth / children
it's why we have to become the X factor and teach , reach out
and be a guide to steer out young from street violence / sexual contents

my question is what can we do about it to curb this and keep our kids
from the mix of sex & violence ..........sure we teaching , speaking , preach
and give guiding but what else can we do is it any programs they can get in
from the street life and sexual maze beside peer pressure????

Wisdom7
08-28-2005, 02:56 AM
Why does American culture condone children/teenagers looking at violence, but gets in an uproar if they see something sexual? Aren't both of these things bad for the young psyche? In fact, some would argue violence is worse because it ALWAYS results in death an destruction.
That's a good question karmashines. Lately it seems sex is running neck and neck w/violence now and the females portrayed in sexual acts are getting younger and younger. (i.e girls gone wild stuff, Jerry Springer etc.,) Even on regular TV they give too much power to the kids and almost represent them as adults, and then wonder why pedophiles and child abductions are on the rise.

Today's kids are so immersed in the current culture even if we're trying to stop it at home, you're righ $Rich$ they still get it on the streets. It's hard to figure out what to do.

My neice was here last night and started drawing. I had no idea she could draw. My mother and I draw, but after all this time I didn't know she could. So I started bringing up things she could do with that (hoping to get her mind open to new possibilities) Then she said she didn't realize she drew so well either. I think it's because my sister and I never really noticed. (sad but true) Long story short, she got excited and started trying to draw fashion designs. I gave her some of my old shirts, which she asked for. I kind of didn't want to part with them cuz I would wear them around the house, but I figured what could come of it could be beneficial to her. She took some markers and started creating designs on a couple of them, then started talking of other things she could possibly design. So I told her I'd get her a sketchpad.

After she left it made me think how we all have gifts and how quickly they can go unnoticed, but we can really redirect kids into something else and who knows what it could lead too.

notbeautiful
08-28-2005, 04:06 AM
I feel as though both are equally dangerous. But that's just me.

karmashines
08-28-2005, 04:47 AM
sexual behavior can do just as much , it can kill and be destructional
i truely don't allow my children to view sexual contents and try to shade
them from as much violence as i can but they see violence on the streets
no matter how i cut into the acts of T.V

I say both is harmful to the mindz of our youth / children
it's why we have to become the X factor and teach , reach out
and be a guide to steer out young from street violence / sexual contents

my question is what can we do about it to curb this and keep our kids
from the mix of sex & violence ..........sure we teaching , speaking , preach
and give guiding but what else can we do is it any programs they can get in
from the street life and sexual maze beside peer pressure????

True, though sex does not usually end lives as quickly as violence. Most STDs can be treated nowadays, and even HIV/AIDS sufferers can live longer lives. And pregnancy can also be dealt with even if done in at an inappropriate time. But how can society cope with violence? If you shoot somebody, they're dead forever... there's no redemption for such an act.

Granted, I do think kids should be censored from seeing sexual acts, but they should equally be censored from violence too. American culture doesn't seem to have such a balance... we get so uptight at the thought of kids being exposed to something sexual, yet think nothing of all the violence they see in films, television, and in video games.

Sekhemu
08-28-2005, 10:25 AM
Because this country was founded by the use of violence. Sex, and sexual oppression in particuliar, has been Americas dirty little secret. The so-called founding fathers who claimed to be pious christians were secretly raping enslaved African women and castrating the men. This dirty little secret is not being taught in the schools and the media won't touch it. Even our own people don't seem to discuss it these days. This is part of the problem.

$$RICH$$
08-29-2005, 04:46 AM
so true Sekhemu , violence has been the meanz of america
we do view sexuality more them we do violence which is the
number one killer both can be destructional but violence lead

we all know that there is ways we could feed positive things
into the minds of our youth we have to get involve start programs
to get as many off the streets before gun violence call them

but sekhemu make a great point and speak truth
the real question is what do we do ?
how can we curb these two and save our kids

sonnee01
08-29-2005, 02:59 PM
Well, you’re right, sex & violence is everywhere, and I wish I had the #1 answer on how to deal with these issues.

I have tried everything that is in me to shield my 13yr. old son from as much of this as possible. My thing is this…. Let the kids keep their innocents as long as they can. But, the sad part is these are the major topics of discussion at the school lunch room table. I tell you, some of the stuff my son has shared with me had my head on complete spin. But once he brings it to me open discussion has to take place. The topic of sex is almost like it was in the 60”s, everybody is so open and free where sex is concerned.

Now, in terms of the violence… I just don’t know. I try not to entertain violence, but it’s everywhere… even in some of the so called family movies.

I try to control my temper; I believe that a soft answer turns away anger. Now this is not something I’ve always done, I use to be very flipped at the mouth, and would want to fight at the drop of a hat. But in carrying on in that way, I soon learned that this was not the way to handle things. I had to learn not to let what someone said, does, or how they act towards me control my actions. So, having said all that, I guess it was just a maturity thing for me. So, maybe that could be a good place for the adults to start… if the youth see the adults handling things in a mature manner then maybe they will do the same. I was always told that children learn from us… they are watching us when we think they’re not paying us any attention.

Here’s something to think about for a quick min. Who are the ones putting out the sex and violence for our children to view?? It’s not the children. Okay, here’s another one…. Who are the ones buying the video games and movies with the sexual content in them??? It’s not the children. Oh yeah, what about the music? What about the sexual content and the violence in the music? I’m sure we all know just how much music can set the mood, for sex and/or violence.

Bottom line... parents have to be parents and start communicating with their children and their nieces & nephews, make frequent visits to their rooms, and don’t be afraid to listen to some of their conversations….yeah they won’t like it now, but they will appreciate it later. Oh, and talking about conversations, what is a good age for guys & girls to start having phone calls?

My son still ask if he can ride his bike around the corner, still ask if he can walk to the store, still ask if some of the guys can play basket ball in our yard. All the little fellows that we allow to come over always acknowledge my presents when they are at my home, by saying “Hello”….. Why you might ask? I don’t expect anything less, so as a result I don’t get less.

So, this is just my opinion of what I think adults can do to continue the process of saving our youth, we cannot be afraid to communicating with them and monitoring what they do…it’s not too late, we just have to hang in there and fight for their lives.

$$RICH$$
08-29-2005, 04:51 PM
so true i agree these are facts and realism , we as parents must , should
and need to inneract with our children, watch what we buy for them what they
listen to we all know once they leave our side for school they pick up and learn
what they call real world stuff about sex and often press into peer pressure
they view and see violence on the street daily and many times the out come
from that violence , how another is praised for it or a life taken from it
nearly everything in today's life has a display of violence in it , we can only
stay focus and teach what we feel and know is right for thy child / ren to reach
their goals and be knowledgable to teach there's once into adulthood

Often this sexual learning and violence come right out a child home
they picking it up first hand often from broken homes , fatherless means
the wath of drugs and it's violent world of destruction these kids our kids
often on school yards at lunch tables talk about sex and violence without
proper guiding some get lost into this creed of acts and then try to convince
the next to try it , do it how bad or tough it made another around the school
it become holding an image , we as parents concern people for our children
need to get more involved in our community structure we are the true first line
to there good will i agree with all been said here and know both
SEX and VIOLENCE is bad to our kids health and good will we hit on sex issues
and stremline violence because it's america's way and all it display from war
to gangs to streethood brawls and ect. that keeps it alive and strong.

like Sekhemu stated in real truth this country was founded by the use of it
and has made it apart of what america is about violence by all kinds of means
it's hard very hard to keep our kids shy from what is and the violence that's seen
we may be able to curb the sex drive but we need to focus on the daily violence
around them .

karmashines
08-29-2005, 05:14 PM
It's true that sometimes you can't shield your kids from what they see when they're not in your view. However, you should have ultimate control when they are in your house.

I am honestly contemplating whether it's even worth, for example, letting my kid have Internet access in his room even when he's a teenager, or whether he should date before 18. My husband and I have also thought about homeschooling as an option, both to have control over his education and to 'shield' him from unnecessary temptations and problems in regular school.

As a grown person with a child now I do understand better why my parents were as overprotective as they were over me. I don't want to go overboard with my son in that area, but I can't help but just be afraid for him with all of the dangers out there. If he has sex prematurely and irresponsibly, he could ruin his life financially if he gets a girl pregnant and/or get an incurable disease. If he gets caught up in violence, he could kill or be killed, or end up in jail with the same result. I mean, I'm so worried for him, and he's a boy... I think if he were a girl I'd worry even more, just like my parents did.

sonnee01
08-29-2005, 10:33 PM
Hey... I think we all have some very vaild concerns and good points, but y'all know what, all I could think about as I was reading over the last post by Karmashine was how my Bigmama handled all the stuff I was going through. She prayed, I mean on a daily. My mother took off and left me when I was sixteen, and on her way out the door her words to me were " I ain't gon worry bout you, cuz I know you will be alright" My bigmama would be in that kitchen cooking and just singing praises to the Lord. She would get to hummin, and justa cookin. I did not understand it then, but I sure do now.

So, y'all know what... I think I saw and heard her praying and singing for a reason, cuz now I know that the power of pray works, and it is a powerful weapon to fight with in order to help make this ride from my own child and the ride for other children I come in contact with a lot easier.

$$RICH$$
08-30-2005, 03:35 AM
no matter what we do and say we also can't be with our kids every moment or step
and surely we don't want to imtrap them to home and no freedom life and this where
they be exposed to drama , violence and greed sexuality and street life

sometime i have to sit back and think on how and what way to go
to not harm the child mentally while i'm trying to protect them from
sex , violence and danger of today's life , we have to really look at this
long and hard really i don't think we can sheer them from all the violence
but we can control what they watch and listen too .

Khasm13
09-13-2005, 08:22 PM
sex is natural....
while violence stems from an abnormal hormone
these two aspects of life mixed together are wicked
this makes both hard to condone...

one love
khasm

iwannabe
09-14-2005, 02:13 AM
Violent thinking and bahavior has done more damage in this world and civilization than sex. One might argue that aids is epidemic but you can make sooooo many arguments for violence being worse. Would you rather have your son out there spreading his penis around like crazy, or shooting people. Do you want him to think violence is okay, so when his wife back talks him, he smacks the **** out of her? I would rather have calm, un violent little sex fiends (or be one- I'm not tho) for children, than violent little kids that grow up to be mass murderers. The urge for sex and violence are natural and chemical but still both can be controlled to a great degree. So i think no matter what self control is essential.

$$RICH$$
09-15-2005, 05:43 AM
i agree with you both khasm & iwannabe

Tantrum
02-23-2006, 10:04 AM
Naw there both just as bad for children
Society today kills the young mind
To thinking smocking and things of that nature are cool
To think that violence and death is cool
The mentality of a young child is so....
That we have make sure we watch what they see and who they are around
So that arent in the environment to be around this
They are both just as bad one not more than thee other

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