Hello Family,

Sister Nita Mae asked me to ask yall this question, 'cause she is shy and was wundr'n ... :) ... but uhhh ... are you single, married, looking, involved, hungry, starving, or however you'd describe your current intimate relationship experience.

I don't know if Nita is look'n or what ... but anyway ... i've asked the question for her ... and will be the first to respond.

I am single, divorced, and currently have me and all my chiren ... and our u-hauls loaded wit all our stuff ... ready and waiting for the first invitation from a non-serial killer type ... :wink:

:heart:

Destee

I am single and currently looking only to get myself right before I try to get somone else.

Too much boo boo in your life only helps you to become boo boo, so I figure that if I get right, I will find someone who is right.

If someone cool comes along, I am down for whateva however.

Single and looking. I had just attempted to have a relationship with a woman I met online but it was long distance and other factors came in so we are just good friends now. I want something serious soon but got no prospects so I keep my eyes open around the city.

Ummmmm...see...How I get all in Destee scandle...smh...lolol

Well, I was seeing a guy up until last night, his jobs and school and church leaves no time for me...so I'm back on the market....The first 50 brothers will get a 10% discount too...lolol

QQ..Nita....Smh....:lol:


i am not on the market....not searchin, yearnin, hungry, or starvin
content and happy..
well some days that is.... :lol: other days i am at peace

I've never been married, but I am single and have been for 8 years. My last relationship ended after 5 years when my daughter was 10 years old, and I didn't think it was fit to parade a bunch of men around her when I knew deep down I was in no mood for a real relationship. So for the most part I dated away from the house but only casually.

The last year and a half I've discovered the type of man I truly see myself settling down with...and have only recently encountered a few who fit that role. It's been nice taking my time to get to know them, to open up and expose myself to them in a new way... to be mentally intimate without sex.

I'm sure soon things will change for me and the time couldn't be more perfect now that my daughter is starting her senior year of high school.

I have never really looked for a relationship...and dont ever plan to.

I'm single and not looking. I don't whore-around but I have women that I "see" casually. I think I'm ready for a relationship but I'm pretty picky when it comes to women. Not in the superficial shallow way, but I like women who are very very down to earth, genuinely sweet, beautiful inside and outside and honest. I don't know that many women like that so that's why I'm single. It's cool though. I have all the time in the world. :look: :shades:

involved and content :tongue:

I'm single, been divorced for many years now. I have dated here and there, but take myself "off the market" so to speak when I feel my patience running thin. I have some things that I am taking care of within myself, concentrating on being the best "me" possible. My King will find me.

I hear you...I too am waiting on my King to find me, and if he's reading this thread, hit me on my yahoo IM....lolol....smh :jumping: :lol:

Maybe we should start a personals forum?

well, yes, i'm single, but then i believe every1 else is too. plenty of ppl that think they're married r actually single & don't kno it yet :bomb: . others, who r actually married will b single again, f u jus wait long enuf :deal: (<----divorce papers) :crying: (& these days, the wait isn't usu very long).

now, as 4 the lookin part, my dateing life hasn't been going 2 well lately (actually, ever). it began when kwasi, nita, & destee all dumpled me, on the same day, :cry: :cry: :cry: (1 for kwasi, 1 for destee, & 1/2 of 1 for nita) & didn't even hv the indecency 2 wait till i wuz out of the room. they ganged up on me, &, not satisfied 2 merely kick me 2 the curb, kwasi & nita, paid destee 2 roll her fully loaded moving van, which she keeps on the ready, 'just n case', :huh: :rolleyes: ova me, twice, while i wuz tryin 2 sober up enough 2 stand up. :puke2: :puke: :puke2: (<----- me) then, destee used her 'powers' :bowdown: 2 spread stuff (i wuz going 2 call 'em lies, but un4tunately, they're all tru) 'bout me all thru cyberspace & beyond. :bawling: :bawling:

eva since then, my dates (xcept the ones w my left hand) hv been tortuously frustrating & nightmarishly dissapointing. here r a few of the hi-lights (lowlights)

me: haven't i seen u someplace b4?
woman: yes, that's y i don't go there anymore.

me: is this seat empty?
woman: yes, and this 1 will b 2 f u sit down there.

me: ur place or mine?
woman: both. u go 2 urs, & i'll go to mine.

me: so, what do u do 4 a living?
"woman": i'm a female impersonator.

me: so, what's ur sign?
woman: do not enter.

me: how do u like ur eggs n the morning?
woman: unfertilized.

me: i would go to the end of the world 4 u.
woman: but would u stay there?

me: f i could c u naked, i'd die happy.
woman: f i saw u naked, i'd probably die laughing.


as u can c, it isn't going 2 well. & now, 2 make matters worse, nita mae bonquisha, pass me anotha 40 oz, no mo icon strokin 4 u, jones, knowing it's my 1 source of potential pleasure, is threatening 2 hv her breasts reduced. this jus isn't my millennium. :help: :help:

:shades:

well, yes, i'm single, but then i believe every1 else is too. plenty of ppl that think they're married r actually single & don't kno it yet :bomb: . others, who r actually married will b single again, f u jus wait long enuf :deal: (<----divorce papers) :crying: (& these days, the wait isn't usu very long).

now, as 4 the lookin part, my dateing life hasn't been going 2 well lately (actually, ever). it began when kwasi, nita, & destee all dumpled me, on the same day, :cry: :cry: :cry: (1 for kwasi, 1 for destee, & 1/2 of 1 for nita) & didn't even hv the indecency 2 wait till i wuz out of the room. they ganged up on me, &, not satisfied 2 merely kick me 2 the curb, kwasi & nita, paid destee 2 roll her fully loaded moving van, which she keeps on the ready, 'just n case', :huh: :rolleyes: ova me, twice, while i wuz tryin 2 sober up enough 2 stand up. :puke2: :puke: :puke2: (<----- me) then, destee used her 'powers' :bowdown: 2 spread stuff (i wuz going 2 call 'em lies, but un4tunately, they're all tru) 'bout me all thru cyberspace & beyond. :bawling: :bawling:

eva since then, my dates (xcept the ones w my left hand) hv been tortuously frustrating & nightmarishly dissapointing. here r a few of the hi-lights (lowlights)

me: haven't i seen u someplace b4?
woman: yes, that's y i don't go there anymore.

me: is this seat empty?
woman: yes, and this 1 will b 2 f u sit down there.

me: ur place or mine?
woman: both. u go 2 urs, & i'll go to mine.

me: so, what do u do 4 a living?
"woman": i'm a female impersonator.

me: so, what's ur sign?
woman: do not enter.

me: how do u like ur eggs n the morning?
woman: unfertilized.

me: i would go to the end of the world 4 u.
woman: but would u stay there?

me: f i could c u naked, i'd die happy.
woman: f i saw u naked, i'd probably die laughing.


as u can c, it isn't going 2 well. & now, 2 make matters worse, nita mae bonquisha, pass me anotha 40 oz, no mo icon strokin 4 u, jones, knowing it's my 1 source of potential pleasure, is threatening 2 hv her breasts reduced. this jus isn't my millennium. :help: :help:

:shades:


Man....you are on one right now. :lol: :lol:
That's cold how they did ya. Man, you got some issues cuz of these women.
:nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:

thanx Alkebulan i needed that :laugh:

I am single and currently looking only to get myself right before I try to get somone else.

Too much boo boo in your life only helps you to become boo boo, so I figure that if I get right, I will find someone who is right.

If someone cool comes along, I am down for whateva however.
This is why we love you, Manasiac. The friendship of a brotha who is on the road to right is more precious than a diamond ring. Keep doin' whatcha doin' and God bless.

well, yes, i'm single, but then i believe every1 else is too. plenty of ppl that think they're married r actually single & don't kno it yet :bomb: . others, who r actually married will b single again, f u jus wait long enuf :deal: (<----divorce papers) :crying: (& these days, the wait isn't usu very long).

now, as 4 the lookin part, my dateing life hasn't been going 2 well lately (actually, ever). it began when kwasi, nita, & destee all dumpled me, on the same day, :cry: :cry: :cry: (1 for kwasi, 1 for destee, & 1/2 of 1 for nita) & didn't even hv the indecency 2 wait till i wuz out of the room. they ganged up on me, &, not satisfied 2 merely kick me 2 the curb, kwasi & nita, paid destee 2 roll her fully loaded moving van, which she keeps on the ready, 'just n case', :huh: :rolleyes: ova me, twice, while i wuz tryin 2 sober up enough 2 stand up. :puke2: :puke: :puke2: (<----- me) then, destee used her 'powers' :bowdown: 2 spread stuff (i wuz going 2 call 'em lies, but un4tunately, they're all tru) 'bout me all thru cyberspace & beyond. :bawling: :bawling:

eva since then, my dates (xcept the ones w my left hand) hv been tortuously frustrating & nightmarishly dissapointing. here r a few of the hi-lights (lowlights)

me: haven't i seen u someplace b4?
woman: yes, that's y i don't go there anymore.

me: is this seat empty?
woman: yes, and this 1 will b 2 f u sit down there.

me: ur place or mine?
woman: both. u go 2 urs, & i'll go to mine.

me: so, what do u do 4 a living?
"woman": i'm a female impersonator.

me: so, what's ur sign?
woman: do not enter.

me: how do u like ur eggs n the morning?
woman: unfertilized.

me: i would go to the end of the world 4 u.
woman: but would u stay there?

me: f i could c u naked, i'd die happy.
woman: f i saw u naked, i'd probably die laughing.


as u can c, it isn't going 2 well. & now, 2 make matters worse, nita mae bonquisha, pass me anotha 40 oz, no mo icon strokin 4 u, jones, knowing it's my 1 source of potential pleasure, is threatening 2 hv her breasts reduced. this jus isn't my millennium. :help: :help:

:shades:\
....smh "giggling"

thank you river and brother alk you is off glass.

SINGLE, LOOKING, EYES OPEN, NOTCHASING.

Well, somebody be my friend! Seriously, y'all.... I just filed my divorce papers (June 18). Here in Michigan, there is a 6 month waiting period. So, I'm separated, I suppose. I'm not currently looking for anything, but there's nothing wrong with a few friends here and there.......


Toya

P.S. I have yahoo IM/mail: tmonilin80, you know, just in case......... :wink:

Ohhhh Sister Toylin ... you should be coming into voice chat Sister !!!! ... there be Brothers in there ... not nearly no 'nuff ... but that's alright ... we just share the ones we have ... most are considered "community property" ... :wink: ... we be listening to music, discussing topics, some folk be flirt'n, i see 'em ... i aint gonna call no names ... and we be have'n a great time together ... just like here on the forum ... so it is in voice chat ... only better, because you hear voices! :)

C'mon in ... you'll love it ... www.destee.com/chat

:heart:

Destee

Ohhhh Sister Toylin ... you should be coming into voice chat Sister !!!! ... there be Brothers in there ... not nearly no 'nuff ... but that's alright ... we just share the ones we have ... most are considered "community property" ... :wink: ... we be listening to music, discussing topics, some folk be flirt'n, i see 'em ... i aint gonna call no names ... and we be have'n a great time together ... just like here on the forum ... so it is in voice chat ... only better, because you hear voices! :)

C'mon in ... you'll love it ... www.destee.com/chat

:heart:

Destee

Well, don't you have to be a premium member to use voice chat? And, anyway, I don't have a mic or anything for my comp.. not to mention I'm still using my shady AOL dial-up.........

Well, don't you have to be a premium member to use voice chat? And, anyway, I don't have a mic or anything for my comp.. not to mention I'm still using my shady AOL dial-up.........

No Sister, you don't have to be a Premium Member to hang out in voice chat (http://destee.com/chat)! :love:

Everyone is welcome to take part in the voice chat festivities! You don't have to have a microphone to participate, it's only needed if you want to talk in the room. You don't have to have speakers, unless you want to hear what others are saying. There is a regular text chat environment going on at the same time, so if you can't speak or hear, you can type to the others in the room, just like in any old chat room. But you really are missing the best part, speaking and hearing, without those things.

AOL does provide a bit more of a challenge getting in, but we have posted some steps (http://www.destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=107530&postcount=4) to take, that will make it easier to work with AOL. We have many Members that use their service and have no trouble getting in. We're here if you need us, just post in the Voice Chat Forum (http://www.destee.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=124), if you have any problems or questions about getting in.

We do have video chat that is for Premium Members only, where we can actually see and hear each other! We just upgraded our chat software and the video has not been added back yet, but you can always come into voice chat Sister!

Hope to see you in voice chat soon!

:heart:

Destee

I'm single and not looking. I don't whore-around but I have women that I "see" casually. I think I'm ready for a relationship but I'm pretty picky when it comes to women. Not in the superficial shallow way, but I like women who are very very down to earth, genuinely sweet, beautiful inside and outside and honest. I don't know that many women like that so that's why I'm single. It's cool though. I have all the time in the world. :look: :shades:

That is correct...
I like your style and the intelligence you hold concerning women, because in your own time...when it's time, ...
your "Queen" awaits you.

I'm single, been divorced for many years now. I have dated here and there, but take myself "off the market" so to speak when I feel my patience running thin. I have some things that I am taking care of within myself, concentrating on being the best "me" possible. My King will find me.


Yes he will, ...and surely it will be...
..."Worth the Wait"
I like the move you're making (concentrating on being the best "me" possible)

Thank you, Queen. I'll be 33 next month, and I know that still makes me fairly young, but I just can't and don't have the tolerance for bull anymore. Most of my life with my friendships and relationships, I have been patient, kind, sweet, whatever, and always ended up being on someone else's clock. Constantly. I just don't feel like that anymore. I just do me, and work on my own consistency and being true. The rest will fall in place eventually. Meanwhile, I am enjoying myself.

No Sister, you don't have to be a Premium Member to hang out in voice chat (http://destee.com/chat)! :love:

Everyone is welcome to take part in the voice chat festivities! You don't have to have a microphone to participate, it's only needed if you want to talk in the room. You don't have to have speakers, unless you want to hear what others are saying. There is a regular text chat environment going on at the same time, so if you can't speak or hear, you can type to the others in the room, just like in any old chat room. But you really are missing the best part, speaking and hearing, without those things.

Destee
That's great to know Destee. One of the reasons I haven't ventured into the voice chat scene is because I am hard of hearing and don't do very well in situations where there are a lot of people talking at once with music playing and what not. It would just sound like Niagara Falls to me. But I will check out the text based chat. If ya'll see my name there please make an effort to hit me one on the keyboard so I don't feel too left out.

Thanks

That's great to know Destee. One of the reasons I haven't ventured into the voice chat scene is because I am hard of hearing and don't do very well in situations where there are a lot of people talking at once with music playing and what not. It would just sound like Niagara Falls to me. But I will check out the text based chat. If ya'll see my name there please make an effort to hit me one on the keyboard so I don't feel too left out.

Thanks

You're very welcome Sister River. Actually, you can turn your speakers off, if you don't want to hear the person speaking or the music playing (you can also mute it from a button in the chat room).

There is only one microphone, so only one person is actually talking at a time. Others can share their thoughts about what is being said on the microphone, into the room via text ... until their turn for the mic comes up.

Our voice chat rooms (http://destee.com/chat) are very peaceful, warm, calming ... you'll love it Sister.

Hope to see you there soon!

:heart:

Destee

Destee I must be doing something wrong because when I enter my name and press enter it says Welcome river you are now logged in and there is a button that says Start voice chat but when I click it nothing happens. I tried the button for troubleshooting and got a 404 with an error message written in what looked like it might be Mandarin Chinese letters. What's going on here?

The same thing is happening to me? What's up? I wanna talk to River.

Me...I'm single. Date often and still looking for the right type of woman to truly connect with. I have very high standards, however I'm very practical and extremely down to earth.

I believe you can have anything you want, but not everything you want. Not everything simply because you're gonna eventually run out of time on this earth. :spin:

I've had one bad relationship, which I learned a great deal from, but for the most part I've had very good relationships with women. Most importantly, it's not about how many times you fall...What matters is how many times you get back up. Be patient. Try to put yourself in the other person's shoes sometimes and most of all do what your gut feelings tell you.

And we should start a personals forum. Let's make it happen!

is there a category for old and used up.............? :wink:

is there a category for old and used up.............? :wink:
LOL...I'm single..and desiring a potential interest...any body on here..wanna apply..im 23 from michigan.. Let a sister know :hot:

I'm married and have been for a loooooooooooong time.

I guess I'm lucky to have found a great man when I was young, not that I'd encourage people to get married right out of school, but it worked for me.

is there a category for old and used up.............? :wink:

Yes Brother James ... it's called "good friend" ... :lol:

Thanks everyone for responding!

Please keep sharing.

:heart:

Destee

I'm single and not looking. I don't whore-around but I have women that I "see" casually. I think I'm ready for a relationship but I'm pretty picky when it comes to women. Not in the superficial shallow way, but I like women who are very very down to earth, genuinely sweet, beautiful inside and outside and honest. I don't know that many women like that so that's why I'm single. It's cool though. I have all the time in the world. :look: :shades:



Brother Man, I feel you. You're not going to find too many down-to-earth women in Los Angeles since many are trying to fit into the Hollywood glamore. Even the "conscious" sistas out here are looking a little suspect.


Peace....

I'm single and not looking. I don't whore-around but I have women that I "see" casually. I think I'm ready for a relationship but I'm pretty picky when it comes to women. Not in the superficial shallow way, but I like women who are very very down to earth, genuinely sweet, beautiful inside and outside and honest. I don't know that many women like that so that's why I'm single. It's cool though. I have all the time in the world. :look: :shades:


I need your attitude..just change women to men. Actually the only man I'm looking for right now is.. a boss/supervisor/manager. I get one of those and I'll be good. Me and men aint getting long to well..still love em..I just get the ones that let their ex bother them...smh. :danger: But when my king comes, he is getting the 20 star treatment.. Imma be like Jill Scott lol. Until then...i'll be dating school,family and writing..

Brother Man, I feel you. You're not going to find too many down-to-earth women in Los Angeles since many are trying to fit into the Hollywood glamore. Even the "conscious" sistas out here are looking a little suspect.Peace....


I hear you man. If others think they have a shortage of sistas to pick from, try coming to L.A. You'll get depressed trying to find someone that can actually walk and chew gum at the same time. Every woman out here is the same. The all act a certain way, talk a certain way, dress a certain way and think a certain way. I really want out of this state. You're 100% right Pharaoh Jahil, everyone (including the co-called conscious sistas) are suspect. Hollywood is what you call it and it's like the plague.

I hear you man. If others think they have a shortage of sistas to pick from, try coming to L.A. You'll get depressed trying to find someone that can actually walk and chew gum at the same time. Every woman out here is the same. The all act a certain way, talk a certain way, dress a certain way and think a certain way. I really want out of this state. You're 100% right Pharaoh Jahil, everyone (including the co-called conscious sistas) are suspect. Hollywood is what you call it and it's like the plague.

lol Where is my sistah Soulfulmixx lol we were just discussing this last night in chat brotha kente...being as how she is in, you and Pharaoah's area of cali as well. However I dont know how safe it is to short change what concious brothas/sistahs that DO reside in your area... and as far as the whole "state" comment goes (:read:) I LOVE the strong afrocentric community here in the BAY AREA (which is still apart of that state ;) ). It is wonderful for me to see it be a part of it and feel it wherever I go here :) Though I do agree that it may be hard to find REAL brothas and sistahs where you are at...i would be being bias in saying there are none...after all brotha...you & pharoah & sista soulfulmixx all reside there and are concious soul stirring brethren....all is not lost :)

all is not lost :)

Yes it is Trinity.....all is lost. :D


No, I know there are a couple, but they're probably already scooped up by now. I was in Oakland visiting a friend and I had a good time up there. It was very nice and pleasant in an area with a lot of black folks. The whole feel was differnt than out her in Fake-Ville. So maybe I don't need to leave the state, just this city and everywhere around it.

I'm single. I was Married. But now I'm single.I feel liberated.Oh Soo LIBERATED!!!!. I'm not looking but I AM finding. I'm trying my hardest to leave the Mens' alone- but they are everywhere!!!. Nope- I'm not looking!!

I'm single. I was Married. But now I'm single.I feel liberated.Oh Soo LIBERATED!!!!. I'm not looking but I AM finding. I'm trying my hardest to leave the Mens' alone- but they are everywhere!!!. Nope- I'm not looking!!


You're lucky I'm taken hot1 :bowl:

You're lucky I'm taken hot1 :bowl:


Heck Yeah I'm Lucky- I'm not tryin' to hook up with you!

Naaw- I'm just jivin' ya Sek. Sides' it wouldn't work. I'm Optimistic and Open Minded- you would just rain on my Parade and block my Sunshine!.

But, I still think that you are cool!

Naaw- I'm just jivin' ya Sek. Sides' it wouldn't work. I'm Optimistic and Open Minded- you would just rain on my Parade and block my Sunshine!.

But, I still think that you are cool!


Not at all, I'd give you a pleasant surprise. One you'd never forget :jawdrop:

lol Where is my sistah Soulfulmixx lol we were just discussing this last night in chat brotha kente...being as how she is in, you and Pharaoah's area of cali as well. However I dont know how safe it is to short change what conscious brothas/sistahs that DO reside in your area... and as far as the whole "state" comment goes (:read:) I LOVE the strong afrocentric community here in the BAY AREA (which is still apart of that state ;) ). It is wonderful for me to see it be a part of it and feel it wherever I go here :) Though I do agree that it may be hard to find REAL brothas and sistahs where you are at...i would be being bias in saying there are none...after all brotha...you & pharoah & sista soulfulmixx all reside there and are conscious soul stirring brethren....all is not lost :)
Dr Kerenga and the US organization is based in LA.

Not at all, I'd give you a pleasant surprise. One you'd never forget :jawdrop:
may i watch? :picture:

James..you are kinky lol :laugh:

may i watch? :picture:

Yeah, if were an exhibitionist. James you are kinky/weird

Yes it is Trinity.....all is lost. :D


No, I know there are a couple, but they're probably already scooped up by now. I was in Oakland visiting a friend and I had a good time up there. It was very nice and pleasant in an area with a lot of black folks. The whole feel was differnt than out her in Fake-Ville. So maybe I don't need to leave the state, just this city and everywhere around it.
lolol smh C'mere kente... QQ

closer come closer sweetie i jes wanna hug you LOL

i fink you like bein difficult shoo...are you related to brotha James?? hehehe

I wish you the best whereva ya go brotha :look: :)

Yeah, if were an exhibitionist. James you are kinky/weird

QQ smh

see to quote uncle Brown... "Yall NaShTeEeE" :lol:

Not at all, I'd give you a pleasant surprise. One you'd never forget :jawdrop:



Really Now??

Yeah, if were an exhibitionist. James you are kinky/weird


The crazy thing is he WOULD watch!. I wouldn't put it past him to catch us on Film either and I wouldn't mind one bit!.

The crazy thing is he WOULD watch!. I wouldn't put it past him to catch us on Film either and I wouldn't mind one bit!.


Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so you wanna get busy with me after all, and have him film it too. You're kinky too, sounds like you have an itch that needs to be scratched :jump:

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so you wanna get busy with me after all, and have him film it too. You're kinky too, sounds like you have an itch that needs to be scratched :jump:


If you think that you can reach where I'm itching- then go for it!

Oh! By the way, Kinky doesn't even begin to describe me Sek' :smooch:

If you think that you can reach where I'm itching- then go for it!

:haha: oh you wanna try my skills out huh. I have your toes curlin so much you have to soak 'em in epsom salt :devil:

may i sell tickets?
I'll split it with you.

maybe late night on pay per view.
i'll have my people call your people. :bingo:

may i sell tickets?
I'll split it with you.

maybe late night on pay per view.


Brotha James this ain't a burlesque show lol

:haha: oh you wanna try my skills out huh. I have your toes curlin so much you have to soak 'em in epsom salt :devil:



:haha: See now, that sounds like a challenge to me. I'm all for it- so bring it!

Oh- wait a minute- You're Married!! Sorry...better luck next time......

may i sell tickets?
I'll split it with you.

maybe late night on pay per view.
i'll have my people call your people. :bingo:



You're a Derty Birdie For' Reals James!.....But, atleast I know where I can get the hook-up if need be. I'll definatley keep you in mind.

:haha: See now, that sounds like a challenge to me. I'm all for it- so bring it!

Oh- wait a minute- You're Married!! Sorry...better luck next time......\

we'll see

See, there you go!. I'm trying to give you a chance to back down 'cause the truth of the matter is- You couldn't handle me - I'd give you a heart attack!.

See, there you go!. I'm trying to give you a chance to back down 'cause the truth of the matter is- You couldn't handle me - I'd give you a heart attack!.


You! give me a heart attack? more likely I'd be crackin' your back!

:lol: :lol: Y'all crazy

:lol: :lol: Y'all crazy
:lol: Sister and dey say the freaks come out at night LOL smh

They seem to be all ouuuuuuuuuuut no matta what time it is QQn my goodness :lol:

:lol: Sister and dey say the freaks come out at night LOL smh

They seem to be all ouuuuuuuuuuut no matta what time it is QQn my goodness :lol:


Especially on here..they bold on here...not fraid of da light :eek:

Especially on here..they bold on here...not fraid of da light :eek:
:lol: Yanno sister I was gon make a comment :read: :lol: but ummmm errrrr uhhhhhh :laugh: I think its best saved for us sistas once sista chat is back up and runnin yanno :lol: I spose freaks got feelings too LOL I wouldnt know nuffin bout it of course me being the innocent I am :angel1: :D

:lol: Yanno sister I was gon make a comment :read: :lol: but ummmm errrrr uhhhhhh :laugh: I think its best saved for us sistas once sista chat is back up and runnin yanno :lol: I spose freaks got feelings too LOL I wouldnt know nuffin bout it of course me being the innocent I am :angel1: :D


:haha: Trin', you need to quit perpetrating- you know that you're a freak too! Talkin' about some' "me being innocent"- Girl Please! You ain't foolin' NOBODY!

You! give me a heart attack? more likely I'd be crack your back!



Sek' you know that you're wrong right?....Hmmm, I recall a certain somebody saying that he was "Married"..now, unless you were fibbing you shouldn't be making sexual threats that YOU CAN'T DELIVER!.

Sides', you said so yourself-" No Thanks James- I'll pass".....soo why don't you do just that.

Lol ok..yall can make a sexual threat towards me..only it won't be a threat :lol: ... I got needs too... :insane:

:haha: Trin', you need to quit perpetrating- you know that you're a freak too! Talkin' about some' "me being innocent"- Girl Please! You ain't foolin' NOBODY!
QQ *hands on my hips* NO you did not smh
I have NO clue what you are referring to mijita QQ
I aint playin wichu shoo mess around and make me lose my purrrrty halo
:angel1: :angel1: :angel1: :angel1:

QQ *hands on my hips* NO you did not smh
I have NO clue what you are referring to mijita QQ
I aint playin wichu shoo mess around and make me lose my purrrrty halo
:angel1: :angel1: :angel1: :angel1:



Un huhn...That Halo that you're talkin' about has been gone for decades!

Keep it real with us Trin - yous' a derrty Birdie!

Sek' you know that you're wrong right?....Hmmm, I recall a certain somebody saying that he was "Married"..now, unless you were fibbing you shouldn't be making sexual threats that YOU CAN'T DELIVER!.

Sides', you said so yourself-" No Thanks James- I'll pass".....soo why don't you do just that.


Awwww come on, this is all in jest. You know full well I ain't tryin to stroke ya kitty. Besides you done let capt caveman :bam: sorry, couldn't resist :ooops:

Un huhn...That Halo that you're talkin' about has been gone for decades!

Keep it real with us Trin - yous' a derrty Birdie!

:read: chillllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
smh *takin my earrings back off*
you gon make me go buck wild madea style up in hea QQ
now LOOK QQ *hands back on my hips*
first of all chile what in mercy's name is a "derrty birdie"
why da bird gotta be dirty??? where you from again honey???
Aint dey cleant dem chickens before dey kilt em and fed em to ya QQ
cause dem da onlee birds I could think you would be talkin bout
ANDDDDDDDDD... in my tia's words...

~Sere siempre reina negra. Una reina sabe cuando decir las cosas derechas. Una reina sabe cuando a haga las cosas derechas. Una reina, satisface solamente a su REY.~

even if I was somefin long da lines of somefin long da lines of somefin down da line of somefin next do' cross da line and round da corner to what you mighta been referring to (if'n i knew what in da heck you were talkin bout) it doesnt make a lick of sense for me to SAY... YES I AM ______ ...afta all baby girl some things are meant to be FOUND out :read: tu sabes mija? :read: lol wif yo krazee behind smh lol now you bess'n LEAVE MY HALO ALONE. QQ
I done had to tape it up a few times but its still mine danngit LOL

Lol ok..yall can make a sexual threat towards me..only it won't be a threat :lol: ... I got needs too... :insane:


hmmmmmmmmmm :thinking:

:read: chillllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
smh *takin my earrings back off*
you gon make me go buck wild madea style up in hea QQ
now LOOK QQ *hands back on my hips*
first of all chile what in mercy's name is a "derrty birdie"
why da bird gotta be dirty??? where you from again honey???
Aint dey cleant dem chickens before dey kilt em and fed em to ya QQ
cause dem da onlee birds I could think you would be talkin bout
ANDDDDDDDDD... in my tia's words...

~Sere siempre reina negra. Una reina sabe cuando decir las cosas derechas. Una reina sabe cuando a haga las cosas derechas. Una reina, satisface solamente a su REY.~

even if I was somefin long da lines of somefin long da lines of somefin down da line of somefin next do' cross da line and round da corner to what you mighta been referring to (if'n i knew what in da heck you were talkin bout) it doesnt make a lick of sense for me to SAY... YES I AM ______ ...afta all baby girl some things are meant to be FOUND out :read: tu sabes mija? :read: lol wif yo krazee behind smh lol now you bess'n LEAVE MY HALO ALONE. QQ
I done had to tape it up a few times but its still mine danngit LOL


:lol: See, now it's my turn to ask you- WHAT THA' HECK ARE YOU talkin' about???. You straight up lost me in that ol' shuffle of yours.....speakin' Spanglish and whatnot....Trin', girl you know I'm not too hip to all them languages and stuff- why you gotta' trip a sista out by using foreign languages?


Around these parts- we CHOKE Chickens more than we clean them! (me doing my dirtiest laugh) heheh hehe.....

Awwww come on, this is all in jest. You know full well I ain't tryin to stroke ya kitty. Besides you done let capt caveman :bam: sorry, couldn't resist :ooops:




Who is Capt caveman Sek'?......stroke my kitty? I ain't gots' No Kitty- I gots a full grown Panther Grrrrr!

Who is Capt caveman Sek'?......stroke my kitty? I ain't gots' No Kitty- I gots a full grown Panther Grrrrr!


:hearthis: caveman=modern day caucasian

:hearthis: caveman=modern day caucasian



Forget You jive Turkey!......and you're one to talk Mr. Nachos, Tacos AND Burritos!

Let's Go Head to Head Sek', I got some tricks up in my pockets- I'm ready for ya'.....Senior!

Smh @ you two...

Have mercy lol smh...
Virgo to answer your question...it was my aunts self-created psalm that she taught me to recite when i was a lil bit while braiding my big head up...
simple translation mijita...


~Sere siempre reina negra. Una reina sabe cuando decir las cosas derechas. Una reina sabe cuando a haga las cosas derechas. Una reina, satisface solamente a su REY NEGRO~

~I will always reign and be a BLAK QUEEN. A Queen knows when to say the right things. A Queen knows when to do the right things the right way. A Queen only pleases her BLAK KING.~

:read: now go back to ya chicken chokin chile lol

Let's Go Head to Head Sek', I got some tricks up in my pockets- I'm ready for ya'.....Senior!


You wanna go er.. ahhh.. head to head. hmmmmm sounds like an interesting "configuration" , here have some :wine: , while I take a drag :yo: don't wanna rush into our ahhh "head to head", by the way, ladies first :grin: my head's ready. and what was that about your "pocket :whip:

You wanna go er.. ahhh.. head to head. hmmmmm sounds like an interesting "configuration" , here have some :wine: , while I take a drag :yo: don't wanna rush into our ahhh "head to head", by the way, ladies first :grin: my head's ready. and what was that about your "pocket :whip:



You ain't nothing but Trouble!. I'ma' leave you alone cause you are definatley flirting with disaster.

Smh @ you two...

Have mercy lol smh...
Virgo to answer your question...it was my aunts self-created psalm that she taught me to recite when i was a lil bit while braiding my big head up...
simple translation mijita...


~Sere siempre reina negra. Una reina sabe cuando decir las cosas derechas. Una reina sabe cuando a haga las cosas derechas. Una reina, satisface solamente a su REY NEGRO~

~I will always reign and be a BLAK QUEEN. A Queen knows when to say the right things. A Queen knows when to do the right things the right way. A Queen only pleases her BLAK KING.~

:read: now go back to ya chicken chokin chile lol


Tu' esta muy comica Chica! yeah- you didn't know that I had that in me huhn?...my spanish is a tad rusty these days but I'm trying to get better at it.


I liked that Psalm Sis'........

Now, back to my chicken chokin'......

Lol ok..yall can make a sexual threat to-wards me..only it won't be a threat :lol: ... I got needs too... :insane:
come sit on my lap and tell uncle Fester all about it, sweetie :slobber:

You ain't nothing but Trouble!. I'ma' leave you alone cause you are definatley flirting with disaster.


:haha: oh you're killin me, you can't kidd around with a brotha huh, My wife is laughin at this. Take it easy ok.

come sit on my lap and tell uncle Fester all about it, sweetie :slobber:




:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: !!!

come sit on my lap and tell uncle Fester all about it, sweetie :slobber:


uncle fester? rhymes wit' molesta lol

Let's Go Head to Head Sek', I got some tricks up in my pockets- I'm ready for ya'.....Senior!
hey, no fair, yo!

:haha: oh you're killin me, you can't kidd around with a brotha huh, My wife is laughin at this. Take it easy ok.



Tell her I said" Heeey!!



We can ALL go at it- what say you, are you up for it?

uncle fester? rhymes wit' molesta lol
yeah, Fester the molester.
every one has an uncle like that in the family.

hey, no fair, yo!



Well then- how can we even the scale?

Tell her I said" Heeey!!



We can ALL go at it- what say you, are you up for it?


She said peace, I wore her out, she wanna loan my skills out for the time being lol

She gettin old can't keep up with me no mo' :bullseye:

Let's Go Head to Head Sek', I got some tricks up in my pockets- I'm ready for ya'.....Senior!
i think i see an end to your/our financial problems. :dance:

i think i see an end to your/our financial problems. :dance:




:haha: Do you think that we should start small and work our way to the top ?

She said peace, I wore her out, she wanna loan my skills out for the time being lol

She gettin old can't keep up with me no mo' :bullseye:



:spank: Naughty Naughty!.....well uh, since we have your Wife's blessings,let me give you my address.....ssssssSIKE!


I bet you're the type that wears socks to bed- black ones.... Yeah, thats real freaky!. You prolly' wear glasses dont'cha? talkin' about some" you gon' feel it now Baby- hold on stay with me, (two minutes later) I wore you out huhn?......."

i think i see an end to your/our financial problems. :dance:


James, if i were single and had hot on my griddle she would need reconstructive surgery, and not on her face lol

James, if i were single and had hot on my griddle she would need reconstructive surgery, and not on her face lol



oooOOOOWEEEEE!.... well, er um..maybe I DO need to see about you, cause I could probably use some fine tuning ya'dig?

:spank: Naughty Naughty!.....well uh, since we have your Wife's blessings,let me give you my address.....ssssssSIKE!


I bet you're the type that wears socks to bed- black ones.... Yeah, thats real freaky!. You prolly' wear glasses dont'cha? talkin' about some" you gon' feel it now Baby- hold on stay with me, (two minutes later) I wore you out huhn?......."


Oh you got jokes... NOT. no glasses or socks. you the one wit' the socks, remember. prolly sittin round in George foreman's boxer shorts :baby:

Sek', James, I'm having fun. I needed this. Thanks.

Sek', James, I'm having fun. I needed this. Thanks.


no problem sistah, my pleasure, it's all in fun

Oh you got jokes... NOT. no glasses or socks. you the one wit' the socks, remember. prolly sittin round in George foreman's boxer shorts :baby:



Never Dat'! Go on over to the Brothas' forum. Read under "What Would You Prefer Your Chick Wear 'Round The House".....You may find out what I lounge in......

yeah, Fester the molester.
every one has an uncle like that in the family.


We do? oh my :spank:

Never Dat'! Go on over to the Brothas' forum. Read under "What Would You Prefer Your Chick Wear 'Round The House".....You may find out what I lounge in......


oh really, do you have pics too lol

oh really, do you have pics too lol




I can see that you're in a frisky mood today- you must have got some finally!......to answer your question No, I don't have any pics- I'm not afraid to say that I am Computer Illiterate.....But I believe the question is Do YOU have any pictures sans the Black socks 'cause that doesn't do it for me?

I can see that you're in a frisky mood today- you must have got some finally!......to answer your question No, I don't have any pics- I'm not afraid to say that I am Computer Illiterate.....But I believe the question is Do YOU have any pictures sans the Black socks 'cause that doesn't do it for me?


hahahahahaha finally got some. Nah, that's never a problem, but I think you finally got some only to find out ya guy needed VIAGRA :welldone:

I bet you wear stockings like they had in Ben Franklins day to bed.

I wanna be paddled..can i be..please please. :spank:

Bending over waiting... come on now

hahahahahaha finally got some. Nah, that's never a problem, but I think you finally got some only to find out ya guy needed VIAGRA :welldone:

I bet you wear stockings like they had in Ben Franklins day to bed.



:laugh: Oh- I see you got them one-liners handy huhn?.....This is definately a different side of you that I'm quite sure all of us has never seen. Something good must have happened to you- Did you win 10,000 Dollars from Steve Harvey?


Never!.....I'm a simple chick-No frills just Thrills. :callme:

Bending over waiting... come on now






:spank: Now Whats My Name? :haha: just jokin'

:laugh: Oh- I see you got them one-liners handy huhn?.....This is definately a different side of you that I'm quite sure all of us has never seen. Something good must have happened to you- Did you win 10,000 Dollars from Steve Harvey?


Never!.....I'm a simple chick-No frills just Thrills. :callme:


:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: , no sistahs, others have seen this side of me, you just haven't bothered to see it before!

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: , no sistahs, others have seen this side of me, you just haven't bothered to see it before!


Na uhn- I beg to differ- You're Mean!....

Bending over waiting... come on now


Can I get behind ya, I'll take what you offering :yo:

Where's James at?... I hope he's getting all this good footage....(me yellin') JaaAMMES!!! Where you at Playa'?........ JAMES-c'mon Man, people are not gonna want ta' pay to see THAT!( he's over there wasting film on a pair of mating dogs).

Sekhemu, what color socks do you got on today?

Sekhemu, what color socks do you got on today?


What color undergarments you got on? lol

What color undergarments you got on? lol



I believe....that I asked....you first.

I believe....that I asked....you first.


Not wearing any lol, your turn!

Not wearing any lol, your turn!




Un huhn I find that very hard to believe Capricorn......are you REALLY Married?

Un huhn I find that very hard to believe Capricorn......are you REALLY Married?


Yep, I am, now answer my question

Yep, I am, now answer my question


Well now.....I don't think that I can proceed..... :dance:

Well now.....I don't think that I can proceed..... :dance:


come on now, live up to your part of the bargain :mad:

come on now, live up to your part of the bargain :mad:



BARGAIN????

BARGAIN????


You said you asked me first about if I had on black socks, I told you, so now your turn, :confused:

You said you asked me first about if I had on black socks, I told you, so now your turn, :confused:



Alright- you got me, I was tryin' ta stall so that I wouldn't feel compelled to tell you that I'm wearing granny pants! There- You Happy? :bye:

Alright- you got me, I was tryin' ta stall so that I wouldn't feel compelled to tell you that I'm wearing granny pants! There- You Happy? :bye:


:haha: :haha: :great:

:haha: :haha: :great:




tahee heee, see, I told you that you couldn't handle me!.

Seeking hoping to find....A lady.

Seeking hoping to find....A lady.

She'll come to you..

Single...looking...but still not ready to make that move.

I am single, never married, no children.

PEACE

I am currently single! Not looking, but hopeful if that makes sense ;) all i know is he "Mr. Right-4-me" better get here soon while I still have my own teefuses and i'm still maintainin my girlish figure :laugh: of course I have baggage, but iss jus a lil carry on...no biggie right :flirt:

been there, done that.
not going to do it again.
i do feel quite sorry for those of you who are out there in the market today.

in all my years i have never seen such negativity so wide spread as today.
don't take it personally, you are operating in a negative environment.
you have to create your own positive space and maintain it.
good luck out there.

been there, done that.
not going to do it again.
i do feel quite sorry for those of you who are out there in the market today.

in all my years i have never seen such negativity so wide spread as today.
don't take it personally, you are operating in a negative environment.
you have to create your own positive space and maintain it.
good luck out there.

Sadly, I agree. I'm not sure what I'm going to do about it, but it looks like my chances for a quality mate are quite slim. :(

Are we really happy here in this lonely game we play?
Understand the reason that we carry on this way

Open your heart and false love can hurt you
Close your heart and true love can not get through

Choices Choices

I will keep my heart open and be strong. When the student is ready...you know the rest.

i do feel quite sorry for those of you who are out there in the market today.in all my years i have never seen such negativity so wide spread as today.don't take it personally, you are operating in a negative environment.you have to create your own positive space and maintain it.good luck out there.

You are right brother James, I'm happily married & reading/hearing this negativity brings me down! You gave excellent advice, it is hard to find happiness in an environment of negativity. If you believe there are no good black men...that there is a male shortage....that there are no conscious sisters....ultimately that becomes a self-fullfilling prophecy, because you act on this belief! It is necessary for people seeking love to adopt a positive attitude. As cliche as it sounds, you do attract what you put out.

Are we really happy here in this lonely game we play?
Understand the reason that we carry on this way

Open your heart and false love can hurt you
Close your heart and true love can not get through

Choices Choices

I will keep my heart open and be strong. When the student is ready...you know the rest.

I try, but it's not at all easy. :(

I try, but it's not at all easy. :(
aww po baby :kiss2: :hearts4:

aww po baby :kiss2: :hearts4:

LOL!! :thanks:

I hear you man. If others think they have a shortage of sistas to pick from, try coming to L.A. You'll get depressed trying to find someone that can actually walk and chew gum at the same time. Every woman out here is the same. The all act a certain way, talk a certain way, dress a certain way and think a certain way. I really want out of this state. You're 100% right Pharaoh Jahil, everyone (including the co-called conscious sistas) are suspect. Hollywood is what you call it and it's like the plague.



:jawdrop: I'm Appalled!...I'm definatley NOT Hollywood!. I'm friendly and talkative. In fact, (i'm about to sound like Intuition MD when I say this but) I am Rare. A lot of people don't believe that I am from Cali let alone Watts, because of my optimistic attitude. I'm not ghetto nor am I a gold digger- this completely throws Men off!.....tsk tsk Kente- I ain't never like any of these chicks walkin' the streets...

I try, but it's not at all easy. :(
But not impossible either. Pwople know how to seek but they forget how to find.

KENTE, if you think it's bad out there, try living in the South.......It's worse :(

That's why I'm heavily considering finding a Caribbean and/or African woman for a potential Queen.

But not impossible either. Pwople know how to seek but they forget how to find.

Trust me when I tell you, it's not as simple as that. I honestly wish it were.

I've grown rather weary of sharing my predicament with others, as I've found that people either trivialize it, or attempt to exploit it (the latter has already been attempted on here).

PEACE

KENTE, if you think it's bad out there, try living in the South.......It's worse :(

That's why I'm heavily considering finding a Caribbean and/or African woman for a potential Queen.
Europe is full of black women, most of whom have a better attitude than the ones in the US.
also check Montreal and Toronto.

locally, many of the more intelligent sisters are to be found on the campus of the colleges, both teachers as well as students.

BTW - Destee lives in the south as does Akilah.
so, there are a few nice ladies down there.

keep your head up.
keep the faith.

Europe is full of black women, most of whom have a better attitude than the ones in the US.
also check Montreal and Toronto.

locally, many of the more intelligent sisters are to be found on the campus of the colleges, both teachers as well as students.

BTW - Destee lives in the south as does Akilah.
so, there are a few nice ladies down there.

keep your head up.
keep the faith.
Maybe I ought to move to the Caribbean or Europe myself. I am invisible here.

You know when a sista looks you right in the face and says she can't find a good black man. You know you pull the dagger out of your chest, look yourself in the mirror and say "there's still hope."

Trust me when I tell you, it's not as simple as that. I honestly wish it were.

I've grown rather weary of sharing my predicament with others, as I've found that people either trivialize it, or attempt to exploit it (the latter has already been attempted on here).

PEACE
That is sad. When someone expresses interest is that exploitation?

The internet is a strange world. We talk to people and feel like we know them when we have never met them. After you've touched a person's mind, which is supposed to be more important, there is still a missing dimension for how you can really know a person.

I didn't know you were in a predicament. I just like to talk to you. That's all I know. And that is all I will say in a public forum.

You know when a sista looks you right in the face and says she can't find a good black man..........
i'm puzzled, as i talk to good black men on a frequent basis.
many of them are single.

most have given up on black women and just go about taking care of their business.

there is a serious disconnect.
a very serious one.

i'm puzzled, as i talk to good black men on a frequent basis.
many of them are single.

most have given up on black women and just go about taking care of their business.

there is a serious disconnect.
a very serious one.
um hm

That puzzles me too. When both genders are saying there are no good pickin's in the other gender somebody has to stop and think. Somebody has to help us redefine what we mean by good

KENTE, if you think it's bad out there, try living in the South.......It's worse :(

That's why I'm heavily considering finding a Caribbean and/or African woman for a potential Queen.

I hear you man. I'm to the point where I'm not even looking for a woman because I'm pretty confident I won't find a good one here. I'll wait until I relocate and then I'll try again. It's pointless right now because their minds are so preoccupied with superficial garbage, that it's not worth commiting to. I just do my thing and have friends that I hang with, but no commitment. No matter how much they try and tell me they are good, and down to earth and trust-worthy, I can see through the lies. Even the women from other countries that come out here adopt the same stupid behavior that American women have. My only option is to go somewhere else.

Somebody has to help us redefine what we mean by good
ladies first!

That is sad. When someone expresses interest is that exploitation?

Oh, no, that's not what I mean.......Without being too specific, I'm speaking about when a person verbalizes that it's not easy to find a suitable mate, all sorts of ignorant comments and insults are hurled your way.

You're a smart lady; I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

The internet is a strange world. We talk to people and feel like we know them when we have never met them. After you've touched a person's mind, which is supposed to be more important, there is still a missing dimension for how you can really know a person.

I agree, yet I have no problem meeting someone using this methodology. However, just was with real life, people need to be more honest about themselves. It's very easy to hide behind a facade on-line......Even thought a person can do the same in real life, they really have to work a little harder at it.

I didn't know you were in a predicament. I just like to talk to you. That's all I know. And that is all I will say in a public forum.

Just the predicament of not being able to find a suitable mate, that's all. I don't see myself as a "lady-magnet", but what women I do meet, never seem to be able to neither appreciate nor reciprocate the qualities that I offer.

Maybe I ought to move to the Caribbean or Europe myself. I am invisible here.

To be honest, I really don't think that this (American/western) society is condusive to forming and maintaining relationships as a whole, let alone and ESPECIALLY Black relationships.

You know when a sista looks you right in the face and says she can't find a good black man. You know you pull the dagger out of your chest, look yourself in the mirror and say "there's still hope."

Yes, but perhaps not in America though. That's why I strive to maintain a global/international mindset; the world is my play pen. I'm not bound by any aspect to the continental boundaries of America. And I wish to meet and TRULY connect with a Queen who feels the same.

But nonetheless, I fully understand the sentiment you made, about how a woman/man can look the opposite in the face, and complain that there are no good men/women out there.

I work in Medical Corporate America, where it's mostly women, and msot of that is Black women......And that's all I hear from them.

This leads me to think that whatever their criteria is for a prospective mate, I'm obvioulsy not it, and I'm through trying to convince them otherwise.

PEACE

i'm puzzled, as i talk to good black men on a frequent basis.
many of them are single.

most have given up on black women and just go about taking care of their business.

there is a serious disconnect.
a very serious one.

I know numerous single Brothers as well........This is why I think that alot of the (mis)representations from society, media and other sources are hurting our mutual image towards each other (sisters and brothers).

And as I stated in my previous post, I think that living in this post-modern Western society has stunted the growth of relationships. Remember, America has the highest divorce rate of any nation in the world PUT TOGETHER.

Single parent families, sexual promiscuity, etc......Where is the Love between Man and Woman being taught?

Europe is full of black women, most of whom have a better attitude than the ones in the US.
also check Montreal and Toronto.

Indeed, Canada is on the list, along with the Caribbean and Africa.

locally, many of the more intelligent sisters are to be found on the campus of the colleges, both teachers as well as students.

I've found the college world to be a little beyond my scope. I felt that way even when I was a college student.

I've been in the Corporate world now for a decade, and most college folk are just getting their bearings--if they are even doing that.

I've tried that route before; I might as well have went to the PJ's to find my Queen. :rolleyes:

BTW - Destee lives in the south as does Akilah.
so, there are a few nice ladies down there.

I do believe that there are SOME good women here past the Mason Dixon, but my ideas and lifestyle makes it difficult, in an ultra-conservative region, to match up with them.

Just like the College thing, believe me, I've tried. I've been here 5 years, and no luck.

keep your head up.
keep the faith.

Believe me, I'm trying, but in the meantime, what I'm also trying, is other methodologies.

There are far too many black women in this world, for me to stay in this predicament (there's that word again).

ladies first!

Yes, I would indeed like to have this term "good" be quantifiably defined, in terms of what our Sisters think of us brothers.

PEACE

I hear you man. I'm to the point where I'm not even looking for a woman because I'm pretty confident I won't find a good one here. I'll wait until I relocate and then I'll try again.

That's me as well. I plan on relocating to Chicago, where I feel a larger metropolitan area, with more "assertive" women will perhaps produce better results.

Ultimately though, my Journey will lead me away from America for good, away from all this madness. So if She's not in Chi-town, then she'll be elsewhere hopefully.

It's pointless right now because their minds are so preoccupied with superficial garbage, that it's not worth commiting to. I just do my thing and have friends that I hang with, but no commitment. No matter how much they try and tell me they are good, and down to earth and trust-worthy, I can see through the lies. Even the women from other countries that come out here adopt the same stupid behavior that American women have. My only option is to go somewhere else.

Your predicament more or less mirrors mine. And so does your conclusion about it as well.

I really do think brothers need to form coalitions about this sort of stuff or something. Perhaps pool our resources towards a common goal?

This also ties into what I said earlier about my being hesitant to talk about it, because I often experience ridicule to varying degrees; people measure a Black Man's manhood on his ability to "get women", and so someone like myself comes up on the short end of this, I'm seen as less than a man, when in reality I'm anything but.

PEACE

By the way, this thread:

http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34512&page=1

Is a fine example of the exploitation of one's predicament that I'm speaking of.

Also, isn't "conscious Negro" an oxymoron?:?:

But I digress......

PEACE

people measure a Black Man's manhood on his ability to "get women".............
that's true and it's wrong.

i once asked a buddy of mine how he kept "getting" so many women.
he said, "man, i go after all those that you reject".

so you see the pimp "gets" women, the playa"gets" women, but look at the women that they get.
would you want them, i think not!

i have always been picky.
as a result i have always had fine sisters.
i have never had an STD and i have never had an unplanned child.
i have had big fun in my day.

it is not the quantity it is the quality.
one fine sister will make you forget about all those you had to step past in order to get to her.

that's true and it's wrong.

i once asked a buddy of mine how he kept "getting" so many women.
he said, "man, i go after all those that you reject".

so you see the pimp "gets" women, the playa"gets" women, but look at the women that they get.
would you want them, i think not!

i have always been picky.
as a result i have always had fine sisters.
i have never had an STD and i have never had an unplanned child.
i have had big fun in my day.

it is not the quantity it is the quality.
one fine sister will make you forget about all those you had to step past in order to get to her.

I hear you 100%, but quantity and quality are both the issues for me.

I'm rather on the discriminate side as well (and I don't necessarily mean with regards to physicality--though that does factor in).

And just like the scenario you mentioned, I know brothers who are far more discriminating than me, and they seem to have the pick of the litter, qualitatively and quantitatively.

What's the secret? :confused:

PEACE

ladies first!
Just you watch me.

I know brothers who are far more discriminating than me, and they seem to have the pick of the litter, qualitatively and quantitatively......

if i were in that situation, i'd become that brothers new best friend.
i would analyze and dissect him until i found out just what he was doing.
most cats are happy to brag and share their techniques.

me, i just walk up and offer to pay their rent, but i hear this doesn't work with the younger sisters.

Just you watch me.
you suppose to define what is a good black man.

if i were in that situation, i'd become that brothers new best friend.
i would analyze and dissect him until i found out just what he was doing.
most cats are happy to brag and share their techniques.

me, i just walk up and offer to pay their rent, but i hear this doesn't work with the younger sisters.

See, that's the thing though; I've tried to do this, but brothers are not only tight-lipped when it comes to revealing their methods, but also stingy when it comes to "sharing the wealth".

I mean, exactly how many women do you REALLY need? :?:

What happened to the days when people used to get mutually introduced? Nobody seems to want to do that anymore.

:(

See, that's the thing though; I've tried to do this, but brothers are not only tight-lipped when it comes to revealing their methods, but also stingy when it comes to "sharing the wealth"......
the "buddy" system worked well for me back in the day.
if it's not happening any more where you are, i would get in the wind and get to a more condusive area.
from Chicago you can access Canada and the west Indies.
sounds like a good choice (if you can keep from getting shot).

the "buddy" system worked well for me back in the day.
if it's not happening any more where you are, i would get in the wind and get to a more condusive area.
from Chicago you can access Canada and the west Indies.
sounds like a good choice (if you can keep from getting shot).

Oh, I'm not moving to the vaunted "South Side" area......I'm living down-town.

Pretty much like Soho in NYC.

PEACE

Oh, no, that's not what I mean.......Without being too specific, I'm speaking about when a person verbalizes that it's not easy to find a suitable mate, all sorts of ignorant comments and insults are hurled your way.

You're a smart lady; I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.


Yes I can put two and two together without a calculator


I agree, yet I have no problem meeting someone using this methodology. However, just was with real life, people need to be more honest about themselves. It's very easy to hide behind a facade on-line......Even thought a person can do the same in real life, they really have to work a little harder at it.



I wonder if a person should work at it at all on line unless/until that other dimension starts cuz they probably have to start all over again anyway knowing the person for real and dealing in situations where you can't just cllick the back button. You can say "I want to see if I want to" but you can't say "I want to." Overstand?


Just the predicament of not being able to find a suitable mate, that's all. I don't see myself as a "lady-magnet", but what women I do meet, never seem to be able to neither appreciate nor reciprocate the qualities that I offer.



Play it again, Sam:lol

Not a "lady-magnet." He's humble that's for sure.


To be honest, I really don't think that this (American/western) society is condusive to forming and maintaining relationships as a whole, let alone and ESPECIALLY Black relationships.


You're right. In America we've been indoctrinated for decades to devalue relationships under material gain and mobility

Yes, but perhaps not in America though. That's why I strive to maintain a global/international mindset; the world is my play pen. I'm not bound by any aspect to the continental boundaries of America. And I wish to meet and TRULY connect with a Queen who feels the same.

But nonetheless, I fully understand the sentiment you made, about how a woman/man can look the opposite in the face, and complain that there are no good men/women out there.

I work in Medical Corporate America, where it's mostly women, and msot of that is Black women......And that's all I hear from them.

This leads me to think that whatever their criteria is for a prospective mate, I'm obvioulsy not it, and I'm through trying to convince them otherwise.

PEACE
Then walk away with your head held high because if you aren't right for them then they probably aren't right for you either.


Yes, I would indeed like to have this term "good" be quantifiably defined, in terms of what our Sisters think of us brothers.

http://www.destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32701

One more quick fix and ya'll just might OD

Ok...first sorry yall i ain't been here too much lately...Bless up everyone on destee...

Anywayz...lol, as of now i am in a relationship with a wonderful brotha...long term...if u want to call it that. But at times i wonder if im ready for something like this, one because im young, and two, the ambitions i've made for myself...and my goals, have always been centered around a single life. How would i adjust them?

Peace out

ps...sis. destee, if u read this post...can u do me a favor and change my name to just prizefighter? cuz imma be 17 in about 10 days...and i don't wanna confuse myself...lol

I wonder if a person should work at it at all on line unless/until that other dimension starts cuz they probably have to start all over again anyway knowing the person for real and dealing in situations where you can't just cllick the back button. You can say "I want to see if I want to" but you can't say "I want to." Overstand?

I UNDERstand. However, I still feel that a society such as this one teaches the pinnacle of mistrust, and thus nearly everyone has something to hide.


Play it again, Sam:lol

Not a "lady-magnet." He's humble that's for sure.

LOL.

Assuming this statement is made in reference to my pics, then I'm flattered.

But in all sincerity, if I truly were anything resembling a "lady-magnet", then this conversation would be null and void--at least on my part.

So please take me at my word. I might be half-way attractive, but if that's all that it took to "score", then I would have the all-time record.

I honestly wish it were that easy.

Then walk away with your head held high because if you aren't right for them then they probably aren't right for you either.

See that's the thing though; I don't necessarily believe that that's always the case.

For the most part, I think that our people (brothers and sisters) are like ships passing in the night; neither truly aware of the qualities of the other.

Haven't you had an impression of somenone, only to find out later that your perception was incorrect in some pleasantly surprising way? Or someone experienced the same/similar thing about you?

Our entire lives--all that we do, feel, think, etc--is based on our perception of the universe around us.....Incuding each other.

PEACE

as of now i am in a relationship with a wonderful brotha...long term......
i don't think a 17yr old needs to be with a brother.
i think a 17yr old needs to be maintaining a 4.0 GPA and thinking about their future.

the reason? at that age you are changing rapidly.
are you the same person you were last year?
do you think you will be the same person 3 years hence?

i was married with a baby at 18.
in 3 years, i was an entirely different person.
i just grew.

that's why you do not get into these situations so soon.

I UNDERstand. However, I still feel that a society such as this one teaches the pinnacle of mistrust, and thus nearly everyone has something to hide.


That's why I try to see people as God sees them. He looks past our faults and sees our needs and He doesn't look at our past but He looks at our purpose. Of course I have to put my foot down sometimes just as God will chastise me whenever I get beside myself.


LOL.

Assuming this statement is made in reference to my pics, then I'm flattered.
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Well we had been conversing for a long time before I saw the pictures. They are gorgeous but they are not the reason I talk to you.


But in all sincerity, if I truly were anything resembling a "lady-magnet", then this conversation would be null and void--at least on my part.

So please take me at my word. I might be half-way attractive, but if that's all that it took to "score", then I would have the all-time record.

I honestly wish it were that easy.


Scoring implies an opposing team. When brothas and sistahs understand that we are on the same team then it won't be so complicated.

See that's the thing though; I don't necessarily believe that that's always the case.

For the most part, I think that our people (brothers and sisters) are like ships passing in the night; neither truly aware of the qualities of the other.

Cuz we be too busy trying to score. And scoring is not necessarily taking someone to bed. It's anytime we get over at someone else's expense.

Haven't you had an impression of somenone, only to find out later that your perception was incorrect in some pleasantly surprising way? Or someone experienced the same/similar thing about you?

Yeeees.It just makes your whole day pretty.

Our entire lives--all that we do, feel, think, etc--is based on our perception of the universe around us.....Incuding each other.

PEACE

Makes your whole universe pretty.

That's why I try to see people as God sees them. He looks past our faults and sees our needs and He doesn't look at our past but He looks at our purpose. Of course I have to put my foot down sometimes just as God will chastise me whenever I get beside myself.

Understood.

I translate this for myself, as enhancing one's perception about all things and people to a Universal level--or at least striving to anyway.

God lives here, but so do I(ndividual), so I don't always get it right--but the will and intent are certainly there.

Well we had been conversing for a long time before I saw the pictures. They are gorgeous but they are not the reason I talk to you.

Fair enough.

I'm only human, but I do think it's "pretty" (as per your verbage) when we are blessed to see the physical site matching the mental/spiritual, when we look at others.

Not that that's always important, but again, we're only human.

Scoring implies an opposing team. When brothas and sistahs understand that we are on the same team then it won't be so complicated.

Please forgive me, as it was not my intent to make such an implication.....Hence my apostropication ("") of the word "score". I know that term was not the best one to use when I chose it; more tongue-in-cheek than anything else.

Matter of fact.....

Cuz we be too busy trying to score. And scoring is not necessarily taking someone to bed. It's anytime we get over at someone else's expense.

OK, how's about I remove the term "score" from the discussion.......A better term that I should have used in place of "score", is "being more successful with members of the opposite sex, on various levels".

I can explain that in more detail, if necessary.

Makes your whole universe pretty.

LOL, just like "scoring", I don't know that "pretty" would necessarily have been the term that I'd use.....

More like "makes your whole universe more enhanced".


:fyi:

i don't think a 17yr old needs to be with a brother.
i think a 17yr old needs to be maintaining a 4.0 GPA and thinking about their future.

the reason? at that age you are changing rapidly.
are you the same person you were last year?
do you think you will be the same person 3 years hence?

i was married with a baby at 18.
in 3 years, i was an entirely different person.
i just grew.

that's why you do not get into these situations so soon.



You're absolutely right...and im not gonna counteract wat u said...because ofcourse you would know more than i...but i cant say that i'll be as likely to fall off...yes i am putting certain things off hold for my schoolwork, im one year from going to college...my goals will still be intact, im not planning on changing them...(im serious not planning on changing them.)...no matter who is in my life. Both he and I have that established. And things probly will change, life changes,,i can understand that, and ...they say love makes u dumb and blind to wats going on around u...but im not inlove...so i know where im going...where im heading...and im glad to say that will not change.


(how many times i said change? lol) gotta go...to next period class....bye

You're absolutely right...and im not gonna counteract wat u said...because of course you would know more than i...but i cant say that i'll be as likely to fall off...yes i am putting certain things off hold for my schoolwork, im one year from going to college...my goals will still be intact, im not planning on changing them...(im serious not planning on changing them.)...no matter who is in my life. Both he and I have that established. And things probably will change, life changes,,i can understand that, and ...they say love makes u dumb and blind to wats going on around u...but im not inlove...so i know where im going...where im heading...and im glad to say that will not change.


(how many times i said change? lol) gotta go...to next period class....bye
just remember that you are growing very rapidly.

allow yourself room to grow.
did you know that he brain does not fully develop until the mid twenties?

i think a lot of young people feel they are grown way too soon.
they deny their selves the opportunity to be a child.
this has serious consequences later on in life.
you've heard of "the mid life crisis"?

when i should have been going to school, i was changing diapers and working a dead end job.
i want you to do better.
go to school, no matter what.
don't stunt your growth.

find what you enjoy doing and then learn how to get paid for doing it.

Understood.

I translate this for myself, as enhancing one's perception about all things and people to a Universal level--or at least striving to anyway.

You talking about sacred geometry now. You talking about the sphere. All points are equal and arbitrary on the sphere. The further away from the center we get the greater the illusion of separateness. Though in reality we are still connected and when one part hurts the whole experiences the pain. When we look at the surface we see the expanse of space between us but when we look at the center we see how it radiates to all points equally.

I didn't find that in a book. It's just a natural conclusion that would occur to anyone who looks at the sphere with a teachable spirit. This is very applicable knowledge.


God lives here, but so do I(ndividual), so I don't always get it right--but the will and intent are certainly there.


None of us always gets it right. A righteous man will fall seven times and rise again. Now that came out of a book.

Fair enough.

I'm only human, but I do think it's "pretty" (as per your verbage) when we are blessed to see the physical site matching the mental/spiritual, when we look at others.

Not that that's always important, but again, we're only human.


I've seen your pictures. Have you seen mine?
Panarama of Da River
http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33635

Please forgive me, as it was not my intent to make such an implication.....Hence my apostropication ("") of the word "score". I know that term was not the best one to use when I chose it; more tongue-in-cheek than anything else.

Matter of fact.....



OK, how's about I remove the term "score" from the discussion.......A better term that I should have used in place of "score", is "being more successful with members of the opposite sex, on various levels".

I can explain that in more detail, if necessary.

You've explained yourself very well.You don't have to ask any other man what his secret is. You have your own secret and every man's secret is his own.


LOL, just like "scoring", I don't know that "pretty" would necessarily have been the term that I'd use.....

More like "makes your whole universe more enhanced".


:fyi:

Yess it sure is

You talking about sacred geometry now. You talking about the sphere. All points are equal and arbitrary on the sphere. The further away from the center we get the greater the illusion of separateness. Though in reality we are still connected and when one part hurts the whole experiences the pain. When we look at the surface we see the expanse of space between us but when we look at the center we see how it radiates to all points equally.

I didn't find that in a book. It's just a natural conclusion that would occur to anyone who looks at the sphere with a teachable spirit. This is very applicable knowledge.

This, my Sister, is the very core of Kemetic Theology. This is how I know God, and how I know Self.

Besides, some of the greatest truths are those that are elusive, that have never been recorded in a book by human hands, and perhaps never will.

This is also the basis of any/all Esoteric spiritual systems.

None of us always gets it right. A righteous man will fall seven times and rise again. Now that came out of a book.

LOL, regardless of from whence it comes, the Truth is Universal. Besides, where did the person who put it in book form get it from?

Truth exsisted before books did.

I've seen your pictures. Have you seen mine?
Panarama of Da River
http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33635

Yes, I have........And unfortunately I also saw your husband in them.......

D@mn, why are all the sisters worth speaking to always taken? :(

Oh well..... :bye:

You've explained yourself very well.You don't have to ask any other man what his secret is. You have your own secret and every man's secret is his own.

Again, I wish it were that simple. Their "secret" is getting them more fulfillment in this aspect, while mine is not.

In my mind's eye, either I'm not understanding my "secret" properly :gossip: or I've gotta get a better "secret" all together. :?:

This, my Sister, is the very core of Kemetic Theology. This is how I know God, and how I know Self.

Besides, some of the greatest truths are those that are elusive, that have never been recorded in a book by human hands, and perhaps never will.

This is also the basis of any/all Esoteric spiritual systems.


Can true spirituality be anything other than esoteric? We jump around and flail our arms about and fall out on the floor when Prophet So and So touches us but after the thrill and chill wears off what's changed? What's left?


LOL, regardless of from whence it comes, the Truth is Universal. Besides, where did the person who put it in book form get it from?

Truth exsisted before books did.


Talk to me. Enlighten your seeking sista.


Yes, I have........And unfortunately I also saw your husband in them.......

D@mn, why are all the sisters worth speaking to always taken? :(

Oh well..... :bye:


I just like that picture but a lot of people on Destee know that on January 25, 2005...

Husband: Why are you leaving me?
River: Because I'm tired of the abuse. I'm tired of the arguments. I'm just tired.
Husband: But see that's just what I'm talking about Baby. All that's going to stop.
River: I know it's going to stop because I am getting out of here.

Because of state law I can't get a divorce until August so he is still technically my husband. But when I left I left and did not bring any "baggage" with me.



Again, I wish it were that simple. Their "secret" is getting them more fulfillment in this aspect, while mine is not.

In my mind's eye, either I'm not understanding my "secret" properly :gossip: or I've gotta get a better "secret" all together. :?:
When the student is ready...you know the rest

Can true spirituality be anything other than esoteric? We jump around and flail our arms about and fall out on the floor when Prophet So and So touches us but after the thrill and chill wears off what's changed? What's left?

You really need to be reading Metu Neter.

Just like the body, the Spirit is a functioning entity, with a plethora of internal mechanisms, just like our stomachs, heart, skeleton, brain, etc for our bodies.

And just like the body cannot/will not function properly without proper nourishment, an adequate exercise regiment, and proper hygenical care, so too will the Spirit not grow its "wings" (no pun) and reach higher heights.

It takes FAR more than just "believing" in something/one. That's just the equivolent of slapping deodorant and/or perfume on a funky behind, talking about "I'm clean".

Talk to me. Enlighten your seeking sista.

Asking specific questions, gets you specific answers...... All channels are open.

I just like that picture but a lot of people on Destee know that on January 25, 2005...

Husband: Why are you leaving me?
River: Because I'm tired of the abuse. I'm tired of the arguments. I'm just tired.
Husband: But see that's just what I'm talking about Baby. All that's going to stop.
River: I know it's going to stop because I am getting out of here.

Because of state law I can't get a divorce until August so he is still technically my husband. But when I left I left and did not bring any "baggage" with me.

Understood.

This reminds me of a saying.........In no way am I making any implications of any sort by stating this, but I was once told that "the last place you want to be, when the right person comes along........Is with the WRONG person".

When the student is ready...you know the rest

I honestly do wish I did KNOW the rest.

PEACE

Before I read your last post while you were typing it I removed that picture. I see that it is confusing. That icon of the little smilie walking away and saying good bye just liked to left me tore up from the floor up.

I noticed that in both the Bible and the Quran believing is a moral rather than an intellectual issue. But the Bible says that faith without works is dead. I will look at what you showed me and see what they say.

Specific questions: Are there exoteric paths to the esoteric spirit and what makes a path condusive to spiritual growth? But you know I kinda answered that when I removed that picture. It was an outward expression of what I claim/want to be inside--a clean break from the past. And yesterday ended last night.

Before I read your last post while you were typing it I removed that picture. I see that it is confusing. That icon of the little smilie walking away and saying good bye just liked to left me tore up from the floor up.

:uhh:

I noticed that in both the Bible and the Quran believing is a moral rather than an intellectual issue. But the Bible says that faith without works is dead. I will look at what you showed me and see what they say.

Yes, and therein lies much of the problem with the Abrahamic legacy of religions; I touched on this in a thread in the Spiritual section, during a discussion with RADICAL (for the life of me, I can't seem to find the thread now, but I know it's there :?: )

Each of these orthodox versions of these systems has an arcane, esoteric counterpart:

Judaism = QABALAH

Christianity = Gnosticism

ISLAM = Sufi

Ironically, the esoteric versions find their derivations in Kemetic and other antiquitous theologies.

The esoteric versions are what these 3 systems started out as being, but time and man, respectively, changed them into the emotion-driven beliefs that they are now:

Judaism = Khazarian Jews

Christianity = Roman/Byzantines

Islam = Post-Muhammadan Caliphates

Once and yet again, history points us to the culprit. This is because spirituality does not occur in a vaccum; all spiritual phenomena takes place in the physical realm.

Thus, we've borne witness to a stunting of human development, on all levels--especially physically, mentally and spiritually.

The 4 DEVILS (ENVY, LUST, GREED and HATE) along with ignorance and fear have kept the masses from ascending on all levels.

Specific questions: Are there exoteric paths to the esoteric spirit and what makes a path condusive to spiritual growth?

This question is like asking: "I'm grossly overweight. Can I lose 200 lbs without doing any exercise or changing my diet?"

Like YODA told LUKE, "you must un-learn all that you have learned, in order to become one with the Force."

This is where the Fear-Factor comes in, especially for our people.

How many people are willing to wipe their Spirits totally clean, and then start fresh on their journey?

But you know I kinda answered that when I removed that picture. It was an outward expression of what I claim/want to be inside--a clean break from the past. And yesterday ended last night.

Wonderful. Now, as I asked above, how far would you be willing to take this "clean break"?

PEACE

:uhh:


Time will tell the story. I could tell it but I know you will listen to what I do not what I say.


Yes, and therein lies much of the problem with the Abrahamic legacy of religions; I touched on this in a thread in the Spiritual section, during a discussion with RADICAL (for the life of me, I can't seem to find the thread now, but I know it's there :?: )

Each of these orthodox versions of these systems has an arcane, esoteric counterpart:

Judaism = QABALAH

Christianity = Gnosticism

ISLAM = Sufi

Ironically, the esoteric versions find their derivations in Kemetic and other antiquitous theologies.

i woulod think those similarities came not so mch from Abraham as from Moses and the time he spent in Pharoah's court.

But the Bible is silent about a lot of things. Like God said that Abraham kept His commandments. What commandments were these seeing that the Law was hundreds of years later?If I remember correctly Abraham lived in Egypt for a while so it is possible he learned from them the ways of Kemet.

Is Kemet theology a natural or I mean self-evident theology that develops in us as what we call spiritual growth without books like the way of the sphere?


The esoteric versions are what these 3 systems started out as being, but time and man, respectively, changed them into the emotion-driven beliefs that they are now:

Judaism = Khazarian Jews

Christianity = Roman/Byzantines

Islam = Post-Muhammadan Caliphates

Once and yet again, history points us to the culprit. This is because spirituality does not occur in a vaccum; all spiritual phenomena takes place in the physical realm.

Thus, we've borne witness to a stunting of human development, on all levels--especially physically, mentally and spiritually.
This stunting seems to be the inevitable outcome of all structured systems.The Church today is all that the scribes and pharisees were in the time of Christ. Muhammed claims to be the last prophet yet we still need a prophet. Or do we?

If we look at this as a linear progression of events we are running on E and don't have enough for gas. If we look at this as a cycle of recurrent events we can say we have been here before. But must we continue with this vicious cycle punctuated by an occassional prophet who gives us a new structured system to mess up?

Or can we turn to the light that is already in us?a

The 4 DEVILS (ENVY, LUST, GREED and HATE) along with ignorance and fear have kept the masses from ascending on all levels.


Those who control the world do not want the masses to ascend on any level for that would mean a dispersion of power.




This question is like asking: "I'm grossly overweight. Can I lose 200 lbs without doing any exercise or changing my diet?"

Like YODA told LUKE, "you must un-learn all that you have learned, in order to become one with the Force."

This is where the Fear-Factor comes in, especially for our people.

How many people are willing to wipe their Spirits totally clean, and then start fresh on their journey?



How do you do that? Have you done that? Is it a prerequisote for gaining spiritual knowledge or can one just allow new knowledge to modify old knowledge until it reflects the truth? How do you know your new knowledge is any better than the old knowledge?

Wonderful. Now, as I asked above, how far would you be willing to take this "clean break"?

PEACE
As far as I need to go that is how far I am willing to go.

I did not tell him where I was going and have not contacted him or spoken to him since I left. When he gets the papers he will know what town I am in but I will use a post office box.

Now will you also wipe your mind clean and not let your thoughts filter through some other man when you talk to me?

HERU-NEFER:

Time will tell the story. I could tell it but I know you will listen to what I do not what I say.

Understood.

i woulod think those similarities came not so mch from Abraham as from Moses and the time he spent in Pharoah's court.

It's far older than Moses. The Hebraic legacy indeed began with Abraham, as they didn't have a solidified, structured written language until they came in contact with the Phoenicians (whom the Bible calls "Canaanites"). That's also where the QABALAH came from.

And, as you stated, Abraham spent time in Kemet, and even (supposedly) took a Kemetic wife.

I should have prefaced all of that, by stating that inter-culturally, that story never adds up; the Kemetians abhorred nomads, as they took more from an established society than they gave back......Not only that, but it's very highly unlikely that the King would have given over a Kemetic woman--even if she was a "hand maiden"--to a lowly wandering Shephard (no where does it state that Abraham was of any royal linneage), considering how Kemet was Matrilinneal and Matriarchial.

Also consider the fact that the Hebrews did not have the custom of circumcision at that time, while for the Kemetians and other Africans proper, that practice was the norm.

It's interesting that the issue doesn't come up until around the time Abraham entertains the notion of being intimate with "HAGAR" (that's not even a Kemetic name).

It is mentioned that an uncircumcized man is unclean (in ancient Africa, if a woman checks a man's genitalia and finds that he's not "cut", she's not having sex with you), and that "GOD" blessed him with the "covenant of circumcision".

This is why it's important to look at ancient writings such as the Bible from an intercultural perspective, and not just a "spiritual" one.

As I'd stated previously, no spiritual phenomenon that takes place on this earth, happens in a vaccum. There is always a physical event that either precedes or proceeds it.

But the Bible is silent about a lot of things. Like God said that Abraham kept His commandments. What commandments were these seeing that the Law was hundreds of years later?If I remember correctly Abraham lived in Egypt for a while so it is possible he learned from them the ways of Kemet.

Precisely, as stated above. But it didn't begin or end with Kemet though; the Hebraic legacy is chock full of Phoenician, Sumerian, Persian, Himyarian, Nubian and even (unfortunately) Greco-Roman and other theologies, philosophies and customs.

People like to point to the Bible as some sort of point of reference or source for spirituality and knowledge of the world, when I'm sorry to say that it is anything but.

The Hebrews were not the center of the world, by a long shot. Most cultures during that time, and in that region saw them as a small, wandering, hapless group of people who were insignificant at best, annoying at medium, and culturally, economically, and intellectually parasitic at worst......And that's IF you can find solidified reports about them to begin with; the Biblical story from a HISTORICAL perspective NEVER reconciles with established history from these other cultures who built monuments and recorded their documents in stone.

Other than the Bible itself (a book written FOR the Hebrews, BY the Hebrews, and TO the Hebrews), there are precious scant few empirical indicators that Moses, Abraham, etc etc even existed.

Nobody questions whether ZEUS, ATHENA, and HERCULES even exsisted from Greek mythology, nor concerning AUSAR (OSIRUS) AUSET (ISIS) and HERU (HORUS) from KEMET.

People intrinsically understand that these are personified metaphors meant to be applied to one's Spirit and spiritual journey.

However, The Abrahamic legacy has been foundated upon taking from the world while giving very little back; the Semitic legacy has convinced the world that they are the most important people in it, while doing very little (quite the opposite, in most cases) to help the world that they lord over.

The 3 exoteric versions of Abraham's legacy (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) has been at the very heart of war, slavery, racism, misogyny, cultural genocide and other horrid, deplorable acts, consecutively and without lapse for the past 2000+ years.

In the meantime, those who follow the esoteric counterparts (Gnostics, Qabalists, and Sufists) have sat back and watched their savage spiritual cousins run rampant upon the earth, using the very same systems that abhors such acts to justify doing them.

Is Kemet theology a natural or I mean self-evident theology that develops in us as what we call spiritual growth without books like the way of the sphere?
I touched on this question a bit a while back in this thread:

http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33656

However, to expound, the short answer to your question is both.

You see, the beauty about societies like Kemet, is that spirituality, once inherently realized, became the theme of the entire society. Everything--EVERYTHING--was a spiritual event.

When a baby was born........When a building was built.........When a man and woman kissed.......When someone wrote something down........When someone ate a meal........When someone greeting someone walking down the street........etc, etc, etc.

All of these were deemed as divine occurences.

The concept of writing is attributed to TEHUTI the "deity" of wisdom. The art of love making is attributed to HET-HERU, the "deity" of love. The science of architecture was attribute to PTAH, the "deity" of science and schematics.

As such, entire schools were built, where priests and priestesses (spiritual teachers of mundane disciplines) led initiates into a greater undertanding of these tasks.

Even the names (attributes) of GOD are in the greetings that people say: HERU-NEFER

SHU-NEFER

Heru is the Divine at the beginning of the day; Shu is the Divine at the end.

There was no such thing as secularism, that the Western (white) world has us living in now.

In ancient societies like Kemet, you couldn't escape spirituality if you tried--if though there were those that did try. Those that rebuked spirituality did so with the understanding that their participation in society would be diminished, and they also accepted their lesser status and regard subsequently.

That person is called the SAHU (which means a spiritual and intellectual SAVAGE).

The difference between a savage now, and a savage then, is that SAVAGES arrogantly attempt to place themselves on par with the intellectual and spiritual elite (kind of like what you see happening here on DESTEE)........Back then, a SAHU would bow to the superiority of who is REQ EM-AB (knows thyself), because without the REQ's, Kemet would not have even exsisted.

There were children, at the age of 9 and 10, who were considered geniuses. Imhotep, the father of medicine and science in Kemet, began his journey at the age of 12.

Thus, if a grown man was a SAHU, and encountered a SAGE who was considerably younger, the adult would tame himself in the presence of the child. He had no choice. Wisdom was always to prevail.

That is the meaning of CIVILIZATION.

With a few exceptions around the world, we have nothing like that in the world today--especially with exoterum running rampant.

This stunting seems to be the inevitable outcome of all structured systems.The Church today is all that the scribes and pharisees were in the time of Christ. Muhammed claims to be the last prophet yet we still need a prophet. Or do we?

Another symptom of the disease of Exoterum. :sick: :puke2:

There will always be men and women of reknown to guide the uninitiated, as long as there are uninitiated people around to need guidance.

Not all truths are meant to be documented; as you stated, the Bible is silent about many things....So is the Qu'ran, I-ching, Pert Em Heru.......I think this is because, as stated before, some truths are elusive, and meant to be actualized along the Journey, not indoctrinated into the left side of the brain of us humans.

Spirituality doesn't work like that--and you can't even provide a historical instance where it has, despite many attempts toward the contrary.

It's not the "taking of God out of school", that has caused the social problems that this society faces.......When was God TRULY in school to begin with?

And for that matter, what GOD?

A GOD whose "apostle" tells you that women shouldn't speak? A GOD that instructs his "chosen people" (a bunch of wandering uncircumcized nomads) to slaughter any tribe that opposed them, and to kill off any women that were not virgins? A GOD that says to bash the head of a disobedient child over the head with a rock? A GOD whose "son" condoned symbolic cannibalism, vampirism, and ritual human sacrifice--practices that, if we were talking about any other religion or culture outside of Judeo-Christianity, we would scream "heathen, pagan, satanic" and any other deplorable title?

A child grows up learning the principles and values--both good and bad--of their elders that they study and imitate. Someone here on Destee (perhaps it was you?) said "example is caught and not taught".

I learn how to treat a woman, based on how I saw my father treat my mother, and other men treat the women around me.

No one is learning spirituality, because TRUE spirituality is not present to be learned.

If we look at this as a linear progression of events we are running on E and don't have enough for gas. If we look at this as a cycle of recurrent events we can say we have been here before. But must we continue with this vicious cycle punctuated by an occassional prophet who gives us a new structured system to mess up?

Or can we turn to the light that is already in us?

This is one of the most astute observations of the spiritual predicament of humanity that I've heard in a while.

EVERYTHING begins from within. If you are not dealing with the Source, you're only dealing with the symptom.

No one has ever cure a common Cold by continuously blowing their nose. The virus that's inside you that is causing the Cold isn't going anywhere until you expouse it from your system. :playball:

Those who control the world do not want the masses to ascend on any level for that would mean a dispersion of power.

:bingo:

This mentality is the biggest obstacle to spiritual ascension; Power, just like wisdom, knowledge--GOD him/herself--belongs to the Universe, from which it permeates to begin with.

How do you do that?

Not to sound cryptic, but again, look to the Source.

Have you done that?

I am doing that, yes. Given the kind of world we live in, this is a perpetual process. Just like striving to keep the virus that causes the Cold out of my system.

Is it a prerequisote for gaining spiritual knowledge or can one just allow new knowledge to modify old knowledge until it reflects the truth?

Can you furnish your home with wonderful new furniture, while you still have the old, broken down couches, futons, and cots still there?

Why would you want the old with the new? If you've been getting by with the old, why do you feel that you would need the new?

Here's the kicker though:

THE NEW IS ACTUALLY THE OLD.

The key is to realize it.

How do you know your new knowledge is any better than the old knowledge?

Because I see it working for me, as I've seen it working for others, past and present.

It's hard for some people to fathom, that Spirituality is actually a precise science; one where if you do this, you will get this as a result.

It's not a hit-and-miss, like the fad-diet that some people treat it as (from an exoteric perspective).

Going back to my health analogy (you have no idea how much the body and spirit operate under the same auspices), we have to exercise (among other things) if we wish to see healthier bodies. It's true, that some people have to work out harder than others, depending upon the individual's inherent (in this case, genetic) disposition, as no one is the same, neither physically nor spiritually.

However, the key to both the body and the soul is the path, not the destination.

If you exercise--and do so PROPERLY and dilligently--results WILL be attained.

That's where the dilligence comes in; the biggest stifle to humanity's development on different levels is their own MIND. Perception is key, and if we do things for the wrong reasons, the CHI/KARMA/HOLY SPIRIT/UNIVERSAL ENERGY (whatever term you wish to use; they are all the same) will have us reap penalty for it, and any "benefits" we receive will only be short-lived.

This is why people find themselves gaining all the weight back, or back-sliding in their spiritual endeavors.

For example, a good 90% of the people who are into "fitness" are only in it because they want to "look good".

I shouldn't have to tell you that this is the absolute WRONG REASON for doing it.

As a result, they live on opposite extremes; on one end, they look for all the shortcuts, or they go to extreme measures to maintain their superficial illusion.

It's the very same thing with exoteric religion. People are only concerned with being "saved", and thus they put in minimal spiritual effort towards their own physical, mental and spiritual trilateral exsistence.

People spend too much time TALKING (praying) to GOD, instead of LISTENING (meditation)......They spend too much time believing, instead of KNOWING.......They spend too much time worrying if they are "saved", instead of utilizing the spiritual tools that were given to us to save ourselves.

Jesus in the Bible stated that "all these things I do, you shall do and MORE".

How many people do you know can heal themselves? Where is their "faith" of being "saved", when they are taking that Insulin shot? Or on chemo-therapy?

Where are the people who can read minds? Can alter their physical structure? And numerous other "miraculous" feats?

You'll only find these performances--with any consistency--in esoteric communities.

"On earth, as it is in heaven".


As far as I need to go that is how far I am willing to go.

That is a gargantuan statement. And not an easy task to undertake.

I did not tell him where I was going and have not contacted him or spoken to him since I left. When he gets the papers he will know what town I am in but I will use a post office box.
Understood.

Now will you also wipe your mind clean and not let your thoughts filter through some other man when you talk to me?

I'm not sure that I fully comprehend the question you are asking here, but I will say that you don't owe me any explanations. People come into our lives for specific reasons, as part of the Grand Design.

As the Native Americans said: "Take what you need, but leave the land as you found it, for those after you will have need of it".

HOTEPU

I'm actually with someone who has everything I've been seeking. We complement each other so well. What one is lackig, the other makes up for. It's great so far! Let's hope it continues this way.

HERU-NEFER:



Understood.



It's far older than Moses. The Hebraic legacy indeed began with Abraham, as they didn't have a solidified, structured written language until they came in contact with the Phoenicians (whom the Bible calls "Canaanites"). That's also where the QABALAH came from.

And, as you stated, Abraham spent time in Kemet, and even (supposedly) took a Kemetic wife.

I should have prefaced all of that, by stating that inter-culturally, that story never adds up; the Kemetians abhorred nomads, as they took more from an established society than they gave back......Not only that, but it's very highly unlikely that the King would have given over a Kemetic woman--even if she was a "hand maiden"--to a lowly wandering Shephard (no where does it state that Abraham was of any royal linneage), considering how Kemet was Matrilinneal and Matriarchial.

Also consider the fact that the Hebrews did not have the custom of circumcision at that time, while for the Kemetians and other Africans proper, that practice was the norm.

It's interesting that the issue doesn't come up until around the time Abraham entertains the notion of being intimate with "HAGAR" (that's not even a Kemetic name).

It is mentioned that an uncircumcized man is unclean (in ancient Africa, if a woman checks a man's genitalia and finds that he's not "cut", she's not having sex with you), and that "GOD" blessed him with the "covenant of circumcision".

This is why it's important to look at ancient writings such as the Bible from an intercultural perspective, and not just a "spiritual" one.

You have just uncovered a direct parallel between the Hebrew/Kemet encounter and the Caucasian/African encounter. They tlearned what they could from those who were better than them then demonized these same peple and set themselvesup as superior.This is exactly what the white man did not only to us but also to the Indians ("America" is a fEuropean name. In fact I half remember reading in a history book from my school days that the continent was named after this guy on Columbus' sHip named Amerigo. So calling them "Native Americans" reduces them to contingents of European history and denies whatever history they had before Columbus. When it is clear from their phenotype that they do have an Indio/Asian extraction.)



As I'd stated previously, no spiritual phenomenon that takes place on this earth, happens in a vaccum. There is always a physical event that either precedes or proceeds it.


So no book can ever be the original source of its contents. Even a word is just the by product of the thought it expresses. The more complex the conceptualization/documentation of knowledge the further away from the center it is.That's why all structured systems move away from what they were meant to be and flaunder about on the surface where they separate in strife. Still waters run deep. still waters run to the center.

Why does everything you teach me fit together so nicely? I can't get away from that sphere. It touches everything.


However, The Abrahamic legacy has been foundated upon taking from the world while giving very little back; the Semitic legacy has convinced the world that they are the most important people in it, while doing very little (quite the opposite, in most cases) to help the world that they lord over.

The 3 exoteric versions of Abraham's legacy (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) has been at the very heart of war, slavery, racism, misogyny, cultural genocide and other horrid, deplorable acts, consecutively and without lapse for the past 2000+ years.

People talk about antisemitism like it's the most heineous crime in the world but nobody complains about antihamitism (in fact I may have just made that word up) to anywhere near such an extent.


In the meantime, those who follow the esoteric counterparts (Gnostics, Qabalists, and Sufists) have sat back and watched their savage spiritual cousins run rampant upon the earth, using the very same systems that abhors such acts to justify doing them.

These groups have been marginalized as heretic. I don't know too much about their theology but I would guess that their teachings don't serve the purposes of those who want to rule the world. Too much poWer to the masses I guess.




I touched on this question a bit a while back in this thread:

http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33656

However, to expound, the short answer to your question is both.

You see, the beauty about societies like Kemet, is that spirituality, once inherently realized, became the theme of the entire society. Everything--EVERYTHING--was a spiritual event.

When a baby was born........When a building was built.........When a man and woman kissed.......When someone wrote something down........When someone ate a meal........When someone greeting someone walking down the street........etc, etc, etc.

All of these were deemed as divine occurences.

The concept of writing is attributed to TEHUTI the "deity" of wisdom. The art of love making is attributed to HET-HERU, the "deity" of love. The science of architecture was attribute to PTAH, the "deity" of science and schematics.

As such, entire schools were built, where priests and priestesses (spiritual teachers of mundane disciplines) led initiates into a greater undertanding of these tasks.

Even the names (attributes) of GOD are in the greetings that people say: HERU-NEFER

SHU-NEFER

Heru is the Divine at the beginning of the day; Shu is the Divine at the end.

There was no such thing as secularism, that the Western (white) world has us living in now.

I was wondering about the etymological connection between love and morning in Kemet. I guess that's why so many men come into their own in the early hours of the morning when the sun (Horus) is rising. That is a natural theology. Life itself is the book in which it is recorded.

In ancient societies like Kemet, you couldn't escape spirituality if you tried--if though there were those that did try. Those that rebuked spirituality did so with the understanding that their participation in society would be diminished, and they also accepted their lesser status and regard subsequently.

That person is called the SAHU (which means a spiritual and intellectual SAVAGE).

The difference between a savage now, and a savage then, is that SAVAGES arrogantly attempt to place themselves on par with the intellectual and spiritual elite (kind of like what you see happening here on DESTEE)........Back then, a SAHU would bow to the superiority of who is REQ EM-AB (knows thyself), because without the REQ's, Kemet would not have even exsisted.

This is the price we pay for living in that political illusion we call democracy. Envy is the birthchild of equality. You're no better than I am so why should you have anything good. I don't have to fight to be equal to a man. I know that if I lift him up I will rise as well.


There were children, at the age of 9 and 10, who were considered geniuses. Imhotep, the father of medicine and science in Kemet, began his journey at the age of 12.

Thus, if a grown man was a SAHU, and encountered a SAGE who was considerably younger, the adult would tame himself in the presence of the child. He had no choice. Wisdom was always to prevail.

That is the meaning of CIVILIZATION.

With a few exceptions around the world, we have nothing like that in the world today--especially with exoterum running rampant.


Somebody asked Ghandi what he thought of western civilization. He said he thought it would be a good idea.

Another symptom of the disease of Exoterum. :sick: :puke2:

There will always be men and women of reknown to guide the uninitiated, as long as there are uninitiated people around to need guidance.

Not all truths are meant to be documented; as you stated, the Bible is silent about many things....So is the Qu'ran, I-ching, Pert Em Heru.......I think this is because, as stated before, some truths are elusive, and meant to be actualized along the Journey, not indoctrinated into the left side of the brain of us humans.

Spirituality doesn't work like that--and you can't even provide a historical instance where it has, despite many attempts toward the contrary.

It's not the "taking of God out of school", that has caused the social problems that this society faces.......When was God TRULY in school to begin with?

We're on the same page.

And for that matter, what GOD?

A GOD whose "apostle" tells you that women shouldn't speak? A GOD that instructs his "chosen people" (a bunch of wandering uncircumcized nomads) to slaughter any tribe that opposed them, and to kill off any women that were not virgins? A GOD that says to bash the head of a disobedient child over the head with a rock?


I want to say you are wrong. I want to say let us part company here. But I can not for even the Bible itself says that you are right

"How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain." Jeremiah 8:8

The word translated "vain" is "shaqer" which means deception, fraud, wrong, betray

When we read the things God supposedly told Israel to do to people we always focus on the esoteric meaning of how God will deliver us from our spiritual enemies. But when I look at the literal text I wonder if anyone else ask how god can deliver Israel from enemies who would not be their enemies if they weren't trying to take their land. Like the knight who came to his king talking about conquering his enemies to the south. The king said "What!? I don't have any enemies to the south." The knight said "you do now."

A GOD whose "son" condoned symbolic cannibalism, vampirism, and ritual human sacrifice--practices that, if we were talking about any other religion or culture outside of Judeo-Christianity, we would scream "heathen, pagan, satanic" and any other deplorable title?
That is not my understanding of what Jesus taught/

A child grows up learning the principles and values--both good and bad--of their elders that they study and imitate. Someone here on Destee (perhaps it was you?) said "example is caught and not taught".

I learn how to treat a woman, based on how I saw my father treat my mother, and other men treat the women around me.

No one is learning spirituality, because TRUE spirituality is not present to be learned.


Nobody understands what true spirituality is.Most people either follow a false spirituality based on emotions or they reject spirituality altogether as emotionalism. Thay don't know what it is.




Not to sound cryptic, but again, look to the Source.

The source of the problem or the source of the solution?
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I am doing that, yes. Given the kind of world we live in, this is a perpetual process. Just like striving to keep the virus that causes the Cold out of my system.

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Yes it's a process not an event.Not a goal but the modus operanda process for reaching any goal.
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Can you furnish your home with wonderful new furniture, while you still have the old, broken down couches, futons, and cots still there?

Why would you want the old with the new? If you've been getting by with the old, why do you feel that you would need the new?

Here's the kicker though:

THE NEW IS ACTUALLY THE OLD.

The key is to realize it.

I actually understand what you are saying



You'll only find these performances--with any consistency--in esoteric communities.

And where do I find an esoteric community? I mean one that 's not being investigated by the FBI?



That is a gargantuan statement. And not an easy task to undertake.


The other day you told me I was a smart lady. Trust me to know this.

i don't think a 17yr old needs to be with a brother.
i think a 17yr old needs to be maintaining a 4.0 GPA and thinking about their future.

the reason? at that age you are changing rapidly.
are you the same person you were last year?
do you think you will be the same person 3 years hence?

i was married with a baby at 18.
in 3 years, i was an entirely different person.
i just grew.

that's why you do not get into these situations so soon.


OK Brotha James...i get wat ur saying...tho, i am maintaining my 3.7 GPA...and my future is already laid out...

I don't see myself as in a "situation", because i have not wrapped my life around my relationship. In fact, the only reason i have allowed myself to even think of having one...is because time and leisure has permitted me to. Now, when in fact the relationship starts to get in the way of certain things important to me...it will have to be evaluated. Until then...I don't want to run away from it. Yes i will go to college and graduate school, I will still join the peace corp. I will still live in Jamaica for a year. I will still fight to get my family over here. I will still write as much books as my penmanship can permit me. I will still travel across africa, learn more about my culture...My dreams are not going to be deferred by anything...lol, does that sound selfish? I think i am allowed one year of being a little selfish...

But the point is...im not going to stray...well as of today...and surely tomorrow, i won't....I'll give it a couple months and see.

But thanks for caring that much... :)

HERU-NEFER RIVER:

You have just uncovered a direct parallel between the Hebrew/Kemet encounter and the Caucasian/African encounter. They tlearned what they could from those who were better than them then demonized these same peple and set themselvesup as superior.This is exactly what the white man did not only to us but also to the Indians ("America" is a fEuropean name. In fact I half remember reading in a history book from my school days that the continent was named after this guy on Columbus' sHip named Amerigo. So calling them "Native Americans" reduces them to contingents of European history and denies whatever history they had before Columbus. When it is clear from their phenotype that they do have an Indio/Asian extraction.)

This is the "gentleman" that you speak of:

AMERIGO VESPUCCI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci)

In the Western New World, "explorer" is just another name for "Conquerer".

The same was said for the word "Nomad" in ancient times.


So no book can ever be the original source of its contents. Even a word is just the by product of the thought it expresses. The more complex the conceptualization/documentation of knowledge the further away from the center it is.That's why all structured systems move away from what they were meant to be and flaunder about on the surface where they separate in strife. Still waters run deep. still waters run to the center.

This is raw, pure, unadulterated Esoterum at its finest.

Why does everything you teach me fit together so nicely? I can't get away from that sphere. It touches everything.

Just remember; the relationship between student and teacher is always a mutual one.

People talk about antisemitism like it's the most heineous crime in the world but nobody complains about antihamitism (in fact I may have just made that word up) to anywhere near such an extent.

LOL, I don't know whether this is a "new" phrase or not, but I would suggest that you get a patent for it, because as accurate as it is, it's bound to catch on fairly quickly.

These groups have been marginalized as heretic. I don't know too much about their theology but I would guess that their teachings don't serve the purposes of those who want to rule the world. Too much poWer to the masses I guess.

The reality is though, that you DO know "muhc about their theology". You've been pontificating on it for the past couple of pages.

I was wondering about the etymological connection between love and morning in Kemet. I guess that's why so many men come into their own in the early hours of the morning when the sun (Horus) is rising. That is a natural theology. Life itself is the book in which it is recorded.

You need wonder no longer; this is an actual aspect of both Metu Neter and Shetaut Neter (especially the latter).

The Ra (life force) that travels through us all (especially males in this instance) is tied intrinsically to the movements of the sun throughout the course of the day.

I asked a couple of "Muslims" on here (not naming names :rolleyes:) if they knew why they were prescribed by Islam to pray 5 to 7 times a day......There's a scientific, physiological, and deeply esoteric reasoning for praying in sync with the daily path of the sun on the horizon.

But just like most ignorant (re: lacking knowledge) religious believers, they simply do it because "ALLAH told them to)......Which is not a good reason, IMO.


Doing something with a full knowledge of why it is being done, and the benefits/reprocussions of doing it, makes for a much more fulfilling experience.

This is the price we pay for living in that political illusion we call democracy. Envy is the birthchild of equality. You're no better than I am so why should you have anything good. I don't have to fight to be equal to a man. I know that if I lift him up I will rise as well.

This was what it meant that various societies of our People were Matrilienial and Matriarchial. Contrary to the ignorant remarks made in the Matriarchy thread, matriarchy is not the opposite to patriarchy, where the women lord over men as the men do now.

It was the appreciation of the woman's intellect, wisdom, and nuturing capabilities.

Without it, you would never have seen a single Benu-Benu (pyramid), a Herakhti (Sphinx), or any of the other grand monuments in Kemet, or any other advanced spiritual and intellectual society.

Somebody asked Ghandi what he thought of western civilization. He said he thought it would be a good idea.

It's interesting that you mention Ghandhi here......I could tell you something about him--documented things that show and prove that he was far from the "saint" that history portrays him as.

I actually had a paper saved to my old computer, but that was lost in the fire :(

Suffice it to say, Ghandhi didn't like Blacks, and was a suck-up to the White man.


I want to say you are wrong. I want to say let us part company here. But I can not for even the Bible itself says that you are right

"How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain." Jeremiah 8:8

The word translated "vain" is "shaqer" which means deception, fraud, wrong, betray

When we read the things God supposedly told Israel to do to people we always focus on the esoteric meaning of how God will deliver us from our spiritual enemies. But when I look at the literal text I wonder if anyone else ask how god can deliver Israel from enemies who would not be their enemies if they weren't trying to take their land. Like the knight who came to his king talking about conquering his enemies to the south. The king said "What!? I don't have any enemies to the south." The knight said "you do now."

I was wondering when I typed that, how you were going to respond to it......Let's just say I'm pleasantly surprised.

Not many people do very well when getting a shock like that to their system--especially when it comes to the Bible, something they see as completely untennable.

However, I find that the people who resist such information are those who have never even fully read the Bible.

How can you "BELIEVE" in something that you've never even read? :confused:

That is not my understanding of what Jesus taught/

I was also wondering, beyond all of the above, how you were going to perceive this point as well.

I also realized that this would require some clarification on my part.

let me preface this by saying that that's not how I understand his teachings either.

My point was more to the perceptions duplicitous of people, and not the teachings being perceived.....

The very same teachings of Jesus ("take, eat"; ritual sacrifice)--at least in this aspect, are the very same things that Judeo-Christianity frowns upon, when Wiccan and other certified "Pagan" theologies perform the same ceremonies.

The same teachings that we find in Kemet (where much of Jesus' theology came from), Sumeria, the Native Americas and other places.

However, all of these places, their cultures and theologies, have become quited demonized, utilizing various methods of "Anti-Hamitism" (seriously, get a patent for that :deal: ), by way of both religious and academic institutions.

Thus, it's not Jesus's teachings that are at fault, it's how they are perceived by the rest of the world, against the identical teachings of other faiths.

For example, Christians can have a "trinity" and still be monotheistic, yet Kemetic Metu/Shetaut Neter and Hinduism have the very same, and they are considered "pagan"??

WTF? :confused:

Nobody understands what true spirituality is.Most people either follow a false spirituality based on emotions or they reject spirituality altogether as emotionalism. Thay don't know what it is.
[QUOTE]

My statements immediately above serve as the perfect segue to your statement here.

My statements seem to serve as the prognosis for the world's issues, while yours as the diagnosis......Hmm, interesting. :thinking:

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Not to sound cryptic, but again, look to the Source.

The source of the problem or the source of the solution?


Both. They are one and the same.

And where do I find an esoteric community? I mean one that 's not being investigated by the FBI?

LOL! :lol: Well, this is where that international persepective comes in..... We've already established that for various reasons (one of which being surveillanced as you inferred here), this society is not condusive to free-thinking intellectual and spiritual development.

But that doesn't mean that no where else in this world is either.

The movie 7 YEARS IN TIBET comes to mind.......Not saying that that's necessarily the route meant for you, but just showing that there are always options--espcecially if you are indeed "willing to go as far as you need to".

The other day you told me I was a smart lady. Trust me to know this.

The depths of which are rather impressive, to say the least.

SHEM HOTEPET SHEQHETI.

We have hi-jacked this thread you know. Maybe Destee could give us our own forum called The Wisdom of Heru.

HERU-NEFER RIVER:



This is the "gentleman" that you speak of:

AMERIGO VESPUCCI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci)

In the Western New World, "explorer" is just another name for "Conquerer".

The same was said for the word "Nomad" in ancient times.


Is this not why they set up the so-called state of Israil in 1948 to comemorate the brotherhood of the conquerors?

I have a question. Of the sons of Noah we see Ham=The Black man, Shem=the Brown man and Japheth=the Yellow man. Where is the White man? What ancestors has he?

This is raw, pure, unadulterated Esoterum at its finest.


Natural theology works that way.


Just remember; the relationship between student and teacher is always a mutual one.

That's why we shouldn't hide behind trees cuz then the tree will be the only thing that's growing.



The reality is though, that you DO know "muhc about their theology". You've been pontificating on it for the past couple of pages.


Gee and I'm just starting out. Then again like you say below I had the diagnosis already. Only with the cutting sword of the Samurai warrior have I had the bodacity to partake of a prognosis I'd been taught was poison


You need wonder no longer; this is an actual aspect of both Metu Neter and Shetaut Neter (especially the latter).

The Ra (life force) that travels through us all (especially males in this instance) is tied intrinsically to the movements of the sun throughout the course of the day.

I asked a couple of "Muslims" on here (not naming names :rolleyes:) if they knew why they were prescribed by Islam to pray 5 to 7 times a day......There's a scientific, physiological, and deeply esoteric reasoning for praying in sync with the daily path of the sun on the horizon.

This could easily be seen as idolatry--sun worship. But when you explain it to me I understand that it is just knowledge of how the Creator designed the universe to operate harmoniously. Just like your words are an expression of your mind that I can perceive and understand. Right now your words are all that I have just like the sun is all we have. If a man looks straight through the sun will he see God?

I remember also when Info moetry explained to me what ya'll meant when you called yourselves gods. I can't recall his exact words at present but I remember understanding what he was saying and not having a problem with it.

But just like most ignorant (re: lacking knowledge) religious believers, they simply do it because "ALLAH told them to)......Which is not a good reason, IMO.


Doing something with a full knowledge of why it is being done, and the benefits/reprocussions of doing it, makes for a much more fulfilling experience.

I've never been able to sit tight under a ministry that teaches blind obedience. Don't think just do what I say God said for you to do. :uhh: No no..


This was what it meant that various societies of our People were Matrilienial and Matriarchial. Contrary to the ignorant remarks made in the Matriarchy thread, matriarchy is not the opposite to patriarchy, where the women lord over men as the men do now.

It was the appreciation of the woman's intellect, wisdom, and nuturing capabilities.

Without it, you would never have seen a single Benu-Benu (pyramid), a Herakhti (Sphinx), or any of the other grand monuments in Kemet, or any other advanced spiritual and intellectual society.

And if we can attain this mutuality without striving for equality we can build something.


It's interesting that you mention Ghandhi here......I could tell you something about him--documented things that show and prove that he was far from the "saint" that history portrays him as.

I actually had a paper saved to my old computer, but that was lost in the fire :(

Suffice it to say, Ghandhi didn't like Blacks, and was a suck-up to the White man.



Some people think the same way about King. My cousin was telling me that the government paid him to march on Wahington. Moved the cars out the way and everything. But she is a stone Muslim so I don't know if she just has a bias.

I was wondering when I typed that, how you were going to respond to it......Let's just say I'm pleasantly surprised.

Not many people do very well when getting a shock like that to their system--especially when it comes to the Bible, something they see as completely untennable.

However, I find that the people who resist such information are those who have never even fully read the Bible.

How can you "BELIEVE" in something that you've never even read? :confused:


Nothing shocks me. I am unshockable

My uncle told me about one day he was in a bookstore and saw a book whose title he strongly disagreed with. His first reaction was to march out of there in indignation. But he said to himself wait a minute. You don't come to be a wise man by rejecting knowledge. So he bought the book and read it even though he disagreed with the title. That's the principle problem with structured systems. They all have titles to distinguish them from each other. So people judge others by what they call themselves.

I look beyond the title when I talk to Samurai. That's why he has not said one single word from which I have not learned something.

I was also wondering, beyond all of the above, how you were going to perceive this point as well.

I also realized that this would require some clarification on my part.

let me preface this by saying that that's not how I understand his teachings either.

My point was more to the perceptions duplicitous of people, and not the teachings being perceived.....

The very same teachings of Jesus ("take, eat"; ritual sacrifice)--at least in this aspect, are the very same things that Judeo-Christianity frowns upon, when Wiccan and other certified "Pagan" theologies perform the same ceremonies.

The same teachings that we find in Kemet (where much of Jesus' theology came from), Sumeria, the Native Americas and other places.

I know the Catholics teach the communion bread and wine are actually Jesus' body and blood. But in the Evangelical/protestant Church we understand that this sacrement is just a way to focus our minds on what He did for us on the cross. This do in rememberance of Me.

His death on the cross is not the same as what we call human sacrifice. Human sacrifice is when an unsuspecting person is grabbed by a mob like "Uncle God Wants You." But in the case of Jesus He knew what would happen and had come to the Earth for that very purpose. He said no one takes My life but I lay it down Greater love has no man than that he lay down his life for his friends.

However, all of these places, their cultures and theologies, have become quited demonized, utilizing various methods of "Anti-Hamitism" (seriously, get a patent for that :deal: ), by way of both religious and academic institutions.

Thus, it's not Jesus's teachings that are at fault, it's how they are perceived by the rest of the world, against the identical teachings of other faiths.

For example, Christians can have a "trinity" and still be monotheistic, yet Kemetic Metu/Shetaut Neter and Hinduism have the very same, and they are considered "pagan"??

WTF? :confused:


"WTF" cussing on the sly.

Some peopl need a Samurai soldier at arms to teach them where the center reall is.



My statements immediately above serve as the perfect segue to your statement here.

My statements seem to serve as the prognosis for the world's issues, while yours as the diagnosis......Hmm, interesting. :thinking:


Would you help me with a project? I am a website designer. I can make a website fly. Let's put together a site to educate people about Kemet. It would have everything: history, theology, ideology, practice, relevance for the Black man today whatevah. Why do I want to do this? Because teaching is the best way to learn and it will give me the impetus to really dig into this subject. Like my father said he went into psychiatry because he couldn't afford a psychiatrist.



LOL! :lol: Well, this is where that international persepective comes in..... We've already established that for various reasons (one of which being surveillanced as you inferred here), this society is not condusive to free-thinking intellectual and spiritual development.

But that doesn't mean that no where else in this world is either.

The movie 7 YEARS IN TIBET comes to mind.......Not saying that that's necessarily the route meant for you, but just showing that there are always options--espcecially if you are indeed "willing to go as far as you need to".



Let's see the midnight train will take me to a place where ain't no smiling faces uh uh uh uh lying to the races. Take me there.
:LOL:

We have hi-jacked this thread you know. Maybe Destee could give us our own forum called The Wisdom of Heru.

I think this thread had more or less reached it's zenith anyway. Even a caterpillar transforms for its own good.

Is this not why they set up the so-called state of Israil in 1948 to comemorate the brotherhood of the conquerors?

Haha, the legacy of the Nomad is strengthened by the Destinus Manifesto. :rolleyes:

I have a question. Of the sons of Noah we see Ham=The Black man, Shem=the Brown man and Japheth=the Yellow man. Where is the White man? What ancestors has he?

This is why I choose not to look for the historical origins of Man in that book, because of the cultural bias that begins and ends within it.

However, I'll indulge your question just the same:

Many of the YORK school of thought, like to make CANAAN the "bad guy", and turn him into the father of the "Pale Man".

However, seeing as how Canaan comes directly from Ham's lineage, and no real reason for Canaan's "curse" (which they teach is the curse of leprosy or Albinism) is given, other than as a legacy for his father's trangressions, I'm not one to take this much with a grain of salt.

Again, we have the Biblical view, which often times (rather almost ALL the time) does not run congruent or parallel with actual history.......And then the actual Historical view.

If we even follow any of this, from the earliest points in time till now, the planet earth would only be about 7,000 years old.

Poppy-****.

The Sphinx is some 9,000 years by itself. The Grand Canyon is 12,000. What, was the Sphinx just floating around in outer space, before the "Spirit of the Lord moved over the waters"?

Did God dig a huge trench in the vast chasm of nothingness, and then create the earth around it?

In reality, given the cultural bias within the Bible, I'm one to take the Semitic presence as as the Johnny-come-lately.....

It states that by the time Abraham came into his own (whatever that was), Nubians (Ku****es and Hamites) already had cities, languages, and borders. This certainly seems to coincide with actual history, since African development was not only advanced come the time of the Semite, but the former also laid the foundation for the latter.

As stated a couple of posts earlier, look at everywhere that Abraham (the Patriarch of all Semites) ventured; everywhere Nubians were.

Nonetheless, I have long since rebuked seeing the history of Man through Biblical eyes; what better a method, than to see these peoples through their their own eyes and perspectives?

Do you think that Asians of Tibet, Mongolia, etc care that the Bible calls the "Japhetites"? Do you think that's what they call themselves?


Natural theology works that way.

That's why we shouldn't hide behind trees cuz then the tree will be the only thing that's growing.

LMAO!! Hopefully you can see that I'm done with that whole hiding bit. :blush:

Gee and I'm just starting out. Then again like you say below I had the diagnosis already. Only with the cutting sword of the Samurai warrior have I had the bodacity to partake of a prognosis I'd been taught was poison

I'd swear that, with statements like this, you'd been reading the HAGAKURE.

(I hear the question coming, so here it is: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=lU2KR3SBVv&isbn=4770011067&itm=1 )

More on that later though.

This could easily be seen as idolatry--sun worship.

This was the duplicity that I speak of, when people look at various systems through biased eyes.

But when you explain it to me I understand that it is just knowledge of how the Creator designed the universe to operate harmoniously.

Precisely, but even beyond, there is an explainable, quantifiable reasoning, aside from just the poetic pontifications. The same principle is present within TAI-CHI, as within Islamic prayer.

Just like your words are an expression of your mind that I can perceive and understand. Right now your words are all that I have just like the sun is all we have. If a man looks straight through the sun will he see God?

There's that elusive truth again; "HERU as the sun rises"......."AUSET, as she suckles her calf"......."SET (SATAN) as he devours a hapless beast in the desert".

I remember also when Info moetry explained to me what ya'll meant when you called yourselves gods. I can't recall his exact words at present but I remember understanding what he was saying and not having a problem with it.

INFO and I are pretty much on the same page when it comes to this, so I'll expound in my own words--let me know if it's synonomous:

The God within my-Self addresses the God within his-Self. "SAMURAI36" and "INFO-MOETRY" (not our real names, but I don't know his, so I just inserted our screen names) are just attributes that the Divine goes by, as he/she assumes an identity within the Physical Realm.......An "alter-ego" of sorts.

I am God, but I am not all that God is.

I am a cup of water dipped from the ocean. That small amount of water in that cup is still the ocean, about that's not all the ocean is.

The same in quality, just not in quantity.

I've never been able to sit tight under a ministry that teaches blind obedience. Don't think just do what I say God said for you to do. :uhh: No no..

Me neither, and it saddens me that others are so willing to do so.

And if we can attain this mutuality without striving for equality we can build something.

Precisely; this is the diametric nature of perception; being able to bear witness to the similarities and the differences at the same time, and not seeing a conflict between the two.

Our ancestors have done this (re: Kemet), and we have the capability to do it again, lest you and I wouldn't be conversing about right now.

Some people think the same way about King. My cousin was telling me that the government paid him to march on Wahington. Moved the cars out the way and everything. But she is a stone Muslim so I don't know if she just has a bias.

Bias aside, there are equally things about King that I could tell you, as with Ghandhi.

In addition to what your sister stated, take notice to the personalities in the "I HAVE A DREAM" video speech, next chance you get.

Not to mention the whole Jesse Jackson fiasco; all of them being Boule'.......Check out Steve Cokeley's works on the matter as well.

Nothing shocks me. I am unshockable

My uncle told me about one day he was in a bookstore and saw a book whose title he strongly disagreed with. His first reaction was to march out of there in indignation. But he said to himself wait a minute. You don't come to be a wise man by rejecting knowledge. So he bought the book and read it even though he disagreed with the title. That's the principle problem with structured systems. They all have titles to distinguish them from each other. So people judge others by what they call themselves.

I've found myself doing this as well.

To quote YODA from the latest movie:

"Fear leads to the Dark Side".


I look beyond the title when I talk to Samurai. That's why he has not said one single word from which I have not learned something.

Again, I'm reminded of the book HAGAKURE.

I honestly think, as with most things, people have a misperception of the Way of the Samurai.

Contrary to popular belief, he was not this bloodthirsty warrior, chopping heads off as he walked through life.

The true Way of the Samurai is one of Peace. Samurai's are Buddhists first and foremost, who strive to never unsheath their sword unless they absolutely have to.

Have you seen the movie LAST SAMURAI (starring Tom Cruise)? That movie more or less accurately portrays the character of a Samurai.

I know the Catholics teach the communion bread and wine are actually Jesus' body and blood. But in the Evangelical/protestant Church we understand that this sacrement is just a way to focus our minds on what He did for us on the cross. This do in rememberance of Me.

Understood.

His death on the cross is not the same as what we call human sacrifice.


I don't know that I totally see this in the same way that you do......

Human sacrifice is when an unsuspecting person is grabbed by a mob like "Uncle God Wants You."

Perhaps in the Proto-Judeo-Christian exoteric discipline, or even a misnomer portrayed by Hollywood and other mediums, but most human sacrifices consisted of willing participants.

But in the case of Jesus He knew what would happen and had come to the Earth for that very purpose. He said no one takes My life but I lay it down Greater love has no man than that he lay down his life for his friends.

My understanding of the Scriptural passages in question, is that he knew of the sacrifice that he had to make, but was not totally at peace with it......

Paraphrasing: "Father, be it thy will, remove this cup from me......"

"WTF" cussing on the sly.

LOL.

Some peopl need a Samurai soldier at arms to teach them where the center reall is.

Again, The Samurai wasn't necessarily a Soldier, even though he bore arms.

There's a great Samurai named MUSASHI MYAMOTO; he was called the "greatest warrior ever lived".......Despite the Tall tales and movies attributed to his name, the reality is, his claim to fame was that he never lost a fight--BECAUSE HE WAS NEVER IN ONE.

Which do you think sounds more interesting to the SAHU: the sensationalism of never losing a fight, or the spiritual reality of never being in one?

I don't think they'd sell too many movies about the latter.

Would you help me with a project? I am a website designer. I can make a website fly. Let's put together a site to educate people about Kemet. It would have everything: history, theology, ideology, practice, relevance for the Black man today whatevah. Why do I want to do this? Because teaching is the best way to learn and it will give me the impetus to really dig into this subject. Like my father said he went into psychiatry because he couldn't afford a psychiatrist.

Perhaps you might be interested in making the site that I have better to that very end: CRADLE TO THE GRAVE (http://cradle2dagrave.proboards36.com)

Or not.

Starting from scratch is not the worst thing; I've learned this recently myself.

Let's see the midnight train will take me to a place where ain't no smiling faces uh uh uh uh lying to the races. Take me there.
:LOL:

LOL!! :dance1:

PEACE

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I must go pay my phone bill. when I get back I will holla atcha bout all this good stuff.

We have hi-jacked this thread you know. Maybe Destee could give us our own forum called The Wisdom of Heru...........
you people ever hear about private messages?........and the telephone? :sleep:

you people ever hear about private messages?........and the telephone? :sleep:
Well when he wants my phone number he will ask for it. Until then...

Heru Nefer Sam,

I promise I will respond to your last post. But at the moment I must get some sleep. I turned into a pumpkin two hours ago but I wanted to finish this project so you can see it in the morning. This is what I've been doing all night. Craddle to Grave can be a part of this. In fact I put in a button for it. The buttons don't work right now because I have not activated them (can't do everything in one night, can I)

http://www.faithvisions.net/Kemet/

Well when he wants my phone number he will ask for it. Until then...

Arrgghhh, the PRESSURE!! :insane: :slobber:

Heru Nefer Sam,

I promise I will respond to your last post. But at the moment I must get some sleep. I turned into a pumpkin two hours ago but I wanted to finish this project so you can see it in the morning. This is what I've been doing all night. Craddle to Grave can be a part of this. In fact I put in a button for it. The buttons don't work right now because I have not activated them (can't do everything in one night, can I)

http://www.faithvisions.net/Kemet/

Wow, that is indeed awesome. I see someone has been putting in extra work.

Thank you for all that you do.

HOTEPU

River..samurai is a good looking brother. I hope you get his number. I'm going to call PETA and nominate him for sexiest male vegetarian of the year...Mmhm..Keep eating them veggies baby... :picture:

River..samurai is a good looking brother. I hope you get his number. I'm going to call PETA and nominate him for sexiest male vegetarian of the year...Mmhm..Keep eating them veggies baby... :picture:

LOL!! :blush:

Well when he wants my phone number he will ask for it. Until then...
I'm asking for it so i can pass it to him. :callme:
you know how to use PM, right?

River..samurai is a good looking brother. I hope you get his number. I'm going to call PETA and nominate him for sexiest male vegetarian of the year...Mmhm..Keep eating them veggies baby... :picture:
:lol:

I second that emotion

You see Sam
Just like me
They long to be
Close to you.

No pressure my dear. You're just a lady-magnet. You can't help it.:lol:

I'm asking for it so i can pass it to him. :callme:
you know how to use PM, right?
Yes but he can't receive a pm

me, i just walk up and offer to pay their rent, but i hear this doesn't work with the younger sisters.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

me, i just walk up and offer to pay their rent, but i hear this doesn't work with the younger sisters.:

LOL.......

I don't know what younger sisters you've run into as of late, James, but that's all I keep hearing from them.

Matter of fact, I had one tell me this just the other night in the gym. :rolleyes:

PEACE

I


Haha, the legacy of the Nomad is strengthened by the Destinus Manifesto. :rolleyes:


Then they pretend they hate jews so much. But they must love them for they only killed six million of them compared to the scores of millions of Blacks and indians and other peoples.

This is why I choose not to look for the historical origins of Man in that book, because of the cultural bias that begins and ends within it.

However, I'll indulge your question just the same:

Many of the YORK school of thought, like to make CANAAN the "bad guy", and turn him into the father of the "Pale Man".

However, seeing as how Canaan comes directly from Ham's lineage, and no real reason for Canaan's "curse" (which they teach is the curse of leprosy or Albinism) is given, other than as a legacy for his father's trangressions, I'm not one to take this much with a grain of salt.

Which doesn't matter really. It doesn't tell us whehre the white man came from. But I will talk more about that below.
Again, we have the Biblical view, which often times (rather almost ALL the time) does not run congruent or parallel with actual history.......And then the actual Historical view.

If we even follow any of this, from the earliest points in time till now, the planet earth would only be about 7,000 years old.

Poppy-****.

The Sphinx is some 9,000 years by itself. The Grand Canyon is 12,000. What, was the Sphinx just floating around in outer space, before the "Spirit of the Lord moved over the waters"?

Did God dig a huge trench in the vast chasm of nothingness, and then create the earth around it?

This is something I discovered some time ago. That the six thousand year old Earth coincides with the mason calendar which marks the age of light--the big supernova as taking place six thousand years ago. Right at that time we have the appearance of the white man. We know that the first people were Black. But there's no way Adam and Eve were Black. There ain't a Blackk woman living what would take no apple from a snake. And there ain't a Black man living what would give up his ri for no woman. So there we have the creation of the white man.
In reality, given the cultural bias within the Bible, I'm one to take the Semitic presence as as the Johnny-come-lately.....

It states that by the time Abraham came into his own (whatever that was), Nubians (Ku****es and Hamites) already had cities, languages, and borders. This certainly seems to coincide with actual history, since African development was not only advanced come the time of the Semite, but the former also laid the foundation for the latter.

As stated a couple of posts earlier, look at everywhere that Abraham (the Patriarch of all Semites) ventured; everywhere Nubians were.

Nonetheless, I have long since rebuked seeing the history of Man through Biblical eyes; what better a method, than to see these peoples through their their own eyes and perspectives?

Do you think that Asians of Tibet, Mongolia, etc care that the Bible calls the "Japhetites"? Do you think that's what they call themselves?



I was going to ask if there was any reference to Shem, Ham and Japheth outside the Torah but I already know what the answer is so fahged it.

LMAO!! Hopefully you can see that I'm done with that whole hiding bit. :blush:



Yes I've noticed

I'd swear that, with statements like this, you'd been reading the HAGAKURE.

(I hear the question coming, so here it is: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=lU2KR3SBVv&isbn=4770011067&itm=1 )

More on that later though.


This is uncanny. Everytime I think I've had an original thought you've got a book somewhere that says the same thing.:scratchhead: I guess the saying is true if you want to make a cake from scratch you must first create the universe.


This was the duplicity that I speak of, when people look at various systems through biased eyes.



Precisely, but even beyond, there is an explainable, quantifiable reasoning, aside from just the poetic pontifications. The same principle is present within TAI-CHI, as within Islamic prayer.


Is there anything on Earth that people fear more than knowledge?



INFO and I are pretty much on the same page when it comes to this, so I'll expound in my own words--let me know if it's synonomous:

The God within my-Self addresses the God within his-Self. "SAMURAI36" and "INFO-MOETRY" (not our real names, but I don't know his, so I just inserted our screen names) are just attributes that the Divine goes by, as he/she assumes an identity within the Physical Realm.......An "alter-ego" of sorts.

I am God, but I am not all that God is.

I am a cup of water dipped from the ocean. That small amount of water in that cup is still the ocean, about that's not all the ocean is.

The same in quality, just not in quantity.


This doesn't really conflict with the Biblical view. God created man's body but He did not create man's spirit. He breathed it into his nostrils. When you breathe something you are expelling from your own self a part of you. This breathing out of God's spirit into seven billion individual containers has a reason and a purpose . Somthing God is trying to accomplish by losing Himself in us and then regaining Himself again in oneness. Prolly not too many preachers would go there.





Precisely; this is the diametric nature of perception; being able to bear witness to the similarities and the differences at the same time, and not seeing a conflict between the two.

Our ancestors have done this (re: Kemet), and we have the capability to do it again, lest you and I wouldn't be conversing about right now.


So true.

Bias aside, there are equally things about King that I could tell you, as with Ghandhi.

In addition to what your sister stated, take notice to the personalities in the "I HAVE A DREAM" video speech, next chance you get.

Not to mention the whole Jesse Jackson fiasco; all of them being Boule'.......Check out Steve Cokeley's works on the matter as well.


We put our leaders up on a pedestal where they can do no wrong and bear no criticism. Maybe if we redefine leadership there won't be so much scandle. But then again who would take on the daunting rresponsibilities of leadership without the prestigious illusion of being a perfect exaample?

I've found myself doing this as well.

To quote YODA from the latest movie:

"Fear leads to the Dark Side".


The most exhilerating point in our discourse for me was when you let me loose from the category "Christian" with all the negative ramifications that holds in your mind and just started talking with me as a human being.



Again, I'm reminded of the book HAGAKURE.

I honestly think, as with most things, people have a misperception of the Way of the Samurai.

Contrary to popular belief, he was not this bloodthirsty warrior, chopping heads off as he walked through life.

The true Way of the Samurai is one of Peace. Samurai's are Buddhists first and foremost, who strive to never unsheath their sword unless they absolutely have to.

Have you seen the movie LAST SAMURAI (starring Tom Cruise)? That movie more or less accurately portrays the character of a Samurai.


All that I know about the Samurai I learned from the Shah.I have a question. Why would a Samurai take on the name assasin? My view is that while you are peaceful in the physical realm when it comes to shedding physical blood in the mentala/spiritual realm you are a formidable force who I wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley (that exasperating combination of ignorance and arrogance which I have seen you squelch without mercy). Glad I met you in the blazing Heru.



I don't know that I totally see this in the same way that you do......


We're not going to see everything totally alike.


Perhaps in the Proto-Judeo-Christian exoteric discipline, or even a misnomer portrayed by Hollywood and other mediums, but most human sacrifices consisted of willing participants.



My understanding of the Scriptural passages in question, is that he knew of the sacrifice that he had to make, but was not totally at peace with it......

Paraphrasing: "Father, be it thy will, remove this cup from me......"


I can bear any pain that I choose to bear but there is still a part of me that is fully aware of the enormity of the pain. Jesus faced the enormity of His coming death with full knowledge and without opium to shield Him from the reality of it.

LOL.



Again, The Samurai wasn't necessarily a Soldier, even though he bore arms.

Understood

There's a great Samurai named MUSASHI MYAMOTO; he was called the "greatest warrior ever lived".......Despite the Tall tales and movies attributed to his name, the reality is, his claim to fame was that he never lost a fight--BECAUSE HE WAS NEVER IN ONE.

Which do you think sounds more interesting to the SAHU: the sensationalism of never losing a fight, or the spiritual reality of never being in one?

I don't think they'd sell too many movies about the latter.


Kwi Chang Cain??

Perhaps you might be interested in making the site that I have better to that very end: CRADLE TO THE GRAVE (http://cradle2dagrave.proboards36.com)

Or not.

Starting from scratch is not the worst thing; I've learned this recently myself.


Well we can see where we want to go with what I did last night. And work on your present site too if you want me to.

Then they pretend they hate jews so much. But they must love them for they only killed six million of them compared to the scores of millions of Blacks and indians and other peoples.

There has always been a scandal behind that whole Jewish Holocaust thing......Not to downplay the atrocities of any peoples, but alot of that situation never adds up.

Jews go from being hated and hunted, to being on top of everything financially all over the world, all within the course of 60 short years.

We were hated and hunted 60 years ago, and we still are, But unlike the Jews, we've practically nothing to show for it.

Not to mention the fact that the Jews' greatest nemesis (Hitler) was a Jew himself.....Only to find the nation that hated Jews so much (Germany) is mostly controlled by them.

If I didn't know better (and if I hadn't seen the movie--which I have--3 TIMES), I'd say that this was a real-life plot of STAR WARS: REVENGE OF THE SITH.

But hey, what do I know..... :thinking:

Which doesn't matter really. It doesn't tell us whehre the white man came from. But I will talk more about that below.

This is something I discovered some time ago. That the six thousand year old Earth coincides with the mason calendar which marks the age of light--the big supernova as taking place six thousand years ago. Right at that time we have the appearance of the white man. We know that the first people were Black. But there's no way Adam and Eve were Black. There ain't a Blackk woman living what would take no apple from a snake. And there ain't a Black man living what would give up his ri for no woman. So there we have the creation of the white man.

Agreed, on all levels. Also, you'll find nowhere, within any other theological system planet-wide, where GOD created Man (male) first, and then Woman. Every theology from Kemet all the way down, deals with the Quintessential Feminine energy.

And not just theology, but science as well. The Female chrome XX is always dominant.


I was going to ask if there was any reference to Shem, Ham and Japheth outside the Torah but I already know what the answer is so fahged it.

Lose no time searching for that which does not exsist.

This is uncanny. Everytime I think I've had an original thought you've got a book somewhere that says the same thing.:scratchhead: I guess the saying is true if you want to make a cake from scratch you must first create the universe.

Haha, it's been a while since I've heard that. But true indeed, it is quite difficult to maintain originality; only the Original People have been able to do it consistently in this Physical realm.

Is there anything on Earth that people fear more than knowledge?

Yes: the Source, from whence that knowledge comes.

That's why the term "God-Fearing" has always left a blotch of bile in the pit of my stomach.

In my mind's eye, there is nothing "worshipful" about that term; it only adds to the pathology that we (and others) as a conquered people continue to suffer from.

For example, take notice to the fact that, as I'm sure you know, whenever the white man comes to conquer a society, he comes with Bible in hand first, and the name of "JESUS" flying out of his mouth.....But it's never exactly the Jesus whose theology is universal, and even transcendant of the Bible.

It's always this docile, "punktified" Christ, whom if you took his pants, he'll roll over and give you his shirt. As stated, this contradicts the actual Jesus of the Bible, who had been shown more than once to act in a more "aggressive, revolutionary" manner.

However, this white image of Christ that they give us is a pacifier of sorts; he's a long-haired, soft-spoken Hippy, who would say nothing wrong to offend his fellow man (again, this is NOT the Jesus of the Bible).

In the meantime, the God that white people inherently and pathologically worship is NOT the same one that they give their slaves to worship.

Every God or Deity of Native European mythology is an Androgenous Male who is the personification of war and aggression:

THOR, slamming his hammer, destroying everything :fight: ........HERCULES (which is a perversion of HERU)......ZEUS, slinging lightning down upon a fearful people.........ATLAS.......MARS/APOLLO.........

Even in today's times, that's what the White male persona strives to embody. We have the image of the tuff cowboy, the "Real American Hero" soldier, the super-strong body-builder.........It even extends into the media, with muscle-bound wrestlers........HE-MAN and the HULK......SUPERMAN (a character named KAL-EL, who was created by a JEW)..........

Our (original people's) Gods are deities of peace and serenity, their's are gods of destruction.

Yet, they take our god(s) from us, and replace them with a psychological mechanism meant to pacify us.

You can keep it.

This doesn't really conflict with the Biblical view. God created man's body but He did not create man's spirit. He breathed it into his nostrils. When you breathe something you are expelling from your own self a part of you. This breathing out of God's spirit into seven billion individual containers has a reason and a purpose . Somthing God is trying to accomplish by losing Himself in us and then regaining Himself again in oneness. Prolly not too many preachers would go there.

Not only do I understand this, but this is also the GNOSTIC and QABALIST view of Biblical spirituality.

However, not all people are able to fathom this elusive truth, despite it being right there in black and white text.


So true.

We put our leaders up on a pedestal where they can do no wrong and bear no criticism. Maybe if we redefine leadership there won't be so much scandle. But then again who would take on the daunting rresponsibilities of leadership without the prestigious illusion of being a perfect exaample?

Hopefully this mindset will come to an end, once people awaken various Chakra levels within them, and strive to "each one teach one".


The most exhilerating point in our discourse for me was when you let me loose from the category "Christian" with all the negative ramifications that holds in your mind and just started talking with me as a human being.

I can't take total credit for this.......

Were it not for your willingness to take off your clothes and reveal your "fig leaf" ( :blush: waits for the peanut gallery....James, where you at?), I could not see the true you past whatever title that you (intentionally or otherwise) presented.

All that I know about the Samurai I learned from the Shah.I have a question. Why would a Samurai take on the name assasin? My view is that while you are peaceful in the physical realm when it comes to shedding physical blood in the mentala/spiritual realm you are a formidable force who I wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley (that exasperating combination of ignorance and arrogance which I have seen you squelch without mercy). Glad I met you in the blazing Heru.

You answered your own question here.

However, this is a song by one of my favorite Hip-Hop groups--the song is called "Warrior Chiefs", in which the MC named SPIRITUAL ASSASSIN (his name alone is a prime example of the conundrum we are speaking of):

"Like Jeff Dahmer in a barrel of dicks, I shred clicks
Crews, Camps, Clans, and $hit with an Iron Fist
Infiltrated Shao-lin, but Manchurians
Learned secrets and combined pamphlets
Manuals-numerous with horrendous skills
Intentional, calculated kills from the Hills
When Zu street had nightmares, Manchuz came on through
Assassin's exterior, humble interior
You're gettin' wearier, staggerin' from the Javelin
Rhymes get ate like Pharaoh Ramses's steaks--no debate
Manchuz cleaned the plate
Went back for seconds, turned MC's to Reverends
Deacons, born again Christians
Believin' in mysteries, and false histories
Nimble and swift, like cheetahs
We be crumbling religions with spiritual intentions......"

For a while, this song--and that verse in particular--was my anthem.

Nonetheless, I've been striving to move away from the Assassin persona--at least in name only.

Yet the interior remains.

We're not going to see everything totally alike.

Understood.

I can bear any pain that I choose to bear but there is still a part of me that is fully aware of the enormity of the pain. Jesus faced the enormity of His coming death with full knowledge and without opium to shield Him from the reality of it.

Spirit willing, flesh weak, yes?

Kwi Chang Cain??

LOL, If it's David Caradine's character that you speak of, he still whipped his share of @$$ in that show.

Well we can see where we want to go with what I did last night. And work on your present site too if you want me to.

Let's "first create the universe", and then go from there.

HOTEP

Hotep Samurai,

First let me say that it is not my intention to put pressure of anykind on you. The whole Destee community knows which way the River is flowing. I'd like nothing better than to be able to talk to you just me and you without an audience. I just don't want to be presumptious.

When I was one and twenty I dated a man who cared enough to sit me down and explain to me why I shuold never ask a man "When will I see you again?" His explaination astonished me. It had never occured to me that such a natural question would cause a man to feel pressure when all I wanted to show was interest and appreciation for a pleasant evening.

That of course was him and his perspective, I am dealing with the Shah now and must understand from his perspective what will and willnot make him feel pressure.

I want to see if I want to. I know that much.

There has always been a scandal behind that whole Jewish Holocaust thing......Not to downplay the atrocities of any peoples, but alot of that situation never adds up.

Jews go from being hated and hunted, to being on top of everything financially all over the world, all within the course of 60 short years.

We were hated and hunted 60 years ago, and we still are, But unlike the Jews, we've practically nothing to show for it.

Not to mention the fact that the Jews' greatest nemesis (Hitler) was a Jew himself.....Only to find the nation that hated Jews so much (Germany) is mostly controlled by them.

If I didn't know better (and if I hadn't seen the movie--which I have--3 TIMES), I'd say that this was a real-life plot of STAR WARS: REVENGE OF THE SITH.

But hey, what do I know..... :thinking:


And they go from being a brown skinned people to a white people. There's that "God-fearing" mentality that says "touch not God's annointed."But are those crackers over in Palestine truly the descendant of Abraham? For that matter are the nomads who slaughtered Canaan truly the people through whom all nations are supposed to be blessed?

Agreed, on all levels. Also, you'll find nowhere, within any other theological system planet-wide, where GOD created Man (male) first, and then Woman. Every theology from Kemet all the way down, deals with the Quintessential Feminine energy.

And not just theology, but science as well. The Female chrome XX is always dominant.

Interesting. But that should not be translated into the idea that woman are supposed to rule over men or that men were created for women. Notice the western idea of first is always about who gets to rule over whom. See I'm looking for something different.





Yes: the Source, from whence that knowledge comes.


Yes the white man will accept anything if he can take the credit for it. He wants to be the source but he is not. That's why there prolly will never be an end to his conquering spirit.
That's why the term "God-Fearing" has always left a blotch of bile in the pit of my stomach.

In my mind's eye, there is nothing "worshipful" about that term; it only adds to the pathology that we (and others) as a conquered people continue to suffer from.

For example, take notice to the fact that, as I'm sure you know, whenever the white man comes to conquer a society, he comes with Bible in hand first, and the name of "JESUS" flying out of his mouth.....But it's never exactly the Jesus whose theology is universal, and even transcendant of the Bible.

It's always this docile, "punktified" Christ, whom if you took his pants, he'll roll over and give you his shirt. As stated, this contradicts the actual Jesus of the Bible, who had been shown more than once to act in a more "aggressive, revolutionary" manner.

However, this white image of Christ that they give us is a pacifier of sorts; he's a long-haired, soft-spoken Hippy, who would say nothing wrong to offend his fellow man (again, this is NOT the Jesus of the Bible).

In the meantime, the God that white people inherently and pathologically worship is NOT the same one that they give their slaves to worship.

My spiritual stuggle has always centered around trying to reconcile the God who has watched over me and loved me all my life with the god I read about in the Bible.To convert others I must convince them that the joy and peace they feel is of the devil and the anxiety and restlessness I feel is from God.I can not accept these absurd notions anymore. You have brought my spiritual struggle to a crisis. Decisions must be made now and a lfetime must be reexamined. I'm not denouncing Christ. He is still Lord and I think it is He who is bringing me to a truer and closer spiritual plane than the Church offers at this point in istory.

Every God or Deity of Native European mythology is an Androgenous Male who is the personification of war and aggression:

THOR, slamming his hammer, destroying everything :fight: ........HERCULES (which is a perversion of HERU)......ZEUS, slinging lightning down upon a fearful people.........ATLAS.......MARS/APOLLO.........

Even in today's times, that's what the White male persona strives to embody. We have the image of the tuff cowboy, the "Real American Hero" soldier, the super-strong body-builder.........It even extends into the media, with muscle-bound wrestlers........HE-MAN and the HULK......SUPERMAN (a character named KAL-EL, who was created by a JEW)..........

Our (original people's) Gods are deities of peace and serenity, their's are gods of destruction.

Yet, they take our god(s) from us, and replace them with a psychological mechanism meant to pacify us.

You can keep it.

A servant is not greater than his master nor a man different from the god that he worships.



Not only do I understand this, but this is also the GNOSTIC and QABALIST view of Biblical spirituality.

Will you quit:lol: I was just expressing thoughts that came totally from my own mental processes. The only thing I've ever heard about the Gnostics is that they are heretics to be guarded against at all costs. I guess like the Kemetics it is just natural theology. But you just wait okay. Creating a universe takes time.



I can't take total credit for this.......

Were it not for your willingness to take off your clothes and reveal your "fig leaf" ( :blush: waits for the peanut gallery....James, where you at?), I could not see the true you past whatever title that you (intentionally or otherwise) presented.


Feels good. I'm standing herre in your eyes without even a fig leaf to my name and I don't feel no shame. What kind of man can bring that out of me? Such A Man.

You answered your own question here.

However, this is a song by one of my favorite Hip-Hop groups--the song is called "Warrior Chiefs", in which the MC named SPIRITUAL ASSASSIN (his name alone is a prime example of the conundrum we are speaking of):

"Like Jeff Dahmer in a barrel of dicks, I shred clicks
Crews, Camps, Clans, and $hit with an Iron Fist
Infiltrated Shao-lin, but Manchurians
Learned secrets and combined pamphlets
Manuals-numerous with horrendous skills
Intentional, calculated kills from the Hills
When Zu street had nightmares, Manchuz came on through
Assassin's exterior, humble interior
You're gettin' wearier, staggerin' from the Javelin
Rhymes get ate like Pharaoh Ramses's steaks--no debate
Manchuz cleaned the plate
Went back for seconds, turned MC's to Reverends
Deacons, born again Christians
Believin' in mysteries, and false histories
Nimble and swift, like cheetahs
We be crumbling religions with spiritual intentions......"

For a while, this song--and that verse in particular--was my anthem.

Nonetheless, I've been striving to move away from the Assassin persona--at least in name only.

Yet the interior remains.


I'm digging the esoterics of these lyrics. They definitely would scare the beans out of anyone who could not understand them on that level. Still waters run deep.

Spirit willing, flesh weak, yes?

You get the picture.


Let's "first create the universe", and then go from there.

HOTEP
Cool I will start with the introuction. Now there are mad sites up already about the Kemet so we have to have an angle that's not duplicating what's already being done. Drop some ideas on me.

get a room, will you :insane:

you people ever hear about private messages?........and the telephone? :sleep:
:lol: smh mmmm mmmmmm mmmmmmm

Looks like Brother Samurai and Sister river are getting their metaphysical and historical groove-on in the wrong thread :confused:....:lol:…it’s a deep discussion…I was trying to see where to jump in, but it seems real-tight and personal...:lol:

…if ya’ll can’t communicate any other way, then at least start another thread…I mean, this is a beautiful parlaying of knowledge, :tennis: but it’s done got waaaaa-aay off course…just start a new thread!!! :).....:D

get a room, will you :insane:
Gee you sound like we're doing the wild thing or sumptin in here:lol:

Seriously. Do I need a microphone to use a room?

I guess a new thread is appropriate at this point.....

I really can't utilize any of the extra-cirricular functions of this site, for 2 reasons:

#1) I do most of my communicating on this site (and others) while I'm here at work. This is a network system, so I don't have access to get past the firewalls.

#2) My home computer was lost to me (I'm sure most of you know why by now).

Anyways, where should we begin anew? Perhaps in the spiritual section (since most of this is spiritual in nature now)?

HOTEP

I guess a new thread is appropriate at this point.....

I really can't utilize any of the extra-cirricular functions of this site, for 2 reasons:

#1) I do most of my communicating on this site (and others) while I'm here at work. This is a network system, so I don't have access to get past the firewalls.

#2) My home computer was lost to me (I'm sure most of you know why by now).

Anyways, where should we begin anew? Perhaps in the spiritual section (since most of this is spiritual in nature now)?

HOTEP
Yes the Spirituality forum seems to be the right place.

Did you read my last post to you?

Yes the Spirituality forum seems to be the right place.

Did you read my last post to you?

Affirmative; just waiting to be pointed in the right direction, before responding.

HOTEP

Affirmative; just waiting to be pointed in the right direction, before responding.

HOTEP
The right direction
http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?p=329760#post329760

Okay ya'll can have your thread back.

I am very single but I am looking

I am looking, hongry, and looking for some passion and pleasure.yuh..there it is..

MississippiRed

Soulful here and I'm between a rock and a hard place but I'm declaring myself an available woman for te time being.

Soulful here and I'm between a rock and a hard place but I'm declaring myself an available woman for te time being.

What precisely does this mean? :confused:

I am single in the sense that I am not married but I am dating someone

oooppps, I just realized that this is for women -- but that is what I like a guy :)

oooppps, I just realized that this is for women --

How do you figure?

but that is what I like a guy :)

Are you saying you're gay? Or was this...as they say...a Freudian slip? QQn

oooppps, I just realized that this is for women -- but that is what I like a guy :)

Sister MieNYu ... Hello and Welcome ... :wave:

Every thread is for every one ... you are welcome to post in any thread you'd like!

Make yourself at home, because you are!

Much Love and Peace.

:heart:

Destee

It means there are some issues between myself and enough guy but i'm still single and looknig. Does that answer the question samurai?

In a vague sort of way, I suppose it does. :?:

I'm single and looking at current I just don't want to rush it.

Now that I understand.

PEACE

Samurai i'm glad that you understand what I wanted to get across.

Sister MieNYu ... Hello and Welcome ... :wave:

Every thread is for every one ... you are welcome to post in any thread you'd like!

Make yourself at home, because you are!

Much Love and Peace.

:heart:

Destee

I'm glad you cleared that up...cuz I didn't know M is a Sista. :D

M..I didn't mean to offend you by asking that question. I was unclear. Please forgive me if that was the case.

Nothing but love, Sista.

:grouphug:

I'm single and according to my age (20 years old since the 27th of March) it's normal.I wanna think that love exists and wanna get involve in a obvious relationship!But unfortunatly,i don't believe in love because i've been hurted and deceived so many times.Anyway good luck destee

I'm single and according to my age (20 years old since the 27th of March) it's normal.I wanna think that love exists and wanna get involve in a obvious relationship!But unfortunatly,i don't believe in love because i've been hurted and deceived so many times.Anyway good luck destee


i hope that you REALLY don't mean this...

at 20 y/o you must not give up.

take a moment, breathe, recoup, and start anew. seek what you deserve.

I have been doing some research on ibo women i am a black male living in the U.S. and i want to get your opion on ibo women and can they be trusted to be a good partner in marriage and or are they just users. please send reply to my e-mail at white2614@sbcglobal.net. I like to thank you for taking time for that and i thak you hope to here from you soon.

I have been doing some research on ibo women i am a black male living in the U.S. and i want to get your opion on ibo women and can they be trusted to be a good partner in marriage and or are they just users. please send reply to my e-mail at white2614@sbcglobal.net. I like to thank you for taking time for that and i thak you hope to here from you soon.
WTF?
i think you should try another site, homie.

I'm single and according to my age (20 years old since the 27th of March) it's normal.I wanna think that love exists and wanna get involve in a obvious relationship!But unfortunately,i don't believe in love because i've been hurt and deceived so many times.
Anyway good luck destee
maybe you should take a deep breath and do some growing.
give it some time.

go to school.

you are way too young to be even thinking like that.

WTF?
i think you should try another site, homie.

Awwww jeebus... :haha: :haha: :haha: you killin' me man...

I have been doing some research on ibo women i am a black male living in the U.S. and i want to get your opion on ibo women and can they be trusted to be a good partner in marriage and or are they just users. please send reply to my e-mail at white2614@sbcglobal.net. I like to thank you for taking time for that and i thak you hope to here from you soon.

What does "ibo" stand for ??? What is an "ibo woman" ???

:heart:

Destee

What does "ibo" stand for ??? What is an "ibo woman" ???

:heart:

Destee

Ibo is an ethnic group Destee. The Ibo are the second largest group in Nigeria. However while your question was relatively easy to answer. Mr White's question can only be answered by himself!

Ibo is an ethnic group Destee. The Ibo are the second largest group in Nigeria. However while your question was relatively easy to answer. Mr White's question can only be answered by himself!

That's not entirely accurate, brother PAN.

I have been doing some research on ibo women i am a black male living in the U.S. and i want to get your opion on ibo women and can they be trusted to be a good partner in marriage and or are they just users. please send reply to my e-mail at white2614@sbcglobal.net. I like to thank you for taking time for that and i thak you hope to here from you soon.

PEACE MR WHITE:

Before I answer this, may I ask you, are you a Black man yourself?

That's not entirely accurate, brother PAN.


What part of that wasn't accurate Samurai?

PEACE PANAFRICA:

What part of that wasn't accurate Samurai?

There is information to be found about this subject, as well as info to be shared. It's true that he can only find it for himself, but it can definitely be shared amongst those who possess it.

I'm prepared to share what I have learned about this, but I'm waiting to hear back from MR WHITE, to verify his agenda for wanting to know this.

I don't fatten frogs for snakes, and I don't perform labor without the promise of gold.

I'm sure, brother PAN, that you can understand what I'm saying here.

PEACE

PEACE PANAFRICA:
There is information to be found about this subject, as well as info to be shared. It's true that he can only find it for himself, but it can definitely be shared amongst those who possess it.

I'm prepared to share what I have learned about this, but I'm waiting to hear back from MR WHITE, to verify his agenda for wanting to know this.

I don't fatten frogs for snakes, and I don't perform labor without the promise of gold.

I'm sure, brother PAN, that you can understand what I'm saying here.

Yes brother Samurai36, I understand what you are saying now. I thought you were saying I was incorrect about the statement I made about the Ibo. I could share more, but since I like you am somewhat suspicious about his agenda....I'm currently choosing not to!

His intentions.. if you dont trust blk women thats his problem.. who polls an audience on their potential mate? Your the one dating her.. not us? So tell us.. why are you dating her if you havent taken the time to view her soul....

His intentions.. if you dont trust blk women thats his problem.. who polls an audience on their potential mate? Your the one dating her.. not us? So tell us.. why are you dating her if you havent taken the time to view her soul....

PEACE POETIC:

When PAN and I are speaking about his "intentions" (hopefully PAN and I are on the same page with this), we are not speaking about the inherent aspects here.

There are always agendas at work in life, all the moreso when we can not readily see them.

I will explain more, if/when "MR WHITE" returns to explain his position.

PEACE

PEACE POETIC:

When PAN and I are speaking about his "intentions" (hopefully PAN and I are on the same page with this), we are not speaking about the inherent aspects here.

There are always agendas at work in life, all the moreso when we can not readily see them.

I will explain more, if/when "MR WHITE" returns to explain his position.

PEACE

Yes brother Samurai...we are on the same page!

PEACE POETIC:

When PAN and I are speaking about his "intentions" (hopefully PAN and I are on the same page with this), we are not speaking about the inherent aspects here.

There are always agendas at work in life, all the moreso when we can not readily see them.

I will explain more, if/when "MR WHITE" returns to explain his position.

PEACE


Yes brother Samurai...we are on the same page!

I doubt he will return... if you have to TELL us you are blak then something is awry..."MR WHITE" best steer clear. :uzi:

I doubt he will return... if you have to TELL us you are blak then something is awry..."MR WHITE" best steer clear. :uzi:

True indeed, Black Queen.

Bottom line: AFRICA IS FOR AFRICANS, both native and abroad.

And that includes Her daughters.

PEACE

True indeed, Black Queen.

Bottom line: AFRICA IS FOR AFRICANS, both native and abroad.

And that includes Her daughters.

PEACE

"especially" her daughters!

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Like Maybachs
With Old School 8Tracks
In a Wilt Chamberlain Throwback

Im linked up
Like Maybachs
With Old School 8Tracks
In a Wilt Chamberlain Throwback

You crazy I pictured this!:weights:

@ the men: there will always another woman finer than the one you have, or are vying for... if you keep waiting for the "finest" one to "wife", you'll be waiting forever, so...

Peace

I am hopelessly, deeply,spiritually,emotionally,physically,and passionally in love. I am in love with a life journey partner, and the one constant person,who keeps me grounded and brings about real feelings in me,that brings out the best in my humanity.


She is a no nonsense BLACK WOMAN! I do emphasise the word Black Woman. The first and only,and the rightful Queen Bee! I wished that every Black man had one in his life to love and cherish!

Oh! and there is never a day that i don't

Love her constantly,consistently and with concern! Peace and Be Blessed!

single... looking to be married by some fine blk man one of these days.. :rolleyes:

Available, but not actively looking. Simply enjoying the road of life as I drive…..

Well I have met someone who is about 3 yrs older than me and not the hard head psycho type that I have been with in the past, I am not sure but I like him sooooo I am not single and not married never have been cuz I don't plan on getting a divorce period! So when I do get married if I ever get married it will be til death do us part thats for sure

Sweettee, love

That's right, I'm a single brother. Not because I have to be, but because I can't find many desireable candidates. I am looking for an intelligent, outgoing, supportive, goal-driven, beautiful (in my eyes), health-conscious in diet & exercise, family oriented, not hidebound in religion, cultured, with a strong sense of history (or willing to learn), natural, African (Black) sister who has a sense of humor and can laugh at herself (meaning she is totally comfortable with herself). I prefer no children, but if you do have them (or other non-ideal characteristics), then you must be that much more phenomenal, period.

I would like someone to tell me, am I looking for too much? Peace...

That's right, I'm a single brother. Not because I have to be, but because I can't find many desireable candidates. I am looking for an intelligent, outgoing, supportive, goal-driven, beautiful (in my eyes), health-conscious in diet & exercise, family oriented, not hidebound in religion, cultured, with a strong sense of history (or willing to learn), natural, African (Black) sister who has a sense of humor and can laugh at herself (meaning she is totally comfortable with herself). I prefer no children, but if you do have them (or other non-ideal characteristics), then you must be that much more phenomenal, period.

I would like someone to tell me, am I looking for too much? Peace...

Quote:

"I would like someone to tell me, am I looking for too much?"

Since you asked, YES, it is possible that you are.

Just witness the controversy concerning a "Natural" sister, then consider how realistic your other criteria are.

This is not to say that you need to change or adjust what you are looking for. Perhaps one day you will find exactly the sister you are looking for.

There are many Black women who have the same set of expectations, and even more.

Hello Family,

Sister Nita Mae asked me to ask yall this question, 'cause she is shy and was wundr'n ... :) ... but uhhh ... are you single, married, looking, involved, hungry, starving, or however you'd describe your current intimate relationship experience.

I don't know if Nita is look'n or what ... but anyway ... i've asked the question for her ... and will be the first to respond.

I am single, divorced, and currently have me and all my chiren ... and our u-hauls loaded wit all our stuff ... ready and waiting for the first invitation from a non-serial killer type ... :wink:

:heart:

Destee

Personally, I am single, semi-retired from teaching, and retired from the "dating game".

For once in my life I am just concentrating on getting my self together economically, spiritually, mentally and health0wise.

I can not commit myself to a relationship at the present and trying to conserve my resources in order to support my daughter's college education.

Personally, I am single, semi-retired from teaching, and retired from the "dating game".

For once in my life I am just concentrating on getting my self together economically, spiritually, mentally and health0wise.

I can not commit myself to a relationship at the present and trying to conserve my resources in order to support my daughter's college education.

Dang Brother Omowale ... well ... at least you let us down easy ... :bye:

:heart:

Destee