Over the past few days I have on, ocassion, become troubled by my own behavior at this board. I sense that, perhaps, I have stepped out of line with some of my thoughts, some of my passion, and said some things I need to apologize for. I was brought up to be respectful of my elders whether they were 1 or 100 years older than I...

Some may not know, nor care that that is how it was in the African American community 35, 40, 50 years ago, or that this kinship custom of respect of elders is as African as it gets, but I live to tell those who don't know that I cannot, nor do I, want to ever forget the importance of respecting my elders, and having them share the wisdom of their experiences with me, and the family. The very LAST thing I would ever want to do is chase away the wisdom of an elder by being a knucklehead.

So I thought it appropriate to dedicate this thread to our well known Elders at this board, Sister Pdiane and brother JamesFrmPhilly. They frequently share themselves and their experiences with us in given threads, but I think such a thread as this can serve as their "teaching Stump", if you will... An Oral History teaching forum, where they can come, and just teach, and say whatever is on their mind, and not have to concern themselves with any young folk treading on SACRED GROUND, so to speak... A place where the youth ask questions, listen and take notes from the elders...

We have oft spoken on the value system of old in our communities... We have not been able to fully explain the many aspects of the value system so that it is plain and clear for our youth. Perhaps, then, I will pose the very first question on this thread to our elders, concerning the African American Value system of old... What was it, this value system, and how and when did we lose it???

Peace!
Isaiah

This is a fantastic gesture brother Isaiah!

when we had a clearly defined external enemy it was all much easier.
with integration many of us, myself included, thought the war was over and we could just kick back and enjoy.

wrong!

i supported capitalism and integration early on.
the white women were free and easy.
it was only when i began to notice that certain things were shared and certain things were not shared that i began to wonder.
i noticed that the money always flowed out of the community and we were getting poorer and poorer.

i figured out that ms Anne was easy because she was of no value.

everywhere i looked we were getting co opted.
all the things that blacks created ended up benefiting whites.
black people were blaming their selves for what was going on.
the black community began to fall apart, fragment and turn on itself.

i had a lot of personal problems and i went into therapy and did a lot of work taking myself apart and putting myself back together again.
i actually graduated from therapy when i found that i didn't like white people too much.

then i knew my head was clear.

i don't have any special advice, i just want to be part of the mix.
my personal ambition is simple.
i just want to sell a piece of my art to a black person.
i've been selling to white people through white agents for years.
i will continue to do that.

the day that a black person steps up and pays cash for my work, i will be done here on earth.

i supported capitalism and integration early on.
the white women were free and easy.
it was only when i began to notice that certain things were shared and certain things were not shared that i began to wonder.
i noticed that the money always flowed out of the community and we were getting poorer and poorer.

i figured out that ms Anne was easy because she was of no value.



Wow, that's powerful right there.

PEACE

This is a fantastic gesture brother Isaiah!

i agree !!! :toast:

i love you Brother Isaiah ... :love:

:heart:

Destee

when we had a clearly defined external enemy it was all much easier.
with integration many of us, myself included, thought the war was over and we could just kick back and enjoy.

wrong!

i supported capitalism and integration early on.
the white women were free and easy.
it was only when i began to notice that certain things were shared and certain things were not shared that i began to wonder.
i noticed that the money always flowed out of the community and we were getting poorer and poorer.

i figured out that ms Anne was easy because she was of no value.

everywhere i looked we were getting co opted.
all the things that blacks created ended up benefiting whites.
black people were blaming their selves for what was going on.
the black community began to fall apart, fragment and turn on itself.

i had a lot of personal problems and i went into therapy and did a lot of work taking myself apart and putting myself back together again.
i actually graduated from therapy when i found that i didn't like white people too much.

then i knew my head was clear.

i don't have any special advice, i just want to be part of the mix.
my personal ambition is simple.
i just want to sell a piece of my art to a black person.
i've been selling to white people through white agents for years.
i will continue to do that.

the day that a black person steps up and pays cash for my work, i will be done here on earth.

Brother James, can you share with the youth(and some not so young)WHY African Americans chose to assimilate with the devil? Was this process helped along by the teachings of Black leaders, the media, intelligence agencies, or all of the above???

Oh, also, how long has this process been going on??? Some folk would clearly trace it to the time when we stepped upon these shores, and I would agree... They would say, I think, that Our Ancestors did so as a means to survive... Maybe there is a difference between the Ancestors, and those folks in the 1960's, who CHOSE to, not only assimilate themselves, but infect the rest of us with their bug.. I have a zillion questions, so take your time, brother(smile!)

Peace!
Isaiah

Over the past few days I have on, ocassion, become troubled by my own behavior at this board. I sense that, perhaps, I have stepped out of line with some of my thoughts, some of my passion, and said some things I need to apologize for. I was brought up to be respectful of my elders whether they were 1 or 100 years older than I...

Some may not know, nor care that that is how it was in the African American community 35, 40, 50 years ago, or that this kinship custom of respect of elders is as African as it gets, but I live to tell those who don't know that I cannot, nor do I, want to ever forget the importance of respecting my elders, and having them share the wisdom of their experiences with me, and the family. The very LAST thing I would ever want to do is chase away the wisdom of an elder by being a knucklehead.

So I thought it appropriate to dedicate this thread to our well known Elders at this board, Sister Pdiane and brother JamesFrmPhilly. They frequently share themselves and their experiences with us in given threads, but I think such a thread as this can serve as their "teaching Stump", if you will... An Oral History teaching forum, where they can come, and just teach, and say whatever is on their mind, and not have to concern themselves with any young folk treading on SACRED GROUND, so to speak... A place where the youth ask questions, listen and take notes from the elders...

We have oft spoken on the value system of old in our communities... We have not been able to fully explain the many aspects of the value system so that it is plain and clear for our youth. Perhaps, then, I will pose the very first question on this thread to our elders, concerning the African American Value system of old... What was it, this value system, and how and when did we lose it???

Peace!
Isaiah


I would be remiss if I didn't, also, mention Brother OldSoul in there with the Council Of Elders at this board, who've continued to be a blessing to us all... I think this thread should also be dedicated to our brother from Chicago, who always brings us the wisdom of his incredible life experiences... Oral History at it's absolute best... Ring in, dear brother, we'd love to hear from you on this thread, as well... In fact, all those Elders who post here unbeknownst to me, this is thread is dedicated to you all... Feel free to bless us with your wisdom...

Peace!
Isaiah

i agree !!! :toast:

i love you Brother Isaiah ... :love:

:heart:

Destee


Thank you, Destee and Pan... I think this was long overdue... The Elders need their own platform from which to deliver their prescription for our salvation... I hope we all can and will respect their sacred space...

Peace!
Isaiah

In my humble opinion family, we lost our value system with intergration. When I am in Afraka. God knows Afraka is poor. But family is so strong it makes me want to cry, poverty in all. The mother, the father, the second wife in some cases, the young adults, the children, the babies all stay in one household. When one gets married you marry the family and they marry yours. When their is a problem, the families come together. When an elder dies, everyone stays together. They eat together from the same tray, 3 times a day.

Brother Isaiah, on another post you shared with us the Rites of Passage in Afraka. This is how it is there. Poverty is painful, poverty makes Afrakans do bad things, but for the most part it is a beautiful, peacful oriented continent.

I mention this because, we Afrakans of amerikkka, exemplified that here back in the day, to a great extend. We did it without conscious knowledge of our a specific culture, our language, rites of passage or anything. We just knew that we had to help each other, uncle drug addict Joe, uncle drunk John, crazy aunt Sue. They lived with us or were always around for Sunday dinner. After church, we had to go visit the elders in ther smelly houses every Sunday and listen to their wise words. :nono: My mother stayed home in our poor project apartment, me and my two sisters slept in the same bed, she sewed our clothes, cooked us lunch after school. Poverty was painful, but we had our people, our mothers, our fathers, our families.

With intergration came white culture, diabolic behavior, individualism, sick ways of thinking. What we really must be clear about is that we have adopted a culture that goes against our very nature. Thus causing physical illness, mental illness, and dispair.

Seperation is part of the answer to our problem. We need to be off to ourselves, healing ourselves, loving ourselves, develping ourselves with the recognition that we absolutely cannot let them anywhere near us ever again. If we cannot get away from white folks, then pretend they are not there by developing our own institutions, like asians and jews.

Minister Farrakhan along with African centered people all over the world recognize this and have been working toward this. I pray we listen, I pray we care, if not for us then for the sake our children.

Brother James, can you share with the youth(and some not so young)WHY African Americans chose to assimilate with the devil? Was this process helped along by the teachings of Black leaders, the media, intelligence agencies, or all of the above???
Peace!
Isaiah
well, it seemed like a good idea at the time.
i figured since white folks had all the best stuff (houses, cars, etc.) i wanted to be over there where they are.
so off i went.

the best way to get to know somebody is to live with them and after a while i found it wasn't like it said in the movies.

i think black people felt they were making a better life for their selves by integrating.
it turned out to be a mistake but i don't blame anyone for trying.

In my humble opinion family, we lost our value system with intergration. When I am in Afraka. God knows Afraka is poor. But family is so strong it makes me want to cry, poverty in all. The mother, the father, the second wife in some cases, the young adults, the children, the babies all stay in one household. When one gets married you marry the family and they marry yours. When their is a problem, the families come together. When an elder dies, everyone stays together. They eat together from the same tray, 3 times a day.

Brother Isaiah, on another post you shared with us the Rites of Passage in Afraka. This is how it is there. Poverty is painful, poverty makes Afrakans do bad things, but for the most part it is a beautiful, peacful oriented continent.

I mention this because, we Afrakans of amerikkka, exemplified that here back in the day, to a great extend. We did it without conscious knowledge of our a specific culture, our language, rites of passage or anything. We just knew that we had to help each other, uncle drug addict Joe, uncle drunk John, crazy aunt Sue. They lived with us or were always around for Sunday dinner. After church, we had to go visit the elders in ther smelly houses every Sunday and listen to their wise words. :nono: My mother stayed home in our poor project apartment, me and my two sisters slept in the same bed, she sewed our clothes, cooked us lunch after school. Poverty was painful, but we had our people, our mothers, our fathers, our families.

With intergration came white culture, diabolic behavior, individualism, sick ways of thinking. What we really must be clear about is that we have adopted a culture that goes against our very nature. Thus causing physical illness, mental illness, and dispair.

Seperation is part of the answer to our problem. We need to be off to ourselves, healing ourselves, loving ourselves, develping ourselves with the recognition that we absolutely cannot let them anywhere near us ever again. If we cannot get away from white folks, then pretend they are not there by developing our own institutions, like asians and jews.

Minister Farrakhan along with African centered people all over the world recognize this and have been working toward this. I pray we listen, I pray we care, if not for us then for the sake our children.


Sister Pdiane, that was so powerful the way you opened yourself up to us with that oral history! You got a way with words, my elder!(smile!)

Your mentioning of our family values set me off a little, because that is how I remember growing up, with a strong sense of family, making those trips down south to visit grandma Ophelia every summer, bringin' back her home-made jars of jam and marmalade, and some quilt she'd been working on for forever(smile!) We didn't have a lot of money, and we moved around quite a bit in the 1960's, but the rules of the community, the code of conduct of it's inhabitants remained in tact...

The fact that our parents kept that tie to the south, enabling us to know and to love each and every family member, gave us a sense that we always had the support of somebody in that family, and that we had to support family members, as you said, sick or in good health. In fact, I remember cousins and family members from my mother and father's sides of the family, always in my house... Some were ne'er do wells, and we loved 'em just the same... Wow, let me stop here... This thing is firing up so many wonderful and tragic memories for me, but this aint my thread...(smile!) Rap on, Elders, rap on...(smile!)

PEACE!~
Isaiah

I strive to be worthy of the Honor of Eldership and I'm truly humbled to be thought of in this way and included with James and PDiane. I very seldom write my opinions, preferring the oral traditions, but I will share these thoughts about the subject here.
The following are a few ideas/concepts/programs that were ganked(changed/stolen/commandeered/co-opted) with serious consequences:
1. Strive to be 'The Best' was changed to strive to be 'the first black' or 'only black';
2. Desegregation was changed to 'intergration';
3. Community control was changed to abandon or 'escape from the hood/ghetto' (along with the de-valueing of our community through gentrification, 'urban removal', etc);
4. The grand theft/destruction of our economic underpinning ('Policy' or 'numbers' legalized as state lotteries) and replaced with the 'retail' drug industry;
5. Civil disobedience and the right to self-defense was changed to the 'non-violent' civil rights movement;
6. Many of our 'best and brightest' youth were identified, tracked and neutralized by the educational/intelligence-gathering system;
7. The quest for justice was diluted to 'minority rights';
8. The reparations movement was changed to affirmative action;
9. 'Race consciousness' was criminalized, our elders were terrorized and Ourstory was trivialized, (as in 'black history trivia').

Hopefully I've shared something that will make sense, cause research and analysis for some.

*I never thought of PDiane as an elder.....




James

we lost it when we assimilated with the devil....
when we had a clearly defined external enemy it was all much easier.
with integration many of us, myself included, thought the war was over and we could just kick back and enjoy.

wrong!

i supported capitalism and integration early on.
the white women were free and easy.
it was only when i began to notice that certain things were shared and certain things were not shared that i began to wonder.
i noticed that the money always flowed out of the community and we were getting poorer and poorer.

i figured out that ms Anne was easy because she was of no value.

everywhere i looked we were getting co opted.
all the things that blacks created ended up benefiting whites.
black people were blaming their selves for what was going on.
the black community began to fall apart, fragment and turn on itself
My memory doesn't go back past the late 70s but I remembered a lot of black businesses that are now gone.

I also remember a lot of black love and sex.

I grew up in Detroit.

Except for the heroin epedimic of the 70s and seeing bruthaz getting straight blasted in liquor stores over drug wars, there was steady black progress in the black community all the way up to the 80s.

I think Regan ruined it for AfroAmericans because when he came in office he was the one responsible for shipping the jobs out, bringing most of the cocaine in, and bringing in so many of the immigrants and giving them amnesty that now have taken our place in jobs and businesses.

Oldschools in my old hood said they didn't even know what an Arab or East Indian was back in the 70s, but after Reagan, they started pouring into the cities setting up businesses.

Same thing with the Koreans on the West Coast.

I strive to be worthy of the Honor of Eldership and I'm truly humbled to be thought of in this way and included with James and PDiane. I very seldom write my opinions, preferring the oral traditions, but I will share these thoughts about the subject here.
The following are a few ideas/concepts/programs that were ganked(changed/stolen/commandeered/co-opted) with serious consequences:
1. Strive to be 'The Best' was changed to strive to be 'the first black' or 'only black';
2. Desegregation was changed to 'intergration';
3. Community control was changed to abandon or 'escape from the hood/ghetto' (along with the de-valueing of our community through gentrification, 'urban removal', etc);
4. The grand theft/destruction of our economic underpinning ('Policy' or 'numbers' legalized as state lotteries) and replaced with the 'retail' drug industry;
5. Civil disobedience and the right to self-defense was changed to the 'non-violent' civil rights movement;
6. Many of our 'best and brightest' youth were identified, tracked and neutralized by the educational/intelligence-gathering system;
7. The quest for justice was diluted to 'minority rights';
8. The reparations movement was changed to affirmative action;
9. 'Race consciousness' was criminalized, our elders were terrorized and Ourstory was trivialized, (as in 'black history trivia').

Hopefully I've shared something that will make sense, cause research and analysis for some.


Brother Elder OldSoul, forgive me for not putting your name front and center in the thread title(smile!) That was temporary insanity on my part!(smile!)

Of Your 9 points, I want to deal with points 2 through 7, as I believe they deal very specifically with the rapid flip in our fortunes as a people... They also bring into stark repose the MACHIAVELLIAN strategy White Man has used, and will use, in any attempt by us to rise above our situation... It reinforces why I take the position that we must plan, and plan QUIETLY, our escape from hell...

2. Desegregation was changed to 'intergration';

Again, I think this came about because of the class conflicts in our community. If we want a real insight into how class played a strong role in the direction of the Civil Rights Movement, read John Dittmer's book, LOCAL PEOPLE... This book is painful in how it details how middle-class Blacks, first, attempted to derail the movement in Mississippi, and when they could not stop the movement, they joined with the White Supemacists down there in an attempt to control it... Painful stuff - revealing stuff, however... Mask No Truths, Tell No Lies, Claim no easy victories...

3. Community control was changed to abandon or 'escape from the hood/ghetto' (along with the de-valueing of our community through gentrification, 'urban removal', etc);

Again, more class conflict among African Americans... Middle class African people desiring to get far away from their "ghetto" brethren... During the height of Jim Crow, Africans all had to live in the same neighborhoods... Needless to say, a lot of folk didn't dig that... The terrible paradox of this struggle is that folk should be free to live where they can afford to live, yet the African poor NEEDED the African middle-class to stay, and own the businesses, and teach the children, and be an example to the rest of us... It was hard for us to fight their desire to move on based on they're acceptance of the ethos of this country... Assimilation cost us dearly...


4. The grand theft/destruction of our economic underpinning ('Policy' or 'numbers' legalized as state lotteries) and replaced with the 'retail' drug industry;

Yes, sir, but our disunity may have played a role in allowing the Mafia to come in, and TAKE away the so-called "illegal" numbers... That actually started long before the "Legal" hijacking later on...


5. Civil disobedience and the right to self-defense was changed to the 'non-violent' civil rights movement;

Again, Class consciousness over Ethnic consciousness ruled the day... Those teachers and ministers couldn't get their suits dirty in the streets... Besides, that white liberal money to bail po' black folks outta jail was becoming quite costly...(smile!)

6. Many of our 'best and brightest' youth were identified, tracked and neutralized by the educational/intelligence-gathering system;

Yes, and the Prison Industrial Complex, as well... Brother OldSoul, I once read an F.B.I. memo where J. Edgar Hoover expounded on his idea to stop the rise of a Black Messiah by promotin entertainers and athletes as symbols of what African youth should aspire to... Clearly, with the help of the media, and the unwitting help of Black athletes and entertainers, his idea has succeeded... Every last one of us should read the book, COinteLPRO, by Ward Churchill... It is an eyeopener about how intelligence agencies in this country works... You'll want to keep your thoughts to yourself after reading this book...


7. The quest for justice was diluted to 'minority rights';
Hopefully I've shared something that will make sense, cause research and analysis for some

Yes, our movement was co-opted and capitalized upon by milquetoast folk from other ethnic groups, groups which did nothing to assert their humanity prior to African people raising up in the 1950's and 1960's... We walked the point for those folk, including white women, who've benefitted more from the civil rights movement that all Blacks combined...

Peace!
Isaiah

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Destee, I know I am in no position to ask that there be an ELDERS FORUM, where they can come and teach us from their wisdom and experience, but I feel that it is needed... Brother Keita's post on our varying degrees of consciousness very profoundly affected me in that this is something that has troubled me since I came upon this site...

We are a people running around espousing a lot of different and conflicting, and confusing tranes of thought, and it seems it only adds to our confusion, rather than lessening it... It seems we need to be trained to listen to wiser heads, rather than half-learning something, and then pretending that we are true "gurus", as James put it, on given subjects... I could be wrong, but i've seen too many posts delving into deep metaphysical stuff, mystical stuff, that are so unintellgible as to make the writer appear, at best ignorant, and at worst, plum crazy... I say nothing out of respect to the principle of freedom of expression, but it is becoming exceedingly frustrating to read this mystical stuff which does ZERO to advance us as a thinking people...

I will not point out specific things, nor will I go on and on in trying to make my case, but I do believe that we should have an area where young people, particularly, can go and inquire with elders about that which they do not understand... Perhaps, we all can develope the discipline of asking from the elder the permission to speak, before we speak unwisely... That would include myself, or anybody else... We should have that kind of protocol for folk who don't fully understand what it is they are talking about... A half an understanding of something preached to those without any understanding only leads to greater confusion... I rest my little case...

Peace!
Isaiah

Thank you elder brothers and sister for sharing your wisdom. All of you have excellent points and accurate analysis of the events and causes. Some of you know I grow up on the south side of Chicago so the purposeful destruction of our neighborhoods really hit home to me. I grew up on 57th and Michigan Ave. This location is 2 1/2 miles from U.S. Cellular Park were the White Sox Play baseball, where Comiskey Park use to be, where a charismatic young boxer named Cassius Clay became the heavy weight champion on the world. This location is about 2 miles from Lake Michigan and the Museum of Science and Industry and about 1 1/2 miles from the University of Chicago where the first atom was split. About 5 mile from downtown Chicago. Growing up and the late 60's and 70's I could remember not having to leave your neighbor for anything. 58th street had everything anyone needed. 58th street was hoppin all the time. In my neighborhood there were schools, churches, grocery store, the butcher shop, the fish market, furniture and appliance stores, restaurants, the currency exchange, the drycleaners, tarverns and bars, records shops, candy stores, the deli, a diner, liquor stores, a drug store, a pool hall, clothing and shoes stores, auto shops, taxi cab depots, homes apartments, bus stop, the eltrain station, Washington Park, the playground, newpaper and magazine stands, etc. Almost everything you needed was there or not too far from my neighborhood. Practically all the businesses were Black owned and everybody knew everybody even the children. I went through there about 4 years ago and could have cried. 58th street was dead. There were hardly any buildings left standing much less abandoned. Can I get a witness from Chicago? What happen to my neighborhood? It started with 63rd and Halsted shopping center. The shoes and clothes and things in the neighborhood weren't good enough anymore, we had the go to 63rd street. So after a while 63rd street wasn't good enough so we had to go way out of the neighborhood to Evergeen Plaza and Ford City. Soon the neighborhood stores couldn't compete with the malls in the white neighborhoods. So they sold their businesses and moved on. Those that weren't brought by Arabs were burned down for the insurance money. So what you had was the beginning of a ghetto. The black police the frequented the neighborhood stop coming so gangs took over. Then crime skyrocketed. The intoduction of cheap drugs put a nail in the coffin of the neighborhood. So instead of a community it turned a war zone for domestic terrorism. The residents were getting robbed for what little they had. Many of the parents had to work far from the neighborhood therefore quite often children were left to raise themselves. Mothers became life long members of the welfare system. This was bad because as long as there were children in the house and no man the state would give the mothers free money, or so it seemed. That lack of male guidence and the proliferation fatherless children created a lost generation with stunted moral growth. Therefore crime got worse and worse teenage pregancy grew and the highschool dropout rate increased. Residents that could, left the neighborhood and the buildings left behind came perfect crack houses. What Brother James said was so true. Because we wanted what "they" had we abandoned our own neighborhoods for the sake of assimilation. Anyone that knows Chicago knows the it's a city of neighborhoods. The true underworking of what happen is echoed in Brother Old Soul's comments. See remember when I said my hood was 1 1/2 from the University of Chicago? As all these areas gentrify who do you think is buying this cheap real estate? It's been a conspiracy all along. Sister Pdiane showed us some of the symptoms of a dying neighborhood with decaying moral value and indivualism. Our music reflected our attitude and outlook on life. Sayings like "Go for yours cause I'm goin for mine" or " F#*k the world don't ask me for sh*t" became the vibe and mindset of the hood. The image of a thug became glorified. The Bible calls this a time of Apostocy. The falling away from the principles of God. This is where we are today. I've been blessed to have been outside this country and other places within this country so I can look at things with an objective eye. This can not be said by many of our bothers and sisters trapped in the bowels of society. To our elder brothers and sisters keep sharing your wisdom. Remember where they first brought us here they killed our elders first. This was done so they could destroy our wisdom and history as a people and so they could shape our identity. We must never let this happen again..


Peace....